Occupations

[Guest guest]

Thanks for sharing everyone!

--- betnden@... wrote:

> Well, let's see.... When I was 14-15, I worked for

> a crop dusting service

> making planes, driving trucks and other vehicles,

> and 'flagging' in the rice

> fields. That was hard work, running through water

> and rice grass to get

> 'under' the plane and wave a 2'x3' flag so the pilot

> can see me, and dodging

> snakes at the same time. While in college, I did my

> part time gas station

> duty. In the USAF, I was in Communications and

> installed almost all comm

> centers in Cheyenne Mountain. I was in for a total

> of 8 years, some of it in

> SouthEast Asia.

>

> I worked for a company designing and making

> electromechanical

> one-of-a-kind's and prototypes for the oil industry

> and mining and forestry

> industries. I traveled the world helping and

> supervising my servicemen, and

> worked up to middle management as International

> Service Manager. Things were

> great, the kids were out, I was making good money,

> and had a respectable

> job. Then the roof fell in. I awoke one morning with

> all my body in

> excruciating pain! My GP didn't want me traveling

> until we at least got the

> RA stabilized, and that started my real problems.

> Since I couldn't travel,

> my effectiveness would be diminished, but my boss

> promised as long as I

> could answer the phone, it will work. I would get a

> stenographer-secretary

> or whatever it took. That sounded good to me, but

> then I was told I had to

> park in the rear of the building away from the

> entrance ramp, and had to

> climb a steep set of steps with no hand rails to get

> into the building, and

> then walk the length of the building to get to my

> office. I went up and down

> the steps on hands and feet, that was the only way.

> Then, of course, I was

> demoted with a huge drop in pay even though my

> medical bills were

> skyrocketing, and my 'office' was moved to the

> furthest from the bathroom or

> the rest of my people. I'd been working there for

> almost 20 years. From the

> onset of RA to being 'laid off' was almost a year.

> You see, everybody has

> arthritis.

>

> Dennis in Eastexas

> " It's not Rocket Surgery "

>

> [ ] Occupations

>

>

> > Hi all,

> >

> > Would be interested in to hear what you all do (or

> > did) for jobs.

> >

> > For those of you who no longer work, what was

> reason

> > with your RA that caused you to stop?

> >

> > I work in marketing and do a lot on the computer

> (desk

> > work). The thought of not working is scary.

> >

> > Just trying to get a perspective.

> >

> > Thanks & good night!

> > -Parrish

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am afraid my list is very boring.

I worked for 30+ years as a Production Planner and Purchasing Manager for 32

years then went on 6 mos. short term disability followed by long term

disability at age 55.

Hugs

June Dixon

[Guest guest]

I'm an almost 30 mom in the midst of a career change, going from a pilot to

nursing or dental hygiene. Ya know what? To even begin either program, a

student must be vaccinated. Vaccines are probably mandatory for the job,

too. What kind of crud is this??? I object.

So let this be my new member intro.

We live in Emeryville, CA, down the street from Berkeley. My daughter

Hailey is going to be 6 months on September 1st (April fool's baby). Her

father believes that science & medicine will do what's best for the

individual, therefore he's very PRO-VAX. He mandates she get all her

shots. When I tell him 'vaccines' are, in essence, evil, b/c of their

ingredients, theory, etc., he refutes my plea for Hailey's health by saying

" What would we do if she got something? " She's mostly unvaxed - only

Prevnar & rotovirus, both at 2 & 4 months. I feel guilty even for those

shots. I can't do anymore, and I WON'T do anymore. Even if I attempt to

educate him ( & he's educated himself, degree wise, perhaps not so much

common sense), he'll shrug it off like it's a new age conspiracy...or

something far out. He maintains the same 'ideals' as his family, God bless

them. They can't understand why or how I handmake my own babyfood. If

cloth diapers were strange enough for them, 7th generation chlorine free is

a paper bag on her butt. At least they're pro-breastfeeding.

I'm enjoying the news feeds.

Happy Autumn,

Catie

[Guest guest]

You can get an exemption, no matter what state you are in. Not sure

where to find it though.

- In Vaccinations , " E. Tomlinson "

<kittytomlinson@...> wrote:

>

> I'm an almost 30 mom in the midst of a career change, going from a

pilot to

> nursing or dental hygiene. Ya know what? To even begin either

program, a

> student must be vaccinated. Vaccines are probably mandatory for the

job,

> too. What kind of crud is this??? I object.

>

[Guest guest]

Welcome, Catie! Good for you to stay strong about the vaccines. My first two

kids had way more than the couple you did so you are way ahead of the game in my

book.

I'm sure there are a lot of parents where one is pro-vax and the other not. It's

normal for your hub to question what to do if she gets sick. There are two

answers to that. One is, you nurse her through it. Two, you can ask him " what if

she has a horrible reaction or dies from the vaccine? " It happens. A lot. You

are smart to not want to risk that.

Winnie

Re: occupations

Vaccinations

> I'm an almost 30 mom in the midst of a career change, going from

> a pilot to

> nursing or dental hygiene. Ya know what? To even begin either

> program, a

> student must be vaccinated. Vaccines are probably mandatory for

> the job,

> too. What kind of crud is this??? I object.

>

>

> So let this be my new member intro.

>

> We live in Emeryville, CA, down the street from Berkeley. My daughter

> Hailey is going to be 6 months on September 1st (April fool's

> baby). Her

> father believes that science & medicine will do what's best for the

> individual, therefore he's very PRO-VAX. He mandates she get

> all her

> shots. When I tell him 'vaccines' are, in essence, evil, b/c of their

> ingredients, theory, etc., he refutes my plea for Hailey's

> health by saying

> " What would we do if she got something? " She's mostly unvaxed - only

> Prevnar & rotovirus, both at 2 & 4 months. I feel guilty even

> for those

> shots. I can't do anymore, and I WON'T do anymore. Even if I

> attempt to

> educate him ( & he's educated himself, degree wise, perhaps not

> so much

> common sense), he'll shrug it off like it's a new age conspiracy...or

> something far out. He maintains the same 'ideals' as his

> family, God bless

> them. They can't understand why or how I handmake my own

> babyfood. If

> cloth diapers were strange enough for them, 7th generation

> chlorine free is

> a paper bag on her butt. At least they're pro-breastfeeding.

>

> I'm enjoying the news feeds.

>

> Happy Autumn,

>

> Catie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

At 03:36 AM 9/26/2008, you wrote:

>I'm an almost 30 mom in the midst of a career change, going from a pilot to

>nursing or dental hygiene. Ya know what? To even begin either program, a

>student must be vaccinated. Vaccines are probably mandatory for the job,

>too. What kind of crud is this??? I object.

I don't recommend anyone go into any of these fields anymore for the

above reason and for other reasons with nursing.

You may be able to get out of them for schooll - depends on your

state - but you won't be able to get out of them for nursing jobs.

Don't know about dental hygiene. And with dental hygiene you will be

exposed to mercury all day long, unless work for mercury-free dentists

And nursing has another whole huge set of problems besides the vaccines

Find another career is my recommendation

>So let this be my new member intro.

>

>We live in Emeryville, CA, down the street from Berkeley. My daughter

>Hailey is going to be 6 months on September 1st (April fool's baby). Her

>father believes that science & medicine will do what's best for the

>individual, therefore he's very PRO-VAX. He mandates she get all her

>shots. When I tell him 'vaccines' are, in essence, evil, b/c of their

>ingredients, theory, etc., he refutes my plea for Hailey's health by saying

> " What would we do if she got something? " She's mostly unvaxed - only

>Prevnar & rotovirus, both at 2 & 4 months. I feel guilty even for those

>shots. I can't do anymore, and I WON'T do anymore. Even if I attempt to

>educate him ( & he's educated himself, degree wise, perhaps not so much

>common sense), he'll shrug it off like it's a new age conspiracy...or

>something far out. He maintains the same 'ideals' as his family, God bless

>them. They can't understand why or how I handmake my own babyfood. If

>cloth diapers were strange enough for them, 7th generation chlorine free is

>a paper bag on her butt. At least they're pro-breastfeeding.

I encourage you to take my class and share everything

Some tell spouses " if you don't read all of this, you don't get to

make the decision "

But best to get him on board.

>I'm enjoying the news feeds.

Welcome

Sheri

--------------------------------------------------------

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Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

Vaccines - http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm

Vaccine Dangers & Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes Sept 10, 2008

[Guest guest]

I thought you couldn't in WV and Mississippi.

On Sep 26, 2008, at 12:10 AM, Vida Khan wrote:

> You can get an exemption, no matter what state you are in. Not sure

> where to find it though.

>

> - In Vaccinations , " E. Tomlinson "

> <kittytomlinson@...> wrote:

> >

> > I'm an almost 30 mom in the midst of a career change, going from a

> pilot to

> > nursing or dental hygiene. Ya know what? To even begin either

> program, a

> > student must be vaccinated. Vaccines are probably mandatory for the

> job,

> > too. What kind of crud is this??? I object.

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

http://www.nvic.org/state-site/state-exemptions.htm

Jackie

Mommy of 2 Beautiful Autistic Angels On Their Way to Recovery!

Join my Vaccine group! Talk everything about vaccines (the good, the bad, and

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> You can get an exemption, no matter what state you are in. Not sure

> where to find it though.

>

[Guest guest]

Are teachers required to get vaccines? Considering you are around

children all day long and it is mandated for the students. I'm

studying to be a teacher, so I sure hope not.

>

> I don't recommend anyone go into any of these fields anymore for the

> above reason...

[Guest guest]

Vida Khan wrote:

>Are teachers required to get vaccines?

>

In NJ my friend was mandated to get some vaccines, including TB (don't

know if it was just at test or there's a vax) AND the flu!. She's was

too afraid of losing her job to make a stink and object, so I don't know

if she could have opted out or not. btw, if was a Catholic School and

she argued (with me) that she couldn't opt out because Catholics can't

and she had signed documents when being hired that she was a practicing

Catholic.

She already had the shots, so I didn't try to argue with her. Better to

be friends than right ;-p

Bobbett

[Guest guest]

Hi Catie --

Welcome to the group. My kids are partially vaxed too. DH is supportive

but probably b/c he and I are old enough to have had many of the diseases

they now for -- and look we're still here!

As for your future education -- perhaps you want to reconsider those two and

choose something that alligns better with your beliefs...

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On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 10:36 PM, E. Tomlinson <

kittytomlinson@...> wrote:

> I'm an almost 30 mom in the midst of a career change, going from a pilot to

> nursing or dental hygiene. Ya know what? To even begin either program, a

> student must be vaccinated. Vaccines are probably mandatory for the job,

> too. What kind of crud is this??? I object.

>

>

> So let this be my new member intro.

>

> We live in Emeryville, CA, down the street from Berkeley. My daughter

> Hailey is going to be 6 months on September 1st (April fool's baby). Her

> father believes that science & medicine will do what's best for the

> individual, therefore he's very PRO-VAX. He mandates she get all her

> shots. When I tell him 'vaccines' are, in essence, evil, b/c of their

> ingredients, theory, etc., he refutes my plea for Hailey's health by saying

> " What would we do if she got something? " She's mostly unvaxed - only

> Prevnar & rotovirus, both at 2 & 4 months. I feel guilty even for those

> shots. I can't do anymore, and I WON'T do anymore. Even if I attempt to

> educate him ( & he's educated himself, degree wise, perhaps not so much

> common sense), he'll shrug it off like it's a new age conspiracy...or

> something far out. He maintains the same 'ideals' as his family, God bless

> them. They can't understand why or how I handmake my own babyfood. If

> cloth diapers were strange enough for them, 7th generation chlorine free is

> a paper bag on her butt. At least they're pro-breastfeeding.

>

> I'm enjoying the news feeds.

>

> Happy Autumn,

>

> Catie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I would agree with what and Sheri said..

My good friend is a dental hygenist...and she had a very hard

pregnancy with her first born who had SEVERE colic. She is now

pregnant again...and though is doing better with this pregnancy..it's

still been hard on her. A dental office is one of the most toxic

places there are! Are you sure you want to be breathing in

everything from the office?

It's so hard when our professional careers are not aligned with our

beliefs. I even have a hard time working part time as a waitress and

serving SODA (especially diet) to people...especially children. I

really struggle with that since I know how horrible it really is.

Good luck and take care!

Tara

>

> > I'm an almost 30 mom in the midst of a career change, going from

a pilot to

> > nursing or dental hygiene. Ya know what? To even begin either

program, a

> > student must be vaccinated. Vaccines are probably mandatory for

the job,

> > too. What kind of crud is this??? I object.

> >

> >

> > So let this be my new member intro.

> >

> > We live in Emeryville, CA, down the street from Berkeley. My

daughter

> > Hailey is going to be 6 months on September 1st (April fool's

baby). Her

> > father believes that science & medicine will do what's best for

the

> > individual, therefore he's very PRO-VAX. He mandates she get all

her

> > shots. When I tell him 'vaccines' are, in essence, evil, b/c of

their

> > ingredients, theory, etc., he refutes my plea for Hailey's health

by saying

> > " What would we do if she got something? " She's mostly unvaxed -

only

> > Prevnar & rotovirus, both at 2 & 4 months. I feel guilty even

for those

> > shots. I can't do anymore, and I WON'T do anymore. Even if I

attempt to

> > educate him ( & he's educated himself, degree wise, perhaps not so

much

> > common sense), he'll shrug it off like it's a new age

conspiracy...or

> > something far out. He maintains the same 'ideals' as his family,

God bless

> > them. They can't understand why or how I handmake my own

babyfood. If

> > cloth diapers were strange enough for them, 7th generation

chlorine free is

> > a paper bag on her butt. At least they're pro-breastfeeding.

> >

> > I'm enjoying the news feeds.

> >

> > Happy Autumn,

> >

> > Catie

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I was involved in Respiratory Therapy...I quit that.

I remember there was this child with cystic fibrosis on a ventilator.

They we feeding him this crap through a e- tub. When they took him

off the ventilator they mentioned that they hoped he would have

enough strength to stay off it. I knew he would be right back on it.

How can he have strength? You are poisoning him!

That was one of the deciding factors for me!

correy

On Sep 26, 2008, at 2:47 PM, Tara wrote:

> I would agree with what and Sheri said..

>

> My good friend is a dental hygenist...and she had a very hard

> pregnancy with her first born who had SEVERE colic. She is now

> pregnant again...and though is doing better with this pregnancy..it's

> still been hard on her. A dental office is one of the most toxic

> places there are! Are you sure you want to be breathing in

> everything from the office?

>

> It's so hard when our professional careers are not aligned with our

> beliefs. I even have a hard time working part time as a waitress and

> serving SODA (especially diet) to people...especially children. I

> really struggle with that since I know how horrible it really is.

>

> Good luck and take care!

>

> Tara

>

>

> >

> > > I'm an almost 30 mom in the midst of a career change, going from

> a pilot to

> > > nursing or dental hygiene. Ya know what? To even begin either

> program, a

> > > student must be vaccinated. Vaccines are probably mandatory for

> the job,

> > > too. What kind of crud is this??? I object.

> > >

> > >

> > > So let this be my new member intro.

> > >

> > > We live in Emeryville, CA, down the street from Berkeley. My

> daughter

> > > Hailey is going to be 6 months on September 1st (April fool's

> baby). Her

> > > father believes that science & medicine will do what's best for

> the

> > > individual, therefore he's very PRO-VAX. He mandates she get all

> her

> > > shots. When I tell him 'vaccines' are, in essence, evil, b/c of

> their

> > > ingredients, theory, etc., he refutes my plea for Hailey's health

> by saying

> > > " What would we do if she got something? " She's mostly unvaxed -

> only

> > > Prevnar & rotovirus, both at 2 & 4 months. I feel guilty even

> for those

> > > shots. I can't do anymore, and I WON'T do anymore. Even if I

> attempt to

> > > educate him ( & he's educated himself, degree wise, perhaps not so

> much

> > > common sense), he'll shrug it off like it's a new age

> conspiracy...or

> > > something far out. He maintains the same 'ideals' as his family,

> God bless

> > > them. They can't understand why or how I handmake my own

> babyfood. If

> > > cloth diapers were strange enough for them, 7th generation

> chlorine free is

> > > a paper bag on her butt. At least they're pro-breastfeeding.

> > >

> > > I'm enjoying the news feeds.

> > >

> > > Happy Autumn,

> > >

> > > Catie

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

My husband " had " to have the Hep B vaccine to teach and TB tests every so

often. This was before we knew about the dangers of vaccines. I don't know

if the school system would have accepted an exemption from him or not.

Kay in KY

-----Original Message-----

On Behalf Of Vida Khan

Are teachers required to get vaccines? Considering you are around

children all day long and it is mandated for the students. I'm

studying to be a teacher, so I sure hope not.

[Guest guest]

See, that's just weird rationing to me. What would a teacher be doing in school

that would make him likely to either catch or pass on Heb B? Do they even stop

to think about this? And if that's a likely occurrence, they have bigger

problems than a vaccine will solve.

Bronwyn

Wife to Kurt since 5/02

Mom to:

Dorian (7/04)

Faith (2/06)

Quinn (4/08)

and my faithful steed Teo (4/91) since 9/95

From: Kay <Casper3@...>

Subject: RE: Re: occupations

Vaccinations

Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 1:54 PM

My husband " had " to have the Hep B vaccine to teach and TB tests

every so

often. This was before we knew about the dangers of vaccines. I don't know

if the school system would have accepted an exemption from him or not.

Kay in KY

[Guest guest]

I am a teacher in Wisconsin in the public school system. I was required to

have a health exam and tb test when I first was hired 15 years ago--but have

needed no proof since. I don't believe I had to mention any vaccines.

BUT--when there was a measles and mumps outbreak in the school system, had

my school had cases, I would have been required to prove my vaccination

record I believe. They were urging everyone to get boosters and it might

have come to a head my school been on the news. I of course would not have

gotten revaxed so I would have either had to pull up childhood records, get

titers done, or stayed home until the outbreak was over-- " for my safety " .

L.

Re: occupations

> Are teachers required to get vaccines? Considering you are around

> children all day long and it is mandated for the students. I'm

> studying to be a teacher, so I sure hope not.

>

>

>>

>> I don't recommend anyone go into any of these fields anymore for the

>> above reason...

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

It's the " possibility " of being exposed to blood from, for example, a child

with a bloody nose, a cut or bleeding wound, blood from a child losing a

tooth, fights (my dh teaches in a high school now, and with behavior problem

kids), etc.

Kay in KY

-----Original Message-----

See, that's just weird rationing to me. What would a teacher be doing in

school that would make him likely to either catch or pass on Heb B?

Bronwyn

[Guest guest]

Aren't the chances low that you will catch Hep B from a student. If a

teacher has Hep they should make sure they handle it in the correct

way. (this should be taught to them) I do think teachers and even

students should be tested for the Heps.

I guess children could contract it after they are tested and spread

it during fights, but how common is this?

And.....

Gloves need to be worn as a precaution when blood is a present.

There are precautions one could take from contracting Hep B,

correct? Why does it have to be a vaccine.

I understand it more when the vaccine is given in the hospital to

staff because you could get stuck by a needle.

correy

On Sep 27, 2008, at 11:02 AM, Kay wrote:

> It's the " possibility " of being exposed to blood from, for example,

> a child

> with a bloody nose, a cut or bleeding wound, blood from a child

> losing a

> tooth, fights (my dh teaches in a high school now, and with

> behavior problem

> kids), etc.

>

> Kay in KY

>

> -----Original Message-----

>

> See, that's just weird rationing to me. What would a teacher be

> doing in

> school that would make him likely to either catch or pass on Heb B?

>

> Bronwyn

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

PS

Behavior problems from the Hep B shot!! LOL

On Sep 27, 2008, at 11:02 AM, Kay wrote:

> It's the " possibility " of being exposed to blood from, for example,

> a child

> with a bloody nose, a cut or bleeding wound, blood from a child

> losing a

> tooth, fights (my dh teaches in a high school now, and with

> behavior problem

> kids), etc.

>

> Kay in KY

>

> -----Original Message-----

>

> See, that's just weird rationing to me. What would a teacher be

> doing in

> school that would make him likely to either catch or pass on Heb B?

>

> Bronwyn

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don't believe the Hep B offers any protection (or any other vaccine for

that matter). It's just something the schools offer all their staff around

here, as a supposed safety net. It's offered to everyone from lunch room

workers to administrators who don't even come in direct contact with many

children.

Nearly all children have been given the Hep B vaccine by the time they enter

school, not all adults working there have. I think it's part of the medical

industry's targeting adults with vaccines. Doesn't matter if they have a

perceived need for it or not. They just want to vax every human on the

planet.

Kay in KY

-----Original Message-----

Aren't the chances low that you will catch Hep B from a student. If a

teacher has Hep they should make sure they handle it in the correct

way. (this should be taught to them) I do think teachers and even

students should be tested for the Heps.

I guess children could contract it after they are tested and spread

it during fights, but how common is this?

And.....

Gloves need to be worn as a precaution when blood is a present.

There are precautions one could take from contracting Hep B,

correct? Why does it have to be a vaccine.

I understand it more when the vaccine is given in the hospital to

staff because you could get stuck by a needle.

correy

[Guest guest]

*You* know that, and *we* know that, but *they* don't know that! The

media/bigpHARMa/government has created such hysteria that no one knows

or bothers to figure out the truth anymore.... so when in doubt, just

vaccinte the heck out of everybody! It's almost like your vax status

is the gauge for your " sterile " status, in that if you are vaxed, you

are " disinfected " , so to speak. Dumb, but that's our

give-me-a-drug-so-I-don't-have-to-be-accountable-for-my-own-health

society for you!

On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 8:06 PM, Le <kdhrtd@...> wrote:

> Aren't the chances low that you will catch Hep B from a student. If a

> teacher has Hep they should make sure they handle it in the correct

> way. (this should be taught to them) I do think teachers and even

> students should be tested for the Heps.

> I guess children could contract it after they are tested and spread

> it during fights, but how common is this?

> And.....

> Gloves need to be worn as a precaution when blood is a present.

> There are precautions one could take from contracting Hep B,

> correct? Why does it have to be a vaccine.

>

> I understand it more when the vaccine is given in the hospital to

> staff because you could get stuck by a needle.

>

> correy