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At 02:57 PM 11/30/04 -0800, you wrote:

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>On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 16:17:21 -0600

>Deanna <hl@...> wrote:

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>> Machine squats? You don't need no stinking machine! Hard buns rule!

>> And they are, after all, on topic.

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>> Deanna

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>Oh that was years ago, thank goodness! Yup, definitely on topic, lol!

You know, I really need to talk to you people about this squat thing.

Seriously, all punning aside. " I don't think you mean what I think you

mean " , to misquote a favorite movie.

Points to anyone who gets the reference, and who emails me offlist for

stupid questions.

MFJ

Yeeeeeeeeeeeee Haaaaaaaaaaaaa!!! ~Hammond of Texas

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> Filling the woodbin, shoveling snow. - Wanita

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> Now that's what I call functional exercise!

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> Deanna

Work is 20 hours a week year round of functional exercise too. When there's

no snow or wood heat needed there's garden and berry picking. Favorite

exercise is lifting a cup of herb tea with my feet up along with the brain

exercise from a good book when I'm done at night. :-) Vattas don't need a

lot of exercise. Doing something with an immediate visible result helps too.

Wanita

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Work is 20 hours a week year round of functional exercise too. When there's

no snow or wood heat needed there's garden and berry picking. Favorite

exercise is lifting a cup of herb tea with my feet up along with the brain

exercise from a good book when I'm done at night. :-) Vattas don't need a

lot of exercise. Doing something with an immediate visible result helps too.

Wanita

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A dear friend of mine - 40 years my senior - always says wood heats you

at least three times. Chopping it, stacking it and burning it. When I

lived in the mountains, I would cut my own dead wood in the forest. It

was very satisfying work since I had no other source for heat but wood fire.

Wanita, if you are vatta, coming into vatta time of year, you probably

don't need anything but warm fire, drink and a good book. Also, I tend

to think you are gently nudging me to accepting the fact that winter

workout is an oxymoron of sorts. Certainly traditional folks with any

real winter to speak of would have been long done with the majority of

work by this time of year and would burn plenty of calories just keeping

the body temperature up, especially with winter foods stores dwindling.

Well, sometimes this pitta-type, modern, city girl needs a sledgehammer

.... or at least a good walk in nature.

Deanna

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Okay, I'll bite.

Vatta? - MFJ

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It's one of the three doshas from ayurveda. The other two are pitta and

kapha. We all have a bit of each to a degree, but usually one

dominates. Here's a bit on each. Vatta predominates in winter

generally depending on your climate (cold dry tendency):

http://www.yatan-ayur.com.au/About_Ayurveda.htm

Ayurveda describes three fundamental mind/body types, or *doshas*,

called *Vata, Pitta *and* Kapha*, which embody different combinations of

the five elements : air, ether, fire, water and earth. Each of us

contain all doshas to varying degrees, and their balance can be

determined through examination of your eyes, nails, tongue, skin, voice,

by pulse diagnosis, and through the insight of the Ayurvedic

practitioner. Because the five elements exist in us and in nature,

your doshas can become aggravated or imbalanced due to inappropriate or

inadequate diet, change of seasons, climate or lifestyle, and result in

disease in the body.

Find your dosha by taking a simplistic quiz:

http://www.wildearthnepal.com/ayurquiz.asp

This one is better. Scroll down and click the link " Find your dosha " to

the pop up window:

http://www.atlantis-salon.com/ayurveda.html

Deanna

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> Work is 20 hours a week year round of functional exercise too. When

> there's

> no snow or wood heat needed there's garden and berry picking. Favorite

> exercise is lifting a cup of herb tea with my feet up along with the brain

> exercise from a good book when I'm done at night. :-) Vattas don't need a

> lot of exercise. Doing something with an immediate visible result helps

> too.

> Wanita

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> A dear friend of mine - 40 years my senior - always says wood heats you

> at least three times. Chopping it, stacking it and burning it. When I

> lived in the mountains, I would cut my own dead wood in the forest. It

> was very satisfying work since I had no other source for heat but wood

> fire.

>

> Wanita, if you are vatta, coming into vatta time of year, you probably

> don't need anything but warm fire, drink and a good book. Also, I tend

> to think you are gently nudging me to accepting the fact that winter

> workout is an oxymoron of sorts. Certainly traditional folks with any

> real winter to speak of would have been long done with the majority of

> work by this time of year and would burn plenty of calories just keeping

> the body temperature up, especially with winter foods stores dwindling.

> Well, sometimes this pitta-type, modern, city girl needs a sledgehammer

> ... or at least a good walk in nature.

>

Deanna

Winter workout isn't an oxymoron if you're pitta. Why pitta DH chops the

wood and I " help " stack and bring in. :-) He has to do something more

physically exertive or active than me almost daily. Even lower exercise

needers need some. The sickest I ever got was at the end of a winter after a

few years of doing a totally sedentary job with no wood to haul and less

snow shoveling.

Wanita

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> Winter workout isn't an oxymoron if you're pitta. Why pitta DH chops the

> wood and I " help " stack and bring in. :-) He has to do something more

> physically exertive or active than me almost daily. Even lower exercise

> needers need some. The sickest I ever got was at the end of a winter

> after a

> few years of doing a totally sedentary job with no wood to haul and less

> snow shoveling.

>

> Wanita

Tis true I need more activity as a pitta. I wonder if 's acronym

describes me best, as he just *happened* to use the PITA term

yesterday. It does fit, lol.

The winter air in the lungs is good, along with circulation to keep

those bad bugs from attacking us when we huddle indoors too long and

stagnate. Do you get extra cold in winter? I have vatta skin from

autumn on, even when I eat plenty of fats - it just gets dry and cold.

I use almond oil on it or I look like a dried up lake bed. Perhaps I am

missing something though, because it is a constant battle to keep moist

skin. My hair has been much healthier since I have been using Aveda Sap

Moss shampoo/conditioner and the Brilliant leave on cream for several

year. My hair used to be so brittle and dry, so I am happy to have

found a solution. But it is naturally curly, so becomes a barometer of

sorts, curling up more in humidity, straightening in dry, windy weather.

Deanna

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On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 06:57:07 -0600, Deanna <hl@...> wrote:

I have vatta skin from

> autumn on, even when I eat plenty of fats - it just gets dry and cold.

> I use almond oil on it or I look like a dried up lake bed. Perhaps I am

> missing something though, because it is a constant battle to keep moist

> skin. My hair has been much healthier since I have been using Aveda Sap

> Moss shampoo/conditioner and the Brilliant leave on cream for several

> year. My hair used to be so brittle and dry, so I am happy to have

> found a solution. But it is naturally curly, so becomes a barometer of

> sorts, curling up more in humidity, straightening in dry, windy weather.

>

> Deanna

So, Deanna,

Where's the pitta?

B.

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Blazey wrote:

> On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 06:57:07 -0600, Deanna wrote:

> I have vatta skin from

> > autumn on, even when I eat plenty of fats - it just gets dry and cold.

> > I use almond oil on it or I look like a dried up lake bed. Perhaps I am

> > missing something though, because it is a constant battle to keep moist

> > skin. My hair has been much healthier since I have been using Aveda Sap

> > Moss shampoo/conditioner and the Brilliant leave on cream for several

> > year. My hair used to be so brittle and dry, so I am happy to have

> > found a solution. But it is naturally curly, so becomes a barometer of

> > sorts, curling up more in humidity, straightening in dry, windy weather.

> >

> > Deanna

>

> So, Deanna,

> Where's the pitta?

> B.

Pardon, ? You mean for me or in general. I have a pita body

(mesomorph), high energy, pita intelligence, drive and overall

attitude. I can get cranky when not balanced. But then, I'm a Leo

too;) In general pita is mainly fire-like. So my skin is more vata in

vata time, not so in summer pita weather, where it can even get oily;

and I have a few kapha tendencies too. We all are a combo of doshas;

some people are tridoshic - which is, of course, the ideal. Pita is

always 2 to 1 above the others when I've been tested for dosha.

Did that answer your question?

Deanna

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Pardon, ? You mean for me or in general. I have a pita body

(mesomorph), high energy, pita intelligence, drive and overall

attitude. I can get cranky when not balanced. But then, I'm a Leo

too;) In general pita is mainly fire-like. So my skin is more vata in

vata time, not so in summer pita weather, where it can even get oily;

and I have a few kapha tendencies too. We all are a combo of doshas;

some people are tridoshic - which is, of course, the ideal. Pita is

always 2 to 1 above the others when I've been tested for dosha.

Did that answer your question?

Deanna

Quite adequately.

B.

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> Tis true I need more activity as a pitta. I wonder if 's acronym

> describes me best, as he just *happened* to use the PITA term

> yesterday. It does fit, lol.

>

> The winter air in the lungs is good, along with circulation to keep

> those bad bugs from attacking us when we huddle indoors too long and

> stagnate. Do you get extra cold in winter? I have vatta skin from

> autumn on, even when I eat plenty of fats - it just gets dry and cold.

> I use almond oil on it or I look like a dried up lake bed. Perhaps I am

> missing something though, because it is a constant battle to keep moist

> skin. My hair has been much healthier since I have been using Aveda Sap

> Moss shampoo/conditioner and the Brilliant leave on cream for several

> year. My hair used to be so brittle and dry, so I am happy to have

> found a solution. But it is naturally curly, so becomes a barometer of

> sorts, curling up more in humidity, straightening in dry, windy weather.

>

> Deanna

Guess all pitta dominants could be up for a PITA if that short tempered

imbalance is let out. :-) Everyone has those moments though. That winter I

did get sick my skin was like an alligator's and I couldn't get warm.

Coconut milk last winter kept my skin better than it ever was. Cut it out

mid summer as I was getting what seemed like hot flashes but they weren't.

Just started it again. Good sweet and oily vata foods. Got barometer hair

too. Curly puff in humidity, straighter and flatter in winter. As a teen I

had oily hair and forehead.

Wanita

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It's funny that I simply didn't like the word " ayurveda " , and so I

always avoided any study of it! But those sites that you mentioned

yesterday gave a nice introduction. So after " testing " myself, I find

that I am a vatta, but very high pitta tendencies (on the cusp of the

cusp LOL).

So in answer to the question of getting extra cold, I thought I would

ring in with a resounding YES! I have come to hate cold with a passion

as of late. I almost never get warm in cold weather. I never have been

able to. Perhaps I have just been out of balance my entire life? Or

maybe, I would really do much better in a warmer climate.

Here's an interesting note on hair and skin though... after you adjust

for sensitivites, and take out all the chemicals... when I was in a

cold climate, I was dry no matter what I did during the cold season.

While living in a warmer climate, (which is where we were when we

added the fats back in the diet,) I had no problems with dryness at

all. Now that we are back in a cold climate, no matter how much fat I

consume, I have been frozen and miserable ever since the onset of the

chill.

I think I will move south!

Catz - whose hair would not need to be ironed if it ever came back into style.

>

> The winter air in the lungs is good, along with circulation to keep

> those bad bugs from attacking us when we huddle indoors too long and

> stagnate. Do you get extra cold in winter? I have vatta skin from

> autumn on, even when I eat plenty of fats - it just gets dry and cold.

> I use almond oil on it or I look like a dried up lake bed. Perhaps I am

> missing something though, because it is a constant battle to keep moist

> skin. My hair has been much healthier since I have been using Aveda Sap

> Moss shampoo/conditioner and the Brilliant leave on cream for several

> year. My hair used to be so brittle and dry, so I am happy to have

> found a solution. But it is naturally curly, so becomes a barometer of

> sorts, curling up more in humidity, straightening in dry, windy weather.

>

>

>

> Deanna

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On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 08:23:48 -0800

" Robin Reese " <robin.reese@...> wrote:

> I like rebounding --jumping up and down on a mini trampoline that I put in

> front of the TV. Good exercise and the jumping is good for the lymph and

> immune system ~Robin

I'm a big fan of rebounding even though I rarely do it anymore. The

founder of the rebound exerciser lived in our vicinity when I was a

college student.

http://www.healthbounce.com/aboutus.htm

I would use the rebounder to train for long hikes or a backpacking trip

by wearing a weight vest while jumping up and down on it and it worked

miracles in short period of time. I always had the heaviest backpack

because it was loaded with fresh foods (not the freeze dried stuff) and

yet had no problem climbing hills or hitting those dreaded switchbacks.

So I could enjoy the hike without worrying about conditioning.

If is right in his book, The Miracles of Rebound Exercise, then

it is quite a tool to have on hand.

https://reboundair.securesites.com/vhosts/rebound-aerobics/products1.htm

has always talked about how jumping on a full trampoline has kept

him and his kids healthy, young, and youthful looking. He said it was

this experience that led him to do the research and create the rebounder

so that everyone could benefit from trampoline jumping without having to

buy a trampoline.

However, when I was recently in land, I had a chance to workout on a

full trampoline several times and it was a WORKOUT. So while I have no

doubt that the mini trampoline or rebounder is quite beneficial, I doubt

very seriously it matches the benefits of full trampolining.

So one day I hope to have a full trampoline in my backyard. They cost

about the same as a top of the line rebounder.

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> So after " testing " myself, I find

> that I am a vatta, but very high pitta tendencies (on the cusp of the

> cusp LOL).

>

> I think I will move south!

> Catz - whose hair would not need to be ironed if it ever came back into

> style.

Did the dosha test again as its been 15 years since the vata extreme. Tied

on vata and pitta. My hair straightened with each pregnancy and got curlier

after getting rid of SAD. Hated my hair in high school in the early 70's

when straight was in. Had waves at ear level that stuck out like wings.

Slept on the biggest rollers they made and ironed it every morning. If I

ever move it will be further north just because it seems disease carrying

insects more prevalent in the south are already migrating north. A cold

season does have some good purpose. Also I have an unproven theory that food

grown in soil that has a frozen period tastes better.

Wanita

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Wanita,

I thought I would throw in some data for your theory...okay, some

opinion. I grew up in Chicago, where you can get everything from

anywhere. Then we moved to Mesa, AZ. We found wonderful tasting food

everywhere. The farmer's market was my favorite place to go...after

years of not wanting to eat because food had lost it's taste, food had

flavor again. About 6 months ago, we moved to SW Idaho. Food has again

lost all flavor, and I have a hard time remembering to eat (yes, I

have learned to force myself anyways). I have started searching for

and specifically choosing food grown in CA, AZ, or TX. This food seems

to taste best to me.

I would think it would have more flavor if they actually let it ripen

before picking it (LOL), but I guess then it would spoil in shipping.

Catzz

> If I

> ever move it will be further north just because it seems disease carrying

> insects more prevalent in the south are already migrating north. A cold

> season does have some good purpose. Also I have an unproven theory that food

> grown in soil that has a frozen period tastes better.

>

> Wanita

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> A cold season does have some good purpose. Also I have an unproven

> theory that food grown in soil that has a frozen period tastes better.

> - Wanita

Most definitely many foods are better after a good frost. Brussels

sprouts come to mind first, but it runs the gamut of fruit and veg, I

think. And the north and east have better cultural development, history

and architecture, as well. Someday I will go back north. I'd love to

try New England. When I lived in the Twin Cities, it was great for all

of the cultural offerings and conveniences. However, when the weather

warmed up enough to sit in an outdoor café and enjoy it, the mosquitoes

would attack.

Deanna

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In a message dated 11/30/04 8:26:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, hl@...

writes:

> I know many of you tweak your diet along with your workouts. What have

> you experienced?

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~~~> I find the opposite. I lose muscle very easily if my food intake is too

low, and I need to eat carbohydrates for strength. It wasn't a problem

before my 50 hr/week manual labor job, but now I find that I have to eat

something

between work and working out and it has to contain at least 50 g/carbs in

order to lift. In general, I find I get total breakdown on less than 100g

carbs/day, and around your max I get insomnia from too few carbs.

Chris

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In a message dated 11/30/04 4:14:15 PM Eastern Standard Time,

catzandturtles@... writes:

> yet another thread degades into a butt conversation.... ah well

____

~~~> I think of it as being elevated to such.

Chris

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In a message dated 11/30/04 4:41:33 PM Eastern Standard Time,

s.fisher22@... writes:

> butta butta bing!

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~~> And how could we discuss butts without bringing up butta. Everyting

tastes betta wit butta.

Chris

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In a message dated 12/2/04 10:27:27 AM Eastern Standard Time,

teresa.blazey@... writes:

> Where's the pitta?

>

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~~~> The pitta and patta are both under your feet.

Chris

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