Re: Need help

January 3, 2008

totally agree

>

> >

> > T- I agree about the thyroid testing. I have often wondered if

> > is and has been and they might have missed it all along. Of course,

> > when you bring that up with a doctor they say that the blood work can

> > not lie. YEAH, RIGHT?!\

>

> Blood work doesn't lie, but that doesn't mean it can't be wrong As

> far as I know, there is no such thing as any test that is right all

> the time.

> Amnesty

>

January 3, 2008

We were just discussing lab reference ranges on the ABMD. Evidently

each lab, depending on the way they test, has their own reference

range. I know a few DAN docs don't solely depend on the lab

determining what the high/low is, if the no is on the higher or lower

end, that alone is enough for them to question the result.

Debi

> Blood work doesn't lie, but that doesn't mean it can't be wrong As

> far as I know, there is no such thing as any test that is right all

> the time.

> Amnesty

>

January 3, 2008

We were just discussing lab reference ranges on the ABMD. Evidently

each lab, depending on the way they test, has their own reference

range. I know a few DAN docs don't solely depend on the lab

determining what the high/low is, if the no is on the higher or lower

end, that alone is enough for them to question the result.

Debi

> Blood work doesn't lie, but that doesn't mean it can't be wrong As

> far as I know, there is no such thing as any test that is right all

> the time.

> Amnesty

>

January 3, 2008

They can test for adrenal insufficiency. WHen mine

crapped out I lost a ton of weight, had a temper like

woah, drank all the time, and barely ate. There were

also some other problems, Im not sure what is adult

form, what is child form. My blood pressure was VERY

low and that's a big sign (not sure what your

daughter's is) and my blood sugar was low too.

Kassiane

--- taijij at work wrote:

> I am so glad to have you all to give me ideas and

> suggestions.

> I had heard that it is very difficult to find out

> about thyroid problems

> because you would need to test all day long. My

> aunt has thyroid problems.

> I have been tested a few different times but it has

> come back negative. I

> wonder what else they could test for???? Any body

> have any more ideas? If

> I am getting blood work done I should ask for the

> moon.

>

> None of the people in our family that had diabetes

> is still alive.

>

> Children can be a true test, right??

>

> On Jan 3, 2008 9:31 PM, joans_java

> wrote:

>

> > T----- Not to worry.....A few simple tests and

> it will rule out

> > whether it is or not in the diabetes family. But

> it could be

> > anything. I don't want to worry you. No one here

> does. I just know

> > how frustrating it is when you have a child acting

> out and you just

> > want to help them. I PERSONALLY KNOW!

> > Thank GOd that you have people in your family that

> are diabetic and

> > can help you if she is that. If not, then have

> them test everything

> > like her thyroid, pituitary, and anything else. It

> is merely from the

> > same blood they are drawing.

> > Shanna

> >

> > >

> > > Shanna-

> > > I just remembered that she had some tests done

> prior to foot

> > surgery two

> > > months ago and her urine test was off. I called

> her ped. and she

> > said not

> > > to worry about it. I think i will have her

> tested again anyway.

> > She has a

> > > decreased appetite but her drinking is increased

> at night. Which

> > would

> > > result in having to pee in the middle of the

> night. So confused.

> > But to

> > > stop being confused, I need to weed everything

> out until I find the

> > answer.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > > T-

> > >

> >

>

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> removed]

>

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January 3, 2008

They can test for adrenal insufficiency. WHen mine

crapped out I lost a ton of weight, had a temper like

woah, drank all the time, and barely ate. There were

also some other problems, Im not sure what is adult

form, what is child form. My blood pressure was VERY

low and that's a big sign (not sure what your

daughter's is) and my blood sugar was low too.

Kassiane

--- taijij at work wrote:

> I am so glad to have you all to give me ideas and

> suggestions.

> I had heard that it is very difficult to find out

> about thyroid problems

> because you would need to test all day long. My

> aunt has thyroid problems.

> I have been tested a few different times but it has

> come back negative. I

> wonder what else they could test for???? Any body

> have any more ideas? If

> I am getting blood work done I should ask for the

> moon.

>

> None of the people in our family that had diabetes

> is still alive.

>

> Children can be a true test, right??

>

> On Jan 3, 2008 9:31 PM, joans_java

> wrote:

>

> > T----- Not to worry.....A few simple tests and

> it will rule out

> > whether it is or not in the diabetes family. But

> it could be

> > anything. I don't want to worry you. No one here

> does. I just know

> > how frustrating it is when you have a child acting

> out and you just

> > want to help them. I PERSONALLY KNOW!

> > Thank GOd that you have people in your family that

> are diabetic and

> > can help you if she is that. If not, then have

> them test everything

> > like her thyroid, pituitary, and anything else. It

> is merely from the

> > same blood they are drawing.

> > Shanna

> >

> > >

> > > Shanna-

> > > I just remembered that she had some tests done

> prior to foot

> > surgery two

> > > months ago and her urine test was off. I called

> her ped. and she

> > said not

> > > to worry about it. I think i will have her

> tested again anyway.

> > She has a

> > > decreased appetite but her drinking is increased

> at night. Which

> > would

> > > result in having to pee in the middle of the

> night. So confused.

> > But to

> > > stop being confused, I need to weed everything

> out until I find the

> > answer.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > > T-

> > >

> >

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

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January 4, 2008

Could she have a tooth ache?

January 4, 2008

Could she have a tooth ache?

January 4, 2008

Debi-

Doesn't that sound strange to you? I am not in the medical field as you

will soon be but it seems to me that they should have a universal range.

T-

>

> We were just discussing lab reference ranges on the ABMD. Evidently

> each lab, depending on the way they test, has their own reference

> range. I know a few DAN docs don't solely depend on the lab

> determining what the high/low is, if the no is on the higher or lower

> end, that alone is enough for them to question the result.

>

> Debi

>

> > Blood work doesn't lie, but that doesn't mean it can't be wrong As

> > far as I know, there is no such thing as any test that is right all

> > the time.

> > Amnesty

> >

>

January 4, 2008

Debi-

Doesn't that sound strange to you? I am not in the medical field as you

will soon be but it seems to me that they should have a universal range.

T-

>

> We were just discussing lab reference ranges on the ABMD. Evidently

> each lab, depending on the way they test, has their own reference

> range. I know a few DAN docs don't solely depend on the lab

> determining what the high/low is, if the no is on the higher or lower

> end, that alone is enough for them to question the result.

>

> Debi

>

> > Blood work doesn't lie, but that doesn't mean it can't be wrong As

> > far as I know, there is no such thing as any test that is right all

> > the time.

> > Amnesty

> >

>

January 4, 2008

Kassi

Her blood pressure was good yesterday. So that is a positive thing. I will

ask the dr about adrenal insufficiency.

She is in rare form today too. I am hoping that she calms down and is happy

soon.

Thanks for everyone's suggestions.

T-

>

> They can test for adrenal insufficiency. WHen mine

> crapped out I lost a ton of weight, had a temper like

> woah, drank all the time, and barely ate. There were

> also some other problems, Im not sure what is adult

> form, what is child form. My blood pressure was VERY

> low and that's a big sign (not sure what your

> daughter's is) and my blood sugar was low too.

>

> Kassiane

>

> --- taijij at work <taijijat@... <taijijat%40gmail.com>> wrote:

>

> > I am so glad to have you all to give me ideas and

> > suggestions.

> > I had heard that it is very difficult to find out

> > about thyroid problems

> > because you would need to test all day long. My

> > aunt has thyroid problems.

> > I have been tested a few different times but it has

> > come back negative. I

> > wonder what else they could test for???? Any body

> > have any more ideas? If

> > I am getting blood work done I should ask for the

> > moon.

> >

> > None of the people in our family that had diabetes

> > is still alive.

> >

> > Children can be a true test, right??

> >

> > On Jan 3, 2008 9:31 PM, joans_java

> > <joans_java@... <joans_java%40yahoo.com>> wrote:

> >

> > > T----- Not to worry.....A few simple tests and

> > it will rule out

> > > whether it is or not in the diabetes family. But

> > it could be

> > > anything. I don't want to worry you. No one here

> > does. I just know

> > > how frustrating it is when you have a child acting

> > out and you just

> > > want to help them. I PERSONALLY KNOW!

> > > Thank GOd that you have people in your family that

> > are diabetic and

> > > can help you if she is that. If not, then have

> > them test everything

> > > like her thyroid, pituitary, and anything else. It

> > is merely from the

> > > same blood they are drawing.

> > > Shanna

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Shanna-

> > > > I just remembered that she had some tests done

> > prior to foot

> > > surgery two

> > > > months ago and her urine test was off. I called

> > her ped. and she

> > > said not

> > > > to worry about it. I think i will have her

> > tested again anyway.

> > > She has a

> > > > decreased appetite but her drinking is increased

> > at night. Which

> > > would

> > > > result in having to pee in the middle of the

> > night. So confused.

> > > But to

> > > > stop being confused, I need to weed everything

> > out until I find the

> > > answer.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > >

> > > > T-

> > > >

> > >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

>

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January 4, 2008

Kassi

Her blood pressure was good yesterday. So that is a positive thing. I will

ask the dr about adrenal insufficiency.

She is in rare form today too. I am hoping that she calms down and is happy

soon.

Thanks for everyone's suggestions.

T-

>

> They can test for adrenal insufficiency. WHen mine

> crapped out I lost a ton of weight, had a temper like

> woah, drank all the time, and barely ate. There were

> also some other problems, Im not sure what is adult

> form, what is child form. My blood pressure was VERY

> low and that's a big sign (not sure what your

> daughter's is) and my blood sugar was low too.

>

> Kassiane

>

> --- taijij at work <taijijat@... <taijijat%40gmail.com>> wrote:

>

> > I am so glad to have you all to give me ideas and

> > suggestions.

> > I had heard that it is very difficult to find out

> > about thyroid problems

> > because you would need to test all day long. My

> > aunt has thyroid problems.

> > I have been tested a few different times but it has

> > come back negative. I

> > wonder what else they could test for???? Any body

> > have any more ideas? If

> > I am getting blood work done I should ask for the

> > moon.

> >

> > None of the people in our family that had diabetes

> > is still alive.

> >

> > Children can be a true test, right??

> >

> > On Jan 3, 2008 9:31 PM, joans_java

> > <joans_java@... <joans_java%40yahoo.com>> wrote:

> >

> > > T----- Not to worry.....A few simple tests and

> > it will rule out

> > > whether it is or not in the diabetes family. But

> > it could be

> > > anything. I don't want to worry you. No one here

> > does. I just know

> > > how frustrating it is when you have a child acting

> > out and you just

> > > want to help them. I PERSONALLY KNOW!

> > > Thank GOd that you have people in your family that

> > are diabetic and

> > > can help you if she is that. If not, then have

> > them test everything

> > > like her thyroid, pituitary, and anything else. It

> > is merely from the

> > > same blood they are drawing.

> > > Shanna

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Shanna-

> > > > I just remembered that she had some tests done

> > prior to foot

> > > surgery two

> > > > months ago and her urine test was off. I called

> > her ped. and she

> > > said not

> > > > to worry about it. I think i will have her

> > tested again anyway.

> > > She has a

> > > > decreased appetite but her drinking is increased

> > at night. Which

> > > would

> > > > result in having to pee in the middle of the

> > night. So confused.

> > > But to

> > > > stop being confused, I need to weed everything

> > out until I find the

> > > answer.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > >

> > > > T-

> > > >

> > >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

>

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January 4, 2008

as I said before, I wouldcheck thyroid and adrenals...if she is going

through a stress time, adrenals are going to be affected. Also to rule

out, check for yeast and strepto.

There is a way to check for thyroid and adrenals that is verysimple,

though salive, you have to collect the saliva at different times of the

day, but atleastis not needles. For yeast and strepto, do stool

samples. I can get thetest kits send out to you,if you are interested,

and they are not verye expensive. Let me know, alsoif you need more

info you can call me at (954)584-3198

Luciana

January 4, 2008

as I said before, I wouldcheck thyroid and adrenals...if she is going

through a stress time, adrenals are going to be affected. Also to rule

out, check for yeast and strepto.

There is a way to check for thyroid and adrenals that is verysimple,

though salive, you have to collect the saliva at different times of the

day, but atleastis not needles. For yeast and strepto, do stool

samples. I can get thetest kits send out to you,if you are interested,

and they are not verye expensive. Let me know, alsoif you need more

info you can call me at (954)584-3198

Luciana

January 4, 2008

In a message dated 1/3/08 11:43:29 AM Eastern Standard Time,

amnestyb@... writes:

How long has she been on the Strattera and when did the behavior

change start?

sometimes hormons change things too. have the doc check those levels

eric abbys dad

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January 4, 2008

In a message dated 1/3/08 11:43:29 AM Eastern Standard Time,

amnestyb@... writes:

How long has she been on the Strattera and when did the behavior

change start?

sometimes hormons change things too. have the doc check those levels

eric abbys dad

**************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.

http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

January 4, 2008

thank you - she has another appt monday with her ped. yesterday was with her

dr at cody center. I am going to ask him to run the gamit of tests on her.

I hope he will comply. if not i guess i will have to find another dr.

i had no idea you could test for the thyroid and adrenals at home. do you

have link to that info?

T-

>

> as I said before, I wouldcheck thyroid and adrenals...if she is going

> through a stress time, adrenals are going to be affected. Also to rule

> out, check for yeast and strepto.

> There is a way to check for thyroid and adrenals that is verysimple,

> though salive, you have to collect the saliva at different times of the

> day, but atleastis not needles. For yeast and strepto, do stool

> samples. I can get thetest kits send out to you,if you are interested,

> and they are not verye expensive. Let me know, alsoif you need more

> info you can call me at (954)584-3198

>

> Luciana

>

January 4, 2008

thank you - she has another appt monday with her ped. yesterday was with her

dr at cody center. I am going to ask him to run the gamit of tests on her.

I hope he will comply. if not i guess i will have to find another dr.

i had no idea you could test for the thyroid and adrenals at home. do you

have link to that info?

T-

>

> as I said before, I wouldcheck thyroid and adrenals...if she is going

> through a stress time, adrenals are going to be affected. Also to rule

> out, check for yeast and strepto.

> There is a way to check for thyroid and adrenals that is verysimple,

> though salive, you have to collect the saliva at different times of the

> day, but atleastis not needles. For yeast and strepto, do stool

> samples. I can get thetest kits send out to you,if you are interested,

> and they are not verye expensive. Let me know, alsoif you need more

> info you can call me at (954)584-3198

>

> Luciana

>

January 4, 2008

We have an appt with her ped. on monday, so far i am going to ask him to

test for -diabetes, thyroid, hormone issues, adrenal issues.

If anyone can think of anything else please let me know before monday.

Thanks

>

> In a message dated 1/3/08 11:43:29 AM Eastern Standard Time,

>

> amnestyb@... <amnestyb%40yahoo.com> writes:

>

> How long has she been on the Strattera and when did the behavior

> change start?

>

> sometimes hormons change things too. have the doc check those levels

> eric abbys dad

>

> **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.

> http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

>

January 4, 2008

We have an appt with her ped. on monday, so far i am going to ask him to

test for -diabetes, thyroid, hormone issues, adrenal issues.

If anyone can think of anything else please let me know before monday.

Thanks

>

> In a message dated 1/3/08 11:43:29 AM Eastern Standard Time,

>

> amnestyb@... <amnestyb%40yahoo.com> writes:

>

> How long has she been on the Strattera and when did the behavior

> change start?

>

> sometimes hormons change things too. have the doc check those levels

> eric abbys dad

>

> **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.

> http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

>

January 4, 2008

toothache--make sure she doesn't have a broken tooth or big cavity

that's keeping her from eating

>

> >

> > In a message dated 1/3/08 11:43:29 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> >

> > amnestyb@... <amnestyb%40yahoo.com> writes:

> >

> > How long has she been on the Strattera and when did the behavior

> > change start?

> >

> > sometimes hormons change things too. have the doc check those levels

> > eric abbys dad

> >

> > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.

> >

http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

> >

January 4, 2008

toothache--make sure she doesn't have a broken tooth or big cavity

that's keeping her from eating

>

> >

> > In a message dated 1/3/08 11:43:29 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> >

> > amnestyb@... <amnestyb%40yahoo.com> writes:

> >

> > How long has she been on the Strattera and when did the behavior

> > change start?

> >

> > sometimes hormons change things too. have the doc check those levels

> > eric abbys dad

> >

> > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.

> >

http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

> >

January 4, 2008

Believe me, the more I learn about the medical field, the more

frustrated I get. Essentially, different lab tests can have different

ways to test, and the different ways yield different numbers. Like,

some specific test at lab X might spin the blood and count cells by

microscope, where lab Y may not spin the blood but check it from whole

blood, etc. Or if lab X uses a microscope at 1200x power abut lab Y

uses a microscope at 1600x, then that might make a difference, or lab

X might use an ACME centrifuge that spins at XXXX revolutions/sec,

while lab Y might use a different centrifuge that spins at a different

revolution. With each variable each result will be different.

Supposedly there are certifications for labs and techniques, but it's

not universal enough to be able to compare with every single different

variable. In the end, it's the patient who suffers.

Debi

>

> Debi-

>

> Doesn't that sound strange to you? I am not in the medical field as you

> will soon be but it seems to me that they should have a universal range.

>

> T-

January 4, 2008