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Yes. She has been involved in theraputic horse riding, gymnastics, and we are

still waiting to see if she will be accepted into an in-home intensive therapy

program. As I said, she is now at a specialty school, which has resulted in her

meltdowns decreasing to nearly nothing.

I brought her home through a busy airport last week, and all of the brushing

against and noise caused her to go back to her non-verbal state. Just growling

and efforts at signing. Occassionally I think I would like to move to a cabin

in northern wisconsin with a doormat that says, " If you don't want to be around

her, then I will keep her to myself. Its your loss. " Big doormat eh. I know.

Its not in her interest.

Amy Wittman wrote:

...Have you tried anything to help your daughter into recovery?

Amy

Belcher wrote:

First Sondra, thank you. I had a discussion with my daughter's case worker a

while back, and when she said how much work it is for parents to deal with an

autistic child, the only thing I could think to say was, I'm sorry their are

children with this illness, but I am eternally grateful for having been

entrusted with one of them.

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Yes. She has been involved in theraputic horse riding, gymnastics, and we are

still waiting to see if she will be accepted into an in-home intensive therapy

program. As I said, she is now at a specialty school, which has resulted in her

meltdowns decreasing to nearly nothing.

I brought her home through a busy airport last week, and all of the brushing

against and noise caused her to go back to her non-verbal state. Just growling

and efforts at signing. Occassionally I think I would like to move to a cabin

in northern wisconsin with a doormat that says, " If you don't want to be around

her, then I will keep her to myself. Its your loss. " Big doormat eh. I know.

Its not in her interest.

Amy Wittman wrote:

...Have you tried anything to help your daughter into recovery?

Amy

Belcher wrote:

First Sondra, thank you. I had a discussion with my daughter's case worker a

while back, and when she said how much work it is for parents to deal with an

autistic child, the only thing I could think to say was, I'm sorry their are

children with this illness, but I am eternally grateful for having been

entrusted with one of them.

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you are by far farther along in this journey than most and it

reflects a good outcome because you sound very balanced.

I to watch of the dog whisperer much as it is of now one of my

favorite shows and the other is of Deal or NO deal. I to laos like

most all classics that are family based, and much of the disney

movies. I to also like the medical mystery show/

When was of a little girl the only TV my brain would focus to was of

commercials but the one I to like the most was the begin of hte eye

witness news which at one point had of a red haired news broadcaster

and not know of her but remember of hte red hair of her. I to liked

the music of when that news show was of to begin and seeing the eye

witness news logo coming. this was of before school age and before

really understood words.

When was of school aged loved of the geni show and lost and space

because liked of that robot voice but was also some fearful of him.

Then liked of the bewitched show due to the powers and magic of her

being able to do her nose and things would be to change and so much

woukld try to wiggle of my own nose to make of things change for me

but they never did. As a pre teen it was of the little house on the

prarie and this is where I to first understood that emotions had of

names to them. was able to see of good parenting and real care to teh

family unit as a whole. it was waht i to based of my own parenting

with.

Then for much years no interest in TV because of little access to

them. htere are huge gaps of typical normal teen exposures to life,

because of being locked away, so not having access leaves me missing

huge areas of knowings that most others have. I to feel as though

someone really let of me out of the locked dark closet like room

around 7 years ago. I to ahve much catching up to do. but now exposed

to much life things, reality , pretend, toys and the world is not of

open to me and while happy to have of access to it , it isof also to

cause me overloads and too much anxiety because relatiy can cause of

me fears. Cant really read of anews paper or see ofhte news as it

causes me great unsettled feelings of my own safe in this world.

Sondra

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you are by far farther along in this journey than most and it

reflects a good outcome because you sound very balanced.

I to watch of the dog whisperer much as it is of now one of my

favorite shows and the other is of Deal or NO deal. I to laos like

most all classics that are family based, and much of the disney

movies. I to also like the medical mystery show/

When was of a little girl the only TV my brain would focus to was of

commercials but the one I to like the most was the begin of hte eye

witness news which at one point had of a red haired news broadcaster

and not know of her but remember of hte red hair of her. I to liked

the music of when that news show was of to begin and seeing the eye

witness news logo coming. this was of before school age and before

really understood words.

When was of school aged loved of the geni show and lost and space

because liked of that robot voice but was also some fearful of him.

Then liked of the bewitched show due to the powers and magic of her

being able to do her nose and things would be to change and so much

woukld try to wiggle of my own nose to make of things change for me

but they never did. As a pre teen it was of the little house on the

prarie and this is where I to first understood that emotions had of

names to them. was able to see of good parenting and real care to teh

family unit as a whole. it was waht i to based of my own parenting

with.

Then for much years no interest in TV because of little access to

them. htere are huge gaps of typical normal teen exposures to life,

because of being locked away, so not having access leaves me missing

huge areas of knowings that most others have. I to feel as though

someone really let of me out of the locked dark closet like room

around 7 years ago. I to ahve much catching up to do. but now exposed

to much life things, reality , pretend, toys and the world is not of

open to me and while happy to have of access to it , it isof also to

cause me overloads and too much anxiety because relatiy can cause of

me fears. Cant really read of anews paper or see ofhte news as it

causes me great unsettled feelings of my own safe in this world.

Sondra

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Amy recovery from what? has been to share he has come to a place

where he sees the blessings hims daughter has bringed to him and

loves of her for who she is not for what she is not. He is of by far

way ahead of most in this journey and hims daughter is of ever so

blessed to have of him in her life.

Nt all parents are out to change or cure or treat the autism in

disease fashions, for some yes and that is of the journey they are of

taking and their choices, but not all want or plan to seek of that. I

to know of many, many parents who seek of this route and they had for

years see of the best of the best for thier child in areas of

biomedical and done all the right things and paid of thousands of

dollars seeking that cure and 10 years later their child is still non

verbal, still not cured, and so recover and cure does not always take

place. I to nto be saying not supportive of families who do but do

not want to set up false hopes for a cure or recovery when for many

there will be none. For some who are of HFA or mildly affected maybe

but who is ot say that natural progression will not so call fix the

child in time even without the biomedical things.

My missy is of an example of this , she began of life more like that

of a classical child of autism. no language, head banged much so,

flapped, self stimmed, lined up many things and just had over all

unusual development in compare to the typical expected development.

She NEVER had any biomedical treatments but did have therapies and

such to help of her such as speech, OT, social, ext... much of all

her early development and she was in early intervention since early

due to birth complications, she was later dx with autism at age of 18-

20 months. Now at age of 14 she is very indistinguishable as having

auitsm, it was of a slow but natural progression to where she is of

now. she still has the dx but is mild in her expression of autism.

She is of with multiple Learning issues, and is yet still felt to be

with PDDNOS from one speicalist and another she is of considered mild

Aspergers. but to many they will never guess of this of her now.

Again she NEVER got of any biomedical things done to her.

But for me my autism is more involved than the childrens of me, and I

to also have many health issues so for me seeking biomedical for

health factors not seeking ir for a cure. But if a cure happens then

it was of meant to be for me. But so far not had any real biomedial

things and over the last 6-7 years with GOOD and appropriate for me

therapy I to be of maked much gains.

Sondra

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Amy recovery from what? has been to share he has come to a place

where he sees the blessings hims daughter has bringed to him and

loves of her for who she is not for what she is not. He is of by far

way ahead of most in this journey and hims daughter is of ever so

blessed to have of him in her life.

Nt all parents are out to change or cure or treat the autism in

disease fashions, for some yes and that is of the journey they are of

taking and their choices, but not all want or plan to seek of that. I

to know of many, many parents who seek of this route and they had for

years see of the best of the best for thier child in areas of

biomedical and done all the right things and paid of thousands of

dollars seeking that cure and 10 years later their child is still non

verbal, still not cured, and so recover and cure does not always take

place. I to nto be saying not supportive of families who do but do

not want to set up false hopes for a cure or recovery when for many

there will be none. For some who are of HFA or mildly affected maybe

but who is ot say that natural progression will not so call fix the

child in time even without the biomedical things.

My missy is of an example of this , she began of life more like that

of a classical child of autism. no language, head banged much so,

flapped, self stimmed, lined up many things and just had over all

unusual development in compare to the typical expected development.

She NEVER had any biomedical treatments but did have therapies and

such to help of her such as speech, OT, social, ext... much of all

her early development and she was in early intervention since early

due to birth complications, she was later dx with autism at age of 18-

20 months. Now at age of 14 she is very indistinguishable as having

auitsm, it was of a slow but natural progression to where she is of

now. she still has the dx but is mild in her expression of autism.

She is of with multiple Learning issues, and is yet still felt to be

with PDDNOS from one speicalist and another she is of considered mild

Aspergers. but to many they will never guess of this of her now.

Again she NEVER got of any biomedical things done to her.

But for me my autism is more involved than the childrens of me, and I

to also have many health issues so for me seeking biomedical for

health factors not seeking ir for a cure. But if a cure happens then

it was of meant to be for me. But so far not had any real biomedial

things and over the last 6-7 years with GOOD and appropriate for me

therapy I to be of maked much gains.

Sondra

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Please tell me about that.

Amy Wittman wrote: What about healing of

the insides?

Belcher wrote: Yes. She has been involved in

theraputic horse riding, gymnastics, and we are still waiting to see if she will

be accepted into an in-home intensive therapy program. As I said, she is now at

a specialty school, which has resulted in her meltdowns decreasing to nearly

nothing.

I brought her home through a busy airport last week, and all of the brushing

against and noise caused her to go back to her non-verbal state. Just growling

and efforts at signing. Occassionally I think I would like to move to a cabin in

northern wisconsin with a doormat that says, " If you don't want to be around

her, then I will keep her to myself. Its your loss. " Big doormat eh. I know. Its

not in her interest.

Amy Wittman wrote:

...Have you tried anything to help your daughter into recovery?

Amy

Belcher wrote:

First Sondra, thank you. I had a discussion with my daughter's case worker a

while back, and when she said how much work it is for parents to deal with an

autistic child, the only thing I could think to say was, I'm sorry their are

children with this illness, but I am eternally grateful for having been

entrusted with one of them.

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Please tell me about that.

Amy Wittman wrote: What about healing of

the insides?

Belcher wrote: Yes. She has been involved in

theraputic horse riding, gymnastics, and we are still waiting to see if she will

be accepted into an in-home intensive therapy program. As I said, she is now at

a specialty school, which has resulted in her meltdowns decreasing to nearly

nothing.

I brought her home through a busy airport last week, and all of the brushing

against and noise caused her to go back to her non-verbal state. Just growling

and efforts at signing. Occassionally I think I would like to move to a cabin in

northern wisconsin with a doormat that says, " If you don't want to be around

her, then I will keep her to myself. Its your loss. " Big doormat eh. I know. Its

not in her interest.

Amy Wittman wrote:

...Have you tried anything to help your daughter into recovery?

Amy

Belcher wrote:

First Sondra, thank you. I had a discussion with my daughter's case worker a

while back, and when she said how much work it is for parents to deal with an

autistic child, the only thing I could think to say was, I'm sorry their are

children with this illness, but I am eternally grateful for having been

entrusted with one of them.

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yes was just sharing that not all are of seeking this path, and some

are in different paths . If you to readed of my words you will be ot

see that I to not be against parents who seek that and actually

support where parents are in this journey is of all.

From my perspective he was sharing from where he was to where he is

of now in this journey and in that he has come to terms with it and

sees the many blessings that I to hope other familes can see in their

childrens too. If we only see of cures and we never see of the

chidlren as gifts and see of this journey in a balanced way we may

miss the gifts that are by the way side in this journey too. He is of

one walking the path with a wheel barrel metaphorically full of

blessings he has been to gain from this autism journey and through

hims daughter. He is not running on this path but walking and taking

hims time to enjoy the child he has now in front of him/ This does ot

equat he too is not seeking along the way to make of her life better

but he is of balanced and is of seeing it in a good healthy way. I to

most repect of him for that because when parents are balanced and

calm it allows us to feel balanced and calm. If we see and or sense

our parents frantic , panic ridden states it can escalate us too to

that level of response because we cant understand what is of going on

but can sense the unbalanced states.

So seeking biomedical is not bad or wrong, but to set families up as

if they will all find some magical cure that may or may not be is of

not a healthy balanced way , but if comes to them then it is of the

outcome that they found at the end of the journey.

I to just want of all the moms and dads to be of okay and not rushed

to go thorugh life seeking that cure only and forgetting to live day

by day and seeking out the good in this long journey too.

Maybe my words didnot reflect of that clearly but that is of what am

of trying to say.

When I to questioned of you it is because of the words of I to

see nothing in hims words about hims desire to cure or recover her ,

he is of not seeking that journey as he took a different path and is

of doing it slowly and balanced and healthy, is of all. So was of

confused by why after to read of hims words which shouts he is of

happy to be blessed in this journey by hims child, you would ask of

him if he is of ever seeked out cure or recovery for her. That is why

I to asked of you cured of what///// he is by far past that thinking

in regards to seeing of hims daughter for who she is not what she is

of not to him. Yet I to also read in hims words he seeks out that

which will benefit of her life in positive ways. I to meaned no evil

or intent, just lost as to why you questioned of him on this.

From my ways I to try hard to respect where parents are to be and not

give of such strong direct methodologies unless asked or if just

giving of my opinion that is of based from own self experiences or

exposures. There are quite a few biomedical families here and yet

never feel pressured, or questioned and or such to follow there paths

but they teach in ways that cause me to want to seek out and for that

I to love of the wisdom of and Debi and some of the other

families in how they bring the words here on such matters, I to

appreciate of the way and teaching styles they present. It is not

that you are of not right and or wrong but it is of my own learning

style and or the way in which I to read of you words at times that

causes me anxiety and lack why. I to think it is because of the

learning and teaching syles are not of the way in which I to

understand or gain from. Not saying you are of a bad person or evil

or things of that . I to not be of that sort of person as to me all

are of people that in this life have somethings to teach if we are of

willing to learn and so I to take all people as valued people for the

person they are not for who they are not or should be. I to hope this

makes of sense and not trying to offend but lacking how to say my

thinking in ways of better grammar.

Those who really know of me grammar and words are very hard even

though can speak of them. I to just have a very odd language that

developed in me and for that much of life have to adapt to try to say

things in ways others can comprehend of my thinking .

Sondra

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yes was just sharing that not all are of seeking this path, and some

are in different paths . If you to readed of my words you will be ot

see that I to not be against parents who seek that and actually

support where parents are in this journey is of all.

From my perspective he was sharing from where he was to where he is

of now in this journey and in that he has come to terms with it and

sees the many blessings that I to hope other familes can see in their

childrens too. If we only see of cures and we never see of the

chidlren as gifts and see of this journey in a balanced way we may

miss the gifts that are by the way side in this journey too. He is of

one walking the path with a wheel barrel metaphorically full of

blessings he has been to gain from this autism journey and through

hims daughter. He is not running on this path but walking and taking

hims time to enjoy the child he has now in front of him/ This does ot

equat he too is not seeking along the way to make of her life better

but he is of balanced and is of seeing it in a good healthy way. I to

most repect of him for that because when parents are balanced and

calm it allows us to feel balanced and calm. If we see and or sense

our parents frantic , panic ridden states it can escalate us too to

that level of response because we cant understand what is of going on

but can sense the unbalanced states.

So seeking biomedical is not bad or wrong, but to set families up as

if they will all find some magical cure that may or may not be is of

not a healthy balanced way , but if comes to them then it is of the

outcome that they found at the end of the journey.

I to just want of all the moms and dads to be of okay and not rushed

to go thorugh life seeking that cure only and forgetting to live day

by day and seeking out the good in this long journey too.

Maybe my words didnot reflect of that clearly but that is of what am

of trying to say.

When I to questioned of you it is because of the words of I to

see nothing in hims words about hims desire to cure or recover her ,

he is of not seeking that journey as he took a different path and is

of doing it slowly and balanced and healthy, is of all. So was of

confused by why after to read of hims words which shouts he is of

happy to be blessed in this journey by hims child, you would ask of

him if he is of ever seeked out cure or recovery for her. That is why

I to asked of you cured of what///// he is by far past that thinking

in regards to seeing of hims daughter for who she is not what she is

of not to him. Yet I to also read in hims words he seeks out that

which will benefit of her life in positive ways. I to meaned no evil

or intent, just lost as to why you questioned of him on this.

From my ways I to try hard to respect where parents are to be and not

give of such strong direct methodologies unless asked or if just

giving of my opinion that is of based from own self experiences or

exposures. There are quite a few biomedical families here and yet

never feel pressured, or questioned and or such to follow there paths

but they teach in ways that cause me to want to seek out and for that

I to love of the wisdom of and Debi and some of the other

families in how they bring the words here on such matters, I to

appreciate of the way and teaching styles they present. It is not

that you are of not right and or wrong but it is of my own learning

style and or the way in which I to read of you words at times that

causes me anxiety and lack why. I to think it is because of the

learning and teaching syles are not of the way in which I to

understand or gain from. Not saying you are of a bad person or evil

or things of that . I to not be of that sort of person as to me all

are of people that in this life have somethings to teach if we are of

willing to learn and so I to take all people as valued people for the

person they are not for who they are not or should be. I to hope this

makes of sense and not trying to offend but lacking how to say my

thinking in ways of better grammar.

Those who really know of me grammar and words are very hard even

though can speak of them. I to just have a very odd language that

developed in me and for that much of life have to adapt to try to say

things in ways others can comprehend of my thinking .

Sondra

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Very well said Sondra :)

Amnesty

>

> yes was just sharing that not all are of seeking this path, and some

> are in different paths . If you to readed of my words you will be ot

> see that I to not be against parents who seek that and actually

> support where parents are in this journey is of all.

>

> From my perspective he was sharing from where he was to where he is

> of now in this journey and in that he has come to terms with it and

> sees the many blessings that I to hope other familes can see in their

> childrens too. If we only see of cures and we never see of the

> chidlren as gifts and see of this journey in a balanced way we may

> miss the gifts that are by the way side in this journey too. He is of

> one walking the path with a wheel barrel metaphorically full of

> blessings he has been to gain from this autism journey and through

> hims daughter. He is not running on this path but walking and taking

> hims time to enjoy the child he has now in front of him/ This does ot

> equat he too is not seeking along the way to make of her life better

> but he is of balanced and is of seeing it in a good healthy way. I to

> most repect of him for that because when parents are balanced and

> calm it allows us to feel balanced and calm. If we see and or sense

> our parents frantic , panic ridden states it can escalate us too to

> that level of response because we cant understand what is of going on

> but can sense the unbalanced states.

>

> So seeking biomedical is not bad or wrong, but to set families up as

> if they will all find some magical cure that may or may not be is of

> not a healthy balanced way , but if comes to them then it is of the

> outcome that they found at the end of the journey.

>

> I to just want of all the moms and dads to be of okay and not rushed

> to go thorugh life seeking that cure only and forgetting to live day

> by day and seeking out the good in this long journey too.

>

> Maybe my words didnot reflect of that clearly but that is of what am

> of trying to say.

>

> When I to questioned of you it is because of the words of I to

> see nothing in hims words about hims desire to cure or recover her ,

> he is of not seeking that journey as he took a different path and is

> of doing it slowly and balanced and healthy, is of all. So was of

> confused by why after to read of hims words which shouts he is of

> happy to be blessed in this journey by hims child, you would ask of

> him if he is of ever seeked out cure or recovery for her. That is why

> I to asked of you cured of what///// he is by far past that thinking

> in regards to seeing of hims daughter for who she is not what she is

> of not to him. Yet I to also read in hims words he seeks out that

> which will benefit of her life in positive ways. I to meaned no evil

> or intent, just lost as to why you questioned of him on this.

>

> From my ways I to try hard to respect where parents are to be and not

> give of such strong direct methodologies unless asked or if just

> giving of my opinion that is of based from own self experiences or

> exposures. There are quite a few biomedical families here and yet

> never feel pressured, or questioned and or such to follow there paths

> but they teach in ways that cause me to want to seek out and for that

> I to love of the wisdom of and Debi and some of the other

> families in how they bring the words here on such matters, I to

> appreciate of the way and teaching styles they present. It is not

> that you are of not right and or wrong but it is of my own learning

> style and or the way in which I to read of you words at times that

> causes me anxiety and lack why. I to think it is because of the

> learning and teaching syles are not of the way in which I to

> understand or gain from. Not saying you are of a bad person or evil

> or things of that . I to not be of that sort of person as to me all

> are of people that in this life have somethings to teach if we are of

> willing to learn and so I to take all people as valued people for the

> person they are not for who they are not or should be. I to hope this

> makes of sense and not trying to offend but lacking how to say my

> thinking in ways of better grammar.

>

> Those who really know of me grammar and words are very hard even

> though can speak of them. I to just have a very odd language that

> developed in me and for that much of life have to adapt to try to say

> things in ways others can comprehend of my thinking .

>

> Sondra

>

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Very well said Sondra :)

Amnesty

>

> yes was just sharing that not all are of seeking this path, and some

> are in different paths . If you to readed of my words you will be ot

> see that I to not be against parents who seek that and actually

> support where parents are in this journey is of all.

>

> From my perspective he was sharing from where he was to where he is

> of now in this journey and in that he has come to terms with it and

> sees the many blessings that I to hope other familes can see in their

> childrens too. If we only see of cures and we never see of the

> chidlren as gifts and see of this journey in a balanced way we may

> miss the gifts that are by the way side in this journey too. He is of

> one walking the path with a wheel barrel metaphorically full of

> blessings he has been to gain from this autism journey and through

> hims daughter. He is not running on this path but walking and taking

> hims time to enjoy the child he has now in front of him/ This does ot

> equat he too is not seeking along the way to make of her life better

> but he is of balanced and is of seeing it in a good healthy way. I to

> most repect of him for that because when parents are balanced and

> calm it allows us to feel balanced and calm. If we see and or sense

> our parents frantic , panic ridden states it can escalate us too to

> that level of response because we cant understand what is of going on

> but can sense the unbalanced states.

>

> So seeking biomedical is not bad or wrong, but to set families up as

> if they will all find some magical cure that may or may not be is of

> not a healthy balanced way , but if comes to them then it is of the

> outcome that they found at the end of the journey.

>

> I to just want of all the moms and dads to be of okay and not rushed

> to go thorugh life seeking that cure only and forgetting to live day

> by day and seeking out the good in this long journey too.

>

> Maybe my words didnot reflect of that clearly but that is of what am

> of trying to say.

>

> When I to questioned of you it is because of the words of I to

> see nothing in hims words about hims desire to cure or recover her ,

> he is of not seeking that journey as he took a different path and is

> of doing it slowly and balanced and healthy, is of all. So was of

> confused by why after to read of hims words which shouts he is of

> happy to be blessed in this journey by hims child, you would ask of

> him if he is of ever seeked out cure or recovery for her. That is why

> I to asked of you cured of what///// he is by far past that thinking

> in regards to seeing of hims daughter for who she is not what she is

> of not to him. Yet I to also read in hims words he seeks out that

> which will benefit of her life in positive ways. I to meaned no evil

> or intent, just lost as to why you questioned of him on this.

>

> From my ways I to try hard to respect where parents are to be and not

> give of such strong direct methodologies unless asked or if just

> giving of my opinion that is of based from own self experiences or

> exposures. There are quite a few biomedical families here and yet

> never feel pressured, or questioned and or such to follow there paths

> but they teach in ways that cause me to want to seek out and for that

> I to love of the wisdom of and Debi and some of the other

> families in how they bring the words here on such matters, I to

> appreciate of the way and teaching styles they present. It is not

> that you are of not right and or wrong but it is of my own learning

> style and or the way in which I to read of you words at times that

> causes me anxiety and lack why. I to think it is because of the

> learning and teaching syles are not of the way in which I to

> understand or gain from. Not saying you are of a bad person or evil

> or things of that . I to not be of that sort of person as to me all

> are of people that in this life have somethings to teach if we are of

> willing to learn and so I to take all people as valued people for the

> person they are not for who they are not or should be. I to hope this

> makes of sense and not trying to offend but lacking how to say my

> thinking in ways of better grammar.

>

> Those who really know of me grammar and words are very hard even

> though can speak of them. I to just have a very odd language that

> developed in me and for that much of life have to adapt to try to say

> things in ways others can comprehend of my thinking .

>

> Sondra

>

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