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I think we all have a right to be mad. Anger is what effects change. I'm

still maddest at my father for being a narcissistic wimp. But I never say

anything to him anymore because whenever I do it all comes back on me. It

felt good to hear my youngest brother and sister admit they saw the

differences in the treatment. In fact they have stuck up for me many times

to my dad. But if I hadn't been who I was I probably wouldn't have been

as good a Sunday School teacher as I was. I remember what it was like to

feel awkward and unsure. With my SS kids I work very hard to make them all

feel special. I have my hypervigilance....I'm afraid when I don't feel in

control...I detest any type of conflict...I used to be very, very shy. I

always wonder what I could have done if I hadn't spent the first half of my

life running blindly.

We are all like diamonds who have withstood the tremendous pressure of the

earth. Brilliant inside once we get past the dirt and grime that made us

this way.

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>

> On my good days, I don't regret my ordeal. When I look at myself

and assess

> my strengths and weaknesses, I have many strengths that I are a

direct

> result of being a KO. Strengths that my coworkers and friends

don't have.

> But it's really hard when I'm dealing with my fleas and their

effect on my

> life.

>

>

Thanks for putting it so clearly ...... Obviously we all have

been tried in the fire...and that makes us special in different ways.

I have my know it all cousin who embraces all her mother's mistakes

and will not even say " What the hell was mom thinking? " I see the

mistakes and don't like them. I see them as life mistakes. I don't

necessarily spend too much time regretting them. I can see how

tragedy turns into something else.

I cannot discount the pain and suffering though that was needless and

never accounted for. I think all that stinks and am willing to stay

mad as long as I need to.

I can see the effects of the rotten childhood on me. There is good

stuff and bad stuff. Good stuff is a strong intuition about my kids

and how to protect them. Bad stuff is hypervigilance and fear of

catastrophe.

I had such a sense of catastrophe that when 9/11 happened, I felt

that finally my inner world and outer world were balanced. I was

surprised by that...that I was that freaked out internally.

Kathleen

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Kathleen, from reading your posts you had such a horrific childhood. And to

find your first husband after he committed suicide. I can't imagine. I

used to dream about the peacefulness of death also. Now sometimes I feel

really envious of the people who hibernate from life. If I could go in my

house, close the door, and be totally alone for 1 week. We were talking at

lunch today about what is a good vacation to people. Most everybody loved

to go someplace and do something different. I said to me a good vacation is

being at home, going to the pool, and relaxing. I spent my whole childhood

moving from one place to another...from one state to another, that now I

don't want to go anywhere.

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> My nada used to always threaten suicide. >

>

This is a famous plot in my FOO> My Filipino great grandfather

(abusive beast) killed himself by drinking muriatic acid. My

grandmother (Filipino side) always threatened to kill herself by

drinking Lysol (would that work?). My nada didn't threaten suicide,

but she would often shout about being dead. Now she goes on about how

her time is running out.

Her sister, aunty-nada tried (?) to kill herself when she was living

with her liar womanizing husband....and she ended up in the hospital

and had to have psychiatric care to be released. I always wondered if

it was a dramatic scene gone wrong.

My brother recently tried to kill himself, and my sister who was bad

split also tried to OD when she was splitting from her husband.

Personally, I've never tried to kill myself, but there was a point

after being widowed and when I was in a rocky time with then

boyfriend now husband....that I was in such emotional distress that I

would dream of drifting off into the peace of death because life was

too painful. It was more thinking that it was just so hard.

Kathleen

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In a message dated 7/2/02 12:16:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

lonewolfe30@... writes:

> I'm gonna write Oprah sometime soon! She's always been an

> advocate of the unheard. Whatyathink about that one?

>

Great idea! Maybe she'd have us on and we could enlighten the world!

Hugs,

Debbie

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In a message dated 7/2/02 12:16:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

lonewolfe30@... writes:

> It's based on the this poem with

> wearing a red hat and a purple so that they don't match...but they're

> old enough to do it and be happy.

I have this poem somewhere...give me a few days and I'll post it!

Debbie

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In a message dated 7/2/02 9:35:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

thanksforthisday@... writes:

> that I was in such emotional distress that I

> would dream of drifting off into the peace of death because life was

> too painful. It was more thinking that it was just so hard.

>

I felt this way when I was divorcing my first (abusive) husband. I was so

tired of being hurt and having to suck it up to take care of a small child

with no help. It seemed like going to bed and never waking up would be a

fabulous solution. Luckily, I had enough fear of xh to refuse to die and

leave my baby to be raised by him! So I kept waking up every morning and

eventually it stopped sucking....and a little further down the road I started

to actually look forward to what the day would bring.

Hugs,

Debbie

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In a message dated 7/3/02 2:09:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

lonewolfe30@... writes:

> Thanks. I'll be

> gone until next week for the 4th weekend- Denver for my hubby's b-day.

>

Kere,

Happy birthday to dear hubby! I am leaving tomorrow for NYC and then heading

upstate. I'll be back Monday and will post the poem.

Hugs,

Debbie

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Debbie,

Oh cool. I've been wanting to get ahold of that copy again sometime

and never can find it now that I'm looking for it. Thanks. I'll be

gone until next week for the 4th weekend- Denver for my hubby's b-day.

Kere

> In a message dated 7/2/02 12:16:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> lonewolfe30@y... writes:

>

>

> > It's based on the this poem with

> > wearing a red hat and a purple so that they don't match...but

they're

> > old enough to do it and be happy.

>

> I have this poem somewhere...give me a few days and I'll post it!

>

> Debbie

>

>

>

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