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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I am no expert, but I was thinking maybe adding some weight lifting to your

program might be good. Not to bulk up, but to just add a little more muscle so

you'll be burning a few more calories. Congrats on your successes!!

oxox

Patti

>

>

>

> My name is , I've been with the group for awhile. My intention is to

share my story and invite feedback and evolution to myself and those who read.

My intention is to bring ease and joy to my fast weightloss journey and bring

fullness to the rest of my life. 

>

>

> I'm confused. I'm going through the 's manual tracking my three year

weight loss journey.

>

> When I started, I weighed 158 lbs. I ate compulsively, binged, and didn't

exercise regularly, and ate processed foods frequently including drive through.

Internally, I was a bitch to myself. 

>

> Then, in the summers, I've lost 11 lbs. each summer, then gained them back

quickly. Maybe this is the point of clearing I need to work on.  

>

>

> Now, I weigh 160. I have completed my 200 hr. yoga certification, I practice

qui gong, tai chi, and kung fe 3-4 times a week, run and walk regularly. I

meditate 3 days a week, and eat mostly organic foods. I feel better than I ever

have, and daily I deepen my sense of self-appreciation and love. I live in a

community dedicated to growth and we practice our craft of clearing techniques

daily and have a very strong supportive community. I feel very frustrated. I had

a a one-on-one session with . I feel close to my inward goals and it's just

frustrating to see that my weight has barley changed, though my body has made a

lot of progress; i'm more flexible, more energetic, better concentration, and in

general kinder to myself. I don't remember the last time I had a major blow out,

and when I did, I self-corrected in about a week, which the self-correcting is

continuing to become easier. 

>

>  Can you see anything I'm over-looking? How is this even possible that I have

gained more weight? I know that inside out weight loss the key. What am I

missing? Support? Feedback? Sharing a story? Help. 

>

> Yesterday, I was re-reading my intentions for my journey and noticed I talked

a lot about " I'll do what it takes " and they all sounded very hard. I reworked

my intention to this;

>

> I now make it my intent to experience ease and joy in my weight-loss journey

as I experience fullness in the rest of my life. I make it my intent for my

weight-loss to be fun and easy with the least amount of hardships. I now find

joy and happiness in the process of my weight-loss and being naturally slender

beginning now and continuing always. I make it my intent for the journey to be

as easy and simple as breathing. 

>

>

> Maybe changing my intention will help the weight slide right off. 

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

I honor your curiosity, questions are very useful to me.

I have to laugh several times reading this with heart, since I wrote my last

entry I stopped looking at the scale. I lost interest in it. My dedication the

success journey however, has increased. I see the truth in that! I was surprised

to realize that for years I spend using a scale to validate myself, haha!

" What would you tell ME if I wrote a list of accomplishments as long as my arm,

but felt frustrated because one little data point hadn't changed? "

I would laugh, like I am now, I would smile and think, " How cute " :] and

probably tell you to bask in your victory. Totally bask in it, just as you did.

I would probably suggest that you indulge in something you LOVE like a massage.

.... wow. I am going to contact my masseuse tomorrow... IM A CERTIFIED YOGA

INSTRUCTOR I haha!

" Actually, to my mind this is the biggest indicator of the progress you've made.

When you feel that way looking at BOTH pictures AND real-time reflections, it's

a sign that your internal image of yourself and your external self really

match. "

This is true. I have a endearing friend who is SO joyful and playful, happy and

confident and is heavy. Yet he is BEAUTIFUL! He knows he is sexy and he

defiantly is beautiful on the inside. So that statement has been validated in my

reality.

" what's different for you over the summers? Are you a teacher? A student? Or you

jusquestionst find lots of ways to be active in the summer and then go into

hibernation mode? "

These are useful questions.

In the summer, I spend a lot of time outside. each summer where I have easily

released oodles of weight have been working with children. I am so

incandescently joyful playing with children outside that I play away my excess

weight. And working with kids, there must be structure, so I ate at regular

intervals during the day. 3 times a day, maybe a snack. There was so much fun

and pleasure in my life, over eating and under exercising was not even a thing.

There were other things, certainly.

So that is summer camps. I recently got a job at a year round camp <3 so I'm

curious to see how that effects my level of passion in life.

Since last writing, I started the success journal.

I'm like a child right now, I'm just starting to figure out how to do this

naturally slender and using the readily stored energy on my body first and then

eating. I'm just remember how to listen to my body and give it the right fuel

and exactly how much. I'd LOVE to SEE faster progress in my body rather than the

stupid scale, and I find myself increasingly enjoying the journey. Another

victory. It's interesting and motivated.

So I'm falling down a good number of times, and that in itself is becoming more

amusing and informational as opposed to the self-deprecating ego trip that it

use to be. Yeah... yes that is another success indeed. Clever , now I'm

focusing on those victories ;] clever clever lady. <3

Blessings and fast, fun, and easy trails on your journey,

Kim

>

> Hi Kim,

>

> As usual, I don't have any answers--just more questions. Here's the one that

jumps out at me to start with:

>

> Why is the number on the scale important to you?

> " " Yet when I look in the mirror and see pictures of myself I look beautiful.

Sexy, I might even say! "

>

> It's quite likely that with all the physical activity you do, you are actually

smaller even though you get the same numbers on the scale. A pound of muscle

takes up less space than a pound of fat. So if by every other measure you are in

better shape, looking better, feeling better, but still the only measure you use

for " arrival " is your weight, you're severely limiting yourself....

>

> " I feel close to my inward goals and it's just frustrating to see that my

weight has barley changed, though my body has made a lot of progress;

> i'm more flexible, more energetic, better concentration, and in general

> kinder to myself "

>

> Kim, can you pretend I wrote those words, instead of just quoting them?

>

> What would you tell ME if I wrote a list of accomplishments as long as my arm,

but felt frustrated because one little data point hadn't changed?

>

> Please, please take some time today to just sit and feel proud that you've

achieved your yoga certification. Take some time tomorrow to revel in the fact

that you actually feel BEAUTIFUL when you look at pictures of yourself, or catch

a glimpse of yourself in the mirror. (Actually, to my mind this is the biggest

indicator of the progress you've made. When you feel that way looking at BOTH

pictures AND real-time reflections, it's a sign that your internal image of

yourself and your external self really match. In many ways, it's a bigger

success than actually achieving a certain number on the scale, or a certain size

on your jeans. Because it's so possible to have the opposite--be really skinny

and feel fat and ugly and worthless....)

>

> The other, more practical question I have is what's different for you over the

summers? Are you a teacher? A student? Or you jusquestionst find lots of ways to

be active in the summer and then go into hibernation mode? (OK, I guess that's

more like a set of....)

>

> May you continue to find pleasure in your reflection.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> >________________________________

> >

> >To: " insideoutweightloss "

<insideoutweightloss >

> >Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 11:12 PM

> >Subject: Question

> >

> >

> > 

> >

> >

> >________________________________

> >

> >To: " insideoutweightloss "

<insideoutweightloss >

> >Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 2:55 PM

> >Subject: Question

> >

> >My name is , I've been with the group for awhile. My intention is to

share my story and invite feedback and evolution to myself and those who read.

My intention is to bring ease and joy to my fast weightloss journey and bring

fullness to the rest of my life. 

> >

> >I'm confused. I'm going through the 's manual tracking my three year

weight loss journey.

> >

> >When I started, I weighed 158 lbs. I ate compulsively, binged, and didn't

exercise regularly, and ate processed foods frequently including drive through.

Internally, I was a bitch to myself. 

> >

> >Then, in the summers, I've lost 11 lbs. each summer down to 147, then gained

them back quickly. Maybe this is the point of clearing I need to work on.   At

one point 3 years ago, I weighed 132 and look fantastic, but didn't see myself

properly because I wanted to weight 128. And I was still a bitch to myself. 

> >

> >So now

> > I have completed my 200 hr. yoga certification, I practice qui gong, tai

chi, and kung fe 3-4 times a week, run and walk regularly. I meditate 3 days a

week, and eat mostly organic foods. I feel better than I ever have, and daily I

deepen my sense of self-appreciation and love. I live in a community dedicated

to growth and we practice our craft of clearing techniques daily and have a very

strong supportive community. I feel very frustrated. I had a a one-on-one

session with . I feel close to my inward goals and it's just frustrating to

see that my weight has barley changed, though my body has made a lot of

progress; i'm more flexible, more energetic, better concentration, and in

general kinder to myself. I don't remember the last time I had a major blow out,

and when I did, I self-corrected in about a week, which the self-correcting is

continuing to become easier. Now, I flux between 158- 160. I have an immediate

adverse reaction to the numbers

> >on the scale, I feel hopeless, frustrated and confused. So there is that to

clear.  Yet when I look in the mirror and see pictures of myself I look

beautiful. Sexy, I might even say! 

> >

> > Can you see anything I'm over-looking? How is this even possible that I

have gained more weight? I know that inside out weight loss the key. What am I

missing? Support? Feedback? Sharing your story? Help. 

> >

> >Yesterday, I was re-reading my intentions for my journey and noticed I talked

a lot about " I'll do what it takes " and they all sounded very hard. I reworked

my intention to this;

> >

> >I now make it my intent to experience ease and joy in my weight-loss journey

as I experience fullness in the rest of my life. I make it my intent for my

weight-loss to be fun and easy with the least amount of hardships. I now find

joy and happiness in the process of my weight-loss and being naturally slender

beginning now and continuing always. I make it my intent for the journey to be

as easy and simple as breathing. 

> >

> >Maybe changing my intention will help the weight slide right off. 

> >

> >Love you all 

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thank you for your support Patti, I agree that muscle toning will add to my

well-being :]

Blessings on your journey <3

> >

> >

> >

> > My name is , I've been with the group for awhile. My intention is to

share my story and invite feedback and evolution to myself and those who read.

My intention is to bring ease and joy to my fast weightloss journey and bring

fullness to the rest of my life. 

> >

> >

> > I'm confused. I'm going through the 's manual tracking my three year

weight loss journey.

> >

> > When I started, I weighed 158 lbs. I ate compulsively, binged, and didn't

exercise regularly, and ate processed foods frequently including drive through.

Internally, I was a bitch to myself. 

> >

> > Then, in the summers, I've lost 11 lbs. each summer, then gained them back

quickly. Maybe this is the point of clearing I need to work on.  

> >

> >

> > Now, I weigh 160. I have completed my 200 hr. yoga certification, I practice

qui gong, tai chi, and kung fe 3-4 times a week, run and walk regularly. I

meditate 3 days a week, and eat mostly organic foods. I feel better than I ever

have, and daily I deepen my sense of self-appreciation and love. I live in a

community dedicated to growth and we practice our craft of clearing techniques

daily and have a very strong supportive community. I feel very frustrated. I had

a a one-on-one session with . I feel close to my inward goals and it's just

frustrating to see that my weight has barley changed, though my body has made a

lot of progress; i'm more flexible, more energetic, better concentration, and in

general kinder to myself. I don't remember the last time I had a major blow out,

and when I did, I self-corrected in about a week, which the self-correcting is

continuing to become easier. 

> >

> >  Can you see anything I'm over-looking? How is this even possible that I

have gained more weight? I know that inside out weight loss the key. What am I

missing? Support? Feedback? Sharing a story? Help. 

> >

> > Yesterday, I was re-reading my intentions for my journey and noticed I

talked a lot about " I'll do what it takes " and they all sounded very hard. I

reworked my intention to this;

> >

> > I now make it my intent to experience ease and joy in my weight-loss journey

as I experience fullness in the rest of my life. I make it my intent for my

weight-loss to be fun and easy with the least amount of hardships. I now find

joy and happiness in the process of my weight-loss and being naturally slender

beginning now and continuing always. I make it my intent for the journey to be

as easy and simple as breathing. 

> >

> >

> > Maybe changing my intention will help the weight slide right off. 

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thank you for your support Patti, I agree that muscle toning will add to my

well-being :]

Blessings on your journey <3

> >

> >

> >

> > My name is , I've been with the group for awhile. My intention is to

share my story and invite feedback and evolution to myself and those who read.

My intention is to bring ease and joy to my fast weightloss journey and bring

fullness to the rest of my life. 

> >

> >

> > I'm confused. I'm going through the 's manual tracking my three year

weight loss journey.

> >

> > When I started, I weighed 158 lbs. I ate compulsively, binged, and didn't

exercise regularly, and ate processed foods frequently including drive through.

Internally, I was a bitch to myself. 

> >

> > Then, in the summers, I've lost 11 lbs. each summer, then gained them back

quickly. Maybe this is the point of clearing I need to work on.  

> >

> >

> > Now, I weigh 160. I have completed my 200 hr. yoga certification, I practice

qui gong, tai chi, and kung fe 3-4 times a week, run and walk regularly. I

meditate 3 days a week, and eat mostly organic foods. I feel better than I ever

have, and daily I deepen my sense of self-appreciation and love. I live in a

community dedicated to growth and we practice our craft of clearing techniques

daily and have a very strong supportive community. I feel very frustrated. I had

a a one-on-one session with . I feel close to my inward goals and it's just

frustrating to see that my weight has barley changed, though my body has made a

lot of progress; i'm more flexible, more energetic, better concentration, and in

general kinder to myself. I don't remember the last time I had a major blow out,

and when I did, I self-corrected in about a week, which the self-correcting is

continuing to become easier. 

> >

> >  Can you see anything I'm over-looking? How is this even possible that I

have gained more weight? I know that inside out weight loss the key. What am I

missing? Support? Feedback? Sharing a story? Help. 

> >

> > Yesterday, I was re-reading my intentions for my journey and noticed I

talked a lot about " I'll do what it takes " and they all sounded very hard. I

reworked my intention to this;

> >

> > I now make it my intent to experience ease and joy in my weight-loss journey

as I experience fullness in the rest of my life. I make it my intent for my

weight-loss to be fun and easy with the least amount of hardships. I now find

joy and happiness in the process of my weight-loss and being naturally slender

beginning now and continuing always. I make it my intent for the journey to be

as easy and simple as breathing. 

> >

> >

> > Maybe changing my intention will help the weight slide right off. 

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

That is probably right.  I kept seeing it like, when your kids are playing well

together and you want to go tell them what a great job they are doing, but then

you know they will immediately start fighting!  LOL!  But I bet you are right,

it just gets brought to the surface.

How does everyone deal with the news and young kids?  My dd is 10 and anything

she sees on the news, she becomes worried about.  I try to make sure she isnt

seeing the news, but dh doesnt, says she needs to be exposed to it.  I always

tell her whatever it was that happened was far, far, far away from here.  How

do others deal with it?

Sharon

________________________________

To:

Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 7:42 AM

Subject: Re: question

 

Thats intereesting - we have had that happen as well. My son is good at

avoiding things that trigger his OCD - perhaps when they are forced to

talk/bring it to the surface it creates anxiety. I guess its better to get it

out in the open and address it. It will come up eventually.

>

> My dd is 10 and has been doing GREAT since school started.  We had a therapy

appt just before school started and had our next one last week.  Since her

appt, she seems to be having a difficult time again.  It is like the appt

reminded her that she should be worrying.  Anyone else have this happen?? 

>

> Sharon

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

That is probably right.  I kept seeing it like, when your kids are playing well

together and you want to go tell them what a great job they are doing, but then

you know they will immediately start fighting!  LOL!  But I bet you are right,

it just gets brought to the surface.

How does everyone deal with the news and young kids?  My dd is 10 and anything

she sees on the news, she becomes worried about.  I try to make sure she isnt

seeing the news, but dh doesnt, says she needs to be exposed to it.  I always

tell her whatever it was that happened was far, far, far away from here.  How

do others deal with it?

Sharon

________________________________

To:

Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 7:42 AM

Subject: Re: question

 

Thats intereesting - we have had that happen as well. My son is good at

avoiding things that trigger his OCD - perhaps when they are forced to

talk/bring it to the surface it creates anxiety. I guess its better to get it

out in the open and address it. It will come up eventually.

>

> My dd is 10 and has been doing GREAT since school started.  We had a therapy

appt just before school started and had our next one last week.  Since her

appt, she seems to be having a difficult time again.  It is like the appt

reminded her that she should be worrying.  Anyone else have this happen?? 

>

> Sharon

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Our son was the same. . Mention it and things would flare.

I always found it to be a fine line. . .Not wanting things to flare, but not

wanting to protect too much either.

BJ

>

> My dd is 10 and has been doing GREAT since school started.  We had a therapy

appt just before school started and had our next one last week.  Since her appt,

she seems to be having a difficult time again.  It is like the appt reminded her

that she should be worrying.  Anyone else have this happen?? 

>

> Sharon

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Our son was the same. . Mention it and things would flare.

I always found it to be a fine line. . .Not wanting things to flare, but not

wanting to protect too much either.

BJ

>

> My dd is 10 and has been doing GREAT since school started.  We had a therapy

appt just before school started and had our next one last week.  Since her appt,

she seems to be having a difficult time again.  It is like the appt reminded her

that she should be worrying.  Anyone else have this happen?? 

>

> Sharon

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

The news is not good, especially nowadays. I know adults that stress out over

watching it.

And many news stations sensationalize everything, for ratings, so sometimes

things appear to be a bigger problem than they are.

Exposure is important. If you protect them too much, they won't learn how to

cope. Yet, there are some things that probably all kids aren't prepared to cope

with.

When our son was young, I limited how much he was exposed to, only involving him

in " big " news that he would hear elsewhere too.

Our son was 9 when 9/11 happened. I turned the TV off. The events happening

horrified me! I told him what was happening, but didn't let him watch it. The

visual of that would have been much harder for him to cope with. I knew others

would talk about it and he would hear it, so we discussed it. I think that was

an easier way for him to find out.

BJ

> >

> > My dd is 10 and has been doing GREAT since school started.  We had a

therapy appt just before school started and had our next one last week.  Since

her appt, she seems to be having a difficult time again.  It is like the appt

reminded her that she should be worrying.  Anyone else have this happen?? 

> >

> > Sharon

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

The news is not good, especially nowadays. I know adults that stress out over

watching it.

And many news stations sensationalize everything, for ratings, so sometimes

things appear to be a bigger problem than they are.

Exposure is important. If you protect them too much, they won't learn how to

cope. Yet, there are some things that probably all kids aren't prepared to cope

with.

When our son was young, I limited how much he was exposed to, only involving him

in " big " news that he would hear elsewhere too.

Our son was 9 when 9/11 happened. I turned the TV off. The events happening

horrified me! I told him what was happening, but didn't let him watch it. The

visual of that would have been much harder for him to cope with. I knew others

would talk about it and he would hear it, so we discussed it. I think that was

an easier way for him to find out.

BJ

> >

> > My dd is 10 and has been doing GREAT since school started.  We had a

therapy appt just before school started and had our next one last week.  Since

her appt, she seems to be having a difficult time again.  It is like the appt

reminded her that she should be worrying.  Anyone else have this happen?? 

> >

> > Sharon

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I guess I just try to protect her so much.  She does need to be exposed, and

will hear about some stories elsewhere. 

Sharon

________________________________

To:

Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 10:47 AM

Subject: Re: question

 

The news is not good, especially nowadays. I know adults that stress out over

watching it.

And many news stations sensationalize everything, for ratings, so sometimes

things appear to be a bigger problem than they are.

Exposure is important. If you protect them too much, they won't learn how to

cope. Yet, there are some things that probably all kids aren't prepared to cope

with.

When our son was young, I limited how much he was exposed to, only involving him

in " big " news that he would hear elsewhere too.

Our son was 9 when 9/11 happened. I turned the TV off. The events happening

horrified me! I told him what was happening, but didn't let him watch it. The

visual of that would have been much harder for him to cope with. I knew others

would talk about it and he would hear it, so we discussed it. I think that was

an easier way for him to find out.

BJ

> >

> > My dd is 10 and has been doing GREAT since school started.  We had a

therapy appt just before school started and had our next one last week. 

Since her appt, she seems to be having a difficult time again.  It is like

the appt reminded her that she should be worrying.  Anyone else have this

happen?? 

> >

> > Sharon

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Her therapist suggested schedule a couple off appts, 3-6 weeks part, but I am

worried to do it.  She has done great since right after school started.  I

know we could have a challenging time again, but I feel like, right now, having

her go to therapy might just make things worse.   I guess I will wait and

see.  I can always schedule something rather quickly, if need be.

Sharon

________________________________

To:

Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 10:37 AM

Subject: Re: question

 

Our son was the same. . Mention it and things would flare.

I always found it to be a fine line. . .Not wanting things to flare, but not

wanting to protect too much either.

BJ

>

> My dd is 10 and has been doing GREAT since school started.  We had a therapy

appt just before school started and had our next one last week.  Since her

appt, she seems to be having a difficult time again.  It is like the appt

reminded her that she should be worrying.  Anyone else have this happen?? 

>

> Sharon

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

It's hard, I know. :~(

We want to protect them from life and make things easier. I did that for years,

but our son's therapist explained to me that if I didn't let him be exposed to

things, how was he going to learn to overcome his anxiety about it?! It was a

good point.

I think it is a balance though. . You can't throw them into taking on everything

at once or they can meltdown. Baby steps, gaining confidence as they go, just

like when they take on their hierarchy lists for ERP.

BJ

> > >

> > > My dd is 10 and has been doing GREAT since school started.  We had a

therapy appt just before school started and had our next one last week. 

Since her appt, she seems to be having a difficult time again.  It is like

the appt reminded her that she should be worrying.  Anyone else have this

happen?? 

> > >

> > > Sharon

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

My son hates going to CBT....he will start days before saying I don't want to

go. I guess it makes him think more about the OCD and flares things

> >

> > My dd is 10 and has been doing GREAT since school started.  We had a therapy

appt just before school started and had our next one last week.  Since her appt,

she seems to be having a difficult time again.  It is like the appt reminded her

that she should be worrying.  Anyone else have this happen?? 

> >

> > Sharon

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

For my son, increase in intensity and number of rituals was due to his

increased anxiety. For him, the trigger was a change from a 4 period day to

a 7 period day at the HS. We increased his Fluoxetine and added Busbar.

Also this term, added a resource at HS, made sure his academic teachers

were a good match, and arranged schedule to include all morning tech

classes/aft. academic. His therapist worked with him on eliminating one

ritual at a time. His big brother is home too (having his own mental health

crisis) and in a strange twist of fate, this has helped his confidence as

he is the stronger one at this time. Hope this helps.

> **

>

>

> Hi all,

> Just wondering if anyone has advice on breaking rituals that seem to keep

> appearing more and more? I feel like everything has turned into a ritual.

> Does that mean it is getting more severe? She has so many rules. What do u

> do to address them? This damn OCD is taking over help!!

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

> On Mar 9, 2012, at 9:13 AM, " dabev410 "

> wrote:

>

> > Another vote on writing the curse words. We tried a number of exposures

> for my 12 year old daughter whose scrupulosity focused on every possible

> swear word. We tried recorded scripts that she listened to, to bore her

> OCD, with little success, but then started a notebook. Each evening's

> exercise was to write the " worst " word (of the day) over and over again.

> Goal was to fill the page, and kind of record in the margin when she got

> over the hill on the word. So if she started at a 7, she could stop writing

> when she got to a 4. We progressively added more (or new) words until curse

> words in general were significantly lowered as bothersome. They crop back

> up every now and again, but we know that exercise works. We have quite a

> few interesting binders in the house but this really works for us, it's

> boring to write the words over and over again. Her stream was much like

> your son's - she worried that is she said the word, we would judge that she

> did something " bad " or wrong, be angry and she would feel guilty. Her OCD

> is all about guilt - keeping that neutral stance (i.e. shrugging on the

> curse words) helps - keep trying! And ask your son what he thinks helps

> more!!!

> >

> >

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks again, for all of the support. The reason I am sitting with

> him during homework is because if I don't he will not do it. He will erase

> repeatedly, avoid, or just sit there with a blank piece of paper. He does

> not seem able to do it unless my husband or I are sitting next to him. As

> for the curse words, ummmm....honestly, I have a potty mouth. Hey, I'm from

> Brooklyn- it's cultural;)! It's really the scrupulosity behind the curse

> words that are at the root of the thoughts...he needs to confess and feels

> guilt ridden for having the thoughts. I am pretty neutral in my reaction- I

> tell him

> > > >

> > >

> >

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She is only 7 yrs old so I am just dealing with home issues at this point. I

am a special education coordinator so I know what I will be up against.

Sent from my iPhone

> For my son, increase in intensity and number of rituals was due to his

> increased anxiety. For him, the trigger was a change from a 4 period day to

> a 7 period day at the HS. We increased his Fluoxetine and added Busbar.

> Also this term, added a resource at HS, made sure his academic teachers

> were a good match, and arranged schedule to include all morning tech

> classes/aft. academic. His therapist worked with him on eliminating one

> ritual at a time. His big brother is home too (having his own mental health

> crisis) and in a strange twist of fate, this has helped his confidence as

> he is the stronger one at this time. Hope this helps.

>

>

>

>> **

>>

>>

>> Hi all,

>> Just wondering if anyone has advice on breaking rituals that seem to keep

>> appearing more and more? I feel like everything has turned into a ritual.

>> Does that mean it is getting more severe? She has so many rules. What do u

>> do to address them? This damn OCD is taking over help!!

>>

>> Sent from my iPhone

>>

>> On Mar 9, 2012, at 9:13 AM, " dabev410 "

>> wrote:

>>

>>> Another vote on writing the curse words. We tried a number of exposures

>> for my 12 year old daughter whose scrupulosity focused on every possible

>> swear word. We tried recorded scripts that she listened to, to bore her

>> OCD, with little success, but then started a notebook. Each evening's

>> exercise was to write the " worst " word (of the day) over and over again.

>> Goal was to fill the page, and kind of record in the margin when she got

>> over the hill on the word. So if she started at a 7, she could stop writing

>> when she got to a 4. We progressively added more (or new) words until curse

>> words in general were significantly lowered as bothersome. They crop back

>> up every now and again, but we know that exercise works. We have quite a

>> few interesting binders in the house but this really works for us, it's

>> boring to write the words over and over again. Her stream was much like

>> your son's - she worried that is she said the word, we would judge that she

>> did something " bad " or wrong, be angry and she would feel guilty. Her OCD

>> is all about guilt - keeping that neutral stance (i.e. shrugging on the

>> curse words) helps - keep trying! And ask your son what he thinks helps

>> more!!!

>>>

>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Thanks again, for all of the support. The reason I am sitting with

>> him during homework is because if I don't he will not do it. He will erase

>> repeatedly, avoid, or just sit there with a blank piece of paper. He does

>> not seem able to do it unless my husband or I are sitting next to him. As

>> for the curse words, ummmm....honestly, I have a potty mouth. Hey, I'm from

>> Brooklyn- it's cultural;)! It's really the scrupulosity behind the curse

>> words that are at the root of the thoughts...he needs to confess and feels

>> guilt ridden for having the thoughts. I am pretty neutral in my reaction- I

>> tell him

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

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She is only 7 yrs old so I am just dealing with home issues at this point. I

am a special education coordinator so I know what I will be up against.

Sent from my iPhone

> For my son, increase in intensity and number of rituals was due to his

> increased anxiety. For him, the trigger was a change from a 4 period day to

> a 7 period day at the HS. We increased his Fluoxetine and added Busbar.

> Also this term, added a resource at HS, made sure his academic teachers

> were a good match, and arranged schedule to include all morning tech

> classes/aft. academic. His therapist worked with him on eliminating one

> ritual at a time. His big brother is home too (having his own mental health

> crisis) and in a strange twist of fate, this has helped his confidence as

> he is the stronger one at this time. Hope this helps.

>

>

>

>> **

>>

>>

>> Hi all,

>> Just wondering if anyone has advice on breaking rituals that seem to keep

>> appearing more and more? I feel like everything has turned into a ritual.

>> Does that mean it is getting more severe? She has so many rules. What do u

>> do to address them? This damn OCD is taking over help!!

>>

>> Sent from my iPhone

>>

>> On Mar 9, 2012, at 9:13 AM, " dabev410 "

>> wrote:

>>

>>> Another vote on writing the curse words. We tried a number of exposures

>> for my 12 year old daughter whose scrupulosity focused on every possible

>> swear word. We tried recorded scripts that she listened to, to bore her

>> OCD, with little success, but then started a notebook. Each evening's

>> exercise was to write the " worst " word (of the day) over and over again.

>> Goal was to fill the page, and kind of record in the margin when she got

>> over the hill on the word. So if she started at a 7, she could stop writing

>> when she got to a 4. We progressively added more (or new) words until curse

>> words in general were significantly lowered as bothersome. They crop back

>> up every now and again, but we know that exercise works. We have quite a

>> few interesting binders in the house but this really works for us, it's

>> boring to write the words over and over again. Her stream was much like

>> your son's - she worried that is she said the word, we would judge that she

>> did something " bad " or wrong, be angry and she would feel guilty. Her OCD

>> is all about guilt - keeping that neutral stance (i.e. shrugging on the

>> curse words) helps - keep trying! And ask your son what he thinks helps

>> more!!!

>>>

>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Thanks again, for all of the support. The reason I am sitting with

>> him during homework is because if I don't he will not do it. He will erase

>> repeatedly, avoid, or just sit there with a blank piece of paper. He does

>> not seem able to do it unless my husband or I are sitting next to him. As

>> for the curse words, ummmm....honestly, I have a potty mouth. Hey, I'm from

>> Brooklyn- it's cultural;)! It's really the scrupulosity behind the curse

>> words that are at the root of the thoughts...he needs to confess and feels

>> guilt ridden for having the thoughts. I am pretty neutral in my reaction- I

>> tell him

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

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I could not break the rituals. he needed to go thru them to ease the anxiety.

Some of that is gone now and he did it on his own.

Pam L.

[Guest guest]

My son's therapist had told us that rituals beget more rituals. So it is

important to break the cycle. I'm not sure if you are seeing a therapist who

specialized in OCD, but I would suggest it. My son's rituals were/are mostly

thoughts. He had to say phrases a certain way in his head to correct the bad

thoughts he had. We worked on that with a specialist.

>

> Hi all,

> Just wondering if anyone has advice on breaking rituals that seem to keep

appearing more and more? I feel like everything has turned into a ritual. Does

that mean it is getting more severe? She has so many rules. What do u do to

address them? This damn OCD is taking over help!!

>

[Guest guest]

Is she in therapy and/or on a med? Those first months after 's OCD

began, stuff popped up a lot; some things stayed, others went, something new pop

up....eventually things settled. Later if he was sick or added stress, some

things could increase or have new pop up for a few weeks.

Quick thoughts,

>

> Hi all,

> Just wondering if anyone has advice on breaking rituals that seem to keep

appearing more and more? I feel like everything has turned into a ritual. Does

that mean it is getting more severe? She has so many rules. What do u do to

address them? This damn OCD is taking over help!!

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

>

[Guest guest]

I knew I could count you to reply:) she is in therapy. Together they are

working through the book what to do when your brain gets stuck. She explained to

my daughter what OCD is and the tricks it plays. Then they will talk about

tools. Does that sound appropriate in treatment? It's hard because she is only

7. Can anyone tell me what their child does in therapy at this age? I am going

to look into meds as she is consumed by these rituals

Sent from my iPhone

> Is she in therapy and/or on a med? Those first months after 's OCD

began, stuff popped up a lot; some things stayed, others went, something new pop

up....eventually things settled. Later if he was sick or added stress, some

things could increase or have new pop up for a few weeks.

>

> Quick thoughts,

>

>

>

> >

> > Hi all,

> > Just wondering if anyone has advice on breaking rituals that seem to keep

appearing more and more? I feel like everything has turned into a ritual. Does

that mean it is getting more severe? She has so many rules. What do u do to

address them? This damn OCD is taking over help!!

> >

> > Sent from my iPhone

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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I knew I could count you to reply:) she is in therapy. Together they are

working through the book what to do when your brain gets stuck. She explained to

my daughter what OCD is and the tricks it plays. Then they will talk about

tools. Does that sound appropriate in treatment? It's hard because she is only

7. Can anyone tell me what their child does in therapy at this age? I am going

to look into meds as she is consumed by these rituals

Sent from my iPhone

> Is she in therapy and/or on a med? Those first months after 's OCD

began, stuff popped up a lot; some things stayed, others went, something new pop

up....eventually things settled. Later if he was sick or added stress, some

things could increase or have new pop up for a few weeks.

>

> Quick thoughts,

>

>

>

> >

> > Hi all,

> > Just wondering if anyone has advice on breaking rituals that seem to keep

appearing more and more? I feel like everything has turned into a ritual. Does

that mean it is getting more severe? She has so many rules. What do u do to

address them? This damn OCD is taking over help!!

> >

> > Sent from my iPhone

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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Steffles- how old is your son? What sorts I things does he do in therapy to

eliminate the rituals?

Sent from my iPhone

> My son's therapist had told us that rituals beget more rituals. So it is

important to break the cycle. I'm not sure if you are seeing a therapist who

specialized in OCD, but I would suggest it. My son's rituals were/are mostly

thoughts. He had to say phrases a certain way in his head to correct the bad

thoughts he had. We worked on that with a specialist.

>

>

> >

> > Hi all,

> > Just wondering if anyone has advice on breaking rituals that seem to keep

appearing more and more? I feel like everything has turned into a ritual. Does

that mean it is getting more severe? She has so many rules. What do u do to

address them? This damn OCD is taking over help!!

> >

>

>

>

>

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Steffles- how old is your son? What sorts I things does he do in therapy to

eliminate the rituals?

Sent from my iPhone

> My son's therapist had told us that rituals beget more rituals. So it is

important to break the cycle. I'm not sure if you are seeing a therapist who

specialized in OCD, but I would suggest it. My son's rituals were/are mostly

thoughts. He had to say phrases a certain way in his head to correct the bad

thoughts he had. We worked on that with a specialist.

>

>

> >

> > Hi all,

> > Just wondering if anyone has advice on breaking rituals that seem to keep

appearing more and more? I feel like everything has turned into a ritual. Does

that mean it is getting more severe? She has so many rules. What do u do to

address them? This damn OCD is taking over help!!

> >

>

>

>

>

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The therapy sounds on track. Are they talking in general or more specific to

some of her rituals? She needs " tools " to use for whichever ritual(s) she is

working on bossing back, i.e., did they pick out 2 or 3 rituals to work on?

Having to work on things can cause OCD to increase but that shouldn't last....

>

> I knew I could count you to reply:) she is in therapy. Together they are

working through the book what to do when your brain gets stuck. She explained to

my daughter what OCD is and the tricks it plays. Then they will talk about

tools. Does that sound appropriate in treatment? It's hard because she is only

7. Can anyone tell me what their child does in therapy at this age? I am going

to look into meds as she is consumed by these rituals

>

>