saline implants

January 25, 2002

Dear Patty and all,

It seems that alot of the articles/information posted on this site are about the dangers with silicone implants. Are there any recent articles on saline implants.

Thanks

January 25, 2002

The dangers from silicone and saline remain the same, with the exception that saline don't have silicone gel particles seeping from the inside of the shell, (but we have fungal and bacterial stuff growing instead.) However, both have silicone particles that can be shed from the shell itself. In answer to the question on articles regarding saline implants, I am not aware of any or I would post them! I don't think they are being studied seriously by anyone anymore, as everyone's mind seems to be made up that implants are safe. By the way, I was interviewed last week by a woman from the magazine "First for Women" for an article they would like to do regarding the down side of breast implants. I also was requested to send pictures. I am not sure what they have in store as of yet, but I will let you all know when they contact me further. I have also suggested that they do stories on some of our girls here on the group, but I am still waiting to hear back from them for a final interview.

Patty

----- Original Message -----

From: Katz

Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 1:03 PM

Subject: saline implants

Dear Patty and all,

It seems that alot of the articles/information posted on this site are about the dangers with silicone implants. Are there any recent articles on saline implants.

Thanks

August 28, 2004

Lilly

I am so sorry for all the problems you have had and I also think they are from your implants. My symptoms are/were very similar to yours and I am very lucky I found this group to let me know that I wasn't going crazy! There are many doctors recommended on the site that have been used by the women here that have had good results - you can read up on them in the files section. I have a small child (3) also so I can definitely understand with your feelings there. Getting my implants removed was the best decision I ever made!!

shari

August 28, 2004

Lilly, you are exhibiting symptoms that almost all of us have at one

point since getting implants. You're definitely in the right place!

I'm sure your implants still look beautiful - mine did too! I never

thought they could be causing my problems. 99% of my pain and

symptoms were nowhere near my breasts. I had joint pain, neck pain,

jaw pain, headaches, fatigue, depression, hormone imbalances, you

name it, I had it. It took 4 years for me to finally link my

problems to my implants.

I would guess that most of us here have had to go to a different PS

to take the implants out. The ones that put them in tend to tell us

we're crazy or that we'll look deformed if they take them out. If

yours tells you that, don't listen! We have some wonderful doctors

on our list that know how to take them out correctly. Where are you

from?

If you want to read our stories, go to the " Files " section and then

to Implant/Explant stories. You'll be surprised at how much you

sound like the rest of us. I pictured myself when I read your

story.

I'm glad that you found us. If I hadn't found this group, I'd still

be going through this alone and scared. I thought I was dying of

some terrible illness that the doctors just couldn't diagnose. I

prayed to God to lead me to a place where I would find the truth, and

He did. I was lead here, I found the truth, got them out, and I'm on

the road to recovery.

Last year at this time I wanted to just not wake up in the morning.

If I had to live in the pain, fatigue and fog that I was in, I didn't

want to live anymore. That's when I accidentally came across some

info linking saline implants and illness and then someone referred me

to this group. Thank God!

This year, I've been able to take my kids to the amusement park AND

walk everywhere! Last year I thought if I went I would have to ride

in a handicap cart. I'm also exercising (riding a stationary bike),

watching some kids, taking care of my 17 month old grandson, re-

decorating parts of my house, actually cleaning my house, and on and

on.

I just got my implants out in December. I felt better immediately

and then got worse for a few months. Now I'm only having flares

every now and then. I still have pain and fatigue and I take pain

meds, but, I'm weaning down off of them too.

Just wanted you to know that there is hope. You can get better and

you will.

Love ya. Glad you're here.

Pam

> HI..I AM GLAD I FOUND THIS WEBSITE. I WAS IMPLANTED IN JANUARY OF

> 2004 WITH MCGHAN IMPLANTS. I HAD A VERY REPUTABLE SURGEON TELL ME

> THAT EVERYTHING WOULD BE FINE AND MY IMPLANTS WOULD LOOK

BEAUTIFUL.

> WELL, EVEN FOUR YEARS LATER THEY ARE HOLDING UP GREAT. HOWEVER I

AM

> NOT. MY RIGHT BREAST HURTS WHEN I GENTLY PUSH ON IT. I HAVE BEEN

> HAVING SEVERE HEADACHES AND NECK PAIN FOR WHICH I ALREADY HAVE HAD

> NINE EPIDURAL TRIGGER POINT INJECTIONS. I FEEL LIKE I AM IN A

CLOUD

> AND I HAVE TROUBLE REMEBERING THINGS AND CONCENTRATING. I HAVE

> DEBILITATING FATIGUE WHICH KEEPS ME FROM DOING THE THINGS I USED TO

> LOVE TO DO..LIKE RUNNING AND EXERCISING. I HAVE GAINED 25 LBS. AND

> HAVE NOTICED MORE THAN USUAL HAIR LOSS. I AM NOW EXPERIENCING

JOINT

> PAIN THROUGHOUT MY BODY ..ESPECIALLY MY ELBOWS..KNEES..IT HURTS TO

> STAND UP......MY FEET AND MY JAW. WHEN I WAKE IN THE MORNING..I

CAN

> BARELY WALK. I TELL MYSELF TO STAY OUT OF BED AND GO ON WITH THE

> DAY...BUT I FEEL SO WEAK. EVERYTHING FEELS LIKE ITS A CHORE TO

DO.

> I HAVE BEEN CRYING ALOT..MOURNING THE OLD ME. I AM UNDER THE CARE

> OF A RHEUMOTLOGIST WHO IS TESTING ME FOR AN AUTOIMMUNE DISORDER. I

> HAVE ALREADY TESTED POSITIVE ON THE ANA SCREEN. HE IS DOING MORE

> DNA TESTS. HE KINDA LOOKED AT ME FUNNY...WHEN TELLING HIM MY

> SYMPTOMS. HE SAID I HAD GOLFERS ELBOW(I DON'T GOLF) AND BUNIONS

> THAT ARE MAKING MY FEET HURT. I HOPE HE TAKES ME SERIOUSLY WHEN I

> TELL HIM I FEEL LIKE TOTAL CRAP....AND THAT I WOULDN'T WISH THIS ON

> MY WORST ENEMY. I FEEL LIKE I AM FALLING APART. MY HUSBAND IS

> CONCERNED AND MY TWO CHILDREN ARE WORRIED ABOUT THEIR MOM. tHEY

SAY

> ALL I EVER DO IS SLEEP AND THEY CAN'T BELIEVE HOW DIFFERENT I HAVE

> BECOME. CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT TO DO NEXT? I FEEL THAT BY READING

> THE STORIES OF OTHERS IN THIS GROUP..I HAVE ALREADY DIAGNOISED

> MYSELF. DO I GO TO THE SAME SURGEON TO HAVE MY IMPLANTS REMOVED?

> PLEASE HELP ME. THANK YOU- LILLY

August 28, 2004

Lilly:

If you go to the right PS, you'll come out loking good and feeling better.

Any questions you have, just ask.

Best Wishes,

LMPam <nannapam3103@...> wrote:

Lilly, you are exhibiting symptoms that almost all of us have at one point since getting implants. You're definitely in the right place! I'm sure your implants still look beautiful - mine did too! I never thought they could be causing my problems. 99% of my pain and symptoms were nowhere near my breasts. I had joint pain, neck pain, jaw pain, headaches, fatigue, depression, hormone imbalances, you name it, I had it. It took 4 years for me to finally link my problems to my implants.I would guess that most of us here have had to go to a different PS to take the implants out. The ones that put them in tend to tell us we're crazy or that we'll look deformed if they take them out. If yours tells you that, don't listen! We have some wonderful doctors on our list that know how to take them out correctly. Where are you from?

If you want to read our stories, go to the "Files" section and then to Implant/Explant stories. You'll be surprised at how much you sound like the rest of us. I pictured myself when I read your story. I'm glad that you found us. If I hadn't found this group, I'd still be going through this alone and scared. I thought I was dying of some terrible illness that the doctors just couldn't diagnose. I prayed to God to lead me to a place where I would find the truth, and He did. I was lead here, I found the truth, got them out, and I'm on the road to recovery. Last year at this time I wanted to just not wake up in the morning. If I had to live in the pain, fatigue and fog that I was in, I didn't want to live anymore. That's when I accidentally came across some info linking saline implants and illness and then someone referred me to this group. Thank God! This year, I've been able to take my kids to the

amusement park AND walk everywhere! Last year I thought if I went I would have to ride in a handicap cart. I'm also exercising (riding a stationary bike), watching some kids, taking care of my 17 month old grandson, re-decorating parts of my house, actually cleaning my house, and on and on. I just got my implants out in December. I felt better immediately and then got worse for a few months. Now I'm only having flares every now and then. I still have pain and fatigue and I take pain meds, but, I'm weaning down off of them too.Just wanted you to know that there is hope. You can get better and you will.Love ya. Glad you're here.Pam> HI..I AM GLAD I FOUND THIS WEBSITE. I WAS IMPLANTED IN JANUARY OF > 2004 WITH MCGHAN IMPLANTS. I HAD A VERY REPUTABLE SURGEON TELL ME > THAT EVERYTHING WOULD BE FINE AND MY

IMPLANTS WOULD LOOK BEAUTIFUL. > WELL, EVEN FOUR YEARS LATER THEY ARE HOLDING UP GREAT. HOWEVER I AM > NOT. MY RIGHT BREAST HURTS WHEN I GENTLY PUSH ON IT. I HAVE BEEN > HAVING SEVERE HEADACHES AND NECK PAIN FOR WHICH I ALREADY HAVE HAD > NINE EPIDURAL TRIGGER POINT INJECTIONS. I FEEL LIKE I AM IN A CLOUD > AND I HAVE TROUBLE REMEBERING THINGS AND CONCENTRATING. I HAVE > DEBILITATING FATIGUE WHICH KEEPS ME FROM DOING THE THINGS I USED TO > LOVE TO DO..LIKE RUNNING AND EXERCISING. I HAVE GAINED 25 LBS. AND > HAVE NOTICED MORE THAN USUAL HAIR LOSS. I AM NOW EXPERIENCING JOINT > PAIN THROUGHOUT MY BODY ..ESPECIALLY MY ELBOWS..KNEES..IT HURTS TO > STAND UP......MY FEET AND MY JAW. WHEN I WAKE IN THE MORNING..I CAN > BARELY WALK. I TELL MYSELF TO STAY OUT OF BED AND GO ON WITH THE > DAY...BUT I FEEL SO WEAK. EVERYTHING FEELS LIKE ITS A CHORE TO DO. > I HAVE BEEN CRYING

ALOT..MOURNING THE OLD ME. I AM UNDER THE CARE > OF A RHEUMOTLOGIST WHO IS TESTING ME FOR AN AUTOIMMUNE DISORDER. I > HAVE ALREADY TESTED POSITIVE ON THE ANA SCREEN. HE IS DOING MORE > DNA TESTS. HE KINDA LOOKED AT ME FUNNY...WHEN TELLING HIM MY > SYMPTOMS. HE SAID I HAD GOLFERS ELBOW(I DON'T GOLF) AND BUNIONS > THAT ARE MAKING MY FEET HURT. I HOPE HE TAKES ME SERIOUSLY WHEN I > TELL HIM I FEEL LIKE TOTAL CRAP....AND THAT I WOULDN'T WISH THIS ON > MY WORST ENEMY. I FEEL LIKE I AM FALLING APART. MY HUSBAND IS > CONCERNED AND MY TWO CHILDREN ARE WORRIED ABOUT THEIR MOM. tHEY SAY > ALL I EVER DO IS SLEEP AND THEY CAN'T BELIEVE HOW DIFFERENT I HAVE > BECOME. CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT TO DO NEXT? I FEEL THAT BY READING > THE STORIES OF OTHERS IN THIS GROUP..I HAVE ALREADY DIAGNOISED > MYSELF. DO I GO TO THE SAME SURGEON TO HAVE MY IMPLANTS REMOVED? > PLEASE HELP ME. THANK YOU-

LILLY

August 28, 2004

-

Dear lilly

Wow. You are definitely reacting to your implants. Get them out.

Your are developing autoimmune symptoms and your best chance to get

better is to have them out as soon as reasonably possible. You

probably shouldn't go to the same ps that implanted you. First, he

will not believe the implants are making you sick. He most likely

will try to convince you otherwise and may even say things that are

totally not true. Like " you'll be sorry if you get them out " or " you

will look deformed " etc. Many women here heard these type of things

when they approached the implanting surgeon. In addition, he may

refuse. Or he may not remove them en bloc (meaning removing the

capsules as well). Your best bet is to go to a doctor recommended on

this site or whom you interview and find to be sympathetic to your

situatiion, experienced, and knowledgeable on explant removal.

After getting them out, you will still need to improve your health

through proper detoxing, diet, cleansing etc. Rest assured many women

on this site have regained significant health back. Your kids and

husband deserve to have you well. YOu were led here for a reason.

Where do you live? Perhaps that would help us recommend someone close

by.

Hugs, kathy

-- In , " rljjtischler "

<rljjtischler@y...> wrote:

> HI..I AM GLAD I FOUND THIS WEBSITE. I WAS IMPLANTED IN JANUARY OF

> 2004 WITH MCGHAN IMPLANTS. I HAD A VERY REPUTABLE SURGEON TELL ME

> THAT EVERYTHING WOULD BE FINE AND MY IMPLANTS WOULD LOOK BEAUTIFUL.

> WELL, EVEN FOUR YEARS LATER THEY ARE HOLDING UP GREAT. HOWEVER I AM

> NOT. MY RIGHT BREAST HURTS WHEN I GENTLY PUSH ON IT. I HAVE BEEN

> HAVING SEVERE HEADACHES AND NECK PAIN FOR WHICH I ALREADY HAVE HAD

> NINE EPIDURAL TRIGGER POINT INJECTIONS. I FEEL LIKE I AM IN A CLOUD

> AND I HAVE TROUBLE REMEBERING THINGS AND CONCENTRATING. I HAVE

> DEBILITATING FATIGUE WHICH KEEPS ME FROM DOING THE THINGS I USED TO

> LOVE TO DO..LIKE RUNNING AND EXERCISING. I HAVE GAINED 25 LBS. AND

> HAVE NOTICED MORE THAN USUAL HAIR LOSS. I AM NOW EXPERIENCING JOINT

> PAIN THROUGHOUT MY BODY ..ESPECIALLY MY ELBOWS..KNEES..IT HURTS TO

> STAND UP......MY FEET AND MY JAW. WHEN I WAKE IN THE MORNING..I CAN

> BARELY WALK. I TELL MYSELF TO STAY OUT OF BED AND GO ON WITH THE

> DAY...BUT I FEEL SO WEAK. EVERYTHING FEELS LIKE ITS A CHORE TO DO.