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Regarding getting a good night's sleep, I take Temazepam at night and

then Sonata in the morning because none of the sleep meds work longer

than 5-ish hours...

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I take 20 mg of Pamelor (nortryptiline) in the am (makes me too hyper

to take at bedtime), then 450 mg of Trileptal throughout the day (this

was prescribed for my mild bipolar condition but it also helps with

the FM pain and helps me sleep). At bedtime I take 2mg of melatonin

and 2mg of lorazepam. Plus I have a whole bedtime ritual that includes

dimming the lights, massaging warmed lavender oil on my arms, neck and

stomach, and reading for a half-hour. If I wake up during the night

and can't get back to sleep with deep breathing or meditation, I take

a couple of Kava capsules. I've tried just about everything else, med-

wise. Ambien gave me panic attacks. Klonopin worked for a while then

abruptly stopped. Lunesta and Roserum did nothing. Elavil sent me to

the emergency room with a too-rapid heartbeat. It's so true what

Dominie said...we're all so different!

--Laurie

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I take 25mg. of Elavil which does nothing to help me sleep. I also take Lunesta which works most of the time. I have a doctors appt next week and she always wants to put me on anti depressants. I am concerned- my sister and my 20 yr old daughter take Paxil ( for panic disorder ) and there was a time when my daughter ran out of her RX and didn't take her Paxil- she became distraught, suicidal- I was terrified for her.I have heard that once you are on these anti-depressants getting off of them is like kicking heroin or something. Anyone in the group have any experiences with anti- depressants? Good or bad? My doctor keeps telling me they will help with my Fibro and my menopause issues. I did try a very low dose

of Lexapro when I was first diagnosed but I didn't feel any different. Beth Beth MoormanFrom: L. Culp-Miles <elizabethlculp@...>Subject: RE: Sleep medsdominie Date: Monday, June 2, 2008, 12:50 PM

I take 30 mg of Elavil & 150 mg of

Trazadone, Accompanied by 2 additional antidepressants and Neurontin for

migraines. I am in the same situation as Pam. I wake in the middle of the night and can’t fall

back to sleep or get a lousy Fibrosleep and am exhausted. I don’t know which is

worse the fatigue or

the pain. I would give anything for a good nights

rest and no pain in the morning. Maybe

the Fibro Fairy is reading this ,if

so I wish, I wish I wish……J

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dominie [mailto:

dominie ] On Behalf Of Pam Horne

Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 9:51

AM

dominie

Subject: Re: Sleep meds

I take Tamazapam, 15 MG at bedtime.

It works for me almost all the time. On the nights when I

don't feel like it's working, I add 50 MG of Tramadol. I

haven't had a problem since I started taking the se

meds, about 9 months now.

Pam

Sleep

meds

Just curious about what sleep meds work for you? I

have been on 5-10

mg of ambien (not CR which lasts too long in my system and makes me

feel awful the next day) for over 10

years. (The generic zolpidem is

cheaper.) I also now take have to take 10 mg of lorazepam (generic

ativan) to get back to sleep when I wake up in the middle of the night.

I tried Lunesta, but after a few days it didn't seem to work anymore.

We are all so different with our sleep problems. In the old days

before the new sleep meds came out,

my docs kept prescribing me

antidepressants and the y made me

feel horrible!!! My insomnia story is

at http://www.fms- help.com/ insomnia. htm

I was 16 when my sleep problem

began (that was 40 years ago). - Dom

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Here's an article from Dr. Murphree. It covers quite alot about sleep including most of the meds that are presently being used.

The Importance of a Good Night’s Sleep

http://www.drmurphreestore.com/sleep-report.pdf

dominie From: bethmrmn@...Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 09:04:54 -0700Subject: RE: Sleep meds

I take 25mg. of Elavil which does nothing to help me sleep. I also take Lunesta which works most of the time. I have a doctors appt next week and she always wants to put me on anti depressants. I am concerned- my sister and my 20 yr old daughter take Paxil ( for panic disorder ) and there was a time when my daughter ran out of her RX and didn't take her Paxil- she became distraught, suicidal- I was terrified for her.I have heard that once you are on these anti-depressants getting off of them is like kicking heroin or something. Anyone in the group have any experiences with anti- depressants? Good or bad? My doctor keeps telling me they will help with my Fibro and my menopause issues. I did try a very low dose of Lexapro when I was first diagnosed but I didn't feel any different. Beth Beth Moorman

From: L. Culp-Miles <elizabethlculp@...>Subject: RE: Sleep medsdominie Date: Monday, June 2, 2008, 12:50 PM

I take 30 mg of Elavil & 150 mg of Trazadone, Accompanied by 2 additional antidepressants and Neurontin for migraines.

I am in the same situation as Pam. I wake in the middle of the night and can’t fall back to sleep or get a lousy Fibrosleep and am exhausted. I don’t know which is worse the fatigue or the pain.

I would give anything for a good nights rest and no pain in the morning. Maybe the Fibro Fairy is reading this ,if so I wish, I wish I wish……J

From: dominie [mailto: dominie ] On Behalf Of Pam HorneSent: Monday, June 02, 2008 9:51 AMdominie Subject: Re: Sleep meds

I take Tamazapam, 15 MG at bedtime. It works for me almost all the time. On the nights when I don't feel like it's working, I add 50 MG of Tramadol. I haven't had a problem since I started taking the se meds, about 9 months now.

Pam

Sleep meds

Just curious about what sleep meds work for you? I have been on 5-10 mg of ambien (not CR which lasts too long in my system and makes me feel awful the next day) for over 10 years. (The generic zolpidem is cheaper.) I also now take have to take 10 mg of lorazepam (generic ativan) to get back to sleep when I wake up in the middle of the night. I tried Lunesta, but after a few days it didn't seem to work anymore. We are all so different with our sleep problems. In the old days before the new sleep meds came out, my docs kept prescribing me antidepressants and the y made me feel horrible!!! My insomnia story is at http://www.fms- help.com/ insomnia. htm I was 16 when my sleep problem began (that was 40 years ago). - Dom

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for depression I take 10mgs. of Nortryptiline in the a.m. It keeps me awake if I take it at night. This got me through a rough few weeks when my husband had to have heart by-pass last June. It has helped me not to cry all of the time at the least little thing--good or bad:). I have absolutely no side effects from it and I am allowed to go to 20mgs if needed. It seemed to help with the fibro pain also.

Elaine

From: L. Culp-Miles <elizabethlculp@ msn.com>Subject: RE: Sleep medsdominie@groups .comDate: Monday, June 2, 2008, 12:50 PM

I take 30 mg of Elavil & 150 mg of Trazadone, Accompanied by 2 additional antidepressants and Neurontin for migraines.

I am in the same situation as Pam. I wake in the middle of the night and can’t fall back to sleep or get a lousy Fibrosleep and am exhausted. I don’t know which is worse the fatigue or the pain.

I would give anything for a good nights rest and no pain in the morning. Maybe the Fibro Fairy is reading this ,if so I wish, I wish I wish……J

From: dominie@groups .com [mailto: dominie@groups .com ] On Behalf Of Pam HorneSent: Monday, June 02, 2008 9:51 AMdominie@groups ..comSubject: Re: Sleep meds

I take Tamazapam, 15 MG at bedtime. It works for me almost all the time. On the nights when I don't feel like it's working, I add 50 MG of Tramadol. I haven't had a problem since I started taking the se meds, about 9 months now.

Pam

Sleep meds

Just curious about what sleep meds work for you? I have been on 5-10 mg of ambien (not CR which lasts too long in my system and makes me feel awful the next day) for over 10 years. (The generic zolpidem is cheaper..) I also now take have to take 10 mg of lorazepam (generic ativan) to get back to sleep when I wake up in the middle of the night. I tried Lunesta, but after a few days it didn't seem to work anymore. We are all so different with our sleep problems. In the old days before the new sleep meds came out, my docs kept prescribing me antidepressants and the y made me feel horrible!!! My insomnia story is at http://www.fms- help.com/ insomnia. htm I was 16 when my sleep problem began (that was 40 years ago). - Dom

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WOW--what an article. I think this one is VERY helpful. Thanks for sharing.

Elaine

From: L. Culp-Miles <elizabethlculp@ msn.com>Subject: RE: Sleep medsdominie@groups .comDate: Monday, June 2, 2008, 12:50 PM

I take 30 mg of Elavil & 150 mg of Trazadone, Accompanied by 2 additional antidepressants and Neurontin for migraines.

I am in the same situation as Pam. I wake in the middle of the night and can’t fall back to sleep or get a lousy Fibrosleep and am exhausted. I don’t know which is worse the fatigue or the pain.

I would give anything for a good nights rest and no pain in the morning. Maybe the Fibro Fairy is reading this ,if so I wish, I wish I wish……J

From: dominie@groups .com [mailto: dominie@groups .com ] On Behalf Of Pam HorneSent: Monday, June 02, 2008 9:51 AMdominie@groups .comSubject: Re: Sleep meds

I take Tamazapam, 15 MG at bedtime. It works for me almost all the time. On the nights when I don't feel like it's working, I add 50 MG of Tramadol.. I haven't had a problem since I started taking the se meds, about 9 months now.

Pam

Sleep meds

Just curious about what sleep meds work for you? I have been on 5-10 mg of ambien (not CR which lasts too long in my system and makes me feel awful the next day) for over 10 years. (The generic zolpidem is cheaper..) I also now take have to take 10 mg of lorazepam (generic ativan) to get back to sleep when I wake up in the middle of the night. I tried Lunesta, but after a few days it didn't seem to work anymore. We are all so different with our sleep problems. In the old days before the new sleep meds came out, my docs kept prescribing me antidepressants and the y made me feel horrible!!! My insomnia story is at http://www.fms- help.com/ insomnia. htm I was 16 when my sleep problem began (that was 40 years ago). - Dom

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Laurie, where did you get the Kava Kava? It is banned in North America. That is a really good tranquillizer, but I think the drug companies knew that, made a big fuss about liver damage, and had it banned here. An excellent natural remedy. Helen Laurie Boris <lboris845@...> wrote: I take 20 mg of Pamelor (nortryptiline) in the am (makes me too hyper to take at bedtime), then 450 mg of Trileptal throughout the day (this was prescribed for

my mild bipolar condition but it also helps with the FM pain and helps me sleep). At bedtime I take 2mg of melatonin and 2mg of lorazepam. Plus I have a whole bedtime ritual that includes dimming the lights, massaging warmed lavender oil on my arms, neck and stomach, and reading for a half-hour. If I wake up during the night and can't get back to sleep with deep breathing or meditation, I take a couple of Kava capsules. I've tried just about everything else, med- wise. Ambien gave me panic attacks. Klonopin worked for a while then abruptly stopped. Lunesta and Roserum did nothing. Elavil sent me to the emergency room with a too-rapid heartbeat. It's so true what Dominie said...we're all so different!--Laurie

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I had a similar experience getting off of Effexor. It was horrible, it started with a panic attack while I was at work. I was trying to pull my hair out, and it only got worse from there. And yet, I still take an antidepressant. Right now it's Cymbalta, which works quite well. I figure I'm going to be on an antidepressant forever, so as long as Cymbalta keeps working, I'm good.

Pam

Sleep meds

Just curious about what sleep meds work for you? I have been on 5-10 mg of ambien (not CR which lasts too long in my system and makes me feel awful the next day) for over 10 years. (The generic zolpidem is cheaper.) I also now take have to take 10 mg of lorazepam (generic ativan) to get back to sleep when I wake up in the middle of the night. I tried Lunesta, but after a few days it didn't seem to work anymore. We are all so different with our sleep problems. In the old days before the new sleep meds came out, my docs kept prescribing me antidepressants and the y made me feel horrible!!! My insomnia story is at http://www.fms- help.com/ insomnia. htm I was 16 when my sleep problem began (that was 40 years ago). - Dom

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Helen, you can get it on the Internet.

Pam

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Laurie, where did you get the Kava Kava? It is banned in North America.

That is a really good tranquillizer, but I think the drug companies knew that, made a big fuss about liver damage, and had it banned here.

An excellent natural remedy.

Helen

Laurie Boris <lboris845earthlink (DOT) net> wrote:

I take 20 mg of Pamelor (nortryptiline) in the am (makes me too hyper to take at bedtime), then 450 mg of Trileptal throughout the day (this was prescribed for my mild bipolar condition but it also helps with the FM pain and helps me sleep). At bedtime I take 2mg of melatonin and 2mg of lorazepam. Plus I have a whole bedtime ritual that includes dimming the lights, massaging warmed lavender oil on my arms, neck and stomach, and reading for a half-hour. If I wake up during the night and can't get back to sleep with deep breathing or meditation, I take a couple of Kava capsules. I've tried just about everything else, med- wise. Ambien gave me panic attacks. Klonopin worked for a while then abruptly stopped. Lunesta and Roserum did nothing. Elavil sent me to the emergency room with a too-rapid heartbeat. It's so true what Dominie said...we're all so different!--Laurie

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Honestly, I've tried several antidepressants and have found they do not help with Fibro at all--only with depression and the quicker you can get off of them the better.

Deb Halvorson

Sleep meds

Just curious about what sleep meds work for you? I have been on 5-10 mg of ambien (not CR which lasts too long in my system and makes me feel awful the next day) for over 10 years. (The generic zolpidem is cheaper.) I also now take have to take 10 mg of lorazepam (generic ativan) to get back to sleep when I wake up in the middle of the night. I tried Lunesta, but after a few days it didn't seem to work anymore. We are all so different with our sleep problems. In the old days before the new sleep meds came out, my docs kept prescribing me antidepressants and the y made me feel horrible!!! My insomnia story is at http://www.fms- help.com/ insomnia. htm I was 16 when my sleep problem began (that was 40 years ago). - Dom

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I agree with you DEB! I've every one of the antidepressants on the

lot over the years. And, I'm so much better without them! Doctors

only want to put you on them because it is their only resource for

what ails anyone these days. They never take into the consideration

the terrible side effects it warrants a person with fibro or a

weakened immune system. Messing with your serotonin levels is NOT

the answer!

I take 25-75 milligrams of Visaril a night to assist in sleep. I

also have interstitial cystitis so it is to help with the mast cells

that overproduce in the bladder. It helps, but I still get up

anywhere from 3-6 times a night to go to the bathroom. I've dealt

with this for over 26 years! So, another contributor to the fibro

and the lot of other syndromes I have aquired over the years. But,

I need not go into that. I'm every fibro stories story!

Carolyn

>

> From: L. Culp-Miles <elizabethlculp@ msn.com>

> Subject: RE: Sleep meds

> dominie@groups .com

> Date: Monday, June 2, 2008, 12:50 PM

>

>

> I take 30 mg of Elavil & 150 mg of Trazadone, Accompanied by 2

additional antidepressants and Neurontin for migraines.

> I am in the same situation as Pam. I wake in the middle of the

night and can't fall back to sleep or get a lousy Fibrosleep and am

exhausted. I don't know which is worse the fatigue or the pain.

> I would give anything for a good nights rest and no pain in the

morning. Maybe the Fibro Fairy is reading this ,if so I wish, I

wish  I wish……J

>  

>

> ________________________________

>

> From:dominie@groups .com [mailto: dominie@groups .com ]

On Behalf Of Pam Horne

> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 9:51 AM

> dominie@groups .com

> Subject: Re: Sleep meds

>  

> I take Tamazapam, 15 MG at bedtime.  It works for me almost all

the time.  On the nights when I don't feel like it's working,

I add 50 MG of Tramadol.  I haven't had a problem since I started

taking the se meds, about 9 months now.

>  

> Pam

>  

>  

> Sleep meds

>  

> Just curious about what sleep meds work for you? I have been on 5-

10

> mg of ambien (not CR which lasts too long in my system and makes

me

> feel awful the next day) for over 10 years. (The generic zolpidem

is

> cheaper.) I also now take have to take 10 mg of lorazepam (generic

> ativan) to get back to sleep when I wake up in the middle of the

night.

> I tried Lunesta, but after a few days it didn't seem to work

anymore.

>

> We are all so different with our sleep problems. In the old days

> before the new sleep meds came out, my docs kept prescribing me

> antidepressants and the y made me feel horrible!!! My insomnia

story is

> at http://www.fms- help.com/ insomnia. htm I was 16 when my sleep

problem

> began (that was 40 years ago). - Dom

>

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I have been on anti-depressants since being diagnosed with FMS. I have done a lot of reading on FMS and everything I have read says that small doses of anti-depressants help but it depends on the type of anti-depressant as there are different categories. I used to be very much against anti-depressants when I was younger but I have found they work for me as they help me cope better with the symptoms of FMS and they help me sleep. Have been on Effexor 75 mgs at night for couple of years, prior to that was taking Tofranil (very old school anti-depressant).

But everyone is different and reacts differently to medications. Sometimes it's by trial and error that you find what works for you.

Best wishes to all of you, keep smiling.

Elsa from AustraliaTue, 6/3/08, Elaine Pratt <epra72@...> wrote:

From: Elaine Pratt <epra72@...>Subject: RE: Sleep medsdominie Date: Tuesday, June 3, 2008, 4:36 PM

for depression I take 10mgs. of Nortryptiline in the a.m. It keeps me awake if I take it at night. This got me through a rough few weeks when my husband had to have heart by-pass last June. It has helped me not to cry all of the time at the least little thing--good or bad:). I have absolutely no side effects from it and I am allowed to go to 20mgs if needed. It seemed to help with the fibro pain also.

Elaine

From: L. Culp-Miles <elizabethlculp@ msn.com>Subject: RE: Sleep medsdominie@groups .comDate: Monday, June 2, 2008, 12:50 PM

I take 30 mg of Elavil & 150 mg of Trazadone, Accompanied by 2 additional antidepressants and Neurontin for migraines.

I am in the same situation as Pam. I wake in the middle of the night and can’t fall back to sleep or get a lousy Fibrosleep and am exhausted. I don’t know which is worse the fatigue or the pain.

I would give anything for a good nights rest and no pain in the morning. Maybe the Fibro Fairy is reading this ,if so I wish, I wish I wish……J

From: dominie@groups .com [mailto: dominie@groups .com ] On Behalf Of Pam HorneSent: Monday, June 02, 2008 9:51 AMdominie@groups ...comSubject: Re: Sleep meds

I take Tamazapam, 15 MG at bedtime. It works for me almost all the time. On the nights when I don't feel like it's working, I add 50 MG of Tramadol. I haven't had a problem since I started taking the se meds, about 9 months now.

Pam

Sleep meds

Just curious about what sleep meds work for you? I have been on 5-10 mg of ambien (not CR which lasts too long in my system and makes me feel awful the next day) for over 10 years. (The generic zolpidem is cheaper...) I also now take have to take 10 mg of lorazepam (generic ativan) to get back to sleep when I wake up in the middle of the night. I tried Lunesta, but after a few days it didn't seem to work anymore. We are all so different with our sleep problems. In the old days before the new sleep meds came out, my docs kept prescribing me antidepressants and the y made me feel horrible!!! My insomnia story is at http://www..fms- help.com/ insomnia. htm I was 16 when my sleep problem began (that was 40 years ago). - Dom

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