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Hi Les,

Have you tried Enbrel or Humira yet? The reason I ask is because before I

did, I was given the option of fusing my left wrist also. The pain was

unbelievable, just having it touched hurt tremendously. And using it, whew!

Then I started with Enbrel. It is a wonder drug. (I wonder if the side

effects will " get me " later...) I can touch it, move it, use it all without

pain. Most of the bones have fused together on their own, so I have very

little range of motion but it's almost unbelievable how the pain has

subsided. Just my 2 cents, best of luck to you.

Joanne in IL

[ ] hand surgeon appt.

> Hi everyone,

>

> I have an appt. with my hand surgeon tomorrow to discuss fusing rt

> wrist and repairing ligament and tendon in left wrist. The

> rheumatologist is quite anxious to put me on Methotrexate, but can't

> until I take care of my wrists.

>

> I have been doing some web searching for RA and was stunned to learn

> that RA can cause AVN (dead bones) which is the reason for the fusion.

> I was also stunned to learn that people with thyroid dysfunction are

> 3 times more likely to get RA. I have thyroid dysfunctionn as well.

> This is all very overwhelming and so much to absorb.

>

> Does the Methotrexate cause additional fatigue? I have so much of it

> already that I can't imagine being on a drug that makes it worse. I'm

> also taking an anti-inflamitory called Relafen. If any of you take

> this, have you noticed any increase in RA pain in areas like feet and

> ankles? When I was first diagnosed, a week ago, I didn't have pain in

> my feet and ankles, but since being on this Relafen I have had pretty

> bad painns in my feet and ankles. Do you think there could be a

> correlation or is this just a coincidence that the pain began near the

> tme I started the relafen?

>

> Thanks for listening and I look forward to your toughts on these

> questions.

>

> All my best,

> Les

>

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--Hi Joanne,

Thanks for the input. That's very interesting to learn about Enbrel.

I'm so new in the diagnosis part that right now all I'm taking is an

anti-inflamitory drug (Relafin.) I've had problems with my wrist for

years and have had 4 surgeries already and the fusion will be the 5th.

I have had the scaphoid and lunate bones die (AVN) and have been

getting treatment/surgeries in hopes of getting rid of that awful

pain. THe last surgery they removed an entire row of carpal wrist

bones which included the dead scaphoid and lunate bones. THat didn't

work and so now they tell me the only option is the fusion. I will

look into the Enbrel though.

My rheumatologist told me that she can't put me on any other meds

until I find out from the hand surgeon what is to be done to treat my

wrists. So, I wait. Hopefully I will have some concrete answers

tomorrow and can finally get some results from my rheummy doc.

Thanks again.

Les,in Georgia

>

> Hi Les,

>

> Have you tried Enbrel or Humira yet? The reason I ask is because

before I

> did, I was given the option of fusing my left wrist also. The pain was

> unbelievable, just having it touched hurt tremendously. And using

it, whew!

> Then I started with Enbrel. It is a wonder drug. (I wonder if the

side

> effects will " get me " later...) I can touch it, move it, use it all

without

> pain. Most of the bones have fused together on their own, so I have

very

> little range of motion but it's almost unbelievable how the pain has

> subsided. Just my 2 cents, best of luck to you.

> Joanne in IL

>

>

> [ ] hand surgeon appt.

>

>

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > I have an appt. with my hand surgeon tomorrow to discuss fusing rt

> > wrist and repairing ligament and tendon in left wrist. The

> > rheumatologist is quite anxious to put me on Methotrexate, but can't

> > until I take care of my wrists.

> >

> > I have been doing some web searching for RA and was stunned to learn

> > that RA can cause AVN (dead bones) which is the reason for the fusion.

> > I was also stunned to learn that people with thyroid dysfunction are

> > 3 times more likely to get RA. I have thyroid dysfunctionn as well.

> > This is all very overwhelming and so much to absorb.

> >

> > Does the Methotrexate cause additional fatigue? I have so much of it

> > already that I can't imagine being on a drug that makes it worse. I'm

> > also taking an anti-inflamitory called Relafen. If any of you take

> > this, have you noticed any increase in RA pain in areas like feet and

> > ankles? When I was first diagnosed, a week ago, I didn't have pain in

> > my feet and ankles, but since being on this Relafen I have had pretty

> > bad painns in my feet and ankles. Do you think there could be a

> > correlation or is this just a coincidence that the pain began near the

> > tme I started the relafen?

> >

> > Thanks for listening and I look forward to your toughts on these

> > questions.

> >

> > All my best,

> > Les

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Don't underesti,ate the recovery time of your surgery. Make sure everything you

need to do for a month is done. If you are left handed make sure to presign

checks, pay bills, freezer some dinners etc. The tendon realignment will knock

you on your butt! I am 6 days post op with my MCP synovectomies and tendon

realignments and boy does it hurt. My whole hand is swollen and bruised, as are

my fingers. From sleeping and sitting I got a bladder infection and

sciatica...ugh.

[ ] hand surgeon appt.

Hi everyone,

I have an appt. with my hand surgeon tomorrow to discuss fusing rt

wrist and repairing ligament and tendon in left wrist. The

rheumatologist is quite anxious to put me on Methotrexate, but can't

until I take care of my wrists.

I have been doing some web searching for RA and was stunned to learn

that RA can cause AVN (dead bones) which is the reason for the fusion.

I was also stunned to learn that people with thyroid dysfunction are

3 times more likely to get RA. I have thyroid dysfunctionn as well.

This is all very overwhelming and so much to absorb.

Does the Methotrexate cause additional fatigue? I have so much of it

already that I can't imagine being on a drug that makes it worse. I'm

also taking an anti-inflamitory called Relafen. If any of you take

this, have you noticed any increase in RA pain in areas like feet and

ankles? When I was first diagnosed, a week ago, I didn't have pain in

my feet and ankles, but since being on this Relafen I have had pretty

bad painns in my feet and ankles. Do you think there could be a

correlation or is this just a coincidence that the pain began near the

tme I started the relafen?

Thanks for listening and I look forward to your toughts on these

questions.

All my best,

Les

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Hi Joanne,

It's very early in my diagnosis and so right now all I'm taking is an

anti-inflammatory med called Relafen. I have been taking it for about

5 days now. No real help yet. Hopefully soon. For some reason it

sems my symptoms of RA have increased since being on the Relafen, but

maybe it's just coincidence.

I will discuss your suggestion with my doctor about Enbrel. I've had 4

surgeries for my wrist in an attempt to help get rid of the pain. The

last surgery was a PRC where they removed a row of bones in my wrist

hoping that would do the trick since it got rid of my (AVN) dead

bones. But, that was not to be, I guess. I hate thatI can't start

treatment for my RA until the issues with my 2 wrists are resolved. I

understand that the Methotrexate compromises the immune system so

having surgery after being on the meds is not a good thing, but I am

in such discomfort that I want to try anything to see if it gives some

relief.

Well thanks for the input and I'll let you know what the doc says.

Have a great day,

Les in Georgia

> Hi Les,

>

> Have you tried Enbrel or Humira yet? The reason I ask is because

before I

> did, I was given the option of fusing my left wrist also. The pain was

> unbelievable, just having it touched hurt tremendously. And using

it, whew!

> Then I started with Enbrel. It is a wonder drug. (I wonder if the

side

> effects will " get me " later...) I can touch it, move it, use it all

without

> pain. Most of the bones have fused together on their own, so I have

very

> little range of motion but it's almost unbelievable how the pain has

> subsided. Just my 2 cents, best of luck to you.

> Joanne in IL

>

>

> [ ] hand surgeon appt.

>

>

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > I have an appt. with my hand surgeon tomorrow to discuss fusing rt

> > wrist and repairing ligament and tendon in left wrist. The

> > rheumatologist is quite anxious to put me on Methotrexate, but can't

> > until I take care of my wrists.

> >

> > I have been doing some web searching for RA and was stunned to learn

> > that RA can cause AVN (dead bones) which is the reason for the fusion.

> > I was also stunned to learn that people with thyroid dysfunction are

> > 3 times more likely to get RA. I have thyroid dysfunctionn as well.

> > This is all very overwhelming and so much to absorb.

> >

> > Does the Methotrexate cause additional fatigue? I have so much of it

> > already that I can't imagine being on a drug that makes it worse. I'm

> > also taking an anti-inflamitory called Relafen. If any of you take

> > this, have you noticed any increase in RA pain in areas like feet and

> > ankles? When I was first diagnosed, a week ago, I didn't have pain in

> > my feet and ankles, but since being on this Relafen I have had pretty

> > bad painns in my feet and ankles. Do you think there could be a

> > correlation or is this just a coincidence that the pain began near the

> > tme I started the relafen?

> >

> > Thanks for listening and I look forward to your toughts on these

> > questions.

> >

> > All my best,

> > Les

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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--- Thanks for the advice. I'll get to the store before surgery and

get all the necessary things done before my life takes a huge dive. I

hadn't thought about presigning checks, that's a great idea, thanks.

That's good to know about ht tendon pain. Hopefully I will be able to

tolerate the pain meds. I have typically had a rough go of it for the

first 48 hours with nausea from the anesthesia, so hopefully they will

give me something to help with that.

I'm sorry you are in so much pain. I hope you get some relief soon.

Let me know how it goes for you and not to be selfish, but I'd like to

know what to expect. The wrist fusion is a difficult procedure, and

then with the other wrist and the torn ligament and tendon repair, it

will be a bit dicy figuring out how to manage things with two bum

hands. However, I have 2 bum hands now, so it can't bethat bad,

right!! :o) thanks again,

Take care,

Les

>

> Don't underesti,ate the recovery time of your surgery. Make sure

everything you need to do for a month is done. If you are left handed

make sure to presign checks, pay bills, freezer some dinners etc. The

tendon realignment will knock you on your butt! I am 6 days post op

with my MCP synovectomies and tendon realignments and boy does it

hurt. My whole hand is swollen and bruised, as are my fingers. From

sleeping and sitting I got a bladder infection and sciatica...ugh.

>

> [ ] hand surgeon appt.

>

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I have an appt. with my hand surgeon tomorrow to discuss fusing rt

> wrist and repairing ligament and tendon in left wrist. The

> rheumatologist is quite anxious to put me on Methotrexate, but can't

> until I take care of my wrists.

>

> I have been doing some web searching for RA and was stunned to learn

> that RA can cause AVN (dead bones) which is the reason for the fusion.

> I was also stunned to learn that people with thyroid dysfunction are

> 3 times more likely to get RA. I have thyroid dysfunctionn as well.

> This is all very overwhelming and so much to absorb.

>

> Does the Methotrexate cause additional fatigue? I have so much of it

> already that I can't imagine being on a drug that makes it worse. I'm

> also taking an anti-inflamitory called Relafen. If any of you take

> this, have you noticed any increase in RA pain in areas like feet and

> ankles? When I was first diagnosed, a week ago, I didn't have pain in

> my feet and ankles, but since being on this Relafen I have had pretty

> bad painns in my feet and ankles. Do you think there could be a

> correlation or is this just a coincidence that the pain began near the

> tme I started the relafen?

>

> Thanks for listening and I look forward to your toughts on these

> questions.

>

> All my best,

> Les

>

>

>

>

>

>

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-Les,

If you have a history of nausea/vomiting after surgery when the

anesthesiologist comes in before surgery share that with him/her..and

ask for somethig by IV to help prevent it. They have several

different meds that they an give you IV that will eliminate or

signifigantly derease any nausea/vomiting..and why suffer

needlessly?? Good luck with your surgery!.......jenna

-- In , " " <leslielick777@...> wrote:

>

> --- Thanks for the advice. I'll get to the store before surgery and

> get all the necessary things done before my life takes a huge

dive. I

> hadn't thought about presigning checks, that's a great idea, thanks.

>

> That's good to know about ht tendon pain. Hopefully I will be able

to

> tolerate the pain meds. I have typically had a rough go of it for

the

> first 48 hours with nausea from the anesthesia, so hopefully they

will

> give me something to help with that.

>

> I'm sorry you are in so much pain. I hope you get some relief

soon.

> Let me know how it goes for you and not to be selfish, but I'd like

to

> know what to expect. The wrist fusion is a difficult procedure,

and

> then with the other wrist and the torn ligament and tendon repair,

it

> will be a bit dicy figuring out how to manage things with two bum

> hands. However, I have 2 bum hands now, so it can't bethat bad,

> right!! :o) thanks again,

>

> Take care,

> Les

>

>

>

> >

> > Don't underesti,ate the recovery time of your surgery. Make sure

> everything you need to do for a month is done. If you are left

handed

> make sure to presign checks, pay bills, freezer some dinners etc.

The

> tendon realignment will knock you on your butt! I am 6 days post op

> with my MCP synovectomies and tendon realignments and boy does it

> hurt. My whole hand is swollen and bruised, as are my fingers.

From

> sleeping and sitting I got a bladder infection and sciatica...ugh.

> >

> > [ ] hand surgeon appt.

> >

> >

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > I have an appt. with my hand surgeon tomorrow to discuss fusing

rt

> > wrist and repairing ligament and tendon in left wrist. The

> > rheumatologist is quite anxious to put me on Methotrexate, but

can't

> > until I take care of my wrists.

> >

> > I have been doing some web searching for RA and was stunned to

learn

> > that RA can cause AVN (dead bones) which is the reason for the

fusion.

> > I was also stunned to learn that people with thyroid

dysfunction are

> > 3 times more likely to get RA. I have thyroid dysfunctionn as

well.

> > This is all very overwhelming and so much to absorb.

> >

> > Does the Methotrexate cause additional fatigue? I have so much

of it

> > already that I can't imagine being on a drug that makes it

worse. I'm

> > also taking an anti-inflamitory called Relafen. If any of you

take

> > this, have you noticed any increase in RA pain in areas like

feet and

> > ankles? When I was first diagnosed, a week ago, I didn't have

pain in

> > my feet and ankles, but since being on this Relafen I have had

pretty

> > bad painns in my feet and ankles. Do you think there could be a

> > correlation or is this just a coincidence that the pain began

near the

> > tme I started the relafen?

> >

> > Thanks for listening and I look forward to your toughts on these

> > questions.

> >

> > All my best,

> > Les

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I had my tendon realignment done under a regional block. The bad thing is they

give the needle essentially in your arm pit, the good thing is they sedate you

so you don't know it. However, most people don't like the idea of a block

because they feel they may panic if awake. Personally, I am afraid of general

anesthesia. Of course they may not be able to properly numb the area and you

would have to be put under. I am glad everything numbed up!

Once I get a good report from my surgeon I can tell you want we did. My

synvectomies and tendon realignments were for my MCPs, not wrist. However, I

can't imagine wrist fusion and tendon realignment is any more fun. I was in the

OR for 3 hours, recovery for 90 minutes and then went home in a plaster split

from finger tips to elbow. Therapy starts as soon as you can get an appointment

post op. There I was fitting with resting and dynamic extensor splints. I will

wear splints for a MINIMUM of 6-8 weeks continuously. After that I can ditch

the day splint but I will still have to use night splints for 3-6 months, and

maybe forever. I was treated for ulnar drift though.

Post op 6 days and I can forego pain meds except at night. From being immobile

I gained a bladder infection and sciatica. Aside from previous pre-op

advice...post-op I would suggest to stay as mobile as you can and to drink a lot

of fluids. For the first five days I was awake MAYBE 6 hours a day if I was

lucky. That was the Lortabs though...feel better now that I am on Percocet.

Shandi

[ ] hand surgeon appt.

>

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I have an appt. with my hand surgeon tomorrow to discuss fusing rt

> wrist and repairing ligament and tendon in left wrist. The

> rheumatologist is quite anxious to put me on Methotrexate, but can't

> until I take care of my wrists.

>

> I have been doing some web searching for RA and was stunned to learn

> that RA can cause AVN (dead bones) which is the reason for the fusion.

> I was also stunned to learn that people with thyroid dysfunction are

> 3 times more likely to get RA. I have thyroid dysfunctionn as well.

> This is all very overwhelming and so much to absorb.

>

> Does the Methotrexate cause additional fatigue? I have so much of it

> already that I can't imagine being on a drug that makes it worse. I'm

> also taking an anti-inflamitory called Relafen. If any of you take

> this, have you noticed any increase in RA pain in areas like feet and

> ankles? When I was first diagnosed, a week ago, I didn't have pain in

> my feet and ankles, but since being on this Relafen I have had pretty

> bad painns in my feet and ankles. Do you think there could be a

> correlation or is this just a coincidence that the pain began near the

> tme I started the relafen?

>

> Thanks for listening and I look forward to your toughts on these

> questions.

>

> All my best,

> Les

>

>

>

>

>

>

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,

Others have commented on pre-arranging meals while you recoup. I feel

the need to double check on personal issues. I make sure my toe nails

are cut short (ingrown removed) and as an older woman, I check the

longer facial hairs. These are items I just cannot find myself asking

others to help me with.

I also made a simple sun dress (just elastic in the top and snaps on my

straps). I also found long skirts with elastic waist, a size or two

larger than I normally wear allows me to dress easier with one hand.

My family and myself will find something to eat.

I wish you much luck and keep that chin up.

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Hi everyone,

I wanted to let you know that my hand surgeon has given me the all clear to

go ahead and start my treatment for RA. I see the doctor Thursday and will

begin Methotrexate. I don't know if she plans to put me on any other

suppliment meds with it, but will let you know. My hand surgeon told me that

she sees no reason to withhold RA treatment and have my wrist fusion right

away. She suggested that I give the RA meds some time to work and see how my

pain level is after that period of time and if I still have severe wrist pain,

we can get the wrist fused at that time even though I'm on Methotrexate. She

says that she isn't worried about infection from surgery with the MTX meds, so

I guess we move forward and wait and see.

As far as the left wrist, she says I have tendonitis and no surgery for it.

I know there is other problems with the left wrist but she forgot to get into

it. I can manage waiting to treat the left wrist for quite a while, it doesn't

hurt nearly as bad as the right wrist.

Thanks for all the well wishes and I'll keep you posted.

Les

<leslielick777@...> wrote:

--- Thanks for the advice. I'll get to the store before surgery and

get all the necessary things done before my life takes a huge dive. I

hadn't thought about presigning checks, that's a great idea, thanks.

That's good to know about ht tendon pain. Hopefully I will be able to

tolerate the pain meds. I have typically had a rough go of it for the

first 48 hours with nausea from the anesthesia, so hopefully they will

give me something to help with that.

I'm sorry you are in so much pain. I hope you get some relief soon.

Let me know how it goes for you and not to be selfish, but I'd like to

know what to expect. The wrist fusion is a difficult procedure, and

then with the other wrist and the torn ligament and tendon repair, it

will be a bit dicy figuring out how to manage things with two bum

hands. However, I have 2 bum hands now, so it can't bethat bad,

right!! :o) thanks again,

Take care,

Les

>

> Don't underesti,ate the recovery time of your surgery. Make sure

everything you need to do for a month is done. If you are left handed

make sure to presign checks, pay bills, freezer some dinners etc. The

tendon realignment will knock you on your butt! I am 6 days post op

with my MCP synovectomies and tendon realignments and boy does it

hurt. My whole hand is swollen and bruised, as are my fingers. From

sleeping and sitting I got a bladder infection and sciatica...ugh.

>

> [ ] hand surgeon appt.

>

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I have an appt. with my hand surgeon tomorrow to discuss fusing rt

> wrist and repairing ligament and tendon in left wrist. The

> rheumatologist is quite anxious to put me on Methotrexate, but can't

> until I take care of my wrists.

>

> I have been doing some web searching for RA and was stunned to learn

> that RA can cause AVN (dead bones) which is the reason for the fusion.

> I was also stunned to learn that people with thyroid dysfunction are

> 3 times more likely to get RA. I have thyroid dysfunctionn as well.

> This is all very overwhelming and so much to absorb.

>

> Does the Methotrexate cause additional fatigue? I have so much of it

> already that I can't imagine being on a drug that makes it worse. I'm

> also taking an anti-inflamitory called Relafen. If any of you take

> this, have you noticed any increase in RA pain in areas like feet and

> ankles? When I was first diagnosed, a week ago, I didn't have pain in

> my feet and ankles, but since being on this Relafen I have had pretty

> bad painns in my feet and ankles. Do you think there could be a

> correlation or is this just a coincidence that the pain began near the

> tme I started the relafen?

>

> Thanks for listening and I look forward to your toughts on these

> questions.

>

> All my best,

> Les

>

>

>

>

>

>

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