Guest guest Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 Soy is an anti-nutrient, blocking absorption of minerals and causing harm to many body organs, especially the thyroid. I'd like to read where you got this info. I'm curious b/c edamame is eaten by the Japanese & I didn't think soy was that bad except for the similar effects it has on many with gfcf, corn, soy. Thanks for the info. -- Marie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 we use of the 8th continent sort of soy milk for my grand baby and she does well with it , she loves of the tastes of it . appears over all healthier than most babies has a much good complextion. Most people comment on her look of health. I to contribute of it to that milk in part, but she is not able to do as well on regular milk it causes her tummy distress and diarhea and such. Sondra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Hi Sondra, I would guess that Delaney's healthy appearance is due to the absence of cow's milk formula rather than the addition of soy formula, particularly if she has strong issues with dairy, as she clearly does. There are many alternatives to soy formula, and a baby should never be given soy. It's just criminal what these doctors do to babies. My cousin's little baby boy was taken off cow's milk formula for the same reasons as Delaney and his pediatrician also switched him to soy formula. He drank lots of soy formula all day, since he was a picky eater, and that was one of his few sources of calories. He is starting to show signs of stunted growth and hormonal disturbances. It's the long-term effects that you need to be concerned about. > we use of the 8th continent sort of soy milk for my grand baby and she > does well with it , she loves of the tastes of it . appears over all > healthier than most babies has a much good complextion. Most people > comment on her look of health. I to contribute of it to that milk in > part, but she is not able to do as well on regular milk it causes her > tummy distress and diarhea and such. > Sondra > > > > Autism_in_Girls-subscribe > ------------------------ > Autism_in_Girls-unsubscribe > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 cathy this is of not a formula it is of in the dairy and is of shared to promote heart health by nutricians so is this still bad for her? I to be of just never know as this si why for self I to not pursue of things because when I to think been doing healthy find have not. it is of too frustrating for me/ Sondra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 My son drinks soy milk because he is lactose intolerant. He hasn't had any health problems or stunted growth (actually, his growth increased dramatically when we switched him to soy). However, we do limit the amount he drinks, just like I would limit how much cow's milk he would otherwise be drinking. He gets milk at meals only, not through out the day. And his diet otherwise is very healthy and full of variety. My daughter drinks soy or cow and is still nursing as well. She likes everything I've done a lot of research on the soy debate too, since my son and husband can't have dairy and we don't eat meat, so we do some soy based substitutes. What I learned is that it is the amount you consume and also the percentage of total diet that makes a difference. The reason babies on soy formula have had problems is because it is the majority of their nutrition from soy. As long as you have a variety, and don't have a history of thyroid issues, most people are fine with consuming soy as part of a balanced diet. Amnesty (although, personally, I HATE the taste of soy in just about any form, except for edame, and I only eat that once in a while) > > cathy this is of not a formula it is of in the dairy and is of shared > to promote heart health by nutricians so is this still bad for her? I > to be of just never know as this si why for self I to not pursue of > things because when I to think been doing healthy find have not. it is > of too frustrating for me/ > Sondra > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 If you nurse til age 2, there is no reason for a milk substitute. But babies under 2 who aren't nursing (which I believe Delaney is under 2 and didn't nurse, right? I forget her age) need fat and protein, in addition to calcium, and milk is generally considered the most convenient way to do that. Sondra, if you or Aimee would like to learn ways to add fat and protein to Delaney's diet without a milk substitute, let me know and I can help you come up with some other ideas. Because my son had multiple food allergies (14, to be exact), and we're vegetarian, and he's lactose intolerant, AND my husband has food allergies to even MORE foods, most of them different from my son's (not to mention my husband is incredibly picky)....well, I've had to learn a lot about it, and ways to be creative in providing healthy diets for everyone! Amnesty > > > >> cathy this is of not a formula it is of in the dairy > >> and is of shared > >> to promote heart health by nutricians so is this > >> still bad for her? I > >> to be of just never know as this si why for self I > >> to not pursue of > >> things because when I to think been doing healthy > >> find have not. it is > >> of too frustrating for me/ > >> Sondra > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > ______________ > > Be a better friend, newshound, and > > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http:// > > mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > > > > > > > Autism_in_Girls-subscribe > > ------------------------ > > Autism_in_Girls-unsubscribe > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 That, and especially immunosuppressive multiple vaccines contribute to asthma and allergies. On Jan 2, 2008, at 7:41 PM, Amy Wittman wrote: > Does anyone associate allergies to candida overgrowth?? > Amy > > Amnesty wrote: > If you nurse til age 2, there is no reason for a milk > substitute. But > babies under 2 who aren't nursing (which I believe Delaney is under 2 > and didn't nurse, right? I forget her age) need fat and protein, in > addition to calcium, and milk is generally considered the most > convenient way to do that. > Sondra, if you or Aimee would like to learn ways to add fat and > protein to Delaney's diet without a milk substitute, let me know and I > can help you come up with some other ideas. Because my son had > multiple food allergies (14, to be exact), and we're vegetarian, and > he's lactose intolerant, AND my husband has food allergies to even > MORE foods, most of them different from my son's (not to mention my > husband is incredibly picky)....well, I've had to learn a lot about > it, and ways to be creative in providing healthy diets for everyone! > Amnesty > > >>> >>>> cathy this is of not a formula it is of in the dairy >>>> and is of shared >>>> to promote heart health by nutricians so is this >>>> still bad for her? I >>>> to be of just never know as this si why for self I >>>> to not pursue of >>>> things because when I to think been doing healthy >>>> find have not. it is >>>> of too frustrating for me/ >>>> Sondra >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > __________________________________________________________ >>> ______________ >>> Be a better friend, newshound, and >>> know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http:// >>> mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ >>> >>> >>> >>> Autism_in_Girls-subscribe >>> ------------------------ >>> Autism_in_Girls-unsubscribe >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Not my allergies, but a coach I had eliminated yeasty foods to deal with dermatitis effectively, and someone else I know has a boatload of food allergies and chemical sensitivities that got a lot better with a candida reduction program. Fortunately I " just " have to worry about gluten, and to a lesser extent salycilates/phenols, and just don't " do " soy. The dietary conversations on here are really enlightening, I think. Kassiane --- Amy Wittman wrote: > Does anyone associate allergies to candida > overgrowth?? > Amy > > Amnesty wrote: > If you nurse til age 2, there is no reason > for a milk substitute. But > babies under 2 who aren't nursing (which I believe > Delaney is under 2 > and didn't nurse, right? I forget her age) need fat > and protein, in > addition to calcium, and milk is generally > considered the most > convenient way to do that. > Sondra, if you or Aimee would like to learn ways to > add fat and > protein to Delaney's diet without a milk substitute, > let me know and I > can help you come up with some other ideas. Because > my son had > multiple food allergies (14, to be exact), and we're > vegetarian, and > he's lactose intolerant, AND my husband has food > allergies to even > MORE foods, most of them different from my son's > (not to mention my > husband is incredibly picky)....well, I've had to > learn a lot about > it, and ways to be creative in providing healthy > diets for everyone! > Amnesty > > > > > > > >> cathy this is of not a formula it is of in the > dairy > > >> and is of shared > > >> to promote heart health by nutricians so is > this > > >> still bad for her? I > > >> to be of just never know as this si why for > self I > > >> to not pursue of > > >> things because when I to think been doing > healthy > > >> find have not. it is > > >> of too frustrating for me/ > > >> Sondra > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > > ______________ > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and > > > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > http:// > > > > mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > > > > > > > > > > > Autism_in_Girls-subscribe > > > ------------------------ > > > Autism_in_Girls-unsubscribe > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 amnesty that is of a good ideas to try of some almond milk as we have not tried of that because we just introduced of hte almonds to her, she calls of them her candy LOL. but we want to assure she is not allergic to the nuts before to get more options with almonds in them but that isof a good ideas for me to try later. Sondra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 What are the treatments that will make it gone fo good? I know that not eating sugar is the main thing, but are other medications suggested as well? You guys are a wealth of knowledge! Thanks, Gwen Re: Re: -soy, used to be GFCF , I like how you think! You stated that beautifully! Candida is not just something that is contained in the intestines. It has also been linked and blamed for disorders like: recurring yeast infections thrush melancholy depression anxiety recurring irritability or mood swings fatigue lethargy Fibromyalgia Chronic Fatigue autoimmune disorders heartburn indigestion acid reflux; (gastro-esophageal reflux disease GERD) irritable bowel syndrome (IBS) dry, itchy, flaky skin jock itch acne or other skin problems extreme food and environmental allergies lactose intolerance sinusitis joint soreness chest pain cholesterol problems headaches and migraines recurring cystitis/vaginal yeast overgrowth/infections premenstrual tension/menstrual problems Most, not all, Md's do not even consider candida as the cause of these disorders. Many people are tested for everything under the sun, with no DX and no help. For those Md's that are aware of candida, medications are often perscribed which does nothing but temporarily give relief....when meds are stopped, conditions will come back....Not to mention the side affects that now you experience from taking medications. Candida can be naturally treated, and gone for good. You will find that once you body is in balance, your other symptoms will disappear also. Amy cathylynn2 wrote: Yeast overgrowth can definitely cause allergies. People with dysregulated immune systems are particularly susceptible to chronic, systemic yeast overgrowth. Many autistic children are particularly vulnerable. Candida can eventually evolve from a yeast form into a fungal form, and very long, root-like structures called rhizoids puncture the intestinal lining, leading to leaky gut syndrome. This creates holes in the digestive tract, allowing many foreign and toxic substances to pass into the bloodstream. When undigested food particles leak through these holes and enter the bloodstream, the body views them as foreign invaders. The candida organisms that pass through the blood stream have been found to produce over 70 known toxins that will poison and strain the major organs in the body, including the liver, kidneys, heart, colon, bladder, and central nervous system. The ability to absorb and digest the necessary nutrients from foods eaten is dramatically reduced. Among the toxins produced is acetaldehyde, a poison that is converted by the liver into alcohol. As alcohol builds up in the system, symptoms associated with alcohol intoxication develop. This is why one of the most common symptoms of candida is brain fog, confusion, inappropriate laughter....almost like being drunk. The body's immune system may also respond to candida toxins and food molecules in the bloodstream with high histamine production. This in turn can result in classic symptoms of allergies and food intolerances, and if left untreated, can eventually lead to autoimmune disorders such as arthritis, fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue syndrome, Crohn's disease or colitis, diabetes, lupus, as well as many skin disorders. > I think it's the other way around, allergies leading to candida, not > candida leading to allergies. I don't know though, I haven't seen any > research on cause/effect. > Amnesty > > > >> >> Thats correct! I just wondered if anyone thought that candida was > the cause of allergies also...I do. I know it plays a huge role in our > autistic childs cerebral allergies! >> Amy >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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