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EMF: Enigma in a mystery in vortex of a paradox

My proposal for doing EMF therapy against HIV/AIDS and malaria has

been put on hold again. Several new bits of information have come

into my consciousness and I hesitate to move forward.

First, the increasingly dubious link between HIV and AIDS and the

whole mis-information behind it and how it is used to control people.

Two, trying to reconcile what Becker says about EMF and EMR in

his must read Boby Electric book, which I only read recently and

thoroughly enjoyed for its research, quality and style of writing and

well presented points.

For now, I want to request from this group more insights into

understanding EMF via Rife, why Becker does not mention Rife, Priore

or any key players in the Rife movement or the work being done in

treatments.

Third, his extensive research into EMF and any related works about the

use of electrification for treatment in regenerative systems and

immune system work, down to the cellular levels, then as applied to

bone and wound healing and various ailments including arthritis,

cancer and more. Becker concludes from his work and the research,

that ELF frequencies and radiation, and much of the work by Abe Liboff

and others in this range, especially using the earth's own ELF has

great value; i.e., the weak fields and energy levels using

simultaneously with the known fields generated within the earth's

magnetic fields has value.

He further conclude that many of the EMF frequencies above the ELF

range have many dangerous effects on the cellular activity within the

body, based on research done around the world, actually promotes

cancer and parasitic growth up to six times, even under short term

exposures and causes confusion within the immune system signals, to

the point of creating immune deficiency syndromes!

I have noted almost all such references within his book. My

presentation may be off above, but on review it captures the tone and

fact of what he says: he does not encourage any applied EMF of pulsed

or non pulsed frequencies within the human body without extensive

study on the good and bad, as he has identified enough of the bad to

concern him very deeply!! (He writes a lot about ELF and EMF

assaulting the body in society and this explains the WHO extensive

work on their deleterious effects today, plus denial by EU/USA of this.)

Becker did reference Liboff, Beck (only in reference to EMF weaponry

uses, not any of Beck's work based on Kaali electrification and HIV),

Tesla, various Russia researchers, but none of the Russians associated

with PEMF.

Question: was Becker aware of Rife and PEMF work in general? Anyone

know of any Becker statements about him or her and what he did say?

Got a source?

Does anyone have known of any equivalent research any anyone with

credentials like Becker, concerning the pros and cons of PEMF

in animal or human studies?

Today and this week, I will be asking any and all I know these

questions, as I seek to find answers. I need to get some answers to

these before moving forward with my work with PEMF in BEM use in

Africa or anywhere!!

I am encouraged by Liboff's work with weak ELF uses for treatments,

but not with AIDS, as AIDS is a syndrome and not a specific set of

PEMF related ailments that can be addressed, as far as I can find out.

I am increasingly swayed toward the idea the EMF via Tesla now

operational weapons being used by several city-states, and that the

USA is far-r-r behind them. That except for one small city-state

that likes America, we could today be a once-upon-a-time if not for

their intervention in the silent war of EMF attacks made to date.

And, finally, that AIDS just might be a man-made condition, a field

test of EMF induced disease in Africa, demonstrating the horrendous

potential of this technology. (Beck makes many references to this,

but only shades of Bearden horror stories, the latter being the

Sky-is-falling on this one, but with a background and credentials that

do put oomph into his conclusions.)

Given all this, any suggestions for someone to read, books to access,

persons to discuss this with, or your own insights on this, it would

be appreciated. I particularly look forward to MacLeod, Bare,

N. Sylva and others known for their depth of understanding of Rife

technologies, history and use. Or anyone else with knowledge in this

field that could direct me toward greater understanding in this field.

Hell, I FINALLY found a funder. Then whilst deciding whether or not

to go the extra mile by writing the full business plan to gain high

likelihood to full funding, my own research has thrown serious doubts

into PEMF and into its treatment of HIV, or AIDS specifically. Blood

electrification of the " V " in HIV could not solve AIDS, as it is not a

root cause, too infrequently found in actual AIDS cases to be valid.

Plus the set of conditions that summed together to be called AIDS

makes it a syndrome and not a treatable disease.

AIDS is a set of different conditions, most likely malnutrition,

internal parasites and toxins and external conditions found around

Africa whereby addressing them is a complex cloth of health outside

any single treatment and a set of cultural, economic and political

changes within a given area allowing the people to live a healthy life.

I can imagine that a Rife/Bare plasma approach could be very

effective, if it can be demonstrated that a range of time-phased

frequencies could have positive effects to promoting the regenerative

and immune system in good ways, allowing the body to recover via a

cold start or warm boot, access to the body's natural ability to

address certain non-self conditions causing non healthy conditions to

prevail.

I can imagine redesigning the project based on a revised PEMF or

similar BEM with excellent results for a known ailment in Africa that

threatens life, if coupled with some affordable and adaptable

nutrition approach appropriate to Africa. But any such regiment, if

more than A+B, will fail. There are too many cultural, social and

economic factors to be overcome. Either BEM or PEMF works or it does

not. It would help to have a solid winner and not just another

treatment that works more like a placebo, 30% of the time.

Oh well, your guidance, any thoughtful or heart felt response, would

be very much appreciated.

Sincerely,

Noël de Florida

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Hi Noël,

Just some thoughts and observations FWIW... The doubts you harbor may

be at least partially resolved if you gain more personal experience

with Rife-like technologies. If you used a Rife/Bare system like I

do, and had the experiences like I have had, then you would more

directly and personally perceive the substantial opportunities for

healing as well as the challenge of identifying an appropriate

frequency set for a particular condition. Even if " AIDS " in Africa is

not what some say it is, there is still an opportunity to benefit the

health of many Africans. As I see it, what Bearden or Becker say

probably will not help Africans anywhere near as much as some often-

used Rife-like machines would. Perhaps larger practical concerns

would be how to provide power and spare parts for a Rife/Bare or

other system when working in outlying rural areas, and how the

machines should be portable and ruggedly constructed to withstand

rough handling and environment.

It seems like you have created a highly meaningful task for yourself.

After gaining hands-on experience and seeing what does or does not

work well you may then feel more confident to proceed forward, even

in the absence of formal studies.

Best wishes,

Warren Rekow

EMF: Enigma in a mystery in vortex of a paradox

My proposal for doing EMF therapy against HIV/AIDS and malaria has

been put on hold again. Several new bits of information have come

into my consciousness and I hesitate to move forward.

First, the increasingly dubious link between HIV and AIDS and the

whole mis-information behind it and how it is used to control people.

Two, trying to reconcile what Becker says about EMF and EMR in

his must read Boby Electric book, which I only read recently and

thoroughly enjoyed for its research, quality and style of writing and

well presented points.

For now, I want to request from this group more insights into

understanding EMF via Rife, why Becker does not mention Rife, Priore

or any key players in the Rife movement or the work being done in

treatments.

Third, his extensive research into EMF and any related works about the

use of electrification for treatment in regenerative systems and

immune system work, down to the cellular levels, then as applied to

bone and wound healing and various ailments including arthritis,

cancer and more. Becker concludes from his work and the research,

that ELF frequencies and radiation, and much of the work by Abe Liboff

and others in this range, especially using the earth's own ELF has

great value; i.e., the weak fields and energy levels using

simultaneously with the known fields generated within the earth's

magnetic fields has value.

He further conclude that many of the EMF frequencies above the ELF

range have many dangerous effects on the cellular activity within the

body, based on research done around the world, actually promotes

cancer and parasitic growth up to six times, even under short term

exposures and causes confusion within the immune system signals, to

the point of creating immune deficiency syndromes!

I have noted almost all such references within his book. My

presentation may be off above, but on review it captures the tone and

fact of what he says: he does not encourage any applied EMF of pulsed

or non pulsed frequencies within the human body without extensive

study on the good and bad, as he has identified enough of the bad to

concern him very deeply!! (He writes a lot about ELF and EMF

assaulting the body in society and this explains the WHO extensive

work on their deleterious effects today, plus denial by EU/USA of this.)

Becker did reference Liboff, Beck (only in reference to EMF weaponry

uses, not any of Beck's work based on Kaali electrification and HIV),

Tesla, various Russia researchers, but none of the Russians associated

with PEMF.

Question: was Becker aware of Rife and PEMF work in general? Anyone

know of any Becker statements about him or her and what he did say?

Got a source?

Does anyone have known of any equivalent research any anyone with

credentials like Becker, concerning the pros and cons of PEMF

in animal or human studies?

Today and this week, I will be asking any and all I know these

questions, as I seek to find answers. I need to get some answers to

these before moving forward with my work with PEMF in BEM use in

Africa or anywhere!!

I am encouraged by Liboff's work with weak ELF uses for treatments,

but not with AIDS, as AIDS is a syndrome and not a specific set of

PEMF related ailments that can be addressed, as far as I can find out.

I am increasingly swayed toward the idea the EMF via Tesla now

operational weapons being used by several city-states, and that the

USA is far-r-r behind them. That except for one small city-state

that likes America, we could today be a once-upon-a-time if not for

their intervention in the silent war of EMF attacks made to date.

And, finally, that AIDS just might be a man-made condition, a field

test of EMF induced disease in Africa, demonstrating the horrendous

potential of this technology. (Beck makes many references to this,

but only shades of Bearden horror stories, the latter being the

Sky-is-falling on this one, but with a background and credentials that

do put oomph into his conclusions.)

Given all this, any suggestions for someone to read, books to access,

persons to discuss this with, or your own insights on this, it would

be appreciated. I particularly look forward to MacLeod, Bare,

N. Sylva and others known for their depth of understanding of Rife

technologies, history and use. Or anyone else with knowledge in this

field that could direct me toward greater understanding in this field.

Hell, I FINALLY found a funder. Then whilst deciding whether or not

to go the extra mile by writing the full business plan to gain high

likelihood to full funding, my own research has thrown serious doubts

into PEMF and into its treatment of HIV, or AIDS specifically. Blood

electrification of the " V " in HIV could not solve AIDS, as it is not a

root cause, too infrequently found in actual AIDS cases to be valid.

Plus the set of conditions that summed together to be called AIDS

makes it a syndrome and not a treatable disease.

AIDS is a set of different conditions, most likely malnutrition,

internal parasites and toxins and external conditions found around

Africa whereby addressing them is a complex cloth of health outside

any single treatment and a set of cultural, economic and political

changes within a given area allowing the people to live a healthy life.

I can imagine that a Rife/Bare plasma approach could be very

effective, if it can be demonstrated that a range of time-phased

frequencies could have positive effects to promoting the regenerative

and immune system in good ways, allowing the body to recover via a

cold start or warm boot, access to the body's natural ability to

address certain non-self conditions causing non healthy conditions to

prevail.

I can imagine redesigning the project based on a revised PEMF or

similar BEM with excellent results for a known ailment in Africa that

threatens life, if coupled with some affordable and adaptable

nutrition approach appropriate to Africa. But any such regiment, if

more than A+B, will fail. There are too many cultural, social and

economic factors to be overcome. Either BEM or PEMF works or it does

not. It would help to have a solid winner and not just another

treatment that works more like a placebo, 30% of the time.

Oh well, your guidance, any thoughtful or heart felt response, would

be very much appreciated.

Sincerely,

Noël de Florida

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> First, the increasingly dubious link between HIV and AIDS and the

> whole mis-information behind it and how it is used to control people.

>

You are mistaken the connections is very well known, and is the aim of

all succesful treatements for AIDS. Attacking the virus does reduce

symptoms.

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Your thoughts and ideas are much appreciated. Actually I did my own

Rifing for awhile using a computer, amp, etc.---the poor man's Rife.

Plus experimented with zapping, used a Vibe machine.

Plus, my expereience in Africa brought about, get this, writing the

book on using microcomputers in remote areas, and how to keep them

alive. did this in the '80's. I am very familiar with keeping

technology alive in Africa, etc., working within different cultures,

etc.

One of the issues is that Africans have been 'helped' by scam artist,

con artist, religious zealots, all coming in and impacting their

lives, under false hopes.

Taking Rife over there and not having any real effect would just add

to that woo...

So my request for anyone responding with success as requested is most

sincere. I sure would like to see Rife be it for any of the seeming

pandemics in AFrica. If it were so, I am close to getting THAT

technology over there in a manner that could make a difference,

especially compared to the inept approaches being used so far!!

Sincerely,

Noel

>

> Hi Noël,

> Just some thoughts and observations FWIW... The doubts you harbor may

> be at least partially resolved if you gain more personal experience

> with Rife-like technologies. If you used a Rife/Bare system like I

> do, and had the experiences like I have had, then you would more

> directly and personally perceive the substantial opportunities for

> healing as well as the challenge of identifying an appropriate

> frequency set for a particular condition. Even if " AIDS " in Africa is

> not what some say it is, there is still an opportunity to benefit the

> health of many Africans. As I see it, what Bearden or Becker say

> probably will not help Africans anywhere near as much as some often-

> used Rife-like machines would. Perhaps larger practical concerns

> would be how to provide power and spare parts for a Rife/Bare or

> other system when working in outlying rural areas, and how the

> machines should be portable and ruggedly constructed to withstand

> rough handling and environment.

>

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Then we agree to disagree. Too many AIDS cases, the majority in

Africa, do not have HIV for HIV to be taken as a causal link.

This has been documented too many times in too many African countries.

AIDS root cause is not the V in HIV.

Just some thoughts for your consideration:

A biochemist named Kary Mullis was driving along a California mountain

road when he had an aha! experience akin to Newton's with the apple

and Archimedes' in the bathtub. Mullis immediately pulled off the

road, awakened his sleeping girlfriend, and told her that he suddenly

knew how to replicate DNA.

It was a problem that had been vexing scientists and, as it turned

out, Mullis was right. His insight into the polymerase chain reaction

won him the 1993 Nobel Prize for Chemistry and led to the invention of

DNA-replicating machines and the tests they make possible, including

the one for HIV antibodies.This is simply by way of establishing the

impeccable scientific credentials of Dr. Kary Mullis. Because when

someone of his stature questions whether the HIV virus causes AIDS, we

should probably listen.

Huh? Of course HIV causes AIDS, we all know that, don't we? The CDC

tells us so, the media tell us so, our doctors tell us so. End of

story.Well, actually not. There is a sizeable, and growing, chorus of

dissenting voices. And unlike many groups that challenge an entrenched

mainstream belief, this one does not consist of loudmouths with fringe

credentials. It is made up of pre-eminent scientists with rock-solid

reputations.

Among dozens of others, in addition to Kary Mullis, we find Dr.

Duesberg of UC Berkeley, one of the world's leading molecular

biologists; Dr. Heinz Ludwig Sänger, emeritus professor of molecular

biology and virology at the Max-Planck-Institute in Munich, Germany;

Dr. Eleni Papadopulos-Eleopulos, professor of medical physics at

Australia's Royal Perth Hospital; Dr. Walter Gilbert, 1980 Nobel prize

winner for his work on DNA sequencing; and Dr. Gordon ,

professor emeritus of public health at Glasgow University and a former

AIDS adviser to the World Health Organization.Impressive, and that's

just the short list.

So, what are these men and women saying?Kary Mullis: " If there is

evidence that HIV causes AIDS, there should be scientific documents

which either singly or collectively demonstrate that fact, at least

with a high probability. There is no such document. "

This is only ONE reason why I am not buying the HIV causes AIDS.

So if any Rifer has clinical proof of curing AIDS, I am more

interested in curing HIV. But any case history info would be appreciated.

Sincerely

Noel

> >

>

> > First, the increasingly dubious link between HIV and AIDS and the

> > whole mis-information behind it and how it is used to control people.

> >

>

> You are mistaken the connections is very well known, and is the aim of

> all succesful treatements for AIDS. Attacking the virus does reduce

> symptoms.

>

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