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Soy is

an anti-nutrient, blocking absorption of minerals and causing harm to

many body organs, especially the thyroid.

I'd like to read where you got this info. I'm curious b/c edamame is eaten

by the Japanese & I didn't think soy was that bad except for the similar

effects it has on many with gfcf, corn, soy.

Thanks for the info.

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Marie

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we use of the 8th continent sort of soy milk for my grand baby and she

does well with it , she loves of the tastes of it . appears over all

healthier than most babies has a much good complextion. Most people

comment on her look of health. I to contribute of it to that milk in

part, but she is not able to do as well on regular milk it causes her

tummy distress and diarhea and such.

Sondra

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Hi Sondra,

I would guess that Delaney's healthy appearance is due to the absence

of cow's milk formula rather than the addition of soy formula,

particularly if she has strong issues with dairy, as she clearly

does. There are many alternatives to soy formula, and a baby should

never be given soy. It's just criminal what these doctors do to

babies. My cousin's little baby boy was taken off cow's milk formula

for the same reasons as Delaney and his pediatrician also switched

him to soy formula. He drank lots of soy formula all day, since he

was a picky eater, and that was one of his few sources of calories.

He is starting to show signs of stunted growth and hormonal

disturbances. It's the long-term effects that you need to be

concerned about.

> we use of the 8th continent sort of soy milk for my grand baby and she

> does well with it , she loves of the tastes of it . appears over all

> healthier than most babies has a much good complextion. Most people

> comment on her look of health. I to contribute of it to that milk in

> part, but she is not able to do as well on regular milk it causes her

> tummy distress and diarhea and such.

> Sondra

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cathy this is of not a formula it is of in the dairy and is of shared

to promote heart health by nutricians so is this still bad for her? I

to be of just never know as this si why for self I to not pursue of

things because when I to think been doing healthy find have not. it is

of too frustrating for me/

Sondra

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My son drinks soy milk because he is lactose intolerant. He hasn't had

any health problems or stunted growth (actually, his growth increased

dramatically when we switched him to soy). However, we do limit the

amount he drinks, just like I would limit how much cow's milk he would

otherwise be drinking. He gets milk at meals only, not through out the

day. And his diet otherwise is very healthy and full of variety.

My daughter drinks soy or cow and is still nursing as well. She likes

everything :)

I've done a lot of research on the soy debate too, since my son and

husband can't have dairy and we don't eat meat, so we do some soy

based substitutes. What I learned is that it is the amount you consume

and also the percentage of total diet that makes a difference. The

reason babies on soy formula have had problems is because it is the

majority of their nutrition from soy. As long as you have a variety,

and don't have a history of thyroid issues, most people are fine with

consuming soy as part of a balanced diet.

Amnesty

(although, personally, I HATE the taste of soy in just about any form,

except for edame, and I only eat that once in a while)

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> cathy this is of not a formula it is of in the dairy and is of shared

> to promote heart health by nutricians so is this still bad for her? I

> to be of just never know as this si why for self I to not pursue of

> things because when I to think been doing healthy find have not. it is

> of too frustrating for me/

> Sondra

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If you nurse til age 2, there is no reason for a milk substitute. But

babies under 2 who aren't nursing (which I believe Delaney is under 2

and didn't nurse, right? I forget her age) need fat and protein, in

addition to calcium, and milk is generally considered the most

convenient way to do that.

Sondra, if you or Aimee would like to learn ways to add fat and

protein to Delaney's diet without a milk substitute, let me know and I

can help you come up with some other ideas. Because my son had

multiple food allergies (14, to be exact), and we're vegetarian, and

he's lactose intolerant, AND my husband has food allergies to even

MORE foods, most of them different from my son's (not to mention my

husband is incredibly picky)....well, I've had to learn a lot about

it, and ways to be creative in providing healthy diets for everyone!

Amnesty

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> >> cathy this is of not a formula it is of in the dairy

> >> and is of shared

> >> to promote heart health by nutricians so is this

> >> still bad for her? I

> >> to be of just never know as this si why for self I

> >> to not pursue of

> >> things because when I to think been doing healthy

> >> find have not. it is

> >> of too frustrating for me/

> >> Sondra

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That, and especially immunosuppressive multiple vaccines contribute to

asthma and allergies.

On Jan 2, 2008, at 7:41 PM, Amy Wittman

wrote:

> Does anyone associate allergies to candida overgrowth??

> Amy

>

> Amnesty wrote:

> If you nurse til age 2, there is no reason for a milk

> substitute. But

> babies under 2 who aren't nursing (which I believe Delaney is under 2

> and didn't nurse, right? I forget her age) need fat and protein, in

> addition to calcium, and milk is generally considered the most

> convenient way to do that.

> Sondra, if you or Aimee would like to learn ways to add fat and

> protein to Delaney's diet without a milk substitute, let me know and I

> can help you come up with some other ideas. Because my son had

> multiple food allergies (14, to be exact), and we're vegetarian, and

> he's lactose intolerant, AND my husband has food allergies to even

> MORE foods, most of them different from my son's (not to mention my

> husband is incredibly picky)....well, I've had to learn a lot about

> it, and ways to be creative in providing healthy diets for everyone!

> Amnesty

>

>

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>>>> cathy this is of not a formula it is of in the dairy

>>>> and is of shared

>>>> to promote heart health by nutricians so is this

>>>> still bad for her? I

>>>> to be of just never know as this si why for self I

>>>> to not pursue of

>>>> things because when I to think been doing healthy

>>>> find have not. it is

>>>> of too frustrating for me/

>>>> Sondra

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>>>>

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Not my allergies, but a coach I had eliminated yeasty

foods to deal with dermatitis effectively, and someone

else I know has a boatload of food allergies and

chemical sensitivities that got a lot better with a

candida reduction program.

Fortunately I " just " have to worry about gluten, and

to a lesser extent salycilates/phenols, and just don't

" do " soy.

The dietary conversations on here are really

enlightening, I think.

Kassiane

--- Amy Wittman wrote:

> Does anyone associate allergies to candida

> overgrowth??

> Amy

>

> Amnesty wrote:

> If you nurse til age 2, there is no reason

> for a milk substitute. But

> babies under 2 who aren't nursing (which I believe

> Delaney is under 2

> and didn't nurse, right? I forget her age) need fat

> and protein, in

> addition to calcium, and milk is generally

> considered the most

> convenient way to do that.

> Sondra, if you or Aimee would like to learn ways to

> add fat and

> protein to Delaney's diet without a milk substitute,

> let me know and I

> can help you come up with some other ideas. Because

> my son had

> multiple food allergies (14, to be exact), and we're

> vegetarian, and

> he's lactose intolerant, AND my husband has food

> allergies to even

> MORE foods, most of them different from my son's

> (not to mention my

> husband is incredibly picky)....well, I've had to

> learn a lot about

> it, and ways to be creative in providing healthy

> diets for everyone!

> Amnesty

>

>

> > >

> > >> cathy this is of not a formula it is of in the

> dairy

> > >> and is of shared

> > >> to promote heart health by nutricians so is

> this

> > >> still bad for her? I

> > >> to be of just never know as this si why for

> self I

> > >> to not pursue of

> > >> things because when I to think been doing

> healthy

> > >> find have not. it is

> > >> of too frustrating for me/

> > >> Sondra

> > >>

> > >>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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amnesty that is of a good ideas to try of some almond milk as we have

not tried of that because we just introduced of hte almonds to her, she

calls of them her candy LOL. but we want to assure she is not allergic

to the nuts before to get more options with almonds in them but that

isof a good ideas for me to try later.

Sondra

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What are the treatments that will make it gone fo good? I know that not eating

sugar is the main thing, but are other medications suggested as well? You guys

are a wealth of knowledge! Thanks, Gwen

Re: Re: -soy, used to be GFCF

,

I like how you think! You stated that beautifully! Candida is not just

something that is contained in the intestines. It has also been linked and

blamed for disorders like:

recurring yeast infections

thrush

melancholy

depression

anxiety

recurring irritability or mood swings

fatigue

lethargy

Fibromyalgia

Chronic Fatigue

autoimmune disorders

heartburn

indigestion

acid reflux; (gastro-esophageal reflux disease GERD)

irritable bowel syndrome (IBS)

dry, itchy, flaky skin

jock itch

acne or other skin problems

extreme food and environmental allergies

lactose intolerance

sinusitis

joint soreness

chest pain

cholesterol problems

headaches and migraines

recurring cystitis/vaginal yeast overgrowth/infections

premenstrual tension/menstrual problems

Most, not all, Md's do not even consider candida as the cause of these

disorders. Many people are tested for everything under the sun, with no DX and

no help. For those Md's that are aware of candida, medications are often

perscribed which does nothing but temporarily give relief....when meds are

stopped, conditions will come back....Not to mention the side affects that now

you experience from taking medications. Candida can be naturally treated, and

gone for good. You will find that once you body is in balance, your other

symptoms will disappear also.

Amy

cathylynn2 wrote:

Yeast overgrowth can definitely cause allergies. People with

dysregulated immune systems are particularly susceptible to chronic,

systemic yeast overgrowth. Many autistic children are particularly

vulnerable. Candida can eventually evolve from a yeast form into a

fungal form, and very long, root-like structures called rhizoids

puncture the intestinal lining, leading to leaky gut syndrome. This

creates holes in the digestive tract, allowing many foreign and toxic

substances to pass into the bloodstream. When undigested food

particles leak through these holes and enter the bloodstream, the

body views them as foreign invaders. The candida organisms that pass

through the blood stream have been found to produce over 70 known

toxins that will poison and strain the major organs in the body,

including the liver, kidneys, heart, colon, bladder, and central

nervous system. The ability to absorb and digest the necessary

nutrients from foods eaten is dramatically reduced.

Among the toxins produced is acetaldehyde, a poison that is converted

by the liver into alcohol. As alcohol builds up in the system,

symptoms associated with alcohol intoxication develop. This is why

one of the most common symptoms of candida is brain fog, confusion,

inappropriate laughter....almost like being drunk. The body's immune

system may also respond to candida toxins and food molecules in the

bloodstream with high histamine production. This in turn can result

in classic symptoms of allergies and food intolerances, and if left

untreated, can eventually lead to autoimmune disorders such as

arthritis, fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue syndrome, Crohn's disease or

colitis, diabetes, lupus, as well as many skin disorders.

> I think it's the other way around, allergies leading to candida, not

> candida leading to allergies. I don't know though, I haven't seen any

> research on cause/effect.

> Amnesty

>

>

>

>>

>> Thats correct! I just wondered if anyone thought that candida was

> the cause of allergies also...I do. I know it plays a huge role in our

> autistic childs cerebral allergies!

>> Amy

>>

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