Re: Off Subject, (kind of) from ken (squarehead52)

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Ken,

My mom just recovered from her second operation like

yours. She had one eye done at a time. She has had a

great recovery but she followed an eye drop schedule

that my dad assisted her with. I am sure that you too

will have a great success. After 65 years of wearing

glasses, my mom can now see 20/20, what a miracle. If

they can find a solution to this problem, my prayers

are that a solution and cure from RA will be found

soon. Take care, and take it easy, you are in our

prayers.

Patti (Chicago)

" Taking it one day at a time! "

--- kenneth samuelsen <squarehead52@...> wrote:

> Greetings, to all my friends

> on this site who know me.....

> Yesterday, I got

> quite a surprise...now, I realize that February 27th

> is my birthday, and I will reach that " bie

> 55 " ......but the V.A. decided to give me an EARLY

> " present:...I WAS scheduled to go in for what was

> supposed to be just a check up on my eyes, because

> recently, kind of, I had that operation on them for

> cataracts, where they replace your real lenses with

> artificial ones.....and the next thing I know, I am

> being told that they found " scar tissue " on my left

> eye....and next thing I know, I am in their " Lazar

> Facility " , and they anesthetized my eye, and used

> that lazer to remove all the scar tissue! Woof! Now,

> for the next 48 hours, I cannot bend over or pick

> anything up, and Tammy has had to make arrangements

> to stay home, miss work and help me, thank God!

> Plus, I have four different eye drops

> to use, four times a day.

> Just thought you might like to know. ALSO: I

> WILL be " clearing " all the un-needed " mess " from my

> e-mail, and BE back in touch, soon......soon as I

> can see, haha!

> Love to you all......ken

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I bet you will do great! Remember my son had the 2 surgeries last year on his

eye? Then later they removed his lens entirely (did not replace it)

Those eye drops drive me nuts, 4 diff ones 4 times a day-----my lil guy said the

one especially burned- but----here we are, doing good. ALas we still trek off 5

hours away to the univ hospital cuz his eye specialists like to see my son every

darned week..and it is now 15 months later.

BUT he is doing good!

- In , kenneth samuelsen <squarehead52@...> wrote:

>

> Greetings, to all my friends

> on this site who know me.....

> Yesterday, I got quite a surprise...now, I

realize that February 27th is my birthday, and I will reach that " bie

55 " ......but the V.A. decided to give me an EARLY " present:...I WAS scheduled to

go in for what was supposed to be just a check up on my eyes, because recently,

kind of, I had that operation on them for cataracts, where they replace your

real lenses with artificial ones.....and the next thing I know, I am being told

that they found " scar tissue " on my left eye....and next thing I know, I am in

their " Lazar Facility " , and they anesthetized my eye, and used that lazer to

remove all the scar tissue! Woof! Now, for the next 48 hours, I cannot bend over

or pick anything up, and Tammy has had to make arrangements to stay home, miss

work and help me, thank God!

> Plus, I have four different eye drops to use, four times a day.

> Just thought you might like to know. ALSO: I WILL be " clearing " all

the un-needed " mess " from my e-mail, and BE back in touch, soon......soon as I

can see, haha! Love to you all......ken

>

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Hi to all you eye drop enthusiasts!

I agree with you, I had cataract surgery on my right eye at the last of the

year, and now that I am almost done with the drops, next Friday they are ding

my left eye. It was not bad surgery, but I got pretty " car sick " afterward

for a couple of days. These surgeries are encapsulated cataracts thanks to

prednisone therapy. Kinda get you coming and going.

Sure wish I could find a better method of putting in eye drops, I get them

all over my face and some of that stuff really irritates my skin, does anyone

else have better ideas?

Gentle Hugs & Prayers,

Carol M. in CA

@

>~~~~

[Guest guest]

Greetings, my friend....and THANK YOU for your words of encouragement!

id you know? YOU are the ONLY ONE who bothred to answer me back.....and I am

grateful for your positive worrds!

Thank you, my friend! All my

love.....ken

dreamer_plus <dreamer_plus@...> wrote:

I bet you will do great! Remember my son had the 2 surgeries last year on his

eye? Then later they removed his lens entirely (did not replace it)

Those eye drops drive me nuts, 4 diff ones 4 times a day-----my lil guy said

the one especially burned- but----here we are, doing good. ALas we still trek

off 5 hours away to the univ hospital cuz his eye specialists like to see my son

every darned week..and it is now 15 months later.

BUT he is doing good!

- In , kenneth samuelsen <squarehead52@...> wrote:

>

> Greetings, to all my friends

> on this site who know me.....

> Yesterday, I got quite a surprise...now, I

realize that February 27th is my birthday, and I will reach that " bie

55 " ......but the V.A. decided to give me an EARLY " present:...I WAS scheduled to

go in for what was supposed to be just a check up on my eyes, because recently,

kind of, I had that operation on them for cataracts, where they replace your

real lenses with artificial ones.....and the next thing I know, I am being told

that they found " scar tissue " on my left eye....and next thing I know, I am in

their " Lazar Facility " , and they anesthetized my eye, and used that lazer to

remove all the scar tissue! Woof! Now, for the next 48 hours, I cannot bend over

or pick anything up, and Tammy has had to make arrangements to stay home, miss

work and help me, thank God!

> Plus, I have four different eye drops to use, four times a day.

> Just thought you might like to know. ALSO: I WILL be " clearing " all

the un-needed " mess " from my e-mail, and BE back in touch, soon......soon as I

can see, haha! Love to you all......ken

>

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Hi my friend> My computer has been offline because we moved and bought a mobile

home in the country. I sitll do not have mine hooked back up to the

internet.............I had both eyes done near the end of the year and it was

great. I only need to weaer my glasses for reading and computer work. Everyone

keeps saying how much younger I look without glasses which I love to hear. I am

so glad I had the cataract surgery done/......dr said it was not old age that

did it but the medications I take..................I love being able to drive

without glasses.......

I know you will do just fine with the eye thing as you are always in my

prayers. With this move and starting a new job at the same time, I am exhausted

and barely have time to read any email.

Talk to you soon my good friend

with love

Pat in So Ore.

kenneth samuelsen <squarehead52@...> wrote:

Greetings, my friend....and THANK YOU for your words of encouragement!

id you know? YOU are the ONLY ONE who bothred to answer me back.....and I am

grateful for your positive worrds!

Thank you, my friend! All my love.....ken

dreamer_plus <dreamer_plus@...> wrote:

I bet you will do great! Remember my son had the 2 surgeries last year on his

eye? Then later they removed his lens entirely (did not replace it)

Those eye drops drive me nuts, 4 diff ones 4 times a day-----my lil guy said the

one especially burned- but----here we are, doing good. ALas we still trek off 5

hours away to the univ hospital cuz his eye specialists like to see my son every

darned week..and it is now 15 months later.

BUT he is doing good!

- In , kenneth samuelsen <squarehead52@...> wrote:

>

> Greetings, to all my friends

> on this site who know me.....

> Yesterday, I got quite a surprise...now, I realize that February 27th is my

birthday, and I will reach that " bie 55 " ......but the V.A. decided to give me an

EARLY " present:...I WAS scheduled to go in for what was supposed to be just a

check up on my eyes, because recently, kind of, I had that operation on them for

cataracts, where they replace your real lenses with artificial ones.....and the

next thing I know, I am being told that they found " scar tissue " on my left

eye....and next thing I know, I am in their " Lazar Facility " , and they

anesthetized my eye, and used that lazer to remove all the scar tissue! Woof!

Now, for the next 48 hours, I cannot bend over or pick anything up, and Tammy

has had to make arrangements to stay home, miss work and help me, thank God!

> Plus, I have four different eye drops to use, four times a day.

> Just thought you might like to know. ALSO: I WILL be " clearing " all the

un-needed " mess " from my e-mail, and BE back in touch, soon......soon as I can

see, haha! Love to you all......ken

>

>

>

>

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Put the tip of the dropper as close to the inside corner of the eye as you can

without actually touching the area. Then just use a drop or two at most.

Betty

Re: [ ] Re: Off Subject, (kind of) from ken (squarehead52)

Hi to all you eye drop enthusiasts!

I agree with you, I had cataract surgery on my right eye at the last of the

year, and now that I am almost done with the drops, next Friday they are ding

my left eye. It was not bad surgery, but I got pretty " car sick " afterward

for a couple of days. These surgeries are encapsulated cataracts thanks to

prednisone therapy. Kinda get you coming and going.

Sure wish I could find a better method of putting in eye drops, I get them

all over my face and some of that stuff really irritates my skin, does anyone

else have better ideas?

Gentle Hugs & Prayers,

Carol M. in CA

@

>~~~~

[Guest guest]

Greetings! The BEST way I have found, to actually use it, and GET it in your eye

is th placeyour fingers on the skin of you face,right underneath your eye, and

pull it down, then stare DIRECTLY at the pointe where the eyedrops actually

come out of the bottle!. Good luck, Carol! Love, ken

Dandcmayer@... wrote: Hi to all you eye

drop enthusiasts!

I agree with you, I had cataract surgery on my right eye at the last of the

year, and now that I am almost done with the drops, next Friday they are ding

my left eye. It was not bad surgery, but I got pretty " car sick " afterward

for a couple of days. These surgeries are encapsulated cataracts thanks to

prednisone therapy. Kinda get you coming and going.

Sure wish I could find a better method of putting in eye drops, I get them

all over my face and some of that stuff really irritates my skin, does anyone

else have better ideas?

Gentle Hugs & Prayers,

Carol M. in CA

@

>~~~~

[Guest guest]

I have to look in the mirror to put in eye drops. If my eye sees the

drop coming, it's going to close. If it's looking in the mirror, I can

fool it.

Sue

On Sunday, January 21, 2007, at 07:08 PM, Dandcmayer@... wrote:

>

> Sure wish I could find a better method of putting in eye drops, I get

> them

> all over my face and some of that stuff really irritates my skin, does

> anyone

> else have better ideas?

[Guest guest]

I've also had 2 cataract surgergies thanks to Prednisone, and a macular pucker

removed. The pucker was horrid but the cataracts were not much to be concerned

about. I had the drops and they were a real nuisance. I was on drops for

glaucoma for a couple of years, after my second cataract surgery the

opthamologist told me that I never had true glaucoma and could stop the drops.

That was great news ! Now I need the second cataract lasered because it's

cloudy. I'm praying it doesn't disturb my pressure again.

None of this is 'fun'.

Patsy

El Mirage, AZ

DX 2005 Stage 1 PBC

AIH/SLE/RA/COPD

Just a woman of letters....

[Guest guest]

my son had a rock hit his eyeball. The ER said it was fine. a few days later

we knew it was NOT fine. Went back and they sent us directly immediately to a

univ teaching hospital. The rock had ruptured his eyeball- and scar tissue had

formed within 48 hours, and that caused retina to detach and also macula.

They did an immediate surgery, vitrectomy- removed scar tissue, lazered the

retina and macula, and filled the eye with silicone oil to weight the retina and

macula. Then the scar tissue again developed, so they had to again lazer the

retina and macula and they realized his cornea was so damaged and cataracts they

removed it. They did not transplant a new one in place. They again filled eye

with silicone oil.....and it was only after that surgery he lost all vision, -

he does not even see light at all, nothing.

Now his eye is growing calcium deposits on it, they say it is becuz he still has

the silicone oil and the silicone acts like a magnet.... and now the eye is

shrinking......

so- he continues with the eye drops even now.

I do his drops- I have him lay down and I sit on bed with my legs apart and he

lays down with his head closest to me, so he is upside down to me.....I hold his

eye open with one hand and drop the drops with my other hand. ALtho more

recently I have become more adept at doing them anytime anywhere, cuz gosh, we

have been doing 16-25 drops per day now for 15 months. I want to teach him to

do them, but-----LOL- he keeps missing, cuz his nose is in the way of him seeing

where the dropper is - LOL......I am working to teach him to tell that by

feel----- but-- I am not a patient teacher. LOL.

he gets a gram neg antibiotic drop, a gram positive one, a steroid and a

dilator.

thank goodness his pressure has remained within normal limits thru it all.

BUT they do worry about the other eye decideing to become " sympathetic " to the

injured one and deciding to " fail " ? UG.

[Guest guest]

That is terrible!! Bad eye care can make an awful situation. How old is your

son? I used to put drops in my moms eyes as she had a problem doing it. These

last several months I have had lots of drops but have no problem with them.

Maybe I learned on her.

I had pterigium removed from both eyes. I researched as much as I could and

felt confident in the doctor. The most important thing I found in my research

was to be sure they implant material from another part of the eye to fill the

gap. He did that.

After that he removed each cataract. He told me along the way that my corneas

were damaged and that I may need a transplant. That was so far from my mind

that I was stunned for a reply. Being unable to remember just when he said that

makes me wonder if it was before he removed the ptergiums or if that caused it.

I do think it was necessary to remove them. Recently he asked me " are you happy "

I said no as I could not see any better than before the surgeries. He said I

should continue to improve. His assistants tell me that I check out better at

this point than when first tested. Now I have the film or whatever over the

cataracts and tomorrow I am to have one of them zapped. A couple weeks from now

I am scheduled to see another doctor to see if glasses will improve my vision.

NO I'm not happy and am trying to hold the frame of mind that the doctor had not

screwed up.

At this point one eye meets the minimum requirements to drive but during these

months I have not driven. That puts a strain in several aspects. I am just not

comfortable driving but if I am left like this I will try to conquer my nerves

and drive. Actually I thought that vision would have to be much worse than mine

to loose driving abilities. I have known lots of people can't see as well as I

and they still drive. Maybe that's why there are so many nuts behind the wheel.

The only way that I see an impairment that would effect driving is street names.

To read them I have to be about half the distance my husband does. I don't need

to see street names here and all the other signs I can see at an adequate

distance.

I am frustrated! I work full time as a bookkeeper and am used to driving

anywhere I want to. If my vision gets worse I will have to reorder my life as I

am doing things that are just too difficult to continue.

Sorry about all the gripes here. It is probably nothing in comparison with what

your son is doing.

Betty

Now his eye is growing calcium deposits on it, they say it is becuz he still has

the silicone oil and the silicone acts like a magnet.... and now the eye is

shrinking......

so- he continues with the eye drops even now.

[Guest guest]

----- Original Message -----

From: " Alvarez " <bureau97504@...>

> I am so glad I had the cataract surgery done/......

I thought I remembered hearing that you have to be awake for cataract

surgery, is this correct? I have an almost phobia about my eyes (things

touching them) and the thought of being awake to correct my cataracts

(whenever they need to be done) is very unsettling.

Darcy

[Guest guest]

Darcy,

You are definitely awake during cataract surgery....and I am like you, I

couldn''t even wear contacts because my eyes are so sensitive.....but they gave

me an IV of " happy juice " .....and I kinda remember everything, but before I

knew it I was eating donuts and drinking oj.........The only think I felt was

kinda a cold water like feeling and a bit of pressure. I am having my second

eye done on Friday not as scared as I was for the first one. HOpe this helps

Carol

@>~~~~

[Guest guest]

If they gave me a shot in the eye for my cataract surgery, I surely didn't

see or feel it, or I would have been long gone. Hope this helps.

Carol M. in CA

@>~~~~

[Guest guest]

Darcy,

Almost, if not all, that are in my age bracket have had cataract surgery. The

eyes are amazing in that they are so sensitive and yet these type things involve

no pain at all. When I took my sister to have hers done, they put me in a

little room with a TV as they took her in for the surgery. I watched a live

feed while they did it and they gave her the tape afterwards.

They can control anesthesia to the point that they can put you out for just a

very few seconds and bring you out of it just as quickly. I think she was sort

of conscious but had no pain. When the doctor finished it was probably less

than 15 seconds till someone came into the room where I was, pulled the tape out

and gave it to me. I walked out of the room met her as she was walking out.

That distance was probably less than 50 feet. That was a unique experience but

that is how that facility did it.

I had my cataracts removed in the last few months and I was asleep enough that I

was not aware of what they were doing, but awake enough to be a little conscious

of it. Afterwards I had no pain at all, at that time or later. It seems

standard procedure for a patch to be put on the eye and remove it the next day.

The patch is to protect it while it is numb as you could injure it accidentally.

My instructions were to wear the patch at night, or when sleeping to prevent an

accidental rub.

Nothing can sound worse than a shot in the eye, but believe me it is not at all

bad. The problems I posted about previously was in no way related to pain or

such.

Betty

I thought I remembered hearing that you have to be awake for cataract

surgery, is this correct? I have an almost phobia about my eyes (things

touching them) and the thought of being awake to correct my cataracts

(whenever they need to be done) is very unsettling.

Darcy

[Guest guest]

They give you something that will put you in la-la land so that you

won't care what's going on.

Sue

On Tuesday, January 23, 2007, at 08:43 AM, catstamp wrote:

> I thought I remembered hearing that you have to be awake for cataract

> surgery, is this correct? I have an almost phobia about my eyes

> (things

> touching them) and the thought of being awake to correct my cataracts

> (whenever they need to be done) is very unsettling.

[Guest guest]

----- Original Message -----

From: " Betty " <bvanOmega@...>

> Nothing can sound worse than a shot in the eye, but believe me it is not

> at all bad.

A SHOT in your eye?!?!?! Oh no, I can't do that. When I was in the

military, I went to Medical for something in my eye. After me fighting them

for 10 minutes while they tried to wash it out, they finally told me to get

up and do it myself. If I just see an eye problem on tv, my eye starts to

water in sympathy and/or I can't even look at it. The only way I do eye

drops is to have my eyes closed when they are put in. Actually pain in the

eye doesn't bother me, it's the " something coming towards me " that I have

severe problems with.

Darcy

[Guest guest]

----- Original Message -----

From: <Dandcmayer@...>

>but they gave

> me an IV of " happy juice " .....and I kinda remember everything, but before

> I

> knew it I was eating donuts and drinking oj

yeah, this does sound a little better. I just couldn't do it while " in my

right mind " . Fortunately, mine are at the beginning stages, so hopefully,

better things will come around by the time I need mine done.

Darcy

[Guest guest]

my 11 yr old son had more done than just his cataract removed----and I am not

sure if it was cuz of his age or the length of his surgeries (9 hours each) or

the amount of repair work they had to do on him.....BUT.....well, he had no

options, no choice, no say so in his first surgery. LOL- he's a kid and there

was no question, he WAS having that surgery, but- it also was an emergency-

unexpected and decided on the spot. no chance to get nervous.

Again, his was far more involved, so when he woke, - or whatever you call it

since he really did not wake for days due to reactions unrelated to eye or

surgery to anesthesia-----while his eye looked awful - he had no pain meds AT

ALL and he reported NO pain AT ALL totally NO pain....and trust me, his eye was

NOT nice looking.....becuz it was quite extensive injury.

I freaked when I realized he had no pain meds-----not even tylenol. Man, " I "

needed tylenol - no heck, vicoden to just look at him! Docs explained to me,

the eye is a little different than other parts of the body----and my son

reassured me constantly, it did NOT hurt- at all!

all his presurg stuff, I am not sure how he handled having someone and things so

close in his face- but- he did. and continues to- every week. well, now I know

how he can handle it, LOL- but before-----all along.....

It so much did not hurt when they said he had to have more surgery, he did not

even flinch. His biggest discomfort was that he had to stay face down for

weeks......becuz he had more than cataracts removed-----and he got sick and

tired of that. But, he says nope- the eye never did hurt.

- In , " catstamp " <catstamp@...> wrote:

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: <Dandcmayer@...>

> >but they gave

> > me an IV of " happy juice " .....and I kinda remember everything, but before

> > I

> > knew it I was eating donuts and drinking oj

>

> yeah, this does sound a little better. I just couldn't do it while " in my

> right mind " . Fortunately, mine are at the beginning stages, so hopefully,

> better things will come around by the time I need mine done.

> Darcy

>

[Guest guest]

> Worse thing about getting the cataracts removed, for me, was that the

> local put me out for a day. And that I couldn't read. For a reading

> addict, that is sheer torture. So, in retrospect, being out for a

> day was good.

>

Isn't having cataracts removed in this day an age a piece of cake (as you

suggest)?

My 80 YO mother had laser surgery and was fine an hour afterwards.....

What am I missing?

Are some types worse than others?

OR ,did all of you have it done before laser surgery?

Pris

[Guest guest]

Worse thing about getting the cataracts removed, for me, was that the

local put me out for a day. And that I couldn't read. For a reading

addict, that is sheer torture. So, in retrospect, being out for a

day was good.

Otherwise, the whole thing was a piece of cake. Wish all surgery

was that easy. Have had both eyes done. And one other thing. Found

out that I'm allergic to the adhesive tape on my face. Had to wear

an eyepatch. Was a bit more fashionable, I thought, than the taped

gauze square. And those sexy black sunglasses you get...

Rose

On Jan 23, 2007, at 4:36 PM, Dandcmayer@... wrote:

> If they gave me a shot in the eye for my cataract surgery, I surely

> didn't

> see or feel it, or I would have been long gone. Hope this helps.

>

>

> Carol M. in CA

>

> @>~~~~

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Pris,

You are right that laser does make things so much easier. But many of us on

this entry have been talking more about " talk " about eye surgery. Thinking

about the unknown is so much worse than the actual, especially for me. now I

have my second surgery on Friday so I will let you know. I am just a big

baby and don't like the car sick feeling from the " happy juice " and the

schedule

for eye drops. Pills and shots are enough. and I feel really strange having

to get a ride to and from. I drove myself to the eye dr. when I had my

plugs put in my eyes, no problems. Just me.

Carol M. in CA

@>~~~~

[Guest guest]

They can put you to sleep for the few seconds and so you miss the shot.

Otherwise I think you are in the " twilight zone " .

My poor little daughter was about the worst when it came to something like that.

She was about 9 months old, very small, and I held her on my lap as the tech

proceeded to take blood from the arm vein. She managed to get her foot against

the table and bent her arm so the needle was about a 45 degree bend. We were

more or less isolated and there was no one else there. We could not hold her

and the lab tech (a man) was calling for someone to come help him. After that I

watched where she could brace against anything.

About 1 year she hit her head on a kitchen cabinet and opened a big gash in it.

When I got to the ER she was asleep on my shoulder. They said just hold her

like that and we will stitch it. When I said that I would not be able to hold

her they looked like I had lost my marbles. So we laid her down and started the

process with me trying to hold her still. Then we called another tech, also a

man to help and then another. Nope couldn't do it. We ended up rolling her

like a mummy in a sheet and 3 of us holding her.

Heartbreaking story. She became diabetic. That was very difficult for me to

take. But somehow we manage to live with, and cope with terribly difficult

situations.

Betty

Re: [ ] Re: Off Subject, (kind of) from ken (squarehead52)

.

__,_._,_The only way I do eye

drops is to have my eyes closed when they are put in. Actually pain in the

eye doesn't bother me, it's the " something coming towards me " that I have

severe problems with.

Darcy

__

[Guest guest]

I had forgotten but with the ptergiums and the cataracs I was awake enough to

do what the doctor ask. Look up, look down, look at me and such. But you

really don't care.

Betty

[Guest guest]

OK, a shot in the eye, I cannot address due to graphics.....cuz much of the

repair of my sons eye was not on the surface of the eye. Microsurgery and lots

of it.

due to the length of my sons surgery etc and his age etc....they were not going

to keep him awake. Not even in twilite----but again, his was much more than

cataracts, the cataracts and lens removal were just a tiny part for my son.

BUT some docs will NOT put someone to sleep if they do not HAVE to- becuz some

docs do not like the risks associated with being totally out.

For my son, the worst part was not finally losing vision after 2nd surgery

(again, I stress, it was not catarcts that caused it all- it was a traumatic eye

injury) the wost turned out tobe that they found he doesnot clear anesthesia

from his body. for a full week after surgery, he could not think, not hold food

down, but also could not safely swallow it----and he did not regain decent

breathing. he was incontinant when his body DID process waste, but mostly his

body would NOT produce urine output or feces----Previously he had had a reaction

to something they used to put him under to do a simple normal MRI------he was

out 4 days after that 45min procedure. so- I did warn surgeons of this before

his eye surgery.

Being put under is very different than twilite sleep etc. It involves so much

more...

I did not realize that when I had a simple surgery once and wondered why my

throat was bleeding after- I did not have surgery on my throat.

Other health conditions also can make docs not want to put someone under

anesthesia.

It is dependant on somany many different things- somuch is involved in deciding

whether someone will or own't be put to sleep.

Best to discuss it in length and detail with your doc and surgeon. and maybe

anesthesiologist. Tell them your concerns etc.

- In , " Betty " <bvanOmega@...> wrote:

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> I had forgotten but with the ptergiums and the cataracs I was awake enough to

do what the doctor ask. Look up, look down, look at me and such. But you

really don't care.

> Betty

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