Re: Re: The stupid thing .....capsules etc..

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Hi. You bring up a good issue about capsule and going to an expert in explantation like Feng. I agree those "pro-implant" PS probably will leave you without all the capsule gone. My concern is, as you well know I had my implants for over two weeks time, is that enough time to develop capsule? Funny thing is, I went to a couple PS recently who thought I still had implants in me (b/c I have volume) and they are a little "hard".I had to correct them and say that I was explanted.

What if anything do you make of it? As for my OR report, it states nothing about capsule removal. I didn't bother asking the PS about it b/c he's a dirt bag anyway and anything that comes out of his mouth--I have absolutely no faith in.

I don't have any symptoms of illness other than fatigue (I chalk this up to depression) and breast pain. I don't want to borrow trouble here, but I'd like some imput/feedback.

Thanks. Happy Valentines everyone.

-Marie

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Ok stay calm, first of all I would recommend the little stuff like 10

glasses of water a day, purified, filtered bottled of course. Then a diet of

fruits and veggies and keep things as natural as possible, these are simple

easy things to do, for more detailed detoxing go to www.plastikos.com and

click on the silicone immune protocol by Dr Kolb, you can do it as

much as possible, it is a tough undertaking, I don't stick to it 100% all

the time of course, I splurge, however if you can keep close to it as

possible that is the best way to go.

As for your capsules, I really don't want to scare you because not everyone

reacts to them the same way, but if you feel you are still not getting well

it may not hurt to look into a second opinion about it, Dr Feng removed

a's capsules 5 months or so after her implants were removed (her PS

lied to her ) so operative reports can be misleading. I suggest a call to

Feng and ask her what she thinks about it all. I know that she did a good

job on a and that she found black rotting capsule in her, however it

does not sound like you are as ill as I or Gabi so I don't know if this is

an issue, I just want you to know that it is something you may want to

consider, don't stress or freak out, but research it, check it out. Again,

don't panicky, if there is capsule, it can be removed, it will require more

surgery, I just know me personally I had allot of it, and it was a pain to

remove, that is why most PS's just don't bother, they think it doesn't

matter, this may be one reason that later on they can say, well it could

not have been the implants because they are gone and their patients are

still sick, if you dig deeper the truth is that the capsules are still

causing health issues, the body still attacks them and they are full of

stuff from the implants, so it could potentially be an issue, that is why I

always tell women to make sure to get it is writing ahead of time, use a

surgeon who is skilled at this and understand the importance of capsule

removal in symptomatic patients, maybe your PS didn't think you were

symptomatic, or whatever his reasoning is,but if he is a big implanting Doc

chances are he just doesn't get how important it is to get everything out. I

know it is tedious, my surgeon told me that it took hours to scrape that

garbage out of my chest wall esp. on the ribcage.

Did you have under the muscle implants? if so then you may have retained

posterior capsules, also Dr Kolb would help you too, she posts on here, so

you can ask her opinion on this I know she usually removes capsules as well.

Again, no freaking out, just stay calm, heal and do the detox, also you can

add fasting and enemas if you can handle that stuff, when you are stronger,

I think water and exercise are my best weapons in healing.

Good luck and keep us posted, I know we all care allot about you, these PS's

just don't seem to get it! It pisses me off so much! ARG

----- Original Message -----

From: " x01_trinity_x01 " <x01_trinity_x01@...>

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Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 11:23 AM

Subject: Re: The stupid thing .....capsules etc..

> ,

>

> I'll check out those links - thanks!

> I do believe the capsules were left inside me. I just called the

> nurse at my PS's office and she said its just scar tissue and will be

> re-absorbed by the body. When I started to ask about allergic

> reactions and breifly told her what I expereinced while I had them,

> she was in a hurry to get me off the phone. She is going to ask the

> doctor exactly what he did with the capsule, because my surgical

> report does not say in detail. Just that he removed the implants

> through an areolar incision, then made some kind if cut somewhere -

> blah, blah -- nothing definitive.

> Aren't surgical reports suppose to be a bit more detailed ??

> geesh - Oh, Tuesday the RN at mentor corp told me the casules come

> out with the implants because they usuallyare adheared to them

> anyway, is what she told me. That isn't right, obviously cause my

> PS's RN just told me something different!

>

> Okay - now what do I start detoxing with -- I need it short form or

> I will have a brain meltdown at this point! LOL

>

> thanks so much!!

> Trini

> xoxo

>

> > Hi Trin,

> >

> > I am so sorry for all of this that you have been through, your

> right about

> > one thing, to me the stuff your talking about I would call being

> sick, it

> > sounds more than just discomforts to me. I am very in tune with my

> body,

> > maybe some could have lived with the aches and pains and other

> garbage I

> > have had to deal with and sacrificed their health for implants, but

> not me,

> > no way. I think that the nurse is telling the truth in some ways,

> to some

> > extent, in that, many women do find relief immediately after

> explant, and

> > then go through a relapse of sorts, for me, it didn't work that

> way, I got

> > sicker right after explant, all the stress, toxins etc coming out,

> however,

> > then slowly I got relief over the next few months till I am where I

> am now,

> > which is still far from cured but mental fog is gone for sure. I do

> get

> > flares and I think that this is normal, we have messed with our

> bodies imune

> > sytstem which is a very fragile thing and takes time to heal, also

> I feel

> > that there can be lasting damage to some extent in some of us, but

> the main

> > reason I feel most women still remain sick get sicker, etc is

> retained

> > capsules. Please see the file and bookmark section of this website

> for info

> > on retained capsules. If you had or have a reaction to implants,

> and the

> > capsule is left inside(which is often times the case) and left to

> rot then,

> > you have a situation that can cause the same illness and symptoms to

> > continue on as if the implant was still there.

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I would def have the surgeon who does your mastopexy be an expert in the area of capsule removal just to be on the cautious side, it is possible there could be capsule, I am not sure but it is worth checking esp if you have fullness and pain, ya never know, I am not sure about how long it takes to develop capsule, this would be a good question for Dr Kolb.

Love,

----- Original Message -----

From: perlesetlacet@...

Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 6:01 PM

Subject: Re: Re: The stupid thing .....capsules etc..

:Hi. You bring up a good issue about capsule and going to an expert in explantation like Feng. I agree those "pro-implant" PS probably will leave you without all the capsule gone. My concern is, as you well know I had my implants for over two weeks time, is that enough time to develop capsule? Funny thing is, I went to a couple PS recently who thought I still had implants in me (b/c I have volume) and they are a little "hard".I had to correct them and say that I was explanted.What if anything do you make of it? As for my OR report, it states nothing about capsule removal. I didn't bother asking the PS about it b/c he's a dirt bag anyway and anything that comes out of his mouth--I have absolutely no faith in.I don't have any symptoms of illness other than fatigue (I chalk this up to depression) and breast pain. I don't want to borrow trouble here, but I'd like some imput/feedback.Thanks. Happy Valentines everyone.-Marie