Guest guest Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Coexistence of RA and SLE - is it rare? **************************************** An excerpt from a March 14, 2004 HealthTalk " Ask the Doctor " with Gardner, M.D.: Cheryl: I have lupus and rheumatoid arthritis. What are the best drugs for relief with the least side effects? My lupus is not causing any problems or pain, but my arthritis causes me pain and inflammation. Dr. Gardner: It is a rare person that has both RA and SLE. Sometimes people are mislabeled with one or the other because people with RA can have a positive test for lupus and visa versa. There is a condition called Sjogren's syndrome that I frequently see mislabeled as both diseases due to the presence of a positive ANA, the test for lupus and positive rheumatoid factor, the test for RA. I would check with your rheumatologist to make sure you have both. There are rare people who in fact have both and we call it " rhupus. " Many medications treat both including methotrexate, hydroxychloroquine, azathioprine, leflunomide and prednisone. Currently one should avoid the TNF inhibitors due to the concern about making lupus worse although this remains to be proven. http://www.healthtalk.com/rheumatoidarthritis/askthedoctor/031504.cfm **************************************** Lupus. 2002;11(5):287-92. Clinical and immunogenetic characterization of Mexican patients with 'rhupus'. Simon JA, Granados J, Cabiedes J, Morales JR, Varela JA. Department of Immunology and Rheumatology, Instituto Nacional de Ciencias Medicas y Nutricion Salvador Zubiran, Tlalpan, CP, Mexico DF. abrahamsimon@... The coexistence of systemic lupus erythematosus and rheumatoid arthritis (rhupus) is a rare clinical condition. To date, 50 cases of rhupus have been described worldwide; however, the lack of clinical criteria for this rheumatic condition has created confusion in the characterization of this disorder. Nevertheless, in this paper we describe a comprehensive clinical and serological characterization of a cohort of 22 Mexican patients with rhupus, supported by generic HLA-DR phenotyping. We found that rhupus patients have a special clinical behavior. In this setting, the signs and symptoms of rheumatoid arthritis prevail, little organic damage associated with systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE) exists and none of the cases present thrombosis or morbidity during pregnancy in spite of presenting a high frequency of anticardiolipin antibodies. We also found an increased frequency of HLA-DR1 and HLA-DR2 alleles compared to healthy ethnically matched controls, systemic lupus erythematosus and rheumatoid arthritis patients. PMID: 12090562 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uids=1\ 2090562 **************************************** From lupus expert Dr. Wallace's medical reference text " Dubois' Lupus Erythematosus " (2002): Chapter 46 Differential Diagnosis and Disease Associations " Coexistence of Systemic Lupus Erythematosus and Rheumatoid Arthritis Do SLE and RA coexist? It has long been known that patients may start with a diagnosis of RA or SLE that becomes SLE or RA over a period of years. Assuming that MCTD is not present, however, the true coexistence of these conditions is rare. Despite the frequent clinical overlap between RA and SLE features, the combination of advanced, deforming, erosive RA and a significant degree of biopsy-proven SLE is an extremely unusual finding. Occasional case reports have appeared documenting a true coexistence. Of my own group's 464 patients with idiopathic SLE, one had classic seropositive, erosive, nodular RA with biopsy-documented proliferative SLE nephritis and nephrotic syndrome. The concurrence of SCLE in patients with RA who are Ro/SSA-positive is more common. Cohen and Webb reported the development of SLE in 11 Australian patients with typical RA who were observed over a 17-year period, but the total number of patients with RA followed was not stated. Brand et al. presented 11 coexisting cases; most had class II genetic determinations of both disorders. Panush et al. have identified a true coexistence in six of 7,000 patients with RA who were evaluated over an 11-year period. It was concluded that rhupus did not occur more frequently than expected from the chance concurrence of SLE and RA (1.2%). Van Vollenhoven's group at Stanford found " rhupus " in 13 patients among 1,507 with RA and 893 with SLE. Seven appeared to have transformed from SLE to RA. " **************************************** Archives of Internal Medicine Vol. 148 No. 7, July 1, 1988 'Rhupus' syndrome R. S. Panush, N. L. , S. Longley and E. Webster Department of Medicine, College of Medicine, University of Florida. Occasionally patients with overlapping features of rheumatoid arthritis (RA) and systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE), termed " rhupus, " have been encountered. We wanted to ascertain the frequency of such patients and determine whether they represent a unique overlap syndrome. Of approximately 7000 new patients evaluated over 11 years, we identified six patients who had, on the average, 6.7 American Rheumatism Association criteria for RA and 4.2 criteria for SLE. Criteria for RA included chronic symmetric arthritis with morning stiffness (six patients); subcutaneous nodules (two patients); positive rheumatoid factors test (four patients); and radiologic erosions (four patients). The criteria for SLE included malar rash (three patients); discoid lupus erythematosus (two patients); biopsy-proved nephritis (one patient); photosensitivity (one patient); leukopenia/thrombocytopenia (four patients); positive antinuclear antibodies or lupus erythematosus cell test (six patients); hypocomplementemia (two patients); and abnormal results from skin biopsy (two patients). During observations of up to ten years, the conditions of three patients were stable or improved, one died, and two were unavailable for follow-up. Patients usually did not have conditions that evolved to classic rheumatic disease patterns. Rhupus was not common and did not occur more frequently (0.09% prevalence among our patients) than expected from chance concurrence of SLE and RA (calculated at 1.2%). These observations confirm that rhupus indeed exists as a syndrome manifested by patients sharing features of probable coincidental concurrence of RA and SLE, but not as a unique clinical pathologic or immunologic syndrome. Appreciation of these patients with rhupus is important since their therapy and outcome differ from those having RA or SLE alone. http://archinte.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/148/7/1633?ijkey=3bdbcb16f360c\ 02be00b65e7f1bd960252dee62c & keytype2=tf_ipsecsha **************************************** Not an MD I'll tell you where to go! Mayo Clinic in Rochester http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester s Hopkins Medicine http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 http://www.lupus.org/education/brochures/connective.html With all these conflicting opinions, how can we trust ANY diagnosis. ? There just isn't enough known about auto-immune diseases, to get an absolute dx. Patsy (63) AZ DX 2005 Stage 1 PBC AIH/SLE/RA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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