Guest guest Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 I finally bit the bullet and dropped down another mg in prednisone yesterday. (my doc had said to when I got over my last flare for a week or two) It's so hard to make the decision to make yourself feel miserable, even if you think it will be over in a couple of weeks. (or at least until the next pred reduction) Already by today, my wrists, shoulders, knees, hips and ankles are killing me. My hands are so weak and stiff that I had to use two hands to get the key out of the ignition when I picked my son up this afternoon, and I had to have him work the gear shift, because I couldn't operate the button that you push in to move it. I hate this. Sorry to gripe, but figured you guys would understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 I am so sorry you are feeling so bad. I hope tomorrow you will feel alittle better. Marsha Randall <krandall@...> wrote: I finally bit the bullet and dropped down another mg in prednisone yesterday. (my doc had said to when I got over my last flare for a week or two) It's so hard to make the decision to make yourself feel miserable, even if you think it will be over in a couple of weeks. (or at least until the next pred reduction) Already by today, my wrists, shoulders, knees, hips and ankles are killing me. My hands are so weak and stiff that I had to use two hands to get the key out of the ignition when I picked my son up this afternoon, and I had to have him work the gear shift, because I couldn't operate the button that you push in to move it. I hate this. Sorry to gripe, but figured you guys would understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 Dear , I take prednisone also, along with MXT,Enbrel, Mobic, Folic acid, Vicodin, and prilosec. Since I started the Enbrel in October I have been able to ween myself down on the prednisone to 4 mg a day, once i hit 6 mg and started decreasing further down the pain picked back up. I am debating myself on if I should just keep it at 6mg. I've been on it for over 6 years, The prednisone will eat up your bones. It also has other side effects, weight gain, stomach problems, fatigue, these are just to name a few. I have an Uncle who has suffered with severe RA all his life as well. And the prednisone has not been to his favor. I myself will continue to ween myself off it. Regardless of the pain, I'm looking for other alternatives. I'm only 47 years old and already feel 20 years older than that. Just remember your not alone. This group has been a great support to me. Jean Dandcmayer@... wrote: Dear , Please excuse any mistakes, I am recovering from my second cataract surgery. Thiese were encapsulated cataracts which are due primarily to taking prednisone. I tried to stop, got down to 5mg and couldn't go any further and feel alive, just a tangle of pain. My Dr. advised that 5 mg is a very low dosage and if that was all I could do, then it would have to be. I have asthma, so I have used prednisone all of my life, just not on a daily basis until I got RA. It is a lifestyle choice, and at 56 I decided that I would take the risk, because I had already done much of the damage and the quality of life is more important to me. Hope this helps. Carol m. in CA @>~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 Dear : I'm in the process of tapering my prednisone, as well. I went from 10 mg. to 5 mg., stayed on 5 mg. for 3 months; cut the dose in 1/2 at 2.5 mg. and just went down to 2 mg. My rheumatologist has told me that I may rebound with pain and if it's bad, to taper more slowly. She believes that it should take me 3 weeks to taper from 2 mg. to nothing. However, I'm determined more out of vanity than anything else. Three months of prednisone has given me the characteristic " moon face " and I can't stand how I look. Let's gripe together.... Paige > I finally bit the bullet and dropped down another mg in prednisone > yesterday. (my doc had said to when I got over my last flare for a week > or two) It's so hard to make the decision to make yourself feel > miserable, even if you think it will be over in a couple of weeks. (or > at least until the next pred reduction) > > Already by today, my wrists, shoulders, knees, hips and ankles are > killing me. My hands are so weak and stiff that I had to use two hands > to get the key out of the ignition when I picked my son up this > afternoon, and I had to have him work the gear shift, because I > couldn't operate the button that you push in to move it. > > I hate this. Sorry to gripe, but figured you guys would understand. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 Well, if I got to the point that I was long-term miserable at a lower prednisone dose, I would have to make a decision. But at this point, each time I've dropped down on the prednisone, I've had a couple of miserable weeks until my body adjusted, and then I've been back to status quo. So, I think at this point, it's just something I need to grit my teeth and get through. > > Dear , > > Please excuse any mistakes, I am recovering from my second cataract surgery. > Thiese were encapsulated cataracts which are due primarily to taking > prednisone. I tried to stop, got down to 5mg and couldn't go any further and feel > alive, just a tangle of pain. My Dr. advised that 5 mg is a very low dosage > and if that was all I could do, then it would have to be. I have asthma, so > I have used prednisone all of my life, just not on a daily basis until I got > RA. It is a lifestyle choice, and at 56 I decided that I would take the > risk, because I had already done much of the damage and the quality of life is > more important to me. > > Hope this helps. > > Carol m. in CA > > @>~~~~ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 Thanks, Marsha. Not yet, but hopefully it won't be TOO long. > I finally bit the bullet and dropped down another mg in prednisone > yesterday. (my doc had said to when I got over my last flare for a week > or two) It's so hard to make the decision to make yourself feel > miserable, even if you think it will be over in a couple of weeks. (or > at least until the next pred reduction) > > Already by today, my wrists, shoulders, knees, hips and ankles are > killing me. My hands are so weak and stiff that I had to use two hands > to get the key out of the ignition when I picked my son up this > afternoon, and I had to have him work the gear shift, because I > couldn't operate the button that you push in to move it. > > I hate this. Sorry to gripe, but figured you guys would understand. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 Hi Thanks. I'm down to 7mg at this point. From 15mg on down, each step down has been bad for a couple of weeks. I'm taking Humira now, (along with Mtx & Voltaren) and it has definitely helped more than anything else. (other than prednisone, but I've known since the beginning that the prednisone was a short-term fix) I _really_ want to get off the prednisone completely, but there doesn't seem to be any easy way to do it. I almost wish you could just stop, cold turkey, and get it over with once and for all.<g> (don't worry, I know you can't do that) > Dear , > > Please excuse any mistakes, I am recovering from my second cataract surgery. > Thiese were encapsulated cataracts which are due primarily to taking > prednisone. I tried to stop, got down to 5mg and couldn't go any further and feel > alive, just a tangle of pain. My Dr. advised that 5 mg is a very low dosage > and if that was all I could do, then it would have to be. I have asthma, so > I have used prednisone all of my life, just not on a daily basis until I got > RA. It is a lifestyle choice, and at 56 I decided that I would take the > risk, because I had already done much of the damage and the quality of life is > more important to me. > > Hope this helps. > > Carol m. in CA > > @>~~~~ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 Oh, I've had to taper much more slowly than that, I'm afraid. From 12mg, I haven't been able to tolerate a drop of more than 1mg at a time, and they've been having me go down about 1 mg per month. I was in the middle of a flare the last time I was supposed to drop down, so the doc told me to hold off. But even if I can stay on schedule, it will be another 7 months before I'm off the stupid stuff. > > I finally bit the bullet and dropped down another mg in prednisone > > yesterday. (my doc had said to when I got over my last flare for a week > > or two) It's so hard to make the decision to make yourself feel > > miserable, even if you think it will be over in a couple of weeks. (or > > at least until the next pred reduction) > > > > Already by today, my wrists, shoulders, knees, hips and ankles are > > killing me. My hands are so weak and stiff that I had to use two hands > > to get the key out of the ignition when I picked my son up this > > afternoon, and I had to have him work the gear shift, because I > > couldn't operate the button that you push in to move it. > > > > I hate this. Sorry to gripe, but figured you guys would understand. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 I started weaning prednisone and then I had to go off humira and cut my arava dose in half because of repeated sinus infections and asthma. I have moon face so bad it makes me feel terrible just looking in the mirror but I have to use something. Once I got the humira out of my system though my wheezing got a lot better. Joy Paige <paigec38@...> wrote: Dear : I'm in the process of tapering my prednisone, as well. I went from 10 mg. to 5 mg., stayed on 5 mg. for 3 months; cut the dose in 1/2 at 2.5 mg. and just went down to 2 mg. My rheumatologist has told me that I may rebound with pain and if it's bad, to taper more slowly. She believes that it should take me 3 weeks to taper from 2 mg. to nothing. However, I'm determined more out of vanity than anything else. Three months of prednisone has given me the characteristic " moon face " and I can't stand how I look. Let's gripe together.... Paige > I finally bit the bullet and dropped down another mg in prednisone > yesterday. (my doc had said to when I got over my last flare for a week > or two) It's so hard to make the decision to make yourself feel > miserable, even if you think it will be over in a couple of weeks. (or > at least until the next pred reduction) > > Already by today, my wrists, shoulders, knees, hips and ankles are > killing me. My hands are so weak and stiff that I had to use two hands > to get the key out of the ignition when I picked my son up this > afternoon, and I had to have him work the gear shift, because I > couldn't operate the button that you push in to move it. > > I hate this. Sorry to gripe, but figured you guys would understand. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 , I applaud you for your efforts to wean off Prednisone. As I've said before, the doctor doesn't have to live in your body, so he/she doesn't know what you're going through. You must insist on making your own schedule. Tell your doctor that you will try to conform to orders, but YOU will be the one deciding on exactly when to move down on dosage. After all, the doctor works for you. Dennis in Eastexas " It's not Rocket Surgery " [ ] Re: Dropped my prednisone and in bad shape again > Oh, I've had to taper much more slowly than that, I'm afraid. From > 12mg, I haven't been able to tolerate a drop of more than 1mg at a > time, and they've been having me go down about 1 mg per month. I was > in the middle of a flare the last time I was supposed to drop down, > so the doc told me to hold off. But even if I can stay on schedule, > it will be another 7 months before I'm off the stupid stuff. > > > > >> >> Dear : >> >> I'm in the process of tapering my prednisone, as well. I went from > 10 mg. to 5 mg., stayed >> on 5 mg. for 3 months; cut the dose in 1/2 at 2.5 mg. and just went > down to 2 mg. My >> rheumatologist has told me that I may rebound with pain and if it's > bad, to taper more >> slowly. She believes that it should take me 3 weeks to taper from > 2 mg. to nothing. >> However, I'm determined more out of vanity than anything else. > Three months of >> prednisone has given me the characteristic " moon face " and I can't > stand how I look. >> >> Let's gripe together.... >> >> Paige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 : Yes, we do understand. That is what Pred does when we decrease it - here comes the pain again. I know how important it is for you that you are able to get off of Pred, but maybe you dropped again just a little too soon after your last major flare? I really feel for you, my friend. This RA stuff really sucks sometimes. Use your rice socks, ice packs, heating pad, whatever works, and know that you are in my prayers that you will be up and out riding Oliver again real soon. Take care - and hang in there - Kathe in CA --- Randall <krandall@...> wrote: > I finally bit the bullet and dropped down another mg > in prednisone > yesterday. (my doc had said to when I got over my > last flare for a week > or two) It's so hard to make the decision to make > yourself feel > miserable, even if you think it will be over in a > couple of weeks. (or > at least until the next pred reduction) > > Already by today, my wrists, shoulders, knees, hips > and ankles are > killing me. My hands are so weak and stiff that I > had to use two hands > to get the key out of the ignition when I picked my > son up this > afternoon, and I had to have him work the gear > shift, because I > couldn't operate the button that you push in to move > it. > > I hate this. Sorry to gripe, but figured you guys > would understand. > > > > " Until he extends the circle of his compassion to all living things, man will not himself find peace. " — Albert Schweitzer, French Nobel Peace Prize-winning mission doctor and theologian (1875-1965) ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Never miss an email again! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search./toolbar/features/mail/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 : Yes, we do understand. That is what Pred does when we decrease it - here comes the pain again. I know how important it is for you that you are able to get off of Pred, but maybe you dropped again just a little too soon after your last major flare? I really feel for you, my friend. This RA stuff really sucks sometimes. Use your rice socks, ice packs, heating pad, whatever works, and know that you are in my prayers that you will be up and out riding Oliver again real soon. Take care - and hang in there - Kathe in CA --- Randall <krandall@...> wrote: > I finally bit the bullet and dropped down another mg > in prednisone > yesterday. (my doc had said to when I got over my > last flare for a week > or two) It's so hard to make the decision to make > yourself feel > miserable, even if you think it will be over in a > couple of weeks. (or > at least until the next pred reduction) > > Already by today, my wrists, shoulders, knees, hips > and ankles are > killing me. My hands are so weak and stiff that I > had to use two hands > to get the key out of the ignition when I picked my > son up this > afternoon, and I had to have him work the gear > shift, because I > couldn't operate the button that you push in to move > it. > > I hate this. Sorry to gripe, but figured you guys > would understand. > > > > " Until he extends the circle of his compassion to all living things, man will not himself find peace. " — Albert Schweitzer, French Nobel Peace Prize-winning mission doctor and theologian (1875-1965) ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile./mail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 Fortunately, at least so far, I haven't had any problem with infections on Humira. (or Enbrel before it) Hope you can get yours under control soon so you can get back on better drugs than the pred! > > I finally bit the bullet and dropped down another mg in prednisone > > yesterday. (my doc had said to when I got over my last flare for a week > > or two) It's so hard to make the decision to make yourself feel > > miserable, even if you think it will be over in a couple of weeks. (or > > at least until the next pred reduction) > > > > Already by today, my wrists, shoulders, knees, hips and ankles are > > killing me. My hands are so weak and stiff that I had to use two hands > > to get the key out of the ignition when I picked my son up this > > afternoon, and I had to have him work the gear shift, because I > > couldn't operate the button that you push in to move it. > > > > I hate this. Sorry to gripe, but figured you guys would understand. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 Hi Kathe, Thanks for the pep talk, I need it!<g> It was MUCH warmer here today, and I really wanted to ride, but I was already hurting all over, and was afraid I'd just make things worse. So I went to church and then lazed around the house the rest of the day. I haven't ridden since the middle of last week, and I miss my boy! I wrote a long response to your earlier post to me, but I think it went " poof " somewhere in , since I never saw it posted. Did you get it? If not, I'll try to write you an update another time. I hope Shekar is continuing to do well after his colic... that is so scary, even when it turns out to be minor after the fact! I hope you had a great ride with your friend, and the horses weren't TOO frisky in your <ahem> " cool " California weather!<g> > > > I finally bit the bullet and dropped down another mg > > in prednisone > > yesterday. (my doc had said to when I got over my > > last flare for a week > > or two) It's so hard to make the decision to make > > yourself feel > > miserable, even if you think it will be over in a > > couple of weeks. (or > > at least until the next pred reduction) > > > > Already by today, my wrists, shoulders, knees, hips > > and ankles are > > killing me. My hands are so weak and stiff that I > > had to use two hands > > to get the key out of the ignition when I picked my > > son up this > > afternoon, and I had to have him work the gear > > shift, because I > > couldn't operate the button that you push in to move > > it. > > > > I hate this. Sorry to gripe, but figured you guys > > would understand. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Until he extends the circle of his compassion to all living things, man will not himself find peace. " > — Albert Schweitzer, French Nobel Peace Prize-winning mission doctor and theologian (1875-1965) > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > Never miss an email again! > Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. > http://tools.search./toolbar/features/mail/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 Hi : Yes, my friend and I had a great ride! The horses were a bit on the frisky side, having not been ridden in a while, but it was all good. Shekar did a couple of his little buck ups, and then we cruised on fast (he single foots great!) for about two hours. The time flew! I felt so wonderful getting to ride again - you know the feeling - great therapy - until I get off lol. Ouch my aching hips and knees! Anyway, will be keeping my fingers crossed that you are feeling more able to get out and about soon, and back with your Oliver. I never did get that post you mentioned - dang ! Take care - Kathe --- Randall <krandall@...> wrote: > Hi Kathe, > > Thanks for the pep talk, I need it!<g> It was MUCH > warmer here > today, and I really wanted to ride, but I was > already hurting all > over, and was afraid I'd just make things worse. So > I went to church > and then lazed around the house the rest of the day. > I haven't > ridden since the middle of last week, and I miss my > boy! > > I wrote a long response to your earlier post to me, > but I think it > went " poof " somewhere in , since I never saw it > posted. Did you > get it? If not, I'll try to write you an update > another time. I > hope Shekar is continuing to do well after his > colic... that is so > scary, even when it turns out to be minor after the > fact! I hope you > had a great ride with your friend, and the horses > weren't TOO frisky > in your <ahem> " cool " California weather!<g> > > > > > > > > > I finally bit the bullet and dropped down > another mg > > > in prednisone > > > yesterday. (my doc had said to when I got over > my > > > last flare for a week > > > or two) It's so hard to make the decision to > make > > > yourself feel > > > miserable, even if you think it will be over in > a > > > couple of weeks. (or > > > at least until the next pred reduction) > > > > > > Already by today, my wrists, shoulders, knees, > hips > > > and ankles are > > > killing me. My hands are so weak and stiff that > I > > > had to use two hands > > > to get the key out of the ignition when I picked > my > > > son up this > > > afternoon, and I had to have him work the gear > > > shift, because I > > > couldn't operate the button that you push in to > move > > > it. > > > > > > I hate this. Sorry to gripe, but figured you > guys > > > would understand. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Until he extends the circle of his compassion > to all living > things, man will not himself find peace. " > > — Albert Schweitzer, French Nobel Peace > Prize-winning mission > doctor and theologian (1875-1965) > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > ______________ > > Never miss an email again! > > Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail > arrives. > > > http://tools.search./toolbar/features/mail/ > > > > > " Until he extends the circle of his compassion to all living things, man will not himself find peace. " — Albert Schweitzer, French Nobel Peace Prize-winning mission doctor and theologian (1875-1965) ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Never miss an email again! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search./toolbar/features/mail/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 Thanks Dennis, The doc agrees that I have to do what I can do to wean down. He was actually the one who said first to hold off longer before dropping down because of the flare. I didn't even have to suggest it. We both have the same goal... to get me off it if possible, but he seems to be practical and pragmatic about it as well. > >> > >> Dear : > >> > >> I'm in the process of tapering my prednisone, as well. I went from > > 10 mg. to 5 mg., stayed > >> on 5 mg. for 3 months; cut the dose in 1/2 at 2.5 mg. and just went > > down to 2 mg. My > >> rheumatologist has told me that I may rebound with pain and if it's > > bad, to taper more > >> slowly. She believes that it should take me 3 weeks to taper from > > 2 mg. to nothing. > >> However, I'm determined more out of vanity than anything else. > > Three months of > >> prednisone has given me the characteristic " moon face " and I can't > > stand how I look. > >> > >> Let's gripe together.... > >> > >> Paige > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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