Re: GLA needed with cod liver oil supplementation?

October 25, 2004

I react to both raw milk products and the pasteurized stuff. I was

getting my raw milk from committed WAP'ers who never gave the cows

grain. I got the eggs from the same source, so, of course, they

were free range.

> > > Ditto here too! My 100% breast fed son had blood in his stool,

> >spit up

> > > every time he nursed and had GERD. All of this subsided or

> >improved when I

> > > was taken off all dairy by my pediatrician. It was hard for

me,

> >but well

> > > worth the efforts. His colic also subsided.

> > >

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> > > Re: GLA needed with cod liver oil

supplementation?

> > >

> > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > From: " clzdawson "

> > >

> > > She hasn't been vaccinated - and won't be.

> > >

> > > She's allergic to milk and so I can't give her the raw milk

> > > products. I'm still nursing her. >>

> > >

> > > Are *you* gf/cf? If not, there's a possibility that these

> >proteins are

> > > crossing the barrier and she's getting them through you. I

see a

> >difference

> > > in my nurslings when *my* diet is out of compliance with our

> >allergens and I

> > > have seen in ours and other families that gluten can create

FTT in

> >children.

> > >

> > > --s

> > >

October 25, 2004

Tas',

You didn't mention that those should be RAW fats...most people are deficient

in fats (that's why dry hair, chapped lips, constipation, and a whole lot

more!)... in autistic children it is generally the heavy metals or other

chemicals in their bodies causing the problems, and Raw fat will bind to

those toxins and carry them out of the body AND lubricate the body so it

works properly (much like a car needing clean oil).

>http://www.bbbautism.com/dan_mcginnis_2.htm

>

>... In behavioral children the chemical co-factors needed for this

>manufacturing process - Zinc, Magnesium, Vitamin B6 low toxin levels - are

>often suboptimal, so just giving the precursor oils may not be enough to

>boost EPA, DHA, and GLA sufficiently. Further, the dietary intake of

>essential fatty acids may need to be higher in autistic children because of

>their tendency to malabsorb fats...

>

>Cheers,

>Tas'.

>

October 25, 2004

for GLA, instead of oatmeal, try grass fed beef... lots of it there

naturally, the way God intended it.

> > Similar issue addressed by Fran Mc Cullough in The Good Fat Cookbook.

>She

> > says omega 3's can slightly depress immune system. Benefits can

>outweigh

> > that but to avoid the decrease Barry Sears adds small amounts of GLA

>which

> > is equal to two small bowls of slow cooked oatmeal a week. Every

>morning is

> > too much. For us gfers looks like fish oil or other GLA containing

>oils.

> > Does your daughter bruise easily? Bruce Fife says sign of excess omega

>3 in

> > this book. My youngest daughter was in low percentile, went higher and

>will

> > be lowest in teens now right through. No women in my husband's family

>are

> > over 5 ft. and 100 lbs. I'm 5' 2 " and 20 lbs. more.

>____

>

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October 25, 2004

That's okay, I forget a lot with the three I have! LOL. As for slow

growth... do you give her raw milk? Try adding extra raw fat and eggs....

And ask God, maybe she'll catch up later!

L.

>

>It just occurred to me that I need to clear up something from my

>first post on this. My 18 mo old is not autistic. She's doing

>great outside of slow physical growth. I have 2 sons on the autism

>spectrum. I have 5 children total and I forget that other people

>don't know that...but, hey, with 5 kids I forget a lot of stuff.

>

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October 25, 2004

you didn't mention www.mercola.com in your list! Tons of great information.

>

>Here are some websites for you to look at:

>http://kidstalkback.tripod.com/kidstalkback/id13.html

>http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/products/fatty_acids/pro_efa/ProEFA_C_90_Spec821.htm\

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>http://kidstalkback.tripod.com/halleysonlinediary/id16.html

>http://bbs.babycenter.com/board/toddler/toddlerdevelopment/1143871/thread/14597\

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>http://www.gsdl.com/assessments/finddisease/autism/fatty_acids.html

>http://autism.about.com/library/weekly/aa051502b.htm

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October 25, 2004

In a message dated 10/25/04 9:33:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

s.fisher22@... writes:

> I think these docs don't want *AA* since it's a precursor to

> pro-inflammatory prostaglandins, but they want GLA for it's *anti*

> inflammatory properties. Obviously, we need a balance, but I think *their*

> emphasis is on anti-inflammatory fatty acids. Do you know if there's GLA in

> butter or butter oil, or only aa?

____

~~~~> Going back to my original point, it's DGLA, not GLA that is a precursor

to anti-inflammatory hormones. GLA is a precursor to DGLA, which, in turn,

is a precursor to AA. GLA cannot be selectively anti-inflammatory, since it is

a precursor to both. Organ meats are high in DGLA. I'm not sure about

butter oil.

Chris

____

" What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion? It is a

heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and

animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of them

make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense compassion,

which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to bear the sight of

the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature. Thus they pray

ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the truth, and for

those

who do them wrong. "

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October 25, 2004

In a message dated 10/25/04 6:32:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

msgrowit@... writes:

> What is GLA?

___

~~~~> gamma-linoleic acid, an omega-6 fatty acid.

Chris

____

" What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion? It is a

heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and

animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of them

make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense compassion,

which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to bear the sight of

the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature. Thus they pray

ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the truth, and for

those

who do them wrong. "

--Saint Isaac the Syrian

October 25, 2004

Okay, my last suggestion is to eat more raw fat! Juicing a coconut really

isn't that hard!

L.

>

>I react to both raw milk products and the pasteurized stuff. I was

>getting my raw milk from committed WAP'ers who never gave the cows

>grain. I got the eggs from the same source, so, of course, they

>were free range.

>

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October 25, 2004

That multiple would be times the height by 2 when they are three....

wow, am I going to have tall boys! I guess I'll be the dwarf (at 5' 6 " ) in

the family when they grow up!

> >

>This is pretty interesting on a personal note! My parents learned a way

>to predict probable future height for children when I was little (as I

>recall, it was a specific multiple of the child's height at about age

>3), >victoria b.

>

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October 25, 2004

Check out primaldiet.com for your new research. Aajonus Vonderplanitz's

books are excellent. The small shifts we have made in our diet have had some

miraculous results. And allergies is the next thing I'm tackling...wish me

luck!

>The issue is, IgA allergies stick for life, the other ones might go away.

>And the IgA allergies have these intense health consequences, and

>no on knows what amount of the allergen is " safe " to " get away with " . The

>IgA stuff

>can be and usually is without symptoms, but if you do have an IgA

>allergy it impacts your immune system, and often the neurological

>system. I'm hoping some good research comes along in the

>next years ...

>

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In a message dated 10/25/04 7:56:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

jturtlesmom@... writes:

> Based on 8 years of looking for answers, and reading medical

> studies...combined with common sense, a bit of intelligence, and gut

> instinct (which has never steered me wrong).

____

~~~~> Is that the kind of instinct you acquire from eating guts, or is that

something else?

Chris

____

" What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion? It is a

heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and

animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of them

make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense compassion,

which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to bear the sight of

the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature. Thus they pray

ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the truth, and for