Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 this may be where he is experimenting with lang. we went through this to GET to lang. have you tried vit A incase he has some viruses being stirred, you mentioned OLE which stirs viral issues, vit A helps the body still have what it needs with the viruses eating it up and can get rid of verbal and visual stimming with them moving Recovering from Autism is a marathon NOT a sprint, but FULLY possible! Read more about it on my Blogs athttp://www.myspace.com/christelking Verbal stimming - bad sign or good sign? Dear All, (going to 5 years now) is having lots of verbal stimming lately, dont know if this is called verbal stimming. But he bubble a lot (with some gestures, he love to watch himself in front of mirror while doing it), mostly copy the talks in the movie, seems like he is trying to immitate their talk. Even when he wake up in the middle of the nite, he talk for 1 hour and I pushed him back to sleep. He sometimes sound like he is singing, but since his verbal is not really good, I cant identify wht song does he sing if he is really singing. He loves barney, elmo, and lately winnie the pooh. He did this bubbling all day long, sometimes I catch the words of "where did it go... are you sure (like babybop)". He is on antifungal rotation (from brainchild) - 3rd round, still have stomachache, little bit of bloating, and doing well behaviourwise, good eye contact. well he did have some emotional outburst last week and I expect tht due to I increase his OLE dosage (he did behave like that the same when I first give him OLE, but that bad things with tantrum, emotional outburst, mood swing only last about 1-2 weeks). The question is, whether this verbal stimming is a GOOD sign or BAD one? I'm desperately trying to get him over his echolalia stage which I dont know until when and how to do it. He has been in sound immitation / echolalia since last May 2007. Seems like I need to use ABA instead of floortime to push him for the concept of communication.. I also gave him Acetyl L carnitine last week, may be this boost the verbal stimming? Any ideas will be appreciated.. Thanks. Yuliana No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1213 - Release Date: 1/7/2008 9:14 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Hi Yuliana, My son did alot of baby talk like babbling, verbal scripting (from TV) and echolalia. I put him on Glutathione after reading that it stimulated the speach centers of the brain. I've since learned what a powerful anti-oxident Glutathione is, and how important it is in the methylation cycle. I got mine from Kirkman. It comes in capsule form. I just put the powder in applesauce and he takes it no problem. I started him on 1 cap per day and now give 2 (1 morning, 1 evening). I immediately noticed a positive change in his speech with Glutathione. He has dropped 99% of the babbling, doesn't verbally script and has dropped about 85% of the echolalia. He just turned 3 and in my opinion speaks appropriately, although he talks more like a barely 2 year old than a barely 3 year old, but he's improving every day. Kim --- Yuliana Dewi wrote: > Dear All, > > (going to 5 years now) is having lots of > verbal stimming lately, dont know if this is > called verbal stimming. But he bubble a lot > (with some gestures, he love to watch himself > in front of mirror while doing it), mostly copy > the talks in the movie, seems like he is trying > to immitate their talk. Even when he wake up in > the middle of the nite, he talk for 1 hour and > I pushed him back to sleep. He sometimes sound > like he is singing, but since his verbal is not > really good, I cant identify wht song does he > sing if he is really singing. He loves barney, > elmo, and lately winnie the pooh. He did this > bubbling all day long, sometimes I catch the > words of " where did it go... are you sure (like > babybop) " . He is on antifungal rotation (from > brainchild) - 3rd round, still have > stomachache, little bit of bloating, and doing > well behaviourwise, good eye contact. well he > did have some emotional outburst last week and > I expect tht due to I increase his OLE dosage > (he did behave like that the same when I first > give him OLE, but that bad things with tantrum, > emotional outburst, mood swing only last about > 1-2 weeks). > > The question is, whether this verbal stimming > is a GOOD sign or BAD one? > > I'm desperately trying to get him over his > echolalia stage which I dont know until when > and how to do it. He has been in sound > immitation / echolalia since last May 2007. > Seems like I need to use ABA instead of > floortime to push him for the concept of > communication.. > > I also gave him Acetyl L carnitine last week, > may be this boost the verbal stimming? > > Any ideas will be appreciated.. > Thanks. > > Yuliana ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Hi our Dan Dr gave us compounded glutathione cream to put on our sons feet. She said the lotion utilizes in the body better than oral glutathione. I wonder if you tried both? Nice to here a success story Re: Verbal stimming - bad sign or good sign? Hi Yuliana,My son did alot of baby talk like babbling,verbal scripting (from TV) and echolalia. I puthim on Glutathione after reading that itstimulated the speach centers of the brain.I've since learned what a powerful anti-oxidentGlutathione is, and how important it is in themethylation cycle.I got mine from Kirkman. It comes in capsuleform. I just put the powder in applesauce and hetakes it no problem. I started him on 1 cap perday and now give 2 (1 morning, 1 evening).I immediately noticed a positive change in hisspeech with Glutathione. He has dropped 99% ofthe babbling, doesn't verbally script and hasdropped about 85% of the echolalia. He justturned 3 and in my opinion speaks appropriately,although he talks more like a barely 2 year oldthan a barely 3 year old, but he's improvingevery day.Kim --- Yuliana Dewi <yuliana-dewi@ jssjakarta. co.id>wrote:> Dear All,> > (going to 5 years now) is having lots of> verbal stimming lately, dont know if this is> called verbal stimming. But he bubble a lot> (with some gestures, he love to watch himself> in front of mirror while doing it), mostly copy> the talks in the movie, seems like he is trying> to immitate their talk. Even when he wake up in> the middle of the nite, he talk for 1 hour and> I pushed him back to sleep. He sometimes sound> like he is singing, but since his verbal is not> really good, I cant identify wht song does he> sing if he is really singing. He loves barney,> elmo, and lately winnie the pooh. He did this> bubbling all day long, sometimes I catch the> words of "where did it go... are you sure (like> babybop)". He is on antifungal rotation (from> brainchild) - 3rd round, still have> stomachache, little bit of bloating, and doing> well behaviourwise, good eye contact. well he> did have some emotional outburst last week and> I expect tht due to I increase his OLE dosage> (he did behave like that the same when I first> give him OLE, but that bad things with tantrum,> emotional outburst, mood swing only last about> 1-2 weeks).> > The question is, whether this verbal stimming> is a GOOD sign or BAD one?> > I'm desperately trying to get him over his> echolalia stage which I dont know until when> and how to do it. He has been in sound> immitation / echolalia since last May 2007.> Seems like I need to use ABA instead of> floortime to push him for the concept of> communication. .> > I also gave him Acetyl L carnitine last week,> may be this boost the verbal stimming?> > Any ideas will be appreciated. .> Thanks.> > Yuliana____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile. yahoo.com/ ;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR 8HDtDypao8Wcj9tA cJ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Thanks , I haven't tried the lotion. I will though, next time I place an order. Kim --- Largey wrote: > Hi our Dan Dr gave us compounded glutathione > cream to put on our sons feet. She said the > lotion utilizes in the body better than oral > glutathione. I wonder if you tried both? Nice > to here a success story > > > Re: Verbal stimming - > bad sign or good sign? > > Hi Yuliana, > > My son did alot of baby talk like babbling, > verbal scripting (from TV) and echolalia. I put > him on Glutathione after reading that it > stimulated the speach centers of the brain. > > I've since learned what a powerful anti-oxident > Glutathione is, and how important it is in the > methylation cycle. > > I got mine from Kirkman. It comes in capsule > form. I just put the powder in applesauce and > he > takes it no problem. I started him on 1 cap per > day and now give 2 (1 morning, 1 evening). > > I immediately noticed a positive change in his > speech with Glutathione. He has dropped 99% of > the babbling, doesn't verbally script and has > dropped about 85% of the echolalia. He just > turned 3 and in my opinion speaks > appropriately, > although he talks more like a barely 2 year old > than a barely 3 year old, but he's improving > every day. > > Kim > --- Yuliana Dewi <yuliana-dewi@ jssjakarta. > co.id> > wrote: > > > Dear All, > > > > (going to 5 years now) is having lots > of > > verbal stimming lately, dont know if this is > > called verbal stimming. But he bubble a lot > > (with some gestures, he love to watch himself > > in front of mirror while doing it), mostly > copy > > the talks in the movie, seems like he is > trying > > to immitate their talk. Even when he wake up > in > > the middle of the nite, he talk for 1 hour > and > > I pushed him back to sleep. He sometimes > sound > > like he is singing, but since his verbal is > not > > really good, I cant identify wht song does he > > sing if he is really singing. He loves > barney, > > elmo, and lately winnie the pooh. He did this > > bubbling all day long, sometimes I catch the > > words of " where did it go... are you sure > (like > > babybop) " . He is on antifungal rotation (from > > brainchild) - 3rd round, still have > > stomachache, little bit of bloating, and > doing > > well behaviourwise, good eye contact. well he > > did have some emotional outburst last week > and > > I expect tht due to I increase his OLE dosage > > (he did behave like that the same when I > first > > give him OLE, but that bad things with > tantrum, > > emotional outburst, mood swing only last > about > > 1-2 weeks). > > > > The question is, whether this verbal stimming > > is a GOOD sign or BAD one? > > > > I'm desperately trying to get him over his > > echolalia stage which I dont know until when > > and how to do it. He has been in sound > > immitation / echolalia since last May 2007. > > Seems like I need to use ABA instead of > > floortime to push him for the concept of > > communication. . > > > > I also gave him Acetyl L carnitine last week, > > may be this boost the verbal stimming? > > > > Any ideas will be appreciated. . > > Thanks. > > > > Yuliana > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ > _________ _________ _ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile. yahoo.com/ ;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR > 8HDtDypao8Wcj9tA cJ > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 How much Glutathione would you give orally? I have a 35 lb 3yo dd. What times of the day to give it and do you have to avoid giving it with other supplements? > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > (going to 5 years now) is having lots > > of > > > verbal stimming lately, dont know if this is > > > called verbal stimming. But he bubble a lot > > > (with some gestures, he love to watch himself > > > in front of mirror while doing it), mostly > > copy > > > the talks in the movie, seems like he is > > trying > > > to immitate their talk. Even when he wake up > > in > > > the middle of the nite, he talk for 1 hour > > and > > > I pushed him back to sleep. He sometimes > > sound > > > like he is singing, but since his verbal is > > not > > > really good, I cant identify wht song does he > > > sing if he is really singing. He loves > > barney, > > > elmo, and lately winnie the pooh. He did this > > > bubbling all day long, sometimes I catch the > > > words of " where did it go... are you sure > > (like > > > babybop) " . He is on antifungal rotation (from > > > brainchild) - 3rd round, still have > > > stomachache, little bit of bloating, and > > doing > > > well behaviourwise, good eye contact. well he > > > did have some emotional outburst last week > > and > > > I expect tht due to I increase his OLE dosage > > > (he did behave like that the same when I > > first > > > give him OLE, but that bad things with > > tantrum, > > > emotional outburst, mood swing only last > > about > > > 1-2 weeks). > > > > > > The question is, whether this verbal stimming > > > is a GOOD sign or BAD one? > > > > > > I'm desperately trying to get him over his > > > echolalia stage which I dont know until when > > > and how to do it. He has been in sound > > > immitation / echolalia since last May 2007. > > > Seems like I need to use ABA instead of > > > floortime to push him for the concept of > > > communication. . > > > > > > I also gave him Acetyl L carnitine last week, > > > may be this boost the verbal stimming? > > > > > > Any ideas will be appreciated. . > > > Thanks. > > > > > > Yuliana > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ > > _________ _________ _ > > Be a better friend, newshound, and > > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > > http://mobile. yahoo.com/ ;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR > > 8HDtDypao8Wcj9tA cJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php? category=shopping > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Hi Christel, I already give him Vit A, but just realized few days ago (from the nordic topics) that I actually give him much less than he need (he need 2500IU for below 5 years). So I up the dosage with kirkmann CLO, and now he is on more than 2500IU per day. Since I dont have any doctor here, its make me worry if I experiment with high dose Vit A protocol. Do you refer the Vit A that can get rid of stimming is HIGH DOSE? didnt have MMR vaccines, but received one single shot measles vaccine. Is that ok to do Vit A protocol for that? Can you advise the dosage for 5 years? I think it suppose to do it two days only, right? Btw, i love your blogs :-) Cheers, Yuliana Verbal stimming - bad sign or good sign? Dear All, (going to 5 years now) is having lots of verbal stimming lately, dont know if this is called verbal stimming. But he bubble a lot (with some gestures, he love to watch himself in front of mirror while doing it), mostly copy the talks in the movie, seems like he is trying to immitate their talk. Even when he wake up in the middle of the nite, he talk for 1 hour and I pushed him back to sleep. He sometimes sound like he is singing, but since his verbal is not really good, I cant identify wht song does he sing if he is really singing. He loves barney, elmo, and lately winnie the pooh. He did this bubbling all day long, sometimes I catch the words of "where did it go... are you sure (like babybop)". He is on antifungal rotation (from brainchild) - 3rd round, still have stomachache, little bit of bloating, and doing well behaviourwise, good eye contact. well he did have some emotional outburst last week and I expect tht due to I increase his OLE dosage (he did behave like that the same when I first give him OLE, but that bad things with tantrum, emotional outburst, mood swing only last about 1-2 weeks). The question is, whether this verbal stimming is a GOOD sign or BAD one? I'm desperately trying to get him over his echolalia stage which I dont know until when and how to do it. He has been in sound immitation / echolalia since last May 2007. Seems like I need to use ABA instead of floortime to push him for the concept of communication.. I also gave him Acetyl L carnitine last week, may be this boost the verbal stimming? Any ideas will be appreciated.. Thanks. Yuliana No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1213 - Release Date: 1/7/2008 9:14 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 you need to have titers checked to see if the high dose is needed. you can't do the the high dose vit A protical with CLO or you make your kid toxic in D Recovering from Autism is a marathon NOT a sprint, but FULLY possible! Read more about it on my Blogs athttp://www.myspace.com/christelking Verbal stimming - bad sign or good sign? Dear All, (going to 5 years now) is having lots of verbal stimming lately, dont know if this is called verbal stimming. But he bubble a lot (with some gestures, he love to watch himself in front of mirror while doing it), mostly copy the talks in the movie, seems like he is trying to immitate their talk. Even when he wake up in the middle of the nite, he talk for 1 hour and I pushed him back to sleep. He sometimes sound like he is singing, but since his verbal is not really good, I cant identify wht song does he sing if he is really singing. He loves barney, elmo, and lately winnie the pooh. He did this bubbling all day long, sometimes I catch the words of "where did it go... are you sure (like babybop)". He is on antifungal rotation (from brainchild) - 3rd round, still have stomachache, little bit of bloating, and doing well behaviourwise, good eye contact. well he did have some emotional outburst last week and I expect tht due to I increase his OLE dosage (he did behave like that the same when I first give him OLE, but that bad things with tantrum, emotional outburst, mood swing only last about 1-2 weeks). The question is, whether this verbal stimming is a GOOD sign or BAD one? I'm desperately trying to get him over his echolalia stage which I dont know until when and how to do it. He has been in sound immitation / echolalia since last May 2007. Seems like I need to use ABA instead of floortime to push him for the concept of communication.. I also gave him Acetyl L carnitine last week, may be this boost the verbal stimming? Any ideas will be appreciated.. Thanks. Yuliana No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1213 - Release Date: 1/7/2008 9:14 AM No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1213 - Release Date: 1/7/2008 9:14 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 Hi Christel, I gave up the blood test.. so for now is not possible.. Will keep this Vit A protocol as options for now.. Thanks, Yuliana Verbal stimming - bad sign or good sign? Dear All, (going to 5 years now) is having lots of verbal stimming lately, dont know if this is called verbal stimming. But he bubble a lot (with some gestures, he love to watch himself in front of mirror while doing it), mostly copy the talks in the movie, seems like he is trying to immitate their talk. Even when he wake up in the middle of the nite, he talk for 1 hour and I pushed him back to sleep. He sometimes sound like he is singing, but since his verbal is not really good, I cant identify wht song does he sing if he is really singing. He loves barney, elmo, and lately winnie the pooh. He did this bubbling all day long, sometimes I catch the words of "where did it go... are you sure (like babybop)". He is on antifungal rotation (from brainchild) - 3rd round, still have stomachache, little bit of bloating, and doing well behaviourwise, good eye contact. well he did have some emotional outburst last week and I expect tht due to I increase his OLE dosage (he did behave like that the same when I first give him OLE, but that bad things with tantrum, emotional outburst, mood swing only last about 1-2 weeks). The question is, whether this verbal stimming is a GOOD sign or BAD one? I'm desperately trying to get him over his echolalia stage which I dont know until when and how to do it. He has been in sound immitation / echolalia since last May 2007. Seems like I need to use ABA instead of floortime to push him for the concept of communication.. I also gave him Acetyl L carnitine last week, may be this boost the verbal stimming? Any ideas will be appreciated.. Thanks. Yuliana No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1213 - Release Date: 1/7/2008 9:14 AM No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1213 - Release Date: 1/7/2008 9:14 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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