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I think Brownies CAN be great...but it depends so much on the group

and the group leaders and how they manage what is going on. I was in

Girl Scouts and HATED it because I didn't like a few of the other

girls who were just mean, and the leaders didn't do anything (one of

them was the lead mean girl's mom, so that is probably why). My sister

was in a different troop since she was younger, and she loved it!

Different girls, different group leadership style, different

experience! I ended up going on camping trips and stuff with their

troop because it was so much more fun and friendly.

Can you sit in on one of their troop meetings and see what you can

see? Even if the other girls know better than to pick on Hannah while

you are there, you should be able to see how the leaders manage things

and get a better idea of what the dynamics are like. You might also be

able to get a clearer idea of what Hannah means about the other girls

bullying her...it might be something she sees as bullying but the

leaders (or maybe even the other girls) don't see as mean. Either way,

it needs to be addressed, but it's easier if you see it yourself.

Amnesty

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> Hannah (8) is currently enrolled in Brownies. 2 girls that are there

> are very mean to her and bully her frequently (as they do at school).

> The leaders keep assuring me that they don't " pull that " while at

> Brownies, but Hannah says they do. It's hard to say if she can

> separate school time from Brownies but...

>

> Do y'all think that a structured group like Brownies (with about 13

> other shrieking little girls) is a good setting? She has very poor

> social skills and before knowing her dx, I thought it might be a good

> thing to get her involved in something.

>

> Thanks.

>

>

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Have you gone to a meeting with her? Maybe that would help, and don't go and be

all mothering, go to " help " out that way the others may not pay attn enough to

know you are her mom and see then what is going, if possible.

sajustmyself wrote:

Hi everyone,

Hannah (8) is currently enrolled in Brownies. 2 girls that are there

are very mean to her and bully her frequently (as they do at school).

The leaders keep assuring me that they don't " pull that " while at

Brownies, but Hannah says they do. It's hard to say if she can

separate school time from Brownies but...

Do y'all think that a structured group like Brownies (with about 13

other shrieking little girls) is a good setting? She has very poor

social skills and before knowing her dx, I thought it might be a good

thing to get her involved in something.

Thanks.

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Hi, I would reccomend becoming a GS adult. You can register

with your local council for about $10. They will require a

background check for you to work with a troop, but then you can be a

troop parent. This is much different from troop leader. You do not

have the responsibility of leading the troop, but you are allowed to

be involved in all troop activities and meetings. You may be asked

to " help out " sometimes, such as plan a craft or snack. This way,

you can keep an eye on the activities at the Brownie meetings, as

well as be there for a purpose other than just as your daughter's

mom. Most troops(per council rules) insist that any parent attending

more than one meeting in a row be registered(for safety reasons, with

the background check).

It is not easy all the time to see your child teased, and I'm

just now venturing (back) into the world of girl-scouting, but this

would be my reccomendation.

Also, know that your daughter can be a brownie without having a

troop. If things don't work out with the troop, then she can still

register with your local council, complete try-its(and later badges)

with your help, and go to any girl scout activities as an individual

without a troop.

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> Hannah (8) is currently enrolled in Brownies. 2 girls that are

there

> are very mean to her and bully her frequently (as they do at

school).

> The leaders keep assuring me that they don't " pull that " while at

> Brownies, but Hannah says they do. It's hard to say if she can

> separate school time from Brownies but...

>

> Do y'all think that a structured group like Brownies (with about 13

> other shrieking little girls) is a good setting? She has very poor

> social skills and before knowing her dx, I thought it might be a

good

> thing to get her involved in something.

>

> Thanks.

>

>

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Hi ,

I have a daughter in Girls Scouts. I am in the same

boat as you. I joined as a co-leader not thinking

about the hurdles we will face. We have only had one

meeting and I am wondering if it was the best

decision. She was overwhelmed by all the girls, the

craft, and the snack that she couldn't have. I am

going to have to prepare something ahead of time just

for her. It is helpful that I am there though. You

could ask the leaders if you could hang out an assist,

or get trained as a co-leader. There isn't much to do.

I want my daughter to have the socialization too

expecially since she is homeschooled. We have our

second meeting next week. I will let you know how it

goes.

Rebekah

--- Amy Wittman wrote:

> Hi ,

> I have a little different take. I am all for

> putting autistic children in with the mainstream...I

> think that it helps both sides understand that

> everyone is not alike. Because these children are

> very intelligent, they surely know what is going on,

> good or bad. Have you tried art, music, or horse

> therapy? I teach and play the piano...she might like

> the one on one attention. Who doesn't like

> music...maybe a fun dance class that everyone is

> jumping around in and exercising too would be fun.

> Horse therapy helps with their sensories. balance,

> and calms the spirit. They say that dogs and horses

> KNOW that these children are special...they start to

> form a very special connection. To me, brownies

> seems to be more of a structured environment...maybe

> she needs a little more relaxed enviroment,

> especially if it could just be you and her sharing

> some special time together (horses). I bought my

> daughter a mini trampoline. I was told that they

> need this " deep joint therapy " . Don't know

> much about it, but she enjoys it. No one likes to

> be picked on...if she truly is being picked on..she

> may give up before even starting.

> Amy

>

> sajustmyself wrote:

> Hi everyone,

>

> Hannah (8) is currently enrolled in Brownies. 2

> girls that are there

> are very mean to her and bully her frequently (as

> they do at school).

> The leaders keep assuring me that they don't " pull

> that " while at

> Brownies, but Hannah says they do. It's hard to say

> if she can

> separate school time from Brownies but...

>

> Do y'all think that a structured group like Brownies

> (with about 13

> other shrieking little girls) is a good setting? She

> has very poor

> social skills and before knowing her dx, I thought

> it might be a good

> thing to get her involved in something.

>

> Thanks.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Chef Amy

> Reel Thyme Cooking, LLC

>

>

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Thanks for all of the suggestions. The problem with me attending

meetings is that Hannah has a meltdown whenever I'm around. I was

her Daisy leader in Kindergarten and gave the troop over to another

parent because it wasn't fair to all the girls when Hannah had

meltdowns. It also makes it hard to even volunteer on field trips.

Do many kids do better if you're not there?

> >

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > Hannah (8) is currently enrolled in Brownies. 2 girls that are

> there

> > are very mean to her and bully her frequently (as they do at

> school).

> > The leaders keep assuring me that they don't " pull that " while at

> > Brownies, but Hannah says they do. It's hard to say if she can

> > separate school time from Brownies but...

> >

> > Do y'all think that a structured group like Brownies (with about

13

> > other shrieking little girls) is a good setting? She has very

poor

> > social skills and before knowing her dx, I thought it might be a

> good

> > thing to get her involved in something.

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

> >

>

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I am thinking about horse therapy. She already has a mini tramp.

The horse therapy works for part of the year, but being in Wisconsin,

weather takes some time away from that. :(

I am also putting her into a gymnastics class for differently abled

kids. Hopefully that will help too.

The whole Brownie thing is hard because the same girls that bully her

at school (and this I am sure of because my older daughter has

witnessed it on many occasions herself) are also in Brownies.

Hmmmm, what to do, what to do!

> Hi everyone,

>

> Hannah (8) is currently enrolled in Brownies. 2 girls that are

there

> are very mean to her and bully her frequently (as they do at

school).

> The leaders keep assuring me that they don't " pull that " while at

> Brownies, but Hannah says they do. It's hard to say if she can

> separate school time from Brownies but...

>

> Do y'all think that a structured group like Brownies (with about 13

> other shrieking little girls) is a good setting? She has very poor

> social skills and before knowing her dx, I thought it might be a

good

> thing to get her involved in something.

>

> Thanks.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Chef Amy

> Reel Thyme Cooking, LLC

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile.

Try it now.

>

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I am thinking about horse therapy. She already has a mini tramp.

The horse therapy works for part of the year, but being in Wisconsin,

weather takes some time away from that. :(

I am also putting her into a gymnastics class for differently abled

kids. Hopefully that will help too.

The whole Brownie thing is hard because the same girls that bully her

at school (and this I am sure of because my older daughter has

witnessed it on many occasions herself) are also in Brownies.

Hmmmm, what to do, what to do!

> Hi everyone,

>

> Hannah (8) is currently enrolled in Brownies. 2 girls that are

there

> are very mean to her and bully her frequently (as they do at

school).

> The leaders keep assuring me that they don't " pull that " while at

> Brownies, but Hannah says they do. It's hard to say if she can

> separate school time from Brownies but...

>

> Do y'all think that a structured group like Brownies (with about 13

> other shrieking little girls) is a good setting? She has very poor

> social skills and before knowing her dx, I thought it might be a

good

> thing to get her involved in something.

>

> Thanks.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Chef Amy

> Reel Thyme Cooking, LLC

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile.

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Sorry to hear that she is unhappy at Brownies.

Yes, my daughter acts different when I am around and there is a group, like

if I visit her at school - she becomes needy, clingy etc.

I would sneak in and try to see what is going on in there.

Also, girls are can be viscous. I remember all the teasing was always

started by girls. I don't know why but it's other girls that I fear the

most teasing my child.

Have you thought about talking to the group without your daughter there?

Remind them that they are girl scouts and are supposed to live up to it.

> I am thinking about horse therapy. She already has a mini tramp.

> The horse therapy works for part of the year, but being in Wisconsin,

> weather takes some time away from that. :(

>

> I am also putting her into a gymnastics class for differently abled

> kids. Hopefully that will help too.

>

> The whole Brownie thing is hard because the same girls that bully her

> at school (and this I am sure of because my older daughter has

> witnessed it on many occasions herself) are also in Brownies.

>

> Hmmmm, what to do, what to do!

>

>

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > Hannah (8) is currently enrolled in Brownies. 2 girls that are

> there

> > are very mean to her and bully her frequently (as they do at

> school).

> > The leaders keep assuring me that they don't " pull that " while at

> > Brownies, but Hannah says they do. It's hard to say if she can

> > separate school time from Brownies but...

> >

> > Do y'all think that a structured group like Brownies (with about 13

> > other shrieking little girls) is a good setting? She has very poor

> > social skills and before knowing her dx, I thought it might be a

> good

> > thing to get her involved in something.

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Chef Amy

> > Reel Thyme Cooking, LLC

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile.

> Try it now.

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Sorry to hear that she is unhappy at Brownies.

Yes, my daughter acts different when I am around and there is a group, like

if I visit her at school - she becomes needy, clingy etc.

I would sneak in and try to see what is going on in there.

Also, girls are can be viscous. I remember all the teasing was always

started by girls. I don't know why but it's other girls that I fear the

most teasing my child.

Have you thought about talking to the group without your daughter there?

Remind them that they are girl scouts and are supposed to live up to it.

> I am thinking about horse therapy. She already has a mini tramp.

> The horse therapy works for part of the year, but being in Wisconsin,

> weather takes some time away from that. :(

>

> I am also putting her into a gymnastics class for differently abled

> kids. Hopefully that will help too.

>

> The whole Brownie thing is hard because the same girls that bully her

> at school (and this I am sure of because my older daughter has

> witnessed it on many occasions herself) are also in Brownies.

>

> Hmmmm, what to do, what to do!

>

>

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > Hannah (8) is currently enrolled in Brownies. 2 girls that are

> there

> > are very mean to her and bully her frequently (as they do at

> school).

> > The leaders keep assuring me that they don't " pull that " while at

> > Brownies, but Hannah says they do. It's hard to say if she can

> > separate school time from Brownies but...

> >

> > Do y'all think that a structured group like Brownies (with about 13

> > other shrieking little girls) is a good setting? She has very poor

> > social skills and before knowing her dx, I thought it might be a

> good

> > thing to get her involved in something.

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Chef Amy

> > Reel Thyme Cooking, LLC

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile.

> Try it now.

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Hmm...is there a way you could just listen in without being in the

room with her? Or get another family member or friend to go in and

observe? A lot of kids have more tantrums for their parents (including

my own son, who is not autistic).

Amnesty

> > >

> > > Hi everyone,

> > >

> > > Hannah (8) is currently enrolled in Brownies. 2 girls that are

> > there

> > > are very mean to her and bully her frequently (as they do at

> > school).

> > > The leaders keep assuring me that they don't " pull that " while at

> > > Brownies, but Hannah says they do. It's hard to say if she can

> > > separate school time from Brownies but...

> > >

> > > Do y'all think that a structured group like Brownies (with about

> 13

> > > other shrieking little girls) is a good setting? She has very

> poor

> > > social skills and before knowing her dx, I thought it might be a

> > good

> > > thing to get her involved in something.

> > >

> > > Thanks.

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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Hmm...is there a way you could just listen in without being in the

room with her? Or get another family member or friend to go in and

observe? A lot of kids have more tantrums for their parents (including

my own son, who is not autistic).

Amnesty

> > >

> > > Hi everyone,

> > >

> > > Hannah (8) is currently enrolled in Brownies. 2 girls that are

> > there

> > > are very mean to her and bully her frequently (as they do at

> > school).

> > > The leaders keep assuring me that they don't " pull that " while at

> > > Brownies, but Hannah says they do. It's hard to say if she can

> > > separate school time from Brownies but...

> > >

> > > Do y'all think that a structured group like Brownies (with about

> 13

> > > other shrieking little girls) is a good setting? She has very

> poor

> > > social skills and before knowing her dx, I thought it might be a

> > good

> > > thing to get her involved in something.

> > >

> > > Thanks.

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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Hi

My daughter is 7 1/2 ( will turn 8 in Feb), and this is her 2nd year in

brownies. I say yes, it's a good thing to get her involved with a special group

of girls like brownies. I've always wondered if gets picked on at the

meetings, but according to the group leaders, they say she fits right in and

since there are no boys around to egg the girls on. They say that they all get

along nicely.

It's hard for us to know, as parents, what our kids can handle.If Hannah flat

out refuses to go to brownie meetings because of these girls, you'll know that

they really are teasing her during brownie time . loves to go to

meetings, and feels that she belongs to a group, and is very happy that it is a

place where NO BOYS ARE ALLOWED! LOL

I think it's good for our daughters' social skills, as they see how typical

children act (whether that is good or not I dont know) LOL-sometimes I am GLAD

my daughter doesn't act like these other girls, as they can be very mean

sometimes.

Good luck to you

sajustmyself wrote:

Hi everyone,

Hannah (8) is currently enrolled in Brownies. 2 girls that are there

are very mean to her and bully her frequently (as they do at school).

The leaders keep assuring me that they don't " pull that " while at

Brownies, but Hannah says they do. It's hard to say if she can

separate school time from Brownies but...

Do y'all think that a structured group like Brownies (with about 13

other shrieking little girls) is a good setting? She has very poor

social skills and before knowing her dx, I thought it might be a good

thing to get her involved in something.

Thanks.

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Hi

My daughter is 7 1/2 ( will turn 8 in Feb), and this is her 2nd year in

brownies. I say yes, it's a good thing to get her involved with a special group

of girls like brownies. I've always wondered if gets picked on at the

meetings, but according to the group leaders, they say she fits right in and

since there are no boys around to egg the girls on. They say that they all get

along nicely.

It's hard for us to know, as parents, what our kids can handle.If Hannah flat

out refuses to go to brownie meetings because of these girls, you'll know that

they really are teasing her during brownie time . loves to go to

meetings, and feels that she belongs to a group, and is very happy that it is a

place where NO BOYS ARE ALLOWED! LOL

I think it's good for our daughters' social skills, as they see how typical

children act (whether that is good or not I dont know) LOL-sometimes I am GLAD

my daughter doesn't act like these other girls, as they can be very mean

sometimes.

Good luck to you

sajustmyself wrote:

Hi everyone,

Hannah (8) is currently enrolled in Brownies. 2 girls that are there

are very mean to her and bully her frequently (as they do at school).

The leaders keep assuring me that they don't " pull that " while at

Brownies, but Hannah says they do. It's hard to say if she can

separate school time from Brownies but...

Do y'all think that a structured group like Brownies (with about 13

other shrieking little girls) is a good setting? She has very poor

social skills and before knowing her dx, I thought it might be a good

thing to get her involved in something.

Thanks.

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Hey, I just wanted to make sure you're not counting out brownies b/c

it will not work with this one troop. Call the council and find out

if there is a troop in your area that is not connected to a specific

school. Ours meets only once a month plus activities, and that may

work better than an after-shcool weekly thing, and take care of

removing the school bullies from her social activity. Some people

think that moving your child away from bullies is coddling, but I

think it's the smartest thing a parent can do sometimes, in light of

all the recent violence by kids that were bullied their whole school

careers.

> The whole Brownie thing is hard because the same girls that bully

her

> at school (and this I am sure of because my older daughter has

> witnessed it on many occasions herself) are also in Brownies.

>

> Hmmmm, what to do, what to do!

> >

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Hey, I just wanted to make sure you're not counting out brownies b/c

it will not work with this one troop. Call the council and find out

if there is a troop in your area that is not connected to a specific

school. Ours meets only once a month plus activities, and that may

work better than an after-shcool weekly thing, and take care of

removing the school bullies from her social activity. Some people

think that moving your child away from bullies is coddling, but I

think it's the smartest thing a parent can do sometimes, in light of

all the recent violence by kids that were bullied their whole school

careers.

> The whole Brownie thing is hard because the same girls that bully

her

> at school (and this I am sure of because my older daughter has

> witnessed it on many occasions herself) are also in Brownies.

>

> Hmmmm, what to do, what to do!

> >

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I wish Alissa would be interested in something like that.

She is a homebody making daddy and myself her fav playmates.

She does like other kids- really enjoys the parks where kids are

and going to Burger King playplace- although she is so tall soon she

won't get to play anylonger. She is big for her age- but I cannot see

her at a brownie meeting. She really doesn't have tantrums- only on

us when she gets frustrated- but she does yell a bit at times and

would distract others I think. She is learning to bowl & likes mini

golf- we are trying to get her exposed to as many things as she will

go with to see which ones she enjoys the most.

She is not much on going without mom OR dad....and is happy at home

playing computer games- or board games ( a new this year thing)

with us- she also loves her Nintendo Gamecube- but we have to watch

how much she plays she can overdo it if we let her. I try and keep

her talking & asking for things as well as answering me. I know she

HAS to get tired of mom questioning her about everything even

through her favorite movies.

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I've been reading over the digest, and don't want to give specific

advise to anyone, but do want to say that sometimes as parents its very

hard to know what to do.

People often say, 'get your child out more!' but they don't really know

our kids.

We feel obligated to try, but its hard to make a judgement call since

often those in charge in social groups, schools, or whatever... they

fail to give us the truth about how things *really* are, and say what

they think they should, or what will keep the peace for their world!

We really need to listen to our kids, or with a case like my child is

nonverbal, look for cues in their mood and behavior, as to how things

really are, and don't be afraid to change to best serve the child.

A three year old who isn't potty trained is not that unusual,

goodness... my child was 6 before she was potty trained, and years

beyond that is still mastering understanding cues for #2...

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Hi --

Have you talked to the leaders about Hannah's diagnosis? Have they

talked to the girls that Hannah has some difficulties and needs help?

That's worked very well for my son. A lot of kids look out for him and

help him out -- he's in 6th grade now and they still really look out for

him.

-- Cassie

sajustmyself wrote:

> Hi everyone,

>

> Hannah (8) is currently enrolled in Brownies. 2 girls that are there

> are very mean to her and bully her frequently (as they do at school).

> The leaders keep assuring me that they don't " pull that " while at

> Brownies, but Hannah says they do. It's hard to say if she can

> separate school time from Brownies but...

>

> Do y'all think that a structured group like Brownies (with about 13

> other shrieking little girls) is a good setting? She has very poor

> social skills and before knowing her dx, I thought it might be a good

> thing to get her involved in something.

>

> Thanks.

>

>

>

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Before you say anything to anyone about Hannah's diagnosis, ask her

first! She may not want anyone to single her out at this point, and it

should be her decision on when to tell and how much to tell. From

reading what you have said about her so far, it sounds like she is

definitely capable of being part of that discussion.

Amnesty

>

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > Hannah (8) is currently enrolled in Brownies. 2 girls that are there

> > are very mean to her and bully her frequently (as they do at school).

> > The leaders keep assuring me that they don't " pull that " while at

> > Brownies, but Hannah says they do. It's hard to say if she can

> > separate school time from Brownies but...

> >

> > Do y'all think that a structured group like Brownies (with about 13

> > other shrieking little girls) is a good setting? She has very poor

> > social skills and before knowing her dx, I thought it might be a good

> > thing to get her involved in something.

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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In a message dated 1/4/2008 12:15:33 A.M. Central Standard Time,

amnestyb@... writes:

Honesty is the best policy. She already knows she's different. Having

a name for WHY she is different can really help a lot of kids. As long

as you present it as " this is why you feel different " and not " this is

what is wrong with you " (which I know you wouldn't do anyway).

There are a lot of books about autism and even books written by

authors with autism...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hi guys, sorry to have been out of touch. We had quite the holiday, Dad in

the ICU, hubby down with flu. All is well now, but I couldn't believe all

the emails when I got on today! LOL

Anyway, this strand reminds me of when I had " the talk " with Allie. I

didn't make a deal of it and sit her down and get all serious.

I bought " My Friend With Autism " , and after it arrived I slipped it into the

stack of storybooks we were reading together one day. We hadn't gotten half

way through when Allie leaped off the couch and swung around to face me and

exclaimed, " That's me! " " I'm just like that! " " Do I have Autism? " and when

I smiled and said " Yes " she just beamed. She felt SO validated, so happy to

have an explanation about why she felt so different than others about

everyday things. Then there was this outpouring of questions, <grin> like a

flood!

I think she stimmed for a good 10 minutes in excitement! Then we finished

reading the book together and talked and talked that day. It's one of my

favorite memories. :-)

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In a message dated 1/4/2008 12:15:33 A.M. Central Standard Time,

amnestyb@... writes:

Honesty is the best policy. She already knows she's different. Having

a name for WHY she is different can really help a lot of kids. As long

as you present it as " this is why you feel different " and not " this is

what is wrong with you " (which I know you wouldn't do anyway).

There are a lot of books about autism and even books written by

authors with autism...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hi guys, sorry to have been out of touch. We had quite the holiday, Dad in

the ICU, hubby down with flu. All is well now, but I couldn't believe all

the emails when I got on today! LOL

Anyway, this strand reminds me of when I had " the talk " with Allie. I

didn't make a deal of it and sit her down and get all serious.

I bought " My Friend With Autism " , and after it arrived I slipped it into the

stack of storybooks we were reading together one day. We hadn't gotten half

way through when Allie leaped off the couch and swung around to face me and

exclaimed, " That's me! " " I'm just like that! " " Do I have Autism? " and when

I smiled and said " Yes " she just beamed. She felt SO validated, so happy to

have an explanation about why she felt so different than others about

everyday things. Then there was this outpouring of questions, <grin> like a

flood!

I think she stimmed for a good 10 minutes in excitement! Then we finished

reading the book together and talked and talked that day. It's one of my

favorite memories. :-)

Sandi

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To be honest, I haven't even talked with Hannah about her diagnosis.

I know that she knows she's different. I've just always told her

things like some people act differently than others because our

brains all work in different ways. Sometimes when we talk about it,

(her being different) she becomes agitated, angry and aggressive.

She gets called stupid and weird from other kids (most are girls)

pretty much everyday at school, she overhears Abby's friends (that's

her older step sister that's at the same school - this is her last

year there) asking Abby why Hannah acts the way she does or saying

things like is she retarded or something? I've talked to the leaders

regarding her dx but I really don't know if they believe me. Anyone

who watched the Dr. Phil show on Autism, at the very beginning, the

little boy who had meltdowns and screamed he hated his mom, was going

to kill her, etc., well that's how Hannah is at home. Other people

don't experience that side of her; they see the quiet, withdrawn,

quiet little girl who requires a lot of help with school, projects,

etc. They are the kind of people who always tell me she did great.

When they had a field trip to a rock climbing place, they said she

didn't cry or anything. I had a friend who also has a daughter in

the same troop tell me that Hannah had quite a meltdown. By the way,

that friend's daughter used to be wonderful friends with Hannah (at

least as much as Hannah can be a friend since she's not very social

most of the time) but because of peer pressure (in 2nd grade??)

doesn't really want to be her friend anymore. So after all of this,

I just don't know. By the way, how in the world do I explain what's

different about her? That just scares the bejebers (lol) out of me!!!

> >

> > > Hi everyone,

> > >

> > > Hannah (8) is currently enrolled in Brownies. 2 girls that are

there

> > > are very mean to her and bully her frequently (as they do at

school).

> > > The leaders keep assuring me that they don't " pull that " while

at

> > > Brownies, but Hannah says they do. It's hard to say if she can

> > > separate school time from Brownies but...

> > >

> > > Do y'all think that a structured group like Brownies (with

about 13

> > > other shrieking little girls) is a good setting? She has very

poor

> > > social skills and before knowing her dx, I thought it might be

a good

> > > thing to get her involved in something.

> > >

> > > Thanks.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I could try. But when you get a chance to read my last reply, I

really don't feel that her leaders believe she's autistic. They seem

like the type that think of autism as Rainman only. When I did talk

to them it just like, " oh really?, I wouldn't have ever thought that

it was that " in that kind of condescending voice; again, I am

sensitive so maybe I read it wrong but...

> > > >

> > > > Hi everyone,

> > > >

> > > > Hannah (8) is currently enrolled in Brownies. 2 girls that

are

> > > there

> > > > are very mean to her and bully her frequently (as they do at

> > > school).

> > > > The leaders keep assuring me that they don't " pull that "

while at

> > > > Brownies, but Hannah says they do. It's hard to say if she

can

> > > > separate school time from Brownies but...

> > > >

> > > > Do y'all think that a structured group like Brownies (with

about

> > 13

> > > > other shrieking little girls) is a good setting? She has

very

> > poor

> > > > social skills and before knowing her dx, I thought it might

be a

> > > good

> > > > thing to get her involved in something.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks.

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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How old is Alissa? She's sounds a lot like Hannah. Whenever Hannah

is at the park in or one of the fast food playlands (yuk, I hate

those germ infested places!), she'll get asked by another child to

play and her automatic response is almost always " no thank you " . At

least she's polite. but if she gets overstimulated or someone gets

too close, she lashes out physically and verbally. All this time

I've been posting, I failed to mention that Hannah's dad and I are

not married (never were-long story) and he takes her every other

weekend and sometimes has dinner with her once a week or so. I can't

imagine that helps any of this at all. She is a major Mommy's girl

and everyone knows that!!

>

>

> I wish Alissa would be interested in something like that.

>

> She is a homebody making daddy and myself her fav playmates.

>

> She does like other kids- really enjoys the parks where kids are

>

> and going to Burger King playplace- although she is so tall soon she

>

> won't get to play anylonger. She is big for her age- but I cannot

see

>

> her at a brownie meeting. She really doesn't have tantrums- only on

>

> us when she gets frustrated- but she does yell a bit at times and

>

> would distract others I think. She is learning to bowl & likes mini

>

> golf- we are trying to get her exposed to as many things as she will

>

> go with to see which ones she enjoys the most.

>

> She is not much on going without mom OR dad....and is happy at home

>

> playing computer games- or board games ( a new this year thing)

>

> with us- she also loves her Nintendo Gamecube- but we have to watch

>

> how much she plays she can overdo it if we let her. I try and keep

>

> her talking & asking for things as well as answering me. I know she

>

> HAS to get tired of mom questioning her about everything even

>

> through her favorite movies.

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Amy,

Was this a question for me about Hannah? She is verbal. severe

speech and language problems but still very able to tell me about the

bullying.

I've been reading

over the digest, and don't want to give specific

> advise to anyone, but do want to say that sometimes as parents its

very

> hard to know what to do.

>

> People often say, 'get your child out more!' but they don't really

know

> our kids.

>

> We feel obligated to try, but its hard to make a judgement call

since

> often those in charge in social groups, schools, or whatever...

they

> fail to give us the truth about how things *really* are, and say

what

> they think they should, or what will keep the peace for their world!

>

> We really need to listen to our kids, or with a case like my child

is

> nonverbal, look for cues in their mood and behavior, as to how

things

> really are, and don't be afraid to change to best serve the child.

>

> A three year old who isn't potty trained is not that unusual,

> goodness... my child was 6 before she was potty trained, and years

> beyond that is still mastering understanding cues for #2...

>

>

>

>

>

>

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