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Me personally have moderate to severe pain on a daily basis. Only when i

medicate myself with prednisone and darvocet do i have no pain for a few

hrs...then it comes roaring back twice as bad since i over do it when i do feel

good. Viscious cycle that i'seem to be stuck in. Anyone else have this happen?

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> You know, every one of us is going through tough times. And, short

of a miraculous healing from the Almighty or a revolutionary

breakthrough in science, it's not like the road ahead is looking better

for any of us. We all live with pain on a daily basis

I have to disagree with your comments above. Many of us with RA are

doing very well, thanks to interventions of all sorts. I don't live

with pain on a daily basis. Not any more.

Sierra

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I've always wondered about the ones that report no pain when dealing with

RA. Of the ones I know personally, all have moderate to severe pain

constantly. So, a question for the group. How many, or better yet, what

percentage of us have no pain, moderate pain, or severe pain? I would think

that those of us with aggressive RA would have more pain than the others. I

know mine brings tears to my eyes.

Dennis in Eastexas

" It's not Rocket Surgery "

[ ] I have to disagree

>

>>

>> You know, every one of us is going through tough times. And, short

> of a miraculous healing from the Almighty or a revolutionary

> breakthrough in science, it's not like the road ahead is looking better

> for any of us. We all live with pain on a daily basis

>

>

> I have to disagree with your comments above. Many of us with RA are

> doing very well, thanks to interventions of all sorts. I don't live

> with pain on a daily basis. Not any more.

>

> Sierra

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I'm one of the lucky ones, too, Sierra. Enbrel is doing the trick for

me. I wish that everyone here could find relief from their pain.

Sue

On Thursday, January 11, 2007, at 08:33 PM, snowdrift52003 wrote:

>

> I have to disagree with your comments above. Many of us with RA are

> doing very well, thanks to interventions of all sorts. I don't live

> with pain on a daily basis. Not any more.

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I have very little pain from my RA, although it was really aggressive

in the beginning and brought tears to my eyes. My RF factor and SED

rate were very high. I think that aggressive treatment from the

beginning is responsible. I had a great rheumy who kept working until

he got the ideal treatment for me. Each of us is different and respond

to medications so differently, so the rheumy has to experiment and keep

trying different treatments until hopefully one works. Once you have a

lot of joint damage, that probably causes a lot of pain. I think that

the window of opportunity at the beginning of the disease should be

pounced upon to hopefully prevent joint damage.

Sue

On Thursday, January 11, 2007, at 10:32 PM, betnden@... wrote:

> I've always wondered about the ones that report no pain when dealing

> with

> RA. Of the ones I know personally, all have moderate to severe pain

> constantly. So, a question for the group. How many, or better yet, what

> percentage of us have no pain, moderate pain, or severe pain? I would

> think

> that those of us with aggressive RA would have more pain than the

> others. I

> know mine brings tears to my eyes.

>

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In regards to pain and RA mine ranges from moderate on a good day to extreme on

my bad days. As of yet I have found little that relieves the pain on bad days. I

also find it hard to believe that someone with RA would have little to no pain,

unless their pain threshold is superhuman, lol.

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I live with moderate to severe pain every day. When I was on the

Enbrel, Plaquinal, MTX, and increasingly higher doses of Prednisone,

I had some control. The pain didn't go completely away, but it made

the severe pain a little more tolerable. Now that I'm off all the

RA meds, my docs have had to increase the amount of pain meds I take

on a daily basis. I don't like that one bit. The mother of my

sister-in-law has RA. She sees me with one or more joimts braced,

or walking with a crutch, or not participating in family get

togethers, she asks me what my problem is. She says that she has RA

and only takes low doses of MTX and OTC NSAIDs. She has a few

nodules on her hands that come and go. I just look at her square in

the face and tell her to count her blessings. I'm thrilled that she

is not having the difficulties that I have. Things could be much

worse and there is a very good chance that things will get worse.

Another friend that I worked with also has RA. He had to slow down

his work schedule because his pain, stiffness, and fatigue had been

getting out of control. It's too bad that we can't let other people

actually " feel " what we go through. To not sympathize, but

to " empathize " . Sometimes it seems that those with low pain RA can

be just as rude or ignorant as those who don't have it. I don't

mean to upset or place blame on anyone. Please don't take this post

that way. It is not my intention to do so. I guess it's just a

sore spot with me that all of us have had to deal with in our

everyday life. It's that " you don't look sick " senario. Gentle

hugs and prayers to all,,,,,,Marina

>

> I've always wondered about the ones that report no pain when

dealing with

> RA. Of the ones I know personally, all have moderate to severe

pain

> constantly. So, a question for the group. How many, or better yet,

what

> percentage of us have no pain, moderate pain, or severe pain? I

would think

> that those of us with aggressive RA would have more pain than the

others. I

> know mine brings tears to my eyes.

>

> Dennis in Eastexas

> " It's not Rocket Surgery "

>

>>

> > --- In , Pou <jenncrew@>

wrote:

> >>

> >> You know, every one of us is going through tough times. And,

short

> > of a miraculous healing from the Almighty or a revolutionary

> > breakthrough in science, it's not like the road ahead is looking

better

> > for any of us. We all live with pain on a daily basis

> >

> >

> > I have to disagree with your comments above. Many of us with RA

are

> > doing very well, thanks to interventions of all sorts. I don't

live

> > with pain on a daily basis. Not any more.

> >

> > Sierra

>

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I have very little pain on a daily basis. I was diagnosed very quickly and

only had severe pain for about 4 weeks. I had x-rays of all of my joints with

my first round of tests and they showed no joint damage at all yet. I wonder

if that is the difference, the fact that I received treatment so fast. At my

doctors appointment last week my doctor thought I might be in remission and

aside from my monthly blood work, I do not need to go back for three months. I

have to say, I have had 3 children without any pain meds and I would do it 10

more times before I would want to feel that horrible joint pain again. I am

so sorry that some of you have to deal with it every day. You are my heroes!

Dianne

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I have moderate to severe RA. I have very little pain to moderate pain.

However I am one of these people with an extremely high pain threshold. So I

rarely take any pain meds. If I do I am in bed!! Today is one of those days!!

For the past two months my right hip has been bothering me. Went to see the

new rheummy and she blew me off and told me I did not have RA but I did have

bad bursitis. Did labs and scheduled me to return in a month to see the

Nurse Practitioner for an injection into my hip. I left with a script for

Lodine XL and that's it!!

When I went for my next appnt, it was a mess..spent 2 hrs in financial

office cause this medical center sucks and can't seem to bill right. Then they

said I do not have ins....which I do...my plan changed the first of the year.

So after all this I missed my appnt!!! So I rescheduled and it will be

another month!

In the meantime my right knee started swelling and huring three days ago.

The knee calmed down today...but now the right ankle, left elbow and left

wrist are starting to act up!! I would call the rheummy.....but hate to waste

gas driving there to get nothing but BS from these people.

Toni

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I have what I consider severe pain from RA. For me that means that without

medication I can barely walk, HOWEVER, with the help of Prednisone you would

never know that I even have RA. That makes me one of the lucky ones most of the

time. If I go below 5 mg of Pred then the pain comes back with a vengence.

People at work, and even my friends, have no idea what I go through when they

try lowering the dose, they just think I'm having 'a bad day'. Today I'll call

my rheumy and 'tell' him that I'm going back up on my dosage AGAIN. It really

ticks me off too, I was down to 1 mg. for about the 5th time. There is another

issue with the Pred, if I go to 15 mg even for a short period of time then my

right hand breaks out with terrible eczema. which takes weeks to go away. That

is surprising since originally I was on the pred for the eczema; but a

dermatologist told me that often happens with prolonged use. Until I see my

rheumy at the end of Feb I'll stay on 5 mg. ; maybe he will increase my Imuran

or Plaqenil. I don't know which one does what, but I believe he wanted me on

the Imuran to get off the pred for good, so maybe that dosage needs to be

increased. I sure would like to get off Prednisone permanently, but not enough

to suffer with such awful pain.

Patsy

El Mirage, AZ

DX 2005 Stage 1 PBC

AIH/SLE/RA/COPD

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I was diagnosed with RA about 6 months ago, but had it undiagnosed for about

2 years (if not more). I have joint damage to my fifth toes thus far. I am

off prednisone, take a NSAID for pain/inflammation and 15 mg. mtx weekly.

I went from not being able to open jars, get out of a car or my bed, have

sex with my husband to being able to do ALL of these things with only

MINIMUM difficulty. I am even back to doing yoga and aerobic exercise. I

do have significant fatigue and headache for a day or so after taking the

mtx, however.

I am just getting back into my fitness routine and I fatigue easily and need

to take breaks, but my fitness is IMPROVING every day...

For me, I treat the RA AGGRESIVELY but then I put the blinders on and keep

doing my absolute best with the cards I am dealt. I stay positive and make

gratitude lists daily. I also listen to meditiations on mp3 that focus on

positive thinking. I keep my mind out of the past and the future and focus

on the present.

Just my take at the moment.... :)

Annie

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Sierra:

That's wonderful to hear! I hope I get to that place soon. So far, mine has

just gotten worse. I was diagnosed about 18 months ago. Guess it just takes

longer than I had hoped to find the right combo of meds that work. Thanks for

your encouragement and hope.

in Texas

snowdrift52003 <snowdrift52003@...> wrote:

>

> You know, every one of us is going through tough times. And, short

of a miraculous healing from the Almighty or a revolutionary

breakthrough in science, it's not like the road ahead is looking better

for any of us. We all live with pain on a daily basis

I have to disagree with your comments above. Many of us with RA are

doing very well, thanks to interventions of all sorts. I don't live

with pain on a daily basis. Not any more.

Sierra

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Dennis,

You are RIGHT ON there. Like I told Sierra, I was only diagnosed about 18

months ago. I've been on Plaquenil for almost a year and MTX for more than 6

months. (I tried NSAID's first with minimal success). I STILL suffer

inflammation constantly and flare ups that bring me to tears at least once every

week or two. My RA is progressively getting worse. The Plaquenil seemed to

make things better for a little while then I kind of started regressing with my

symptoms, then was put on MTX, symptoms seemed to ease up for awhile, then

started regressing again.

I still have not asked for any pain meds from my rheumy because I want to stay

off of heavy stuff as long as I possibly can. I work full-time in a law office,

have four kids who all have extra-curricular activities AND my entire family is

very active in our church, so I just use ice packs, take OTC pain meds and pray

through my tears for the pain to go away.

in Texas

betnden@... wrote:

I've always wondered about the ones that report no pain when dealing

with

RA. Of the ones I know personally, all have moderate to severe pain

constantly. So, a question for the group. How many, or better yet, what

percentage of us have no pain, moderate pain, or severe pain? I would think

that those of us with aggressive RA would have more pain than the others. I

know mine brings tears to my eyes.

Dennis in Eastexas

" It's not Rocket Surgery "

[ ] I have to disagree

>

>>

>> You know, every one of us is going through tough times. And, short

> of a miraculous healing from the Almighty or a revolutionary

> breakthrough in science, it's not like the road ahead is looking better

> for any of us. We all live with pain on a daily basis

>

>

> I have to disagree with your comments above. Many of us with RA are

> doing very well, thanks to interventions of all sorts. I don't live

> with pain on a daily basis. Not any more.

>

> Sierra

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I was diagnosed in Oct., started with 3 MTX pills a week and am up to 8. My

hands are better, and most of the time I am in no pain or barely any pain. I

don't worry about long term as I too am living day to day as much in the now as

I can. I read as much as possible about treatment to be sure I'm doing all I can

for my part and I follow the drs. instructions.He said I have severe aggressive

form, so I am making the most out of what I have with as much travel and fun as

I can afford to do. I only know certainly that now I'm pretty much OK. I have a

nodule on my elbow and some on my knuckles but not obvious.

Annie Rose <annierose77@...> wrote:

I was diagnosed with RA about 6 months ago, but had it undiagnosed for

about

2 years (if not more). I have joint damage to my fifth toes thus far. I am

off prednisone, take a NSAID for pain/inflammation and 15 mg. mtx weekly.

I went from not being able to open jars, get out of a car or my bed, have

sex with my husband to being able to do ALL of these things with only

MINIMUM difficulty. I am even back to doing yoga and aerobic exercise. I

do have significant fatigue and headache for a day or so after taking the

mtx, however.

I am just getting back into my fitness routine and I fatigue easily and need

to take breaks, but my fitness is IMPROVING every day...

For me, I treat the RA AGGRESIVELY but then I put the blinders on and keep

doing my absolute best with the cards I am dealt. I stay positive and make

gratitude lists daily. I also listen to meditiations on mp3 that focus on

positive thinking. I keep my mind out of the past and the future and focus

on the present.

Just my take at the moment.... :)

Annie

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Marina, I'm sorry that you're suffering such pain, and it does make

one feel worse when a friend or relative doesn't really get it and

thinks you should feel less pain than you actually feel. You may have

already mentioned this in a previous post, but why did you have to go

off the prednisone, embrel, MTX, etc.? Were you having bad side

effects?

Take care -- I hope today is a good day.

-- In , " marina_troi " <marina_troi@...>

wrote:

> I live with moderate to severe pain every day. When I was on the

> Enbrel, Plaquinal, MTX, and increasingly higher doses of Prednisone,

I had some control.

> The mother of my

> sister-in-law has RA. She sees me with one or more joimts braced,

> or walking with a crutch, or not participating in family get

> togethers, she asks me what my problem is.

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Hi all! I'm in moderate to severe pain everyday. I never start a day with less

than moderate pain and am usually in worse pain by the end of the day. I can't

tolerate steroids higher 10mg, which only take the edge off, so until I find a

drug that works, I'm afraid constant pain will be by companion.

Lori

http://users.adelphia.net/~tmihalko/Stitching/index.html

[ ] I have to disagree

>

>>

>> You know, every one of us is going through tough times. And, short

> of a miraculous healing from the Almighty or a revolutionary

> breakthrough in science, it's not like the road ahead is looking better

> for any of us. We all live with pain on a daily basis

>

>

> I have to disagree with your comments above. Many of us with RA are

> doing very well, thanks to interventions of all sorts. I don't live

> with pain on a daily basis. Not any more.

>

> Sierra

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Hi everyone,

I just wanted to add my 2 cents to this discussion.

: I disagree as well, but I do understand your pain. My road ahead is

filled with unknowns and questions. I feel blessed every day that my pain is

controlled. I have more discomfort and fatigue than pain these days, thanks to

my meds and a wonderful hubby who does alot for me.

Dennis: Having no pain or moderate pain does not mean we do not have severe

RA. My rheumy describes mine as severe RA in medication-induced remission, but

at risk for medication tolerance or side effects. Recently my hubby has forced

me to go to the dentist since I had not gone in 6 years. (due to money & fear of

pain). Today I got 2 fillings and, due to my increased medication tolerance,

needed 4 shots of Novacaine. Also, apparently 3 of my 4 wisdom teeth came in

without me knowing it -- the 4th one was hell recently. My dentist is amazed

that I didn't drag myself in before -- I just attributed the pain to TMJ/

rheumatoid nodules. Boy was I wrong!

Take care,

Steph in VA (going to take a nap now)

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Dianne:

I had been complaining about severe fatigue for 2 years. Doc said I was

depressed, but the depression meds didn't help much. I finally just got off of

them. During this time, I also had alot of what I thought were just muscle

aches and pains. A general feeling of not being well. Then, we built a house

and moved in 2004. That very weekend, the joint pain localized and revealed

itself with a nasty bite. Guess that was my " onset " . I thought I just overdid

it with the moving and all the stress. I also had a horrible work environment

during that same time, which was another terrible stresser. Anyway, the joint

pain and fatigue kept recurring and getting worse. I started trying to find

answers. I wasn't diagnosed with RA until around mid-2005. I went straight to

a rheumy then, started with NSAID's, moved to Plaquenil after 3-6 mos. then

added MTX about 6-7 mos. ago. Joint damage was already visible in my hand

x-rays 6 months ago. There are times when my shoulder

joints are so bad, I can't even lift my arms. Most days, the pain is a

nuisance but bearable, meaning I can still function. Other times, I'm in bed

all day and the pain becomes so excruciating that I break down and cry like a

baby. I hurt so bad all over, that even my skin becomes supersensitive and I

can't stand to be touched.

I read in a book on RA that there are different levels. Level One is those

who show initial symptoms, are diagnosed and treated...then go into remission

and NEVER suffer symptoms again. Level TWO are those who go in and out of

remission at different times. They may be in remission for 2-5 years, then go

through another spurt of symptoms. Then there are Level THREE people. These

folks never see a remission. They live with a very aggessive form of RA where

they stay inflamed almost constantly and suffer a great deal of pain. Level

THREE's have the greatest chance of deformity and other complications from RA.

Guess that would explain why some people disagree with the outlook ahead I

expressed in an earlier e-mail. They are not facing the same outcome I am.

But, Sierra's e-mail did give me hope that other meds I might try could put me

in remission. I certainly hope I find one that does it soon.

in Texas

Dianneis30@... wrote:

I have very little pain on a daily basis. I was diagnosed very quickly

and

only had severe pain for about 4 weeks. I had x-rays of all of my joints with

my first round of tests and they showed no joint damage at all yet. I wonder

if that is the difference, the fact that I received treatment so fast. At my

doctors appointment last week my doctor thought I might be in remission and

aside from my monthly blood work, I do not need to go back for three months. I

have to say, I have had 3 children without any pain meds and I would do it 10

more times before I would want to feel that horrible joint pain again. I am

so sorry that some of you have to deal with it every day. You are my heroes!

Dianne

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Steph:

Glad to hear that you are doing so well. Like I said before, hearing from

those who are doing well with their meds gives me hope for the future.

in Texas

DeNicola- <stephdenicola@...> wrote:

Hi everyone,

I just wanted to add my 2 cents to this discussion.

: I disagree as well, but I do understand your pain. My road ahead is

filled with unknowns and questions. I feel blessed every day that my pain is

controlled. I have more discomfort and fatigue than pain these days, thanks to

my meds and a wonderful hubby who does alot for me.

Dennis: Having no pain or moderate pain does not mean we do not have severe RA.

My rheumy describes mine as severe RA in medication-induced remission, but at

risk for medication tolerance or side effects. Recently my hubby has forced me

to go to the dentist since I had not gone in 6 years. (due to money & fear of

pain). Today I got 2 fillings and, due to my increased medication tolerance,

needed 4 shots of Novacaine. Also, apparently 3 of my 4 wisdom teeth came in

without me knowing it -- the 4th one was hell recently. My dentist is amazed

that I didn't drag myself in before -- I just attributed the pain to TMJ/

rheumatoid nodules. Boy was I wrong!

Take care,

Steph in VA (going to take a nap now)

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Marina

I have had extreme pain and mild to moderate pain in RA. But I told my

Mom once that I just felt like crying like a baby when it was extreme. One

day I couldn't even sit still in church and had to leave and wait for my

family in

the car.

And you are right while we may not look sick we may feel like death warmed

over. I am happy that there are people out there who can control their RA with

meds and get on with their lives but sometimes the drugs aren't the miracle

cure they claim to be on the commercials and that can be misleading

to the public.

One time I was at a reception hall and my sister said, so and so has RA and

they do fine and have a great outlook. She introduced me and the lady went on

and on about exercise and how it is all a state of mind and that you can't let

it get you

down. Now my sister hears this

and she probably compares me to this other lady and it just broke my heart

and made me feel like the pain it was all in my head. Maybe I am just too

emotional

but it hurt my feelings instead of making me feel better.

Joy

marina_troi <marina_troi@...> wrote:

I live with moderate to severe pain every day. When I was on the

Enbrel, Plaquinal, MTX, and increasingly higher doses of Prednisone,

I had some control. The pain didn't go completely away, but it made

the severe pain a little more tolerable. Now that I'm off all the

RA meds, my docs have had to increase the amount of pain meds I take

on a daily basis. I don't like that one bit. The mother of my

sister-in-law has RA. She sees me with one or more joimts braced,

or walking with a crutch, or not participating in family get

togethers, she asks me what my problem is. She says that she has RA

and only takes low doses of MTX and OTC NSAIDs. She has a few

nodules on her hands that come and go. I just look at her square in

the face and tell her to count her blessings. I'm thrilled that she

is not having the difficulties that I have. Things could be much

worse and there is a very good chance that things will get worse.

Another friend that I worked with also has RA. He had to slow down

his work schedule because his pain, stiffness, and fatigue had been

getting out of control. It's too bad that we can't let other people

actually " feel " what we go through. To not sympathize, but

to " empathize " . Sometimes it seems that those with low pain RA can

be just as rude or ignorant as those who don't have it. I don't

mean to upset or place blame on anyone. Please don't take this post

that way. It is not my intention to do so. I guess it's just a

sore spot with me that all of us have had to deal with in our

everyday life. It's that " you don't look sick " senario. Gentle

hugs and prayers to all,,,,,,Marina

>

> I've always wondered about the ones that report no pain when

dealing with

> RA. Of the ones I know personally, all have moderate to severe

pain

> constantly. So, a question for the group. How many, or better yet,

what

> percentage of us have no pain, moderate pain, or severe pain? I

would think

> that those of us with aggressive RA would have more pain than the

others. I

> know mine brings tears to my eyes.

>

> Dennis in Eastexas

> " It's not Rocket Surgery "

>

>>

> > --- In , Pou <jenncrew@>

wrote:

> >>

> >> You know, every one of us is going through tough times. And,

short

> > of a miraculous healing from the Almighty or a revolutionary

> > breakthrough in science, it's not like the road ahead is looking

better

> > for any of us. We all live with pain on a daily basis

> >

> >

> > I have to disagree with your comments above. Many of us with RA

are

> > doing very well, thanks to interventions of all sorts. I don't

live

> > with pain on a daily basis. Not any more.

> >

> > Sierra

>

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> My pain is very, very variable. Some days, I really have almost

none (although I do have a lot of stiffness in the morning and after

I sit or lie down for any period of time). Some days, the pain is

so bad that it's hard to convince myself to move a muscle. I know

some of the things that trigger it, but sometimes it's just a

mystery. I also have fibro, and I think that really affects how I

experience the pain.

>

> > >>

> > >> You know, every one of us is going through tough times. And,

> short

> > > of a miraculous healing from the Almighty or a revolutionary

> > > breakthrough in science, it's not like the road ahead is

looking

> better

> > > for any of us. We all live with pain on a daily basis

> > >

> > >

> > > I have to disagree with your comments above. Many of us with

RA

> are

> > > doing very well, thanks to interventions of all sorts. I don't

> live

> > > with pain on a daily basis. Not any more.

> > >

> > > Sierra

> >

>

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Marina,

I've experienced the same kind of prejudices also so I know how you

feel. People just don't understand...even my grown daughters get

upset with me if I call them and tell them I can't participate in some

activity because I'm having a BAD day. They don't get it that just

because I take all the RA drugs that I should be pain free and I

should feel GREAT all the time and I don't. IN fact, lately there's

been a lot more BAD days than there is good ones. That's when I've

had enough and tell my Rheumy that we have to do something different.

Hang in there and here's wishing you a Less pain than normal day!

Lyn

> > >>

> > >> You know, every one of us is going through tough times. And,

> short

> > > of a miraculous healing from the Almighty or a revolutionary

> > > breakthrough in science, it's not like the road ahead is looking

> better

> > > for any of us. We all live with pain on a daily basis

> > >

> > >

> > > I have to disagree with your comments above. Many of us with RA

> are

> > > doing very well, thanks to interventions of all sorts. I don't

> live

> > > with pain on a daily basis. Not any more.

> > >

> > > Sierra

> >

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Joy, you are not being too emotional. It gets to me, as well. My

own family didn't get it until they saw just how sick I was

getting. My dad keeps telling me that it's because of my diet. He

thinks that just because I'm a vegetarian that I get sick all the

time!! Truth is, I've been a vegetarian for nearly 25 years. This

is the sickest I've ever been. He gave me that same song and dance

when I had to have a hysterectomy. The fact that I had

endometriosis, just as my grandmother did at my age, had absolutely

nothing to do with it. His answer to everything is a good steak and

a glass of wine will cure all. Of course, I'm the only one in the

family with an excellent cholesterol level!! LOL Don't ever let

someone think that you are being too emotional or that it's all in

your head. Just reading the posts on this site should show you that

it's not the case at all. When I feel like the world is crashing

down on me and I have no support, I come here and see that I DO have

support. THIS family understands. Take care, Marina

>

> Marina

> I have had extreme pain and mild to moderate pain in RA. But I

told my

> Mom once that I just felt like crying like a baby when it was

extreme. One

> day I couldn't even sit still in church and had to leave and

wait for my family in

> the car.

> And you are right while we may not look sick we may feel like

death warmed

> over. I am happy that there are people out there who can control

their RA with

> meds and get on with their lives but sometimes the drugs aren't

the miracle

> cure they claim to be on the commercials and that can be

misleading

> to the public.

> One time I was at a reception hall and my sister said, so and so

has RA and

> they do fine and have a great outlook. She introduced me and the

lady went on

> and on about exercise and how it is all a state of mind and that

you can't let it get you

> down. Now my sister hears this

> and she probably compares me to this other lady and it just

broke my heart

> and made me feel like the pain it was all in my head. Maybe I am

just too emotional

> but it hurt my feelings instead of making me feel better.

> Joy

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Lyn, To me, the worse of the prejudice comes from family. The one

place you think you would get support, and they let you down. Back

at ya in regards to the hanging in there. This family is a

wonderful cornicopia of support!!........Marina

>

> Marina,

> I've experienced the same kind of prejudices also so I know how you

> feel. People just don't understand...even my grown daughters get

> upset with me if I call them and tell them I can't participate in

some

> activity because I'm having a BAD day. They don't get it that just

> because I take all the RA drugs that I should be pain free and I

> should feel GREAT all the time and I don't. IN fact, lately

there's

> been a lot more BAD days than there is good ones. That's when I've

> had enough and tell my Rheumy that we have to do something

different.

>

> Hang in there and here's wishing you a Less pain than normal day!

> Lyn

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I suspect that you'll get a somewhat skewed response from this

group... I suspect that people whose RA is really COMPLETELY under

control (which my rheumatologist STILL tells me is possible) don't

need to bother with support groups like this. I do know 3 people

personally who have RA, take Plaquenil daily, and feel just fine and

dandy. I wish it was so simple for the rest of us!<g>

> >>

> >> You know, every one of us is going through tough times. And,

short

> > of a miraculous healing from the Almighty or a revolutionary

> > breakthrough in science, it's not like the road ahead is looking

better

> > for any of us. We all live with pain on a daily basis

> >

> >

> > I have to disagree with your comments above. Many of us with RA

are

> > doing very well, thanks to interventions of all sorts. I don't

live

> > with pain on a daily basis. Not any more.

> >

> > Sierra

>

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