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Is he still sick?  I would start some natural antivirals, probios and diet.CherylPlease help don't know what to do urgent to stanMy 15 month old just had a virus is now showing signs of Autism, Hitting his head, falling over on the floor, pushing me away, and is very angry, Please what should i doReal people. Real questions. Real answers. Share what you know.

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he is well now can eat. But he is not himself as the virus was comin on he seemed to stop some things like waving , flying kiss and hiphiphoree

just wondering if we need to treat with Valtrex and difulcan

this is the first time he has been sick and he is 15 months old

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Getting sick can get any child to not act normally, especially if it was bad.  I would give it a few days before assuming he has autism but I would definitely think about some naturals.Cherylhe is well now can eat. But he is not himself as the virus was comin on he seemed to stop some things like waving , flying kiss and hiphiphoreejust wondering if we need to treat with Valtrex and difulcanthis is the first time he has been sick and he is 15 months oldDonna urgent to stanMy 15 month old just had a virus is now showing signs of Autism, Hitting his head, falling over on the floor, pushing me away, and is very angry, Please what should i doReal people. Real questions. Real answers. Share what you know.Real people. Real questions. Real answers. Share what you know.

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I think it is too soon to think that the 15 months old is also autistic.In my opinion do not too fast reacting to the change of his behavior while he is sick. Autism is not caused by a viral infection.I feel sorry for you, as I belief that you are overwhelmed by the situation.Cheers,us urgent to stan

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thanks Maureen I a currently in Singapore. I will bring my son to see his doctor who is also a Dan dr. I know he will do well. It just seems like more evidence of the viral theory.

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Thanks It is just hard because my other boys have issues as well. We are changing his diet and doing the naturals.

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Dear us

Thanks, We just want to cover all our bases. You see the doctor in hong kong delayed our other sons diagnosis by 6 months because she felt he was too happy to be autistic.

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Wrong on two things. 15 months is not too soon, and it is very likely

that many cases of autism are in fact caused by viral and other

infections.

But I agree that it could be a temporary change in behaviours, he might

normalise once/if he fights off the virus.

On the other hand no harm in starting probiotics and OLE.

You also may to want to cut out or reduce complex carbs and sugar from

his diet until he gets better.

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I would immediately remove dairy and

gluten from his diet and put him on a good Casein/gluten/soy free probiotic. And

then I would find a DAN physician to run some tests and give advice. They

might, with these symptoms recommend an antiviral/antifungal protocal. It’s

good you’re asking questions and being proactive at this stage. Could you tell

us whether or not he recently received the MMR? My son received the MMR at 15

months and began viral symptoms. -

From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of donna schmidt

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Please help don't know

what to do

urgent to stan

My 15 month old just had a virus is now showing signs

of Autism,

Hitting his head, falling over on the floor, pushing me away, and is

very angry, Please what should i do

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Our dear son had a nasty rotovirus at 15 mo, very close to several vax -

- MMR + HIB I don't have his file here. I know his digestion was never

the same, nor was his language. If I knew then what I knew now I'd have

started him on diet, OLE and probiotics, antioxidents come to mind, in

that order. Low and slow. Good luck.

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Donna in treating my child and reading Luc Schepper's blogs it seems

like it might be the measles infection. Did you give him the MMR?

If it is the measles, buy Bryonia 30C, will you get it from a health

food store or someplace soon enough? If not you can order from Helios

Lab in the UK. You can get an express delivery but it might cost more.

http://www.helios.co.uk/

Click on Ordering, then Remedies, then B in the box.

Go down to Bryonia, pick 30C potency, pick Pills and pick the

smallest size (cheapest). 4g will be enough.

Take 2 pellets, put them in 4 oz to 6 oz water (if you have a

sensitive child you take more water, if not so sensitive use less

water). Let it dissolve, then stir and give 1/4 to 1/2 tsp (again

depending on sensitivity, give less if the child is very sensitive).

You can repeat every 15 minutes even and watch and see. Be careful

not to overdose.

If he does not respond then its not the measles. I hope this helps.

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Hi Donna,

Don't wait, start with something. I would start

with the diet, either GFCF or SCD. Then you can

add some vitamins (like a good multi), codliver

oil, probiotics, vitamin C and minerals like

zinc. Also, start epsom salts baths. This is

just a stop-gap measure until you can get a

proper diagnosis.

The change in diet, and these vitamins at the RDA

doses won't hurt your child and may help him.

Also, be sure to engage your child by requiring

simple responses to things he wants. Like saying

or signing for drink, if he wants one. Keep him

engaged in this way. Also, you can try some

simple sensory exercises with him, such as gently

turning circles with him, hanging him upside

down, applying pressure and deepish massage to

his feet (this works great during a meltdown and

is very calming to most children), applying

squeezing pressure, like wrapping him tightly in

a blanket, brushing him softly with a soft brush.

These are a simple things you can do that won't

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No MMR but he had previous shots including flu. I was taking him out of Singapore and was concerned with illness

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> Autism is not caused by a viral infection.

I don't think anyone can know this for certain.

It has been my experience that both of my

children got stomach viruses, and regressed

immediately thereafter. I especially noticed

sensory problems with my youngest. He was eating

normally until he got ill, and would only eat

baby food for about 6 mos after he was sick.

Many therapies and interventions for autistic

children are benign, and IMO it's better to be

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thanks

we are lucky our new doctor for him, who is also jis brother , who has autism's doctor, advised us to do that straight away.

Donna

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Our dear son had a nasty rotovirus at 15 mo, very close to several vax -- MMR + HIB I don't have his file here. I know his digestion was never the same, nor was his language. If I knew then what I knew now I'd have started him on diet, OLE and probiotics, antioxidents come to mind, in that order. Low and slow. Good luck.

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Yeah Dominick seems to have sensory issues now. He was so cuddly and sometimes now he oushes me away. And he keeps wanting to lay down on the floor and shake his head on it and kick hard surfaces. He presses his head into the floor

I will keep an eye on it

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Donna,

When did he get his last vaccine and was

it the MMR? Also what were his viral symptoms? -

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Yeah Dominick seems to have sensory issues now. He was so cuddly and

sometimes now he oushes me away. And he keeps wanting to lay down on the floor

and shake his head on it and kick hard surfaces. He presses his head into

the floor

I will keep an eye on it

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> Autism is not caused by a viral infection.

I don't think anyone can know this for certain.

It has been my experience that both of my

children got stomach viruses, and regressed

immediately thereafter. I especially noticed

sensory problems with my youngest. He was eating

normally until he got ill, and would only eat

baby food for about 6 mos after he was sick.

Many therapies and interventions for autistic

children are benign, and IMO it's better to be

safe than sorry.

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Gayatri,

Does this work only after a recent MMR shot or could it be effective

even years one?

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he had his last vaccine in June, he hasn't had mmr. the big thing is this new sensory of banging his head or pressing it into the floor. I am afraid he will hurt himself.

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And he keeps wanting to lay down on the

> floor and shake his head on it and kick hard

> surfaces. He presses his head into the floor

This may be because he's seeking proprioceptive

input. Many of these children have difficulty

knowing where there bodies are in space.

When they perform sensory seeking behaviors, you

would think that what they do would solve their

problem. However, according to the excellent OT

my son had in early intervention, this doesn't

happen, because what they're doing is on a

subconscious or brain stem level.

You could try joint compressions, applying

pressure with the palm of your hand to his head,

as well as helping him jump up, then letting him

land solidly on his feet. Or just applying

pressure to his feet and hands may help.

According to my OT there are levels these

children go through. If their needs are severe,

a more structured routine may be called for where

you do things in a sequence. For more aware kids

just providing some input for them does the

trick. As they progress, they will eventually be

able to meet their own sensory needs. All of this

stuff is soooo easy and doesn't take to long to

do.

As I've mentioned my son is a picky eater, due to

his aversion to certain textures. I can try to

get him to eat something with no luck, then do

this simple sensory thing to him (sweep across

his upper palate three times, then press his

bottom teeth twice) and he'll try the food. I

swear, it works every time.

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I don't think it's accurate to say

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> by viral infection as I believe it most

> certainly can be a trigger.

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Yes Cheryl, I agree with you. I don't think the

virus " caused " my son's autism. I know it was

the trigger, the thing that pushed them over the

edge. I guess it's a fine distinction to make,

if not getting the virus would have meant them

not becoming autistic though.

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Another thing to consider. I recently read an

excellent book about enzymes and how they can

help those on the spectrum, as well as those with

sensory and GI issues.

According to the author, who suffered from severe

migraines, her son would head bang. She finally

realized that he may be doing this because he was

having headaches and it alleviated the pain. She

tried the headbanging herself and claimed it did

help with her pain.

Long story short, the entire family went on

enzyme therapy, which resolved almost all of

their issues.

I'm sorry I don't have the title of the book, as

I've lent it out.

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it would depend on when the symptoms occur. Something needs

to provoke the virus from the body and THEN and only THEN do you

treat with a homeopathic acute and see the consequent improvement or

it will do nothing. This was what looked like measles and a 30C is a

safe potency to try to see if it works.

Gayatri

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