Re: Changes in SSA laws I TALKED to soc sec office

[Guest guest]

LOL, I was finally able to get thru by phone-

I reached soc sec by phone (Finally)

the lady who answered said there is no new law....then she went and asked all

the other people in the soc sec office and they all said nope, we can deposit

the checks into OUR account, she said yeesh where else would you put it and why?

she said yeesh who is the check written out to, anyway? I said hubby she said

well he is allowed to put his check where ever he wants - altho yes you can be

made accountable - later.LOL.

She then said wow, you get paper checks. I said well um yeah.she said do you

WANT direct deposit, I said no and she said OK. She said to tell the bank to

call them if it happens again...and she gave me her name.

- In , " dreamer_plus " <dreamer_plus@w...> wrote:

>

> I am not positive, partly becuz with my web tv I am unable to access a pdf

but...

> I think this is NOT supporting what the bank was trying to say. We ARE the

representative payees for our children.(altho this section is discussing

disabled childrens funds, not dependant childrens monies of kids whose checks

are becuz of the parent(s) being disabled) This does say we would be exempt

from needing a dedicated account, tho- I am pretty sure- specifically beucz we

are the representative payee and also the parents.

> Our bank refused to deposit the checks into our account saying we had to put

them in accounts for the kids. (nevermind we have been doing so for 16 years

already)

> So, no, I do not think this explains it at all.....this seems more to defend

what " I " said. Not the bank.

>

[Guest guest]

I am glad you got that straight. I thought it sounded odd to begin

with. Sometimes you get some yaahoo at the bank that thinks they

know it all and just want to make you life misrable like someone died

and left then to police what you do with your money.

I am in the process of helping my daughter appeal her case. Wish me

luck she is 18 yo and so they will not talk to me at all.

Too bad you could not get the SSA lady to put that in writing for

you.

Toni

--- In , " dreamer_plus " <dreamer_plus@w...>

wrote:

>

> LOL, I was finally able to get thru by phone-

> I reached soc sec by phone (Finally)

> the lady who answered said there is no new law....then she went and

asked all the other people in the soc sec office and they all said

nope, we can deposit the checks into OUR account, she said yeesh

where else would you put it and why? she said yeesh who is the check

written out to, anyway? I said hubby she said well he is allowed to

put his check where ever he wants - altho yes you can be made

accountable - later.LOL.

> She then said wow, you get paper checks. I said well um yeah.she

said do you WANT direct deposit, I said no and she said OK. She said

to tell the bank to call them if it happens again...and she gave me

her name.

>

>

>

>

>

> - In , " dreamer_plus " <dreamer_plus@w...>

wrote:

> >

> > I am not positive, partly becuz with my web tv I am unable to

access a pdf but...

> > I think this is NOT supporting what the bank was trying to say.

We ARE the representative payees for our children.(altho this section

is discussing disabled childrens funds, not dependant childrens

monies of kids whose checks are becuz of the parent(s) being

disabled) This does say we would be exempt from needing a dedicated

account, tho- I am pretty sure- specifically beucz we are the

representative payee and also the parents.

> > Our bank refused to deposit the checks into our account saying we

had to put them in accounts for the kids. (nevermind we have been

doing so for 16 years already)

> > So, no, I do not think this explains it at all.....this seems

more to defend what " I " said. Not the bank.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

ss lady could not put it in writing cuz she could not figure out just what the

bank was trying to say, LOL. so she told me if the bnk pulls that again next

month to ask for the bank supervisor and then have them call the soc sec office

to try to explain and then soc sec would set them straight.

Yeah my oldest is disabled and she does not currently get SSI becuz her SSI

would be less than what she gets right now as a dependant of our ssda.....but

soc sec told me to come in when she is 17.5 to begin the process for her to get

ssi in her nme for her disability. and that way, she should also still be able

to keep the champva medical, too. (which is FAR more useful than Medicaide or

Medicare here in IL)

I have been told if she will give me POA I will be better able to help with the

processes. or if I get gguardianship. I have also been told this regarding my

husbands affairs. Something to take into consideration. Lots of the disabled

vetrans wives here at our VA wives group have done that.

- In , " Ms radar " <aclavern33@a...> wrote:

>

> I am glad you got that straight. I thought it sounded odd to begin

> with. Sometimes you get some yaahoo at the bank that thinks they

> know it all and just want to make you life misrable like someone died

> and left then to police what you do with your money.

>

> I am in the process of helping my daughter appeal her case. Wish me

> luck she is 18 yo and so they will not talk to me at all.

>

> Too bad you could not get the SSA lady to put that in writing for

> you.

>

> Toni

>

>

>

> > >

> > > I am not positive, partly becuz with my web tv I am unable to

> access a pdf but...

> > > I think this is NOT supporting what the bank was trying to say.

> We ARE the representative payees for our children.(altho this section

> is discussing disabled childrens funds, not dependant childrens

> monies of kids whose checks are becuz of the parent(s) being

> disabled) This does say we would be exempt from needing a dedicated

> account, tho- I am pretty sure- specifically beucz we are the

> representative payee and also the parents.

> > > Our bank refused to deposit the checks into our account saying we

> had to put them in accounts for the kids. (nevermind we have been

> doing so for 16 years already)

> > > So, no, I do not think this explains it at all.....this seems

> more to defend what " I " said. Not the bank.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Even medicaid here is so hard to find a doc to see you...I was

calling around and was told everytime they do not accept patients

with medicaid alone. But if I had medicaid as a secondary that would

be fine.

My daughter turned 18 last year and it has been very difficult

getting though the SSA system. Even though you would think Sickle

cell anemia would be a slam duck approval. I guess they want to se

how bad we she really wants the SSI.

Ihoe you have better luck with the CHAMP/VA cause here in texas just

here recently with the tricare for life and regular tricare almost

all the docs stopped taking it all at the same time!! It was a real

mess. The program is administered by Humana here and they were not

paying the bills on time...they were taking up to a year to pay a

bill...then they would pay like $20 of a $1000 bill...so the docs all

anded together and when it was time to renew contracts the dropped

accepting tricare patients.

This has really created a mess. Its turned down right ugly and

people have gotten hateful. I was in the docs office and a lady went

off on me because they will not see her anymore unless she pays cash

and waits for reimbursement. She was pissed as she said her hubby

and she were promised care for life...

I reminded her that I didn't do it...and please do not take it out on

me. My husband is a veteran and we decided to continue working

because commercial insurance was better accessible benefits than

tricare. She then went off on the poor girl at the counter who

promptly called sercurity and booted her butt out the clinic for

creating such a scene. Apparently she went off on everyone within

her range.

I feel for her...but what can you do...we are a money driven

society. I have no clue where it will all end....but I do know

something needs to change soon...or we are all going to SOL!

Toni

> > > >

> > > > I am not positive, partly becuz with my web tv I am unable to

> > access a pdf but...

> > > > I think this is NOT supporting what the bank was trying to

say.

> > We ARE the representative payees for our children.(altho this

section

> > is discussing disabled childrens funds, not dependant childrens

> > monies of kids whose checks are becuz of the parent(s) being

> > disabled) This does say we would be exempt from needing a

dedicated

> > account, tho- I am pretty sure- specifically beucz we are the

> > representative payee and also the parents.

> > > > Our bank refused to deposit the checks into our account

saying we

> > had to put them in accounts for the kids. (nevermind we have

been

> > doing so for 16 years already)

> > > > So, no, I do not think this explains it at all.....this seems

> > more to defend what " I " said. Not the bank.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Well, lets see our ped of our kids wholelives refused to accept the Medicaide

when we got that....and so did veery other pediatrician in town. Wound up

having to go out of town toget pediatric services when we had Medicaide. Even

when middle child got hurt in a school basketball game, they took her by

ambulance, broken arm and broekn tooth, stitches in her mouth- they refused to

set her arm saying an ortho had to do it..10 mins later another kid from her

school came by ambulance, also with a broekn arm...the ER did not know we knew

those people- LOL- we were talking in the hall with them. ER had told us they

were not allowd to call the ortho to come to the ER-well my oldest had broekn

her arm the week before and they had told me the same thing then and when I

tried to call the ortho ortho said he did not take Medicaide, and neither did

any other ortho in the phone book.so this time I said NO you have to treat her

she is here, I am not taking another child with a broken arm home this week

without it getting set. they kept telling me they could not do it..but

then...next thing they did call ortho in for my dtrs team mate- so---I went out

in the coridor and grabbed him and said LOOK you would not set my other childs

arm last week cuz we have Medicaide- so her arm is not set- cuz ER would not

call you in.well they would not call you in for US today for this dtr either,

yet they called you in for my dtrs teammate- this is Medicaide discrimination

and we ARE in the community hospital ER----set my childs arm and set it NOW.

My husband has Medicare, he was brought there to ER by ambulance after a

motorcycle accident...his head was bleeding, he had road rash on his face,

shoulder, arm, chest, stomach and leg and complained of being unable to move his

shoulder. Our ER discharged him without even doing a single XRay- he was going

55 MPH when he wiped out....Not only did they not XRay him, they also did not

clean or bandage any single one of his injuries---I put him in the car drove him

to a VA hospital, and he was ipatient in intensive care for over a month. and

in PT for over a year.

People can try to tell me there is no discrimination against Medicare and

Medicaide- but I ain't buying it. People can tell me it is illegal but when you

are in a medical emergency what are you going to do to enforce anything?

The ChampVA my son just had a $50,000 eye surgery repair, (he poked out his

eyeball and split his eyeball in half end of Oct) I just got the thing today

and it says ChampVA paid the hosp like 10,000 and told hospital that is all they

are going to be allowed to get from us---well, sucks for them.....but I do

wonder just what they coulda done in a surgery that did not even restore vision

and is not even socially acceptable to see in public (his eye looks like a

pizza) that could warrant a $50,000 bill and them saying he will need at least

2 more surgeries and might not get any vision anyway?

and what are we to do? My husband served his 11 years in Marines and 9 in Nam

and gave up his health totally, has been unable to work since 1991...has not

been able to hold a conversation or babysit his own kids and has not been able

to walk now for a few years....and since this kid is also disabled- he is

uninsurable- so what are we to do about his medical? something has to give.

LOL when my docs office was unsure about whether they would accept champVA or

not, the champVA co called my docs office and embarrassed them into taking it.

told them flat out my husband gave everything to our country someone needs to

see about helping take care of us.

Earlier I saw someone post about how they heard some docs give cash discounts to

people without insurance. Sadly the reverse is also sometimes true and

sometimes people who pay cash and have no insurance get charged MORE. I waited

tables before I married and found out I always got charged more when I did not

have insurance. and there are some docs and hospitals who will not see you at

all unless you have an insurance card in hand when you get there.

- In , " Ms radar " <aclavern33@a...> wrote:

>

> Even medicaid here is so hard to find a doc to see you...I was

> calling around and was told everytime they do not accept patients

> with medicaid alone. But if I had medicaid as a secondary that would

> be fine.

>

> My daughter turned 18 last year and it has been very difficult

> getting though the SSA system. Even though you would think Sickle

> cell anemia would be a slam duck approval. I guess they want to se

> how bad we she really wants the SSI.

>

> Ihoe you have better luck with the CHAMP/VA cause here in texas just

> here recently with the tricare for life and regular tricare almost

> all the docs stopped taking it all at the same time!! It was a real

> mess. The program is administered by Humana here and they were not

> paying the bills on time...they were taking up to a year to pay a

> bill...then they would pay like $20 of a $1000 bill...so the docs all

> anded together and when it was time to renew contracts the dropped

> accepting tricare patients.

>

> This has really created a mess. Its turned down right ugly and

> people have gotten hateful. I was in the docs office and a lady went

> off on me because they will not see her anymore unless she pays cash

> and waits for reimbursement. She was pissed as she said her hubby

> and she were promised care for life...

>

> I reminded her that I didn't do it...and please do not take it out on

> me. My husband is a veteran and we decided to continue working

> because commercial insurance was better accessible benefits than

> tricare. She then went off on the poor girl at the counter who

> promptly called sercurity and booted her butt out the clinic for

> creating such a scene. Apparently she went off on everyone within

> her range.

>

> I feel for her...but what can you do...we are a money driven

> society. I have no clue where it will all end....but I do know

> something needs to change soon...or we are all going to SOL!

>

> Toni

>

>

>

> > > > >

> > > > > I am not positive, partly becuz with my web tv I am unable to

> > > access a pdf but...

> > > > > I think this is NOT supporting what the bank was trying to

> say.

> > > We ARE the representative payees for our children.(altho this

> section

> > > is discussing disabled childrens funds, not dependant childrens

> > > monies of kids whose checks are becuz of the parent(s) being

> > > disabled) This does say we would be exempt from needing a

> dedicated

> > > account, tho- I am pretty sure- specifically beucz we are the

> > > representative payee and also the parents.

> > > > > Our bank refused to deposit the checks into our account

> saying we

> > > had to put them in accounts for the kids. (nevermind we have

> been

> > > doing so for 16 years already)

> > > > > So, no, I do not think this explains it at all.....this seems

> > > more to defend what " I " said. Not the bank.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>