OT--Thyroid issues in ASD? Makes me MAD!!!!

[Guest guest]

Has anyone seen this article before? Do any of your children have

diagnosed thyroid issues?

http://www.whale.to/vaccine/angie.html

This sort of infuriates me--as a nurse in the ICU, when patients come

in with a " change in mental status " (like many of our regressive

children have), before we push them off to the psych floors, they

have a whole myriad of tests drawn on them, and if anything is

slightly off, specialists consult (which usually leads to scopes and

biopsies) and we do not push them aside until all organ function has

been confirmed as working normally. Not that I would necessarily

want to watch my child go through all that, but why don't they get

the same attention. Even slightly elevated liver enyzmes would

warrant a liver ultrasound. The thyroid is always part of the work

up with a change in mental status. Blood cultures, stool samples, 24

hour urine collections--all sent...Why aren't more extensive workups

done on our children???? Aside from a basic chemistry and CBC, why

do they not look deeper into things?? It is purely b/c of their age

group and the fact that autism is listed in the psych manual. I wish

the psych manual would be rendered irrelevant and perhaps they would

look a little deeper into our children. For too many years, " psych "

patients have been pushed aside--this includes our elderly that are

stricken with alzheimer's and middle aged people diagnosed with

schizoprhenia. Now I'm ranting....forgive me.

[Guest guest]

Yes, mercury can and does effect the thyroid gland. Never trust TSH

results, always go with TRH results when testing thyroid function...

>

> Has anyone seen this article before? Do any of your children have

> diagnosed thyroid issues?

>

> http://www.whale.to/vaccine/angie.html

>

> This sort of infuriates me--as a nurse in the ICU, when patients

come

> in with a " change in mental status " (like many of our regressive

> children have), before we push them off to the psych floors, they

> have a whole myriad of tests drawn on them, and if anything is

> slightly off, specialists consult (which usually leads to scopes

and

> biopsies) and we do not push them aside until all organ function

has

> been confirmed as working normally. Not that I would necessarily

> want to watch my child go through all that, but why don't they get

> the same attention. Even slightly elevated liver enyzmes would

> warrant a liver ultrasound. The thyroid is always part of the work

> up with a change in mental status. Blood cultures, stool samples,

24

> hour urine collections--all sent...Why aren't more extensive

workups

> done on our children???? Aside from a basic chemistry and CBC, why

> do they not look deeper into things?? It is purely b/c of their

age

> group and the fact that autism is listed in the psych manual. I

wish

> the psych manual would be rendered irrelevant and perhaps they

would

> look a little deeper into our children. For too many

years, " psych "

> patients have been pushed aside--this includes our elderly that are

> stricken with alzheimer's and middle aged people diagnosed with

> schizoprhenia. Now I'm ranting....forgive me.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, I run a thyroid support group for adults, but I find that many of

these people have ADHD children. The correlations have been studied,

but as usual there is little done about it. Dr. Mark Starr has a very

good book on Hypothyroidism, Type II: the Epidemic, very good reading,

he practices in Atlanta. Also Broda is a good read .He does

mention ADHD in his book. I suspect there are many kids with ADHD

walking around on ritalin when they should be on throid meds like

Armour instead. Every child with a mental disorder should have their

thyroids check by a GOOD doctor...cath

[Guest guest]

You have every right to rant. I think part of the problem is that

they look at the broad reference ranges for the thyroid and if you

are within those limits they deduce all is well. I did some reading

over a year and a half ago looking at my son's medical profile and

stumbled into a bunch of issues that were off for him. It began from

hypercalcemia and went into the realm of the thyroid-adrenal

interaction affecting the parathyroid and calcium channels.

I posted what I had found on CK2 and abmd, basically a bunch of

correlations which did not make for a cause and effect deduction

because I lack the education required to do that. Guess how many

responses I got - you guessed it - nada, zilch, not a peep out of

anyone. I recall going to abmd for a week or two later to see if any

doctor had a comment but there was nothing. Okay another brick wall,

nothing's going to come of this, was my thought as I continued to

plough my way through this maze with alternative medicine and our

amazing DAN doctor.

Gayatri

>

> Has anyone seen this article before? Do any of your children have

> diagnosed thyroid issues?

>

> http://www.whale.to/vaccine/angie.html

>

> This sort of infuriates me--as a nurse in the ICU, when patients

come

> in with a " change in mental status " (like many of our regressive

> children have), before we push them off to the psych floors, they

> have a whole myriad of tests drawn on them, and if anything is

> slightly off, specialists consult (which usually leads to scopes

and

> biopsies) and we do not push them aside until all organ function

has

> been confirmed as working normally. Not that I would necessarily

> want to watch my child go through all that, but why don't they get

> the same attention. Even slightly elevated liver enyzmes would

> warrant a liver ultrasound. The thyroid is always part of the work

> up with a change in mental status. Blood cultures, stool samples,

24

> hour urine collections--all sent...Why aren't more extensive

workups

> done on our children???? Aside from a basic chemistry and CBC, why

> do they not look deeper into things?? It is purely b/c of their

age

> group and the fact that autism is listed in the psych manual. I

wish

> the psych manual would be rendered irrelevant and perhaps they

would

> look a little deeper into our children. For too many

years, " psych "

> patients have been pushed aside--this includes our elderly that are

> stricken with alzheimer's and middle aged people diagnosed with

> schizoprhenia. Now I'm ranting....forgive me.

>

[Guest guest]

I know most only want to read the TSH levels and thats not enough. I

had been really ill for 9 + yrs - went to an Endo and he only looked

at my TSH. Long story short, I ended up with Hashimoto's, and another

autoimmune disorder - took 3 yrs to get my thyroid levels to normal

and feeling well. But those years sick, I hurt all over, couldn't do

much, most of my hair fell out. It took going to a special clinic in

Houston for the DR's to help me. I even had tried the Mayo Clinic and

they didn't do anything for me.

So it is really important to have also all the levels checked, T-free

3, T Free 4. Also none of the syntheic medications helped me, I had

to go to pure Armord Thyroid to get well.

In mb12 valtrex , " live4luke " wrote:

>

> Has anyone seen this article before? Do any of your children have

> diagnosed thyroid issues?

>

> http://www.whale.to/vaccine/angie.html

>

> This sort of infuriates me--as a nurse in the ICU, when patients

come

> in with a " change in mental status " (like many of our regressive

> children have), before we push them off to the psych floors, they

> have a whole myriad of tests drawn on them, and if anything is

> slightly off, specialists consult (which usually leads to scopes

and

> biopsies) and we do not push them aside until all organ function

has

> been confirmed as working normally. Not that I would necessarily

> want to watch my child go through all that, but why don't they get

> the same attention. Even slightly elevated liver enyzmes would

> warrant a liver ultrasound. The thyroid is always part of the work

> up with a change in mental status. Blood cultures, stool samples,

24

> hour urine collections--all sent...Why aren't more extensive

workups

> done on our children???? Aside from a basic chemistry and CBC, why

> do they not look deeper into things?? It is purely b/c of their

age

> group and the fact that autism is listed in the psych manual. I

wish

> the psych manual would be rendered irrelevant and perhaps they

would

> look a little deeper into our children. For too many

years, " psych "

> patients have been pushed aside--this includes our elderly that are

> stricken with alzheimer's and middle aged people diagnosed with

> schizoprhenia. Now I'm ranting....forgive me.

>

[Guest guest]

Hypothyroidism and Autism

By Polly Hattemer and Willis Langford

Even though your child's blood thyroid tests may have come

back " normal, " this doesn't mean everything is " Just fine " . Thyroid

blood tests miss many cases of hypothyroidism (low thyroid function).

According to the Broda Foundation, the blood tests are

particularly inadequate when trying to determine if a young child is

hypothyroid. Even the urine thyroid tests aren't useful before

puberty. The diagnosis may have to be made on the basis of symptoms

and family history.

Hypothyroid Symptoms in Children

The manifestations of hypothyroidism in children are a little

different than in adults. A lecture by S. Wilkinson, MD, and

a lecture by Jaques Hertoghe, MD, described some low thyroid symptoms

to look for in infants and in very young children. [1] (Not all

symptoms need be present to make this diagnosis.) They are:

jaundice at birth

low birth-weight

birth defects

problems with sleep

developmental delays or mental retardation

poor muscle tone or flaccidness

(eg, trouble holding up head, or sitting up, or protrusion of belly

due to poor muscle tone)

low basal body-temperature (morning temp.)

hyperactivity

lethargy (fatigue or non-responsiveness)

hyperlaxity of their joints

(hands bend easily, or flat feet)

dry skin

pale complexion (anemia)

late teething

frequent ear or sinus infections

frequent colds, bronchitis, other infections

allergies

asthma

bedwetting

eczema

abnormal fatigue

difficulty with focusing in school

poor athletic ability

mood swings

If the hypothyroidism is severe, the bones will not develop properly.

The child will look similar to someone with Downs' Syndrome. They

might have a wide distance between the eyes, deep nose root and

middle bone structure, deep eyes, a big skull, and a flat appearance.

The neck will be short; the body will look short with a deep bone

structure (chest looks big in proportion to the rest of the body).

They may also have a thick edematous tongue that protrudes or has

teeth indentations. Other possible symptoms are thick lips, missing

the outer third of the eyebrows, dry falling hair or hair that grows

slowly; rough dry elbows, and maybe they will develop puffiness under

the eyes. Once in a while, you will see a yellow cast to the palms of

the hands, or around the eyes and cheeks, due to an inability to

convert carotene. (Thus, these kids are likely to be deficient in

vitamin A.) Hypothyroidism is also associated with anorexia, anxiety,

fears, and aggressiveness in the young. [2] Sometimes the reduced

ability to concentrate and short-term memory loss of hypothyroidism

looks like attention deficit disorder (ADD) or attention deficit

hyperactivity disorder (ADHD). [3]

It isn't easy to tell the difference between hypothyroidism and

hypoadrenalism, and you should rule out hypoadrenalism before

treating the thyroid. You need an expert to help with this. If

thyroid is recommended, start with a small amount and observe

reactions closely. Do not rapidly increase thyroid intake. It may

take a while for the body to adjust. Also, be careful about the type

of thyroid hormones your child receives. Very often when you try to

correct hypothyroidism with just T4 (Synthroid/Levothyroxine), many

symptoms of hypothyroidism will still be evident. Giving the

standardized, natural thyroid hormone will often clear the remaining

symptoms. Occasionally, additional T3 is needed. This is likely

because of a lack of necessary nutrients needed to convert T4 to T3.

Listen to the tape available from the Foundation on what

happened to a developmentally retarded baby when she was switched

from T4 to natural thyroid. The tape is " Baby : Physical

Examination of a Hypothyroid Child, " from www.Broda.org, or

phone .

The common causes of hypothyroidism are:

1. Estrogens, pseudo-estrogens and phytoestrogens (eg.

pesticides, plastics, flax seeds and soy)

2. Excessive polyunsaturated oils in the diet (These interfere

with the release and transport of thyroid hormone. [4] In their free

fatty acid state, these oils interfere with the conversion of T4 to

T3 thyroid. [5])

3. Radiation

4. Liver weakness/stress (e.g., viral infections of the liver or

exposure to toxins produced in the gut.)

5. Exposure to fluoride, bromide, and chlorine. These are

ubiquitous in our modern environment. They destroy iodine. However,

too much iodine will suppress thyroid.

6. Excess copper suppresses the thyroid.

7. Nutritional deficiencies (vitamins A and B-Complex, tyrosine,

selenium, zinc, glutathione, and iron)

8. Thyroiditis (antibodies to thyroid)

9. Mercury poisoning

Unfortunately, the manner in which the hypothyroidism arises might

invalidate the usual interpretation of blood TSH and thyroid hormones

levels. Consider these possible contributors to hypothyroidism in

autism:

1. Dr. Megson's work suggests that G-protein defects are

common in autism. These defects could interfere with the receptor

that the thyroid-simulating hormone (TSH) lands on.

2. With fluoride poisoning, you will find low TSH, elevated T4

thyroid and low T3 thyroid. Fluoride will interfere with all

activities that are usually mediated by Free T3 thyroid. Fluoride

mimics the activity of the TSH receptor. The TSH receptor is the only

receptor in the body that can activate all G-protein families.

Fluoride's mimicking of TSH will stimulate the production of T4 and

will hence lower the real TSH reading. In addition, fluoride lowers

T3 by interfering with the conversion of T4 to T3. [6]

3. Hypothyroidism and/or mitochondrial disease may cause a

buildup of mucopolysaccharides. (The buildup causes a puffy

appearance to the face.) This buildup interferes with the thyroid

hormone getting into the cells. The blood thyroid levels can look

normal even though very little thyroid is available to the cells.

There are also other physical changes in hypothyroidism that can make

the blood thyroid levels look normal. [7]

4. An enzyme in the brain that converts tryptophan into

serotonin can be activated by prenatal or early life stress. [8] If

serotonin is high in the brain, then it suppresses the release of

TRH, which in-turn lowers TSH. [9] This throws off the normal

interpretation of blood TSH readings.

5. A 1989 study of autistic children showed that they have a

lowered TSH and lowered delta TSH response to TRH. In 5 of the 14

children studied, the response was considered borderline. [10]

Doctors rarely perform this TRH test. It is invasive and not without

risk. Therefore, many cases of hypothyroidism in autism are being

missed.

6. Elevated immune factors of TNF and IL-6 are found in the

whole blood of the autistic. [11] TNF and IL-6 can suppress TSH and

raise ACTH. [12] This can throw off the normal interpretation of TSH

readings.

7. The PST enzyme is often weak in autism. This enzyme is used

to clear bilirubin. A buildup of bilirubin will give a yellowish cast

to the skin. Bilirubin can inhibit the transport of thyroid into the

liver. [13] The liver is the main place where thyroid is converted

into the active form.

8. Then of course there is mercury. In Hal Huggin's book,

Uninformed Consent, he speaks of mercury binding to iodine and

ruining the quality of the thyroid hormone. On page 109, he

states, " A person may have adequate levels of T3 and T4, but if the

hormones are contaminated, for practical purposes the person is

functionally thyroid deficient. "

References:

1. Lecture tapes from the Broda Foundation.

www.Broda.org, Phone Jacque Hertoghe,

MD " Clinical Diagnosis of Hypothyroidism " and another lecture by

S. Wilkinson, MD entitled " Broda O. , M.D. Protocol

for Treatment of Endocrine Dysfunction " ---- (Urine thyroid tests

aren't useful until after puberty.)

2. Aronson, LP, Dodman NH - " Thyroid Dysfunction as a Cause of

Aggression in Dogs and Cats. " Presented at the 43. Jahrestagung der

Deutschen Veterinarmedizinischen Gesellschaft Fachgruppe

Kleintierkrankheiten 29-31 August 1997 in HCC Hannover, Germany,

where he cited references Whybrow PC. " Behavioral and psychiatric

aspects of thyroto-xicosis " and " Behavioral and psychiatric

manifestations of hypothyroidism. " In Braverman LE, Utiger RD (eds)

Werner and Ingbar's The thyroid: a fundamental and clinical text (7th

edition). Philadelphia. Lippincott-Ravm 1996:696-700 and 1996:866-

870. http://www.beaconforhealth.org/Thyroid-Aggression.htm, and Munoz

MT, Argente J. " Anorexia nervosa in female adolescents: endocrine and

bone mineral density disturbances. " Eur J Endocrinol. 2002 Sep;147

(3):275-86. Review

3. Hauser P, Zametkin AJ, ez P,et al. Attention deficit-

hyperactivity disorder in people with generalized resistance to

thyroid hormone. NE JMed, 1993, 328:997-1001.

4. These properties of polyunsaturated oils are often mentioned

in Dr. Peat's books and newsletters. This is his website.

www.efn.org/~raypeat/index.html

5. Chopra IJ, Huang TS, Beredo A, DH, Chua Teco GN, Mead

JF. " Evidence for an inhibitor of extra-thyroidal conversion of

thyroxine to 3,5,3'-triiodothyronine in sera of patients with

nonthyroidal illnesses. " J Clin Endocrinol Metab 1985 Apr;60(4):666-

72 and Suzuki Y, Nanno M, Gemma R, Yoshimi T. " Plasma free fatty

acids, inhibitor of extra-thyroidal conversion of T4 to T3 and

thyroid hormone binding inhibitor in patients with various

nonthyroidal illnesses. Endocrinol Jpn. 1992 Oct;39(5):445-53. Also,

tryptophan restriction will increase T3. Carew LB Jr, Alster FA, Foss

DC, Scanes CG. " Effect of a tryptophan deficiency on thyroid gland,

growth hormone and testicular functions in chickens. " J Nutr. 1983

Sep;113(9):1756-65. These are some of the many references cited in

Peat's newsletters.

6. Schuld A, " The Fluoride-Iodine Antagonism " -- excellent

summary of many papers on this topic. http://www.fluoridealert.org/f-

iodine.htm, and personal communication with s Schuld

7. Jacque Hertoghe, MD, in a 1994 lecture, " Thyroid Deficiency:

What to Do When Blood tests Com up Normal " . He also mentioned these

other reasons for a slow clearance of thyroid hormones when

hypothyroidism is present. 1. a reduced blood volume, with overall

arterial vasal constriction (including in the kidneys) 2.

accumulation of waste products and mucopolysaccharides in

extracellular spaces (acting as a barrier), 3. lazy lymphatic

drainage, fewer cellular receptors for T4 and T3, 4. slower

conversion of T4 to T3, 5. Lower intracellular demand for thyroid

hormones. Lecture tapes are available from the Broda

Foundation, www.Broda.org, phone .

8. Manjarrez GG, Magdaleno VM, Chagoya G,

J, " Nutritional recovery does not reverse the activation of brain

serotonin synthesis in the ontogenectically malnourished rat " Int J

Dev Neurosci 1996 Aug; 14(5):641-8 as referenced in Ray Peat's

January 2002 newsletter

9. Brizzi G, Carella C, Foglia MC, Frigino M " Thyroid hormone

plasmatic levels in rats treated with serotonin in acute and chronic

way. " J Physiol Paris 1997 Dec;91(6):307-10

10. Aihara R, Hashimoto T [Neuroendocrinologic studies on autism]

No To Hattatsu 1989 Mar;21(2):154-62

11. Croonenberghs J, Bosmans E, Deboutte D, Kenis G, Maes

M. " Activation of the inflammatory response system in autism. "

Neuropsychobiology. 2002;45(1):1-6

12. Wallace, D, " The Fibromyalgia Syndrome " ls of Medicine

29:9-21,1997 and Brain Res 1999 Jan 9;815(2):337-48. The role of

interleukin-6 in the activation of the hypothalamo-pituitary-

adrenocortical axis and brain indoleamines by endotoxin and

interleukin-1 beta. Wang J, Dunn AJ

13. Hennemann G, Everts ME, de Jong M et al.: The significance of

plasma membrane transport in the bioavailability of thyroid hormone.

Clin. Endocrinology 1998 Jan; 48(1):1-8. Review as referenced in

www.thyroidmanager.org/Chapter3/3b-frame.htm.

4/25/03

> > >

> > > Has anyone seen this article before? Do any of your children

have

> > > diagnosed thyroid issues?

> > >

> > > http://www.whale.to/vaccine/angie.html

> > >

> > > This sort of infuriates me--as a nurse in the ICU, when patients

> >come

> > > in with a " change in mental status " (like many of our regressive

> > > children have), before we push them off to the psych floors,

they

> > > have a whole myriad of tests drawn on them, and if anything is

> > > slightly off, specialists consult (which usually leads to scopes

> >and

> > > biopsies) and we do not push them aside until all organ function

> >has

> > > been confirmed as working normally. Not that I would necessarily

> > > want to watch my child go through all that, but why don't they

get

> > > the same attention. Even slightly elevated liver enyzmes would

> > > warrant a liver ultrasound. The thyroid is always part of the

work

> > > up with a change in mental status. Blood cultures, stool

samples,

> >24

> > > hour urine collections--all sent...Why aren't more extensive

> >workups

> > > done on our children???? Aside from a basic chemistry and CBC,

why

> > > do they not look deeper into things?? It is purely b/c of their

> >age

> > > group and the fact that autism is listed in the psych manual. I

> >wish

> > > the psych manual would be rendered irrelevant and perhaps they

> >would

> > > look a little deeper into our children. For too many

> >years, " psych "

> > > patients have been pushed aside--this includes our elderly that

are

> > > stricken with alzheimer's and middle aged people diagnosed with

> > > schizoprhenia. Now I'm ranting....forgive me.

> > >

> >

> >

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for the great information. The excess copper caught my eye as

playing a role in suppressing the thyroid. Someone on CK2 said that

mercury binds to zinc very well and I was wondering if that might

possibly be causing the imbalance in the copper-zinc ratio - leading

to the ripple effect downstream of disrupting bodily function.

Here again is yet another topic of research if it hasn't already been

done .

Gayatri

> > > >

> > > > Has anyone seen this article before? Do any of your children

> have

> > > > diagnosed thyroid issues?

> > > >

> > > > http://www.whale.to/vaccine/angie.html

> > > >

> > > > This sort of infuriates me--as a nurse in the ICU, when

patients

> > >come

> > > > in with a " change in mental status " (like many of our

regressive

> > > > children have), before we push them off to the psych floors,

> they

> > > > have a whole myriad of tests drawn on them, and if anything is

> > > > slightly off, specialists consult (which usually leads to

scopes

> > >and

> > > > biopsies) and we do not push them aside until all organ

function

> > >has

> > > > been confirmed as working normally. Not that I would

necessarily

> > > > want to watch my child go through all that, but why don't

they

> get

> > > > the same attention. Even slightly elevated liver enyzmes would

> > > > warrant a liver ultrasound. The thyroid is always part of the

> work

> > > > up with a change in mental status. Blood cultures, stool

> samples,

> > >24

> > > > hour urine collections--all sent...Why aren't more extensive

> > >workups

> > > > done on our children???? Aside from a basic chemistry and

CBC,

> why

> > > > do they not look deeper into things?? It is purely b/c of

their

> > >age

> > > > group and the fact that autism is listed in the psych manual.

I

> > >wish

> > > > the psych manual would be rendered irrelevant and perhaps they

> > >would

> > > > look a little deeper into our children. For too many

> > >years, " psych "

> > > > patients have been pushed aside--this includes our elderly

that

> are

> > > > stricken with alzheimer's and middle aged people diagnosed

with

> > > > schizoprhenia. Now I'm ranting....forgive me.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Hi, I have hashimotos hypothyroidism and I have had my son tested a

couple of times. His numbers came back in the low normal range. When

I read this post he has several of the symptoms listed. I have known

there was a problem from birth with him bc of his lack of eye contact

and not liking to be held. Would it harm him to try a low dose of

natural thyroid to see if it makes any difference? It worries me bc

of my history. Our DAN thought we should not treat him at this point.

Thanks for any input.

Sara

> > > >

> > > > Has anyone seen this article before? Do any of your children

> have

> > > > diagnosed thyroid issues?

> > > >

> > > > http://www.whale.to/vaccine/angie.html

> > > >

> > > > This sort of infuriates me--as a nurse in the ICU, when patients

> > >come

> > > > in with a " change in mental status " (like many of our regressive

> > > > children have), before we push them off to the psych floors,

> they

> > > > have a whole myriad of tests drawn on them, and if anything is

> > > > slightly off, specialists consult (which usually leads to scopes

> > >and

> > > > biopsies) and we do not push them aside until all organ function

> > >has

> > > > been confirmed as working normally. Not that I would necessarily

> > > > want to watch my child go through all that, but why don't they

> get

> > > > the same attention. Even slightly elevated liver enyzmes would

> > > > warrant a liver ultrasound. The thyroid is always part of the

> work

> > > > up with a change in mental status. Blood cultures, stool

> samples,

> > >24

> > > > hour urine collections--all sent...Why aren't more extensive

> > >workups

> > > > done on our children???? Aside from a basic chemistry and CBC,

> why

> > > > do they not look deeper into things?? It is purely b/c of their

> > >age

> > > > group and the fact that autism is listed in the psych manual. I

> > >wish

> > > > the psych manual would be rendered irrelevant and perhaps they

> > >would

> > > > look a little deeper into our children. For too many

> > >years, " psych "

> > > > patients have been pushed aside--this includes our elderly that

> are

> > > > stricken with alzheimer's and middle aged people diagnosed with

> > > > schizoprhenia. Now I'm ranting....forgive me.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Hi

This is fascinating. Could you tell me why is it that mercury

disrupts sulphur and zinc and not so much copper. Why does the

mercury leave the copper alone? I don't get this.

Thanks

Gayatri

>

> >Thanks for the great information. The excess copper caught my eye

as

> >playing a role in suppressing the thyroid. Someone on CK2 said that

> >mercury binds to zinc very well and I was wondering if that might

> >possibly be causing the imbalance in the copper-zinc ratio -

leading

> >to the ripple effect downstream of disrupting bodily function.

> >

> >Here again is yet another topic of research if it hasn't already

been

> >done .

>

>

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