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Abby, they say that Enbrel works better when combined with MTX, but it

works well for me without it. I can't take MTX because my white blood

cell count continues to be below normal, so I am on just Enbrel, along

with Celebrex. This combination is working extremely well for me, and

leaves me with very little pain. Sue

On Thursday, July 14, 2005, at 02:11 AM, getcoffee@... wrote:

>

> How many of you are on Enbrel and MTX? I am taking Enbrel and my

> rheumatologist and I talked about adding MTX in the Fall when it

> starts raining more

> since I have more problem with rainy weather. I am hoping to avoid

> adding MTX

> because I just don't want to take any more meds but I'm curious what

> other

> folks are doing.

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Dear Friends,

It has been my understanding (perhaps a mistaken one ?) that the low-dose of

MTX had to be taken in order to keep our wacky immune systens friom attacking

the Enbrel medication. When I took Enbrel for a short time, I was unable to

take Metho, due to the fact that the the last two times I took it, within 48

houts of the first dose- even a small dose- my liver and kidneys would come

up bad on the lab work. So, I had to take Imuran instead- and we think that

worked- although we do not know for sure since the Enbrel only worked for a

few months and then stopped working. The question as to why it stopped

working is a good one,

Group founder

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My Dr. does not require me to do MTX w/ Enbrel.

Hmmm....

In a message dated 1/15/03 4:35:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, CTNATIVE@...

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> Dear Friends,

>

> It has been my understanding (perhaps a mistaken one ?) that the low-dose

> of

> MTX had to be taken in order to keep our wacky immune systens friom

> attacking

> the Enbrel medication. When I took Enbrel for a short time, I was unable

> to

> take Metho, due to the fact that the the last two times I took it, within

> 48

> houts of the first dose- even a small dose- my liver and kidneys would come

>

> up bad on the lab work. So, I had to take Imuran instead- and we think

> that

> worked- although we do not know for sure since the Enbrel only worked for a

>

> few months and then stopped working. The question as to why it stopped

> working is a good one,

>

>

> Group founder

>

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Nor does my . He said that there are very few cases if you have PA

that you need both. It is given together usually if you have RA. Anyway,

anyone have any news about the new med out Hum???? or is there anyone out

there taking it? Got my Remicade today and my doc gave me the option of

switching to it or to Enbrel. What to do, what to do? I do have my number

to start Enbrel and my insurance covers a 90 day supply for $60. I know

nothing about this new drug so any feedback would be appreciated...feel free

to E-mail me personally at CND110370@...!

hickory, NC

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pookiegut@... writes:

> My Dr. does not require me to do MTX w/ Enbrel.

>

> Hmmm....

>

- me either - but because of elevated liver enzymes in my case, we

wanted me off the MTX totally. It's unusual not to stay on some MTX if there

is no reason not to because of the risk of a flare. But if it's working -

it's a good thing not to take the MTX because of the nasty side effects.

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WOW! That is GREAT coverage. I have to cover 10% of the cost p/ month. From

what I have read about Humira... the side effects are the same/almost the

same as Enbrel. It is a very similar drug, but the manufacturing is easier.

You inject once every 2 weeks, instead of twice a week. It will be more

convenient, but I want to wait until it's out for a while before I try it.

The other problem is it's not approved for PA yet, and my Dr. says it will be

a while before that happens. You can certainly start Enbrel now and move on

to Humira later?

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CND110370@... writes:

> I do have my number

> to start Enbrel and my insurance covers a 90 day supply for $60. I know

> nothing about this new drug so any feedback would be appreciated...feel

> free

> to E-mail me personally at CND110370@...!

>

>

>

> hickory, NC

>

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My Dr. does not like MTX for anyone with anything. He hates that he has to

require patients to take it with Remicade, and told me last that he hopes

that will change in the near future.

However, he does believe if you have been on MTX for an extended period of

time that going off of it can be worse than staying on it. (as far as the way

the body reacts to being off of something it has grown to need.) So, in that

case you would need to take both with

In a message dated 1/16/03 8:17:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, web63@...

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> And my doctor does require MTX with Enbrel.....

> GO FIGURE!!! Different strokes for different folks....

>

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My Dr. does not like MTX for anyone with anything. He hates that he has to

require patients to take it with Remicade, and told me last that he hopes

that will change in the near future.

However, he does believe if you have been on MTX for an extended period of

time that going off of it can be worse than staying on it. (as far as the way

the body reacts to being off of something it has grown to need.) So, in that

case you would need to take both with the Enbrel. My friend Toni has to do

both, and her Dr. said it was due to the flare she would go through coming

off of MTX. (She has been on it for over 10 years)

Who knows!

In a message dated 1/16/03 8:17:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, web63@...

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> And my doctor does require MTX with Enbrel.....

> GO FIGURE!!! Different strokes for different folks....

>

[Ed. Note: I was already on Arava when I started Remicade, and my rheumy said to

just stay on the Arava because it has an effect similar to MTX and that there

was no reason to switch to MTX. Arava agrees with me *much* more than MTX. Ron]

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ljtexas@... writes:

> - my insurance costs $5 for a 90 day supply of anything I am

> prescribed. Blue Cross Blue Shield. J

>

,

I thought I was lucky to only have to pay $60 for a 90 day supply, but $5 you

are so very luck. I too have BCBS, but of NC, I wish my co-pay was that low!

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Hi - my Dr prescribed Enbrel and did not take me off the methotrexate.

I desparately want to get rid of the MTX because of the fatigue afterwards.

After reading about 3 weeks of this forum, I have stopped the MTX and Celebrex

and will just keep taking the Enbrel. So far I have not experienced any

difference in how I feel at all so unless something happens to change that, I

will continue with only the Enbrel.

One of the major problems I have been having is the lack of juice! Give me some

spit - give me some tears! I am hoping not taking these drugs will get these

back soon. J

Re: [ ] Re:Enbrel and MTX

Nor does my . He said that there are very few cases if you have PA

that you need both. It is given together usually if you have RA. Anyway,

anyone have any news about the new med out Hum???? or is there anyone out

there taking it? Got my Remicade today and my doc gave me the option of

switching to it or to Enbrel. What to do, what to do? I do have my number

to start Enbrel and my insurance covers a 90 day supply for $60. I know

nothing about this new drug so any feedback would be appreciated...feel free

to E-mail me personally at CND110370@...!

hickory, NC

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- my insurance costs $5 for a 90 day supply of anything I am prescribed.

Blue Cross Blue Shield. J

Re: [ ] Re:Enbrel and MTX

WOW! That is GREAT coverage. I have to cover 10% of the cost p/ month. From

what I have read about Humira... the side effects are the same/almost the

same as Enbrel. It is a very similar drug, but the manufacturing is easier.

You inject once every 2 weeks, instead of twice a week. It will be more

convenient, but I want to wait until it's out for a while before I try it.

The other problem is it's not approved for PA yet, and my Dr. says it will be

a while before that happens. You can certainly start Enbrel now and move on

to Humira later?

In a message dated 1/16/03 8:21:18 PM Eastern Standard Time,

CND110370@... writes:

> I do have my number

> to start Enbrel and my insurance covers a 90 day supply for $60. I know

> nothing about this new drug so any feedback would be appreciated...feel

> free

> to E-mail me personally at CND110370@...!

>

>

>

> hickory, NC

>

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That's AWESOME! I just payed a $561 co-pay for my first month supply. Now I will

pay $111 a month until I hit $1000, and then they will pay 100%. I am with

Principal, but my insurance is covered 100% by my company, so I really can't

complain. I can go to any Dr. I want to on my plan, so I do like that.

In a message dated 1/17/2003 12:16:10 PM Eastern Standard Time,

ljtexas@... writes:

> - my insurance costs $5 for a 90 day supply of

> anything I am prescribed. Blue Cross Blue Shield. J

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Hi there,

I am on Enbrel, Methotrexate and Arava. My newest treatment is Enbrel.

It is starting to give me relief finally. I don't like taking so much

medication either but we have to do what we have to do.

Good luck!

Corinne

getcoffee@... wrote:

> Hi all,

>

> How many of you are on Enbrel and MTX? I am taking Enbrel and my

> rheumatologist and I talked about adding MTX in the Fall when it

> starts raining more

> since I have more problem with rainy weather. I am hoping to avoid

> adding MTX

> because I just don't want to take any more meds but I'm curious what

> other

> folks are doing.

>

> Thanks,

> Abby

>

>

>

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Abby,

I have been on MTX for awhile, first with Humira, and now with

Plaquenil. It works well for me, Tawny

> Hi all,

>

> How many of you are on Enbrel and MTX? I am taking Enbrel and my

> rheumatologist and I talked about adding MTX in the Fall when it

starts raining more

> since I have more problem with rainy weather. I am hoping to avoid

adding MTX

> because I just don't want to take any more meds but I'm curious

what other

> folks are doing.

>

> Thanks,

> Abby

>

>

>

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Hi there, Abby. I started out on MTX alone. Then went through

Remicaid and Kineret before going onto Enbrel. I was taking 25mg of

MTX pills up until April. I was switched to the injection at that

point to see if it wouldn't be more effective. It was. I have fewer

GI side effects from the injection than I did with the pills and I

also find that it is much more effective. You don't lose as much of

it through digestion if you take by injection. The combination has

been VERY effective. Don't expect the pills to be effective

overnight. It takes time for MTX to build up in your system...Marina

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I was actually taking MTX by mouth as the first

treatment option and was switched to MTX injections

when the pills didn't work. Then, the injections

weren't working by themselves and that's when he added

enbrel in addition to the mtx. I felt almost an

immediate difference! The two meds work so well

together for me! I do my enbrel injection on friday

mornings and mtx injection on saturday mornings. It's

really not that bad! Good luck.

diana

louisiana

--- getcoffee@... wrote:

> Hi all,

>

> How many of you are on Enbrel and MTX? I am taking

> Enbrel and my

> rheumatologist and I talked about adding MTX in the

> Fall when it starts raining more

> since I have more problem with rainy weather. I am

> hoping to avoid adding MTX

> because I just don't want to take any more meds but

> I'm curious what other

> folks are doing.

>

> Thanks,

> Abby

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

>

>

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Abby,

I take both, allthough I have not been on Enbrel but

about a month. I feel great other than my frozen

shoulder being sore. I seem to feel better with more

energy.I hope this helps.

Beth(AR)

--- getcoffee@... wrote:

> Hi all,

>

> How many of you are on Enbrel and MTX? I am taking

> Enbrel and my

> rheumatologist and I talked about adding MTX in the

> Fall when it starts raining more

> since I have more problem with rainy weather. I am

> hoping to avoid adding MTX

> because I just don't want to take any more meds but

> I'm curious what other

> folks are doing.

>

> Thanks,

> Abby

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

>

>

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I've been on Enbrel since 1999 and will be starting MTX injections next

week. The injectable form has been backordered, so I've had to wait to

get it. I finally got it yesterday and will be starting on a low dose

on Monday. I too don't want to take any more meds, but the combo of

MTX and Enbrel are showing the greatest success, so I'll try it.

a

On Jul 14, 2005, at 2:11 AM, getcoffee@... wrote:

> Hi all,

>

> How many of you are on Enbrel and MTX? I am taking Enbrel and my 

> rheumatologist and I talked about adding MTX in the Fall when it

> starts raining  more

> since I have more problem with rainy weather. I am hoping to avoid

> adding  MTX

> because I just don't want to take any more meds but I'm curious what

> other 

> folks are doing.

>

> Thanks,

> Abby

>

>

>

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Hi

I have been taking MTX and Enbrel for a few years and my joint deformity and

progression of disease has slowed quite considerably. I have actually gone

skiing in Aspen Colorado! I have my moments with heat and humitidy...other than

that, I wake each day with little to no pain and stiffness.

Good luck-

Side effects of meth, 2.5 mg, 4 dose, once a week is fatigue. Sometimes

headache.

I am 34 years old,

Kim

getcoffee@... wrote:

Hi all,

How many of you are on Enbrel and MTX? I am taking Enbrel and my

rheumatologist and I talked about adding MTX in the Fall when it starts raining

more

since I have more problem with rainy weather. I am hoping to avoid adding MTX

because I just don't want to take any more meds but I'm curious what other

folks are doing.

Thanks,

Abby

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> I can't answer your question directly, but I will tell you this. My

> daughter took Humira injections for a month every week and it really wasn't

> helping with the pain too well. Like you and Enbrel, it helped with the

> fatigue some, but she was still having a lot of pain in her hands and feet.

> Three weeks ago her rheumy added injectable MTX every week along with the

> Humira. She is practically pain free now (accept for the pain from an

> appendectomy on Monday - ouch).

Thx, Lori :) My rh seems fairly anti-mtx but I'm thinking it may be time

to try it. I *so* want to be relatively pain free :)

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