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Hi Molly,

Well, I had heard that saunsa were benefifial too for a detox. I

still prefer the peroxide baths( 2cups of epsom salts to 2 bottles of

hydrogen peroxide. Soak 30 minutes and make it as hot as you can.Also

if you have jets, use them.

That should sped the process up for you too.Remember to drink a lot

of good water..bottled.

Also what worked for me wqas benedryl at the beginning as it helped

with the histiminee production that goes on.

Hang in there.The people here will make a difference to you

Love

Marge

> Hello. I'm Molly in Oregon, here from the Road Back BB. I have

RA, have been symptomatic for only about 6 months, and dx'd three

months ago. I have only been on Minocin for two weeks. So far,

everything's going along fine. I am able to control swelling and

pain with small doses of Advil twice a day; fatigue is my biggest

problem, but I still excercise at a gym two or three times a week.

My gym has a steam sauna. I have heard that saunas can be beneficial

in helping rid the body of toxins and I would love any information

anyone has on the subject. Could it perhaps hasten my recovery or

just make me feel better in a flare or a herx? Does any of you have

any personal experience with saunas and your disease?

> Thank you. Molly.

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I have been using saunas 4 or 5 times a week...very good results.

Also, have read Hubbards book " Clean Body, Clear Mind " and I think he

has some good info, except that the info on using Niacin to mobilize

detox from the fat cells..that thru me into overload. I suggest that

you go to cfspages.com, Jeff , who recovered from amalgam illness

and read his story. very good info.

Andy makes several reference to it in his book that are good. I have

not used the FIR saunas, but I have read several things positive and

negative about both.

In , " jill1313 " <jenbooks13@h...> wrote:

> I did a search on saunas and detox on this list but there were not

a

> lot of posts. At one point Andy said that an hour of sauna might

be

> equivalent to a dose of DMSA. Has anyone tried saunas for

> mercury/other detox? Following for instance the Ron Hubbard

> program? And I've heard mixed things about FIR. Some say its

better

> for mercury detox others say it is dangerous and can worsen you.

> Chemical chelators like DMSA and DMPS actually pull the mercury out

> of your cells and bind to it. I am wondering, if you use a sauna

to

> mobilize stuff--can you trust the wisdom of the body to know how to

> get it out OR if you were already vulnerable and never excreted

> mercury well (causing the problem in the first place), would you

> still have the same problem?

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Hi Sam,

Do you mean B3 made you worse. Is this true for niacinamide,too?What is the safe

dosage. I have been taking about 200 mg per day. Would you think this is risky?

Thanks.Nil

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I have been using saunas 4 or 5 times a week...very good results.

Also, have read Hubbards book " Clean Body, Clear Mind " and I think he

has some good info, except that the info on using Niacin to mobilize

detox from the fat cells..that thru me into overload. I suggest that

you go to cfspages.com, Jeff , who recovered from amalgam illness

and read his story. very good info.

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> Hi Sam,

>

> Do you mean B3 made you worse. Is this true for niacinamide,too?

What is the safe dosage. I have been taking about 200 mg per day.

Would you think this is risky?

Hi Nils:

Niacinamide, I think is the name of the B3 that they have taken the

flusing mechanism out of. I started taking flushing (niacin) about 3

years ago with consultation from the naturopath that I was working

with, and she suggested dosage ranges up to about 1000mg at a time.

That was before I became aware of the amalgam issue, and was working

on candida and cfids issues. I think it helped some.

In the last 9 months while having amalgams removed and starting

chelation I have used niacin maybe a dozen times before taking sauna,

and I believe that I still have too much mercury coming out and that

I am holding off till I have stopped chelating and then can go back

to some other general forms of body detoxes, like fasting, and will

be able to use niacin to assit with getting other things out of the

fat cells e.g. DDT, and other toxins that can affect overall immune

system.

I believe that regular sauna usage, 4 or 5 times a week, has been as

useful a tool as chelation to help draw out the large body pools of

mercury, and that as I get those reduced, saunas will still be

helpful, but at first, they have been a lifesaver. I guess I have

been using saunas pretty regular for about 15 years, and think they

are great, especially allowing one to cope in the first stages after

amalgam removal.

As generally outlined in Andy's book, I take a slew of vitamins and

minerals, including a standard B 100 complex that includes niacimide.

hope this helps.

sam

>

> Thanks.Nil

> [ ] Re: Saunas

>

>

> I have been using saunas 4 or 5 times a week...very good

results.

> Also, have read Hubbards book " Clean Body, Clear Mind " and I

think he

> has some good info, except that the info on using Niacin to

mobilize

> detox from the fat cells..that thru me into overload. I suggest

that

> you go to cfspages.com, Jeff , who recovered from amalgam

illness

> and read his story. very good info.

>

>

>

>

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Angie,

We live in a community where the Univ saunas are available to the

public so have been using them for a long time with little and big

children. I used to keep or babies(3-4 mon) in about 5 minutes to

begin. We would be able to stay 10-15 minutes with several shower

breaks as they got used to it. Red faced and fussy always told me to

stop. I go now with a mercury poisoned 19 year old who still does

not sweat well. We generally stay 30-40 minutes with several(3-4)

shower breaks. A cool towel over her head helps her sweat more. We

try to go 1-2x/wk school year/more in summer. I would go daily if I

had the time!!

> our DAN! doctor said sauna's were good with chelation but i didn't

ask how often to go and for how long each time. does anyone have any

advice? my dtr is 5 next month. angie

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Wondering what part of the 's protocal did you find

inappropriate for your situation? Was it the brand, timing,

supplementation?

Thanks,

Kari

> > the heat lamp

> > sauna (which I use) is mostly NEAR INFRARED.

>

> To make sure no one gets confused:

>

> I used a far infrared sauna last summer while following '

> inappropriate recommendations.

>

> I now use a DIFFERENT sauna, which uses heat lamps. In which, by

the

> way, I find that I need to wear eye protection.

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Has anyone used a sauna for RA and if so does it help? It is a

penetrating heat so.... it seems like it should help but I have never

seen any posts regarding them.

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Just come to the Midwest right now! Better than a sauna for

sweating!!

> >

> > I know infrared saunas are supposed to be better than traditional

dry

> > saunas. Has anybody had success using a traditional dry sauna?

I'm

> > interested in using a sauna to remove pesticides. My city is

full of

> > traditional sauna's, but the closest infrared sauna is an hour

away

> > which is not feasible for daily use. Is the only reason that

infrared

> > saunas are supposed to be better is that they are faster at

getting

> > the detoxing done?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Carolyn

>

>

> If you are mercury toxic, IR sauna can be a problem. Lots of

> discussion on this in the archives. Dry sauna is safer. You

> do need to be sure you can tolerate the heat.

>

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