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Hi :

Yes, I think we are all in denial at times - we don't

want RA, we don't want the pain and the fatigue, and

the just not feeling good. But we have it, so we have

to deal with it, and the best way to do that is to

take the proper medications to keep the disease under

control and keep it from progressing and destroying

our joints. I have been on Mtx and Enbrel together

for a little over six months now and this combo is

doing well for me. The pain is not gone, it's always

there, but is much better with these medications. For

the RA, I also take Ultram for pain, and Mobic for

anti-inflammatory. The tops of my feet up into my

ankles is always painful, my wrists, elbows and hands

are painful and stiff. I have OA in my knees. The

thing is to deal with all of it, and get help. I

have, and if things get worse, I will talk with my

doctor, and see what we can do with it. I have

recently had my Mtx upped, and hope that will help.

I also have FM which I developed a few years after my

RA dx. My doctor, a rheumatologist, is also treating

me for that with medications. Please go and see your

doctor if you think that you are developing FM - it is

nothing to play around with. The pain from the FM is,

if you can believe it, even more debilitating that the

RA pain. It is a total body/muscle pain, not just the

joints. I guess for me, everything hurts to a degree,

and there are many here in the group who also have RA

and FM, or lupus and FM, it seems to come along with

these autoimmune diseases somehow. To treat the FM, I

also use the Ultram, as well as muscle relaxants,

nerve medication, and sleep medication. Actually,

more medication than I take for the RA. There is

fatigue in both RA and FM, so I have the double whammy

from that, and am always tired it seems, no matter how

good of sleep I get. I am also on an anti-depressant,

blood pressure meds, and asthma meds. Whew!

Anyway, I digress. The Prednisone and the Lodine are

simply masking the pain of RA, and are doing

absolutely nothing to control or slow down the disease

process which, even if you cannot see it, is causing

damage to your joints, and that cannot be taken back,

cannot be erased, it will always be there. I don't

think that this is the way you want to deal with your

RA. Okay, so Enbrel scares you because a friend had

bad side effects - you might not, and Enbrel has been

a definate plus in my RA treatment. There are other

meds out there, some I have tried, and have not had

good result with, but I do try them. There are other

biologics too. You need to treat the disease process,

not just the pain, okay? Please go to see your

doctor, and discuss getting DMARDs for your RA, and

also discuss the FM symptoms you are having.

I hope this has helped you - you always have our

support and our ears here - best of luck and let us

know how it goes - Kathe in CA

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Kathe

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Welcome , all the information in Kathe's post is exactly what I would

have you. This is a great group and there is a wealth of knowledge shared to us

by a and .

Hugs

June

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From: Kathe Sabetzadeh

Hi :

Yes, I think we are all in denial at times - we don't

want RA, we don't want the pain and the fatigue, and

the just not feeling good. But we have it, so we have

to deal with it, and the best way to do that is to

take the proper medications to keep the disease under

control and keep it from progressing and destroying

our joints. I have been on Mtx and Enbrel together

for a little over six months now and this combo is

doing well for me. The pain is not gone, it's always

there, but is much better with these medications. For

the RA, I also take Ultram for pain, and Mobic for

anti-inflammatory. The tops of my feet up into my

ankles is always painful, my wrists, elbows and hands

are painful and stiff. I have OA in my knees. The

thing is to deal with all of it, and get help. I

have, and if things get worse, I will talk with my

doctor, and see what we can do with it. I have

recently had my Mtx upped, and hope that will help.

I also have FM which I developed a few years after my

RA dx. My doctor, a rheumatologist, is also treating

me for that with medications. Please go and see your

doctor if you think that you are developing FM - it is

nothing to play around with. The pain from the FM is,

if you can believe it, even more debilitating that the

RA pain. It is a total body/muscle pain, not just the

joints. I guess for me, everything hurts to a degree,

and there are many here in the group who also have RA

and FM, or lupus and FM, it seems to come along with

these autoimmune diseases somehow. To treat the FM, I

also use the Ultram, as well as muscle relaxants,

nerve medication, and sleep medication. Actually,

more medication than I take for the RA. There is

fatigue in both RA and FM, so I have the double whammy

from that, and am always tired it seems, no matter how

good of sleep I get. I am also on an anti-depressant,

blood pressure meds, and asthma meds. Whew!

Anyway, I digress. The Prednisone and the Lodine are

simply masking the pain of RA, and are doing

absolutely nothing to control or slow down the disease

process which, even if you cannot see it, is causing

damage to your joints, and that cannot be taken back,

cannot be erased, it will always be there. I don't

think that this is the way you want to deal with your

RA. Okay, so Enbrel scares you because a friend had

bad side effects - you might not, and Enbrel has been

a definate plus in my RA treatment. There are other

meds out there, some I have tried, and have not had

good result with, but I do try them. There are other

biologics too. You need to treat the disease process,

not just the pain, okay? Please go to see your

doctor, and discuss getting DMARDs for your RA, and

also discuss the FM symptoms you are having.

I hope this has helped you - you always have our

support and our ears here - best of luck and let us

know how it goes - Kathe in CA

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Kathe

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I just wanted to say thank you for this post. I also benefited from reading it.

:-)

- In , Kathe Sabetzadeh <lv2ryd@...> wrote:

>

>

> Hi :

>

> Yes, I think we are all in denial at times - we don't

> want RA, we don't want the pain and the fatigue, and

> the just not feeling good. But we have it, so we have

> to deal with it, and the best way to do that is to

> take the proper medications to keep the disease under

> control and keep it from progressing and destroying

> our joints. I have been on Mtx and Enbrel together

> for a little over six months now and this combo is

> doing well for me. The pain is not gone, it's always

> there, but is much better with these medications. For

> the RA, I also take Ultram for pain, and Mobic for

> anti-inflammatory. The tops of my feet up into my

> ankles is always painful, my wrists, elbows and hands

> are painful and stiff. I have OA in my knees. The

> thing is to deal with all of it, and get help. I

> have, and if things get worse, I will talk with my

> doctor, and see what we can do with it. I have

> recently had my Mtx upped, and hope that will help.

>

> I also have FM which I developed a few years after my

> RA dx. My doctor, a rheumatologist, is also treating

> me for that with medications. Please go and see your

> doctor if you think that you are developing FM - it is

> nothing to play around with. The pain from the FM is,

> if you can believe it, even more debilitating that the

> RA pain. It is a total body/muscle pain, not just the

> joints. I guess for me, everything hurts to a degree,

> and there are many here in the group who also have RA

> and FM, or lupus and FM, it seems to come along with

> these autoimmune diseases somehow. To treat the FM, I

> also use the Ultram, as well as muscle relaxants,

> nerve medication, and sleep medication. Actually,

> more medication than I take for the RA. There is

> fatigue in both RA and FM, so I have the double whammy

> from that, and am always tired it seems, no matter how

> good of sleep I get. I am also on an anti-depressant,

> blood pressure meds, and asthma meds. Whew!

>

> Anyway, I digress. The Prednisone and the Lodine are

> simply masking the pain of RA, and are doing

> absolutely nothing to control or slow down the disease

> process which, even if you cannot see it, is causing

> damage to your joints, and that cannot be taken back,

> cannot be erased, it will always be there. I don't

> think that this is the way you want to deal with your

> RA. Okay, so Enbrel scares you because a friend had

> bad side effects - you might not, and Enbrel has been

> a definate plus in my RA treatment. There are other

> meds out there, some I have tried, and have not had

> good result with, but I do try them. There are other

> biologics too. You need to treat the disease process,

> not just the pain, okay? Please go to see your

> doctor, and discuss getting DMARDs for your RA, and

> also discuss the FM symptoms you are having.

>

> I hope this has helped you - you always have our

> support and our ears here - best of luck and let us

> know how it goes - Kathe in CA

>

>

>

>

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>

> >

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> >

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> Kathe

>

> " To ride a horse is to borrow freedom. "

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Thank you Kate, I have an appointment with my rheumy this afternoon. Just have

to be frank w/ him and tell him the truth, I am getting worse, probably stress

from personal family problems.

Still think i can beat this thing....... but i have to be realistic, as a

nurse, i always fix everyone..... thanks for the time to write, it really helped

Kathe Sabetzadeh <lv2ryd@...> wrote:

Hi :

Yes, I think we are all in denial at times - we don't

want RA, we don't want the pain and the fatigue, and

the just not feeling good. But we have it, so we have

to deal with it, and the best way to do that is to

take the proper medications to keep the disease under

control and keep it from progressing and destroying

our joints. I have been on Mtx and Enbrel together

for a little over six months now and this combo is

doing well for me. The pain is not gone, it's always

there, but is much better with these medications. For

the RA, I also take Ultram for pain, and Mobic for

anti-inflammatory. The tops of my feet up into my

ankles is always painful, my wrists, elbows and hands

are painful and stiff. I have OA in my knees. The

thing is to deal with all of it, and get help. I

have, and if things get worse, I will talk with my

doctor, and see what we can do with it. I have

recently had my Mtx upped, and hope that will help.

I also have FM which I developed a few years after my

RA dx. My doctor, a rheumatologist, is also treating

me for that with medications. Please go and see your

doctor if you think that you are developing FM - it is

nothing to play around with. The pain from the FM is,

if you can believe it, even more debilitating that the

RA pain. It is a total body/muscle pain, not just the

joints. I guess for me, everything hurts to a degree,

and there are many here in the group who also have RA

and FM, or lupus and FM, it seems to come along with

these autoimmune diseases somehow. To treat the FM, I

also use the Ultram, as well as muscle relaxants,

nerve medication, and sleep medication. Actually,

more medication than I take for the RA. There is

fatigue in both RA and FM, so I have the double whammy

from that, and am always tired it seems, no matter how

good of sleep I get. I am also on an anti-depressant,

blood pressure meds, and asthma meds. Whew!

Anyway, I digress. The Prednisone and the Lodine are

simply masking the pain of RA, and are doing

absolutely nothing to control or slow down the disease

process which, even if you cannot see it, is causing

damage to your joints, and that cannot be taken back,

cannot be erased, it will always be there. I don't

think that this is the way you want to deal with your

RA. Okay, so Enbrel scares you because a friend had

bad side effects - you might not, and Enbrel has been

a definate plus in my RA treatment. There are other

meds out there, some I have tried, and have not had

good result with, but I do try them. There are other

biologics too. You need to treat the disease process,

not just the pain, okay? Please go to see your

doctor, and discuss getting DMARDs for your RA, and

also discuss the FM symptoms you are having.

I hope this has helped you - you always have our

support and our ears here - best of luck and let us

know how it goes - Kathe in CA

>

>

>

>

>

Kathe

" To ride a horse is to borrow freedom. "

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