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In a message dated 1/28/2007 2:21:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

pebonejosh@... writes:

Hi everyone, this might not seem to be a big deal to some, but for me it has

come to be a problem. How can you withdraw from not having to shake some

ones hand with out offending them. Some times those nice firm hand shakes put

me

into a lot of pain. I myself don't like to disclose, I'm sorry I don't shake

hands because I have RA. just doesn't seem like the right thing to say. Any

suggestions from the group appreciated.

hi Jean

I have that problem too... i usually wear my wrist supports so they see

them and kind of take it easy... Only a suggestion.

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Hi everyone, this might not seem to be a big deal to some, but for me it has

come to be a problem. How can you withdraw from not having to shake some ones

hand with out offending them. Some times those nice firm hand shakes put me into

a lot of pain. I myself don't like to disclose, I'm sorry I don't shake hands

because I have RA. just doesn't seem like the right thing to say. Any

suggestions from the group appreciated.

Jean

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I wear either hand splints or my support fingerless arthritis gloves, especially

my black ones instead of my flesh colored ones if I am going somewhere where I

think I might be in a situation where ppl might want to shake hands.

If it is reallly unavoidable, I try to offer my hand palm side facing down, or

just offer one finger.

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> In a message dated 1/28/2007 2:21:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> pebonejosh@... writes:

>

> Hi everyone, this might not seem to be a big deal to some, but for me it has

> come to be a problem. How can you withdraw from not having to shake some

> ones hand with out offending them. Some times those nice firm hand shakes put

me

> into a lot of pain. I myself don't like to disclose, I'm sorry I don't shake

> hands because I have RA. just doesn't seem like the right thing to say. Any

> suggestions from the group appreciated.

>

>

>

> hi Jean

> I have that problem too... i usually wear my wrist supports so they see

> them and kind of take it easy... Only a suggestion.

>

>

>

>

>

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If you are female offer the hand palm down. Like if you were expecting

someone to kiss the back of the hand. I generally have no issues with

handshakes. Also when you do shake do not grip back. Do the delicate ladies

handshake....

Toni

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When my hands are bad (like today) I wear hand/wrist braces to church.

(or anywhere else you're likely to have to shake a lot of hands)

People are likely to be much gentler when they see those.

--- In , Nettleton <pebonejosh@...>

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> Hi everyone, this might not seem to be a big deal to some, but for me

it has come to be a problem. How can you withdraw from not having to

shake some ones hand with out offending them. Some times those nice

firm hand shakes put me into a lot of pain. I myself don't like to

disclose, I'm sorry I don't shake hands because I have RA. just doesn't

seem like the right thing to say. Any suggestions from the group

appreciated.

>

> Jean

>

>

>

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I extend my left hand with the comment that I have a problem with my right hand.

Usually they cannot put pressure on the hand as they can with the right hand.

For years I played organ in church and if someone got hold of my hand before the

service it made it very difficult to play. Always being at the organ before

people arrived and leaving last took care of a lot of that. I almost always hand

my hands full, music papers, programs or what ever. At first when I anticipated

a problem I would hold it in my right hand and extend my left. It could clearly

be seen that I had my hands full. Later I developed the left hand maneuver even

when my hands were empty. Church can be a unique situation in that I knew most

of the people and therefore had shook my hand before. Before service I would

sometime add that it made it difficult to play.

The handshake proposed by the doctor seems good to me.

Betty

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Even holding hands can hurt. My hubby and I were walking along and he grabbed

my hand. I felt like it was bruised or something. Kind of sad too have to tell

him

to let go of my hand.

Joy

Larry Holmack <bichondaddy1057@...> wrote:

Hi All....

As most of you know...I am a really big guy...and still...very strong. I always

try to be as gentle as possible when shaking a woman's hand...RA or no RA. Most

men that I know will not take any offense if a woman asks for them to be gentle

or tells them they bruise easily. My wife constantly tells me I have no clue as

to how strong I am, and to be gentle. I really don't even grip another man's

hand very strong either as my grip is so strong...sometimes I have other guys

tell me, " ....that's quite a grip you have! " , and to me, I felt I barely gripped

their hand.

So don't be afraid to tell someone...male or female...that you have sensitive

hands. And to all the guys...be careful when you shake a woman's hands...most of

us are quite a bit stronger and can hurt a woman without even knowing it!!!

Larry Holmack

KarLa Bichon Frise

Houston Texas Bichondaddy1057@...

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LOL, my family is really into hugging and kissing but my hubbys family had

major problems with it. My son used to say, " Are we going to the hugging

grandma's

house.. "

Joy

Jeanine Kinsey <songbirdscout@...> wrote:

I found that if I am flaring and hurting too much for handshakes I just hug

em! Of course that doesn't work in a work environment or with strangers

outside of the church setting, but it sure saves my hands at church! Those

who know me expect hugs, those who don't learn to. :-)

Jeanine

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I've been using the palm down extended hand for a hand shake now for a

while, it's works nicely. My knuckles/fingers are permanently swollen,

so there is no question as to why I extend my hand that way in business

situations. Most people will get the idea and gently grasp your hand.

From a practical standpoint, I do reenaction in a Middle Ages history

group, this is the way I extend my hand if a gentleman were to kiss

it. So for you single ladies out there, you might even find someone

special this way. I did.

Toni wrote:

If you are female offer the hand palm down. Like if you were

expecting someone to kiss the back of the hand.

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Dear Kylag:

I have seen problems when giving minerals long-term. Apparently, whatever

mineral formula I am using, only has some minerals and low or absent of

others, and my children and I eventually get off-balanced.

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> Hi, I temporarily stopped all the supplements that my kids have been

> taking and tried the anti fungal rotation for almost a month, I've

> never seen any regression yet, then I started giving them OLE, I've

> noticed that their visual stimming worsen when I added back Zinc,

They may not tolerate an ingredient of the zinc supplement, or they

may not need zinc. One of my kids needed copper, not zinc.

my

> other son would look at his one hand and shake it, then my other son

> would roll his both hands and stare at it. I noticed that when I

> stopped all the supplements and just did the antifungal they were not

> doing this, not even once, but now when I started adding back the

> supplements it came back,and the first supplement that I added was

> Zinc.

This sounds similar to one of my kids when he was fully zinc loaded.

Giving him more zinc caused hand posturing.

I'm just wondering if this means that they have negative

> reaction to zinc I'm using Now Foods brand, or it's just a die off

> reaction from OLE or could be a yeast issue, because when I haven't

> added OLE and Zinc they were just fine. Thanks in advance.

It might be that the OLE is causing yeast.

Dana

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Thanks again Dana :)

danasview <danasview@...> wrote:

> Hi, I temporarily stopped all the supplements that my kids have been

> taking and tried the anti fungal rotation for almost a month, I've

> never seen any regression yet, then I started giving them OLE, I've

> noticed that their visual stimming worsen when I added back Zinc,

They may not tolerate an ingredient of the zinc supplement, or they

may not need zinc. One of my kids needed copper, not zinc.

my

> other son would look at his one hand and shake it, then my other son

> would roll his both hands and stare at it. I noticed that when I

> stopped all the supplements and just did the antifungal they were not

> doing this, not even once, but now when I started adding back the

> supplements it came back,and the first supplement that I added was

> Zinc.

This sounds similar to one of my kids when he was fully zinc loaded.

Giving him more zinc caused hand posturing.

I'm just wondering if this means that they have negative

> reaction to zinc I'm using Now Foods brand, or it's just a die off

> reaction from OLE or could be a yeast issue, because when I haven't

> added OLE and Zinc they were just fine. Thanks in advance.

It might be that the OLE is causing yeast.

Dana

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