Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 I forward the Bruce Rundlett, BBEC piece on the diesel soot for buses to a friend, author/professor ( Ford) in the UK. His response was: The school buses in the USA are often dirty and do spew out submicron hydrocarbon particulates that are known to be carcinogenic. BUT claiming that they flood the passenger compartment with fumes is journalistic license, and is sheer drivel. However, I don't know of any European truck that has its exhaust where the writer claims; they are vertical, a bit like the US trucks. As for the itty-bitty cars . . . Europeans don't like to contribute to the pollution of the air, as the USA does; hence the more modest choice of car. But if your correspondent wanted to rent something not so itty-bitty he'd find a range of superb cars to choose from: BMWs and Mercedes, Rolls-Royce and Jaguar; the choice is all here! As for the fume-filled school buses? It's all crap. But it's not half as bad as the average misrepresentation of science stories that catch my eye . . . See you at I/M? Hope so. Best, ........................................................................... " Tony " Havics, CHMM, CIH, PE pH2, LLC PO Box 34140 Indianapolis, IN 46234 cell 90% of Risk Management is knowing where to place the decimal point...any consultant can give you the other 10%â„ This message is from pH2. This message and any attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information, and are intended only for the individual or entity identified above as the addressee. If you are not the addressee, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, you are not authorized to read, copy, or distribute this message and any attachments, and we ask that you please delete this message and attachments (including all copies) and notify the sender by return e-mail or by phone at . Delivery of this message and any attachments to any person other than the intended recipient(s) is not intended in any way to waive confidentiality or a privilege. All personal messages express views only of the sender, which are not to be attributed to pH2 and may not be copied or distributed without this statement. , Lots of great questions. I e-mailed Medical News Today. The editor and I have been having a conversation about this article. It seems that it is coming over the wire and they were not the source. It is in hundreds of US newspapers. Whoever wrote this needs to do some homework. There may be some agenda going on here. I can't believe the school bus fleet is that old and ill maintained. The part about the " open crankshaft " was pulled from the Medical News Today article an hour after it went out. The editor checked the article with his mechanic, who laughed at the crankshaft comment just as I had, so he took it out. The mechanic said that the problem he sees there (UK) is that the busses are very large for the streets and get stuck in traffic for extended periods. The original article is much more sensible, offering facts and solutions. Crankshafts and soot filled busses are not mentioned. The article is rather positive. Here is the original version: http://www.ucsusa.org/clean_vehicles/big_rig_cleanup/clean-school-bus- pollution.html Here is the LA Times version: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na- schoolbus25may25,1,3677284.story?coll=la-headlines-nation It is apparent that someone sensationalized the report and " made up " (?) or misrepresented a lot. It is sad that this is not unusual any more. It seems that most of what we are debating about this article is not in the article, but is fiction. As for the original question: Just how does a school bus fill with diesel soot? It has help from someone shoveling BS. Bruce Bruce Rundlett, BBEC Bio-Home Solutions HC 1 Box 3354 Oracle,AZ 85623 www.bio-homesolutions.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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