Guest guest Posted June 19, 2003 Report Share Posted June 19, 2003 In a message dated 6/19/03 2:10:12 PM Central Daylight Time, inthesilence2002@... writes: << e, nice satsang. Namaste, Gloria Thought arose: " Who would we be without our " needs " ? >> woman sitting in chair at computer smiling at good people sharing great thoughts...... namaste back atcha, Carol ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2003 Report Share Posted June 19, 2003 taylor wrote: > Hi Al1, says: " People don't love, they want > something. " > > Namaste All! > > taylore Thank you for this one line. Sometimes when I say I love someone - I can feel my personality's needs lurking in the background....This quote is just such a nice reminder to be lurking right back to catch it! Thanks - Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2003 Report Share Posted June 20, 2003 " Love isn't something you do -- you ARE Love. " See this, be this, then all work is over. Dan > Everyone, > > I am so profoundly grateful for the messages that have been offered > amongst us these past few days and have the story that each of you > somehow deserves a separate comment from ME (like that's going to > make your day!). And I realized a few minutes ago that the responses > and exchanges are all me with the names Margaret, Heidi, Laurie, > , Carol . . . > > When I am still and quiet inside there is awareness that " I " am Love > and actually the " I " disappears in the moment that this awareness > becomes everything and nothing. It is not a doing or an action or a > movement. has said this and I can experience this from time to > time. " Love isn't something you do -- you ARE Love. " > > Loving What Is is being everything (and hence, nothing or no thing or > non-dual). > > Nowingness is Love, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2003 Report Share Posted June 20, 2003 Dear Dan, You wrote: > " Love isn't something you do -- you ARE Love. " > > > See this, be this, then all work is over. > > Dan > Yes, Dan, I hear you. says the same thing: " Love is not a doing. " Papaji says this, Gangaji, sages throughout the ages have siad it. How to see it? For some of us, inquiry is the way to opening the mind to what the heart already knows (or so we've been told it knows). Some of us need four questions and a turnaround...until we don't. The Work is over when it is...and not because of a spiritual idea that we like but don't yet experience. Speaking for myself, I love The Work because I don't have to pretend to be something I am not. For now I am not a " see this, be this. " I am one who thinks she needs a process. For me that is less stressful than, " I should be living this truth, now, " when I am not there yet. We all enjoy our own flavors of freedom, and our own paths to getting there. I am peaceful with that, are you? Love, Carol > > > Everyone, > > > > I am so profoundly grateful for the messages that have been offered > > amongst us these past few days and have the story that each of you > > somehow deserves a separate comment from ME (like that's going to > > make your day!). And I realized a few minutes ago that the > responses > > and exchanges are all me with the names Margaret, Heidi, Laurie, > > , Carol . . . > > > > When I am still and quiet inside there is awareness that " I " am Love > > and actually the " I " disappears in the moment that this awareness > > becomes everything and nothing. It is not a doing or an action or a > > movement. has said this and I can experience this from time > to > > time. " Love isn't something you do -- you ARE Love. " > > > > Loving What Is is being everything (and hence, nothing or no thing > or > > non-dual). > > > > Nowingness is Lo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2003 Report Share Posted June 20, 2003 In a message dated 6/20/03 10:15:10 AM Central Daylight Time, Sput6@... writes: << Speaking for myself, I love The Work because I don't have to pretend to be something I am not. For now I am not a " see this, be this. " I am one who thinks she needs a process. For me that is less stressful than, " I should be living this truth, now, " when I am not there yet. >> Thank you for speaking that Truth Carol. I was just saying that the other day.... you could hear a cliche 100 times and then all of a sudden when you are ready it's like Ohhhhhhhh okay.... and you really get it on the deepest of levels.... life will be that easy to just read it and know it...when it is I guess :-) Carol ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2003 Report Share Posted June 20, 2003 Hi All What does the statement " you are love " mean? Again, I would like to understand better what people mean when they say the word " love " especially in that sentence. Namaste e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2003 Report Share Posted June 20, 2003 Hi C and all Since you asked: to me love is unconditional acceptance. I see this word used a lot on this site and It looks like what says: People don't love, they want something. It has been a good reminder to me not to use that word loosely so that it doen't become a cliche (which lose the power and significance) or a way of saying " I want you to like me, I approve of you and want you to know that, I need you, I am a " thing " (love), . Or in the negative, He doesn't love me (doesn't give me what I need, etc.). I believe that words have power. The Bible says that the first thing was the " word " . To me this is how we " create a reality " through our words. They are hypnotic keeping us often in a trance without our awareness. If I say " I love you " I don't want it to mean " You're OK " ; on the other hand also says, " I love you, I don't " " Now I love you, now I don't " so I must remain vigilant to walk the razor's edge of " unconditional " and if that sounds dire, the payoff is that when I don't " unconditionally love " only I suffer and I am also given the opportunity to do the work. Wow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2003 Report Share Posted June 20, 2003 Dear e, Hi and welcome! What does it mean to *you* when you say " love, " especially in that sentence? I have a " head " definition of love=God=what is, reality, so if I'm not separate from that, I would have to be love too...and I don't really know what I'm talking about because most of the time I confuse love with gazing into someone's eyes -- a lover, a baby, , whatever -- and feeling contented because I project that they care about me and accept me and they are also attractive to me in some way. There's got to be more to it (or less to it) than that and I imagine real " love " does not depend on another or anything outer, or any concept like " God. " Babbling here... Love (?), Carol > Hi All > > What does the statement " you are love " mean? Again, I would like to > understand better what people mean when they say the word " love " especially in that > sentence. > > Namaste > > e > > > [Non-text portions of this message have bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2003 Report Share Posted June 20, 2003 Love,------.hmmm. Mostly to me it means being OK in the moment. So what does OK mean? It means peaceful, open, engaging, free energy back and forth--- being really present. Yeah--sounds " lovely " to me. When driving in my car, on the busy California freeways, alone, I was listening to the tape of loving one person more than another, same thing-- different folks--- Then it dawned on me. When I am with another and really " present " , do I want to be with the " one I love more " ? No, I really do not! This for me was big as I was comparing my kids! I would do anything for them! I love them totally! (or so I thought) It was wonderful to notice that they too are loveable because I get to be present so often with them. I keep hearing that song.... " Love the one your with " ...... something like " if you can't be with the one you want -----love the one your with. " Often that is just me! And it works. What is in front of me is what gets the attention, sometimes. Love (yes I see ME there on the screen! ) ME ME ME....... April Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2003 Report Share Posted June 20, 2003 On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 03:35:29PM -0400, taylorehaver@... wrote: > What does the statement " you are love " mean? Again, I would like to > understand better what people mean when they say the word " love " > especially in that sentence. It seems likely that different people have different meanings when they make that statement. Barry Kaufman wrote book called, " To Love Is To Be Happy With. " That definition works for me. Based on that, " Loving What Is " could also be stated as " Being Happy With What Is. " " I love you " could be restated " I am happy with you. " " You are love " could be " You are [one who is] happy [with what is]. " For me, this brings up the stuff I've read here recently about using the Work as escape from pain, or using the Work to be in denial and avoid what's really going on with me. I think it may be related to what the poll-poster was getting at (whether rhetoric or reality is more important). Here's something I wrote in my journal this morning: What's going on with me is my story. Not denying what's going on with me means acknowledging my story. Not being trapped by my story means seeing through it, not buying in to it, recognizing my freedom in the face of my story. I can use the Work or Option or chanting or drugs or work or anything to avoid my story, or... I can decide that the Work (or Option or chanting or ...) is an illegitimate escape and stay caught in my story (and be proud that I'm not in denial , or... I can acknowledge the story *and* see that it has no power over me. -- Tom Barron | " It is better to debate a question without settling tbarron@... | it than to settle a question without debating it. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2003 Report Share Posted June 20, 2003 Cool Tom. I like that definition. It sure is different from the romanticized definition though isn't it? - Re: Re: Love On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 03:35:29PM -0400, taylorehaver@... wrote: > What does the statement " you are love " mean? Again, I would like to > understand better what people mean when they say the word " love " > especially in that sentence. It seems likely that different people have different meanings when they make that statement. Barry Kaufman wrote book called, " To Love Is To Be Happy With. " That definition works for me. Based on that, " Loving What Is " could also be stated as " Being Happy With What Is. " " I love you " could be restated " I am happy with you. " " You are love " could be " You are [one who is] happy [with what is]. " For me, this brings up the stuff I've read here recently about using the Work as escape from pain, or using the Work to be in denial and avoid what's really going on with me. I think it may be related to what the poll-poster was getting at (whether rhetoric or reality is more important). Here's something I wrote in my journal this morning: What's going on with me is my story. Not denying what's going on with me means acknowledging my story. Not being trapped by my story means seeing through it, not buying in to it, recognizing my freedom in the face of my story. I can use the Work or Option or chanting or drugs or work or anything to avoid my story, or... I can decide that the Work (or Option or chanting or ...) is an illegitimate escape and stay caught in my story (and be proud that I'm not in denial , or... I can acknowledge the story *and* see that it has no power over me. -- Tom Barron | " It is better to debate a question without settling tbarron@... | it than to settle a question without debating it. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2003 Report Share Posted June 21, 2003 <<Barry Kaufman wrote book called, " To Love Is To Be Happy With. " That definition works for me.>> Thankyou so much for posting this definition, Tom. I really needed it today. I have been looking for a definition of love for a long time and this one really hit home. Got some news today, and this is really helping me process it. Thankyou. Love PT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2003 Report Share Posted June 22, 2003 On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 03:40:35PM +1000, Pagendam- wrote: > > > <<Barry Kaufman wrote book called, " To Love Is To Be Happy With. " That > definition works for me.>> > > Thankyou so much for posting this definition, Tom. I really needed it > today. I have been looking for a definition of love for a long time and > this one really hit home. Got some news today, and this is really > helping me process it. Thankyou. I'm so glad it was helpful, . Thank you for letting me know. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2005 Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 Love is friendship that has caught fire. It is quiet understanding, mutual confidence, sharing and forgiving. It is loyaltly through good and bad times. It settles for less than perfection and makes allowances for human weaknesses. Love is content with the present, it hopes for the future, and it does not brood over the past. It's the day-in and day-out chronicle of irritations, problems, compromises, small disappointments, big victories and working toward common goals. If you have love in your life, it can make up for a great many things that are missing. If you don't have love in your life, no matter what else there is, it's not enough. Ann Landers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 I was once madly in love with a Buddhist girl. It felt as if I had never desired anyone so much and if she had said yes I would have been exstactic. I knew there would have been a lot of sex, though, because her buddhist order frowned upon it, or even male female relationships. Also, desire and passion was considered bad. I still really wanted her, though - she was special. Kaivey > > I was inlove and I loved that man so much I would never have left him no matter > what if we have been together I would have stayed with him if he had turned > impotent I would have stayed with him, that is love! some people on here think > think that everyone is shallow, that sex is so important , but love is more > important, I would rather have been with that guy and never had sex than have > been with anyone else and had loads of sex, that is how much I loved him, love > has no bounderies, people marry they take vows they remain faithful to the end > no matter what life throws at them, that is love, there is hope for each and > every one of us to meet someone like that, even if we cannot feel love anymore > we might know that we would have felt love for that person and that we want to > be with them, they would still love us they would still want to be with us pssd > or not, love is healing, love can find a way to get through perhaps, maybe it is > possible for us to fall inlove even though we are damaged, I do not know but I > have noticed that some on here are seeing things in a rather odd light, that > everyone is so obsessed with sex and nobody would want us if we couldnt have > sex, I do not believe that to be true, stop thinking of all the girls you could > be laying, that is not real that is not the way it should be anyway, start > thinking more of finding one partner that you want to spend the rest of your > life with, not everyone is that shallow that sex is so important. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 Excellent post, . Many good points. > > I was inlove and I loved that man so much I would never have left him no matter > what if we have been together I would have stayed with him if he had turned > impotent I would have stayed with him, that is love! some people on here think > think that everyone is shallow, that sex is so important , but love is more > important, I would rather have been with that guy and never had sex than have > been with anyone else and had loads of sex, that is how much I loved him, love > has no bounderies, people marry they take vows they remain faithful to the end > no matter what life throws at them, that is love, there is hope for each and > every one of us to meet someone like that, even if we cannot feel love anymore > we might know that we would have felt love for that person and that we want to > be with them, they would still love us they would still want to be with us pssd > or not, love is healing, love can find a way to get through perhaps, maybe it is > possible for us to fall inlove even though we are damaged, I do not know but I > have noticed that some on here are seeing things in a rather odd light, that > everyone is so obsessed with sex and nobody would want us if we couldnt have > sex, I do not believe that to be true, stop thinking of all the girls you could > be laying, that is not real that is not the way it should be anyway, start > thinking more of finding one partner that you want to spend the rest of your > life with, not everyone is that shallow that sex is so important. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 I agree.  Thank you .  Subject: Re: loveTo: SSRIsex Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 7:33 PM  Excellent post, . Many good points. > > I was inlove and I loved that man so much I would never have left him no matter > what if we have been together I would have stayed with him if he had turned > impotent I would have stayed with him, that is love! some people on here think > think that everyone is shallow, that sex is so important , but love is more > important, I would rather have been with that guy and never had sex than have > been with anyone else and had loads of sex, that is how much I loved him, love > has no bounderies, people marry they take vows they remain faithful to the end > no matter what life throws at them, that is love, there is hope for each and > every one of us to meet someone like that, even if we cannot feel love anymore > we might know that we would have felt love for that person and that we want to > be with them, they would still love us they would still want to be with us pssd > or not, love is healing, love can find a way to get through perhaps, maybe it is > possible for us to fall inlove even though we are damaged, I do not know but I > have noticed that some on here are seeing things in a rather odd light, that > everyone is so obsessed with sex and nobody would want us if we couldnt have > sex, I do not believe that to be true, stop thinking of all the girls you could > be laying, that is not real that is not the way it should be anyway, start > thinking more of finding one partner that you want to spend the rest of your > life with, not everyone is that shallow that sex is so important. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 thanks I was pleased to write down my true thoughts To: SSRIsex Sent: Wed, August 25, 2010 9:48:48 PMSubject: Re: Re: love I agree. Thank you . Subject: Re: loveTo: SSRIsex Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 7:33 PM Excellent post, . Many good points.>> I was inlove and I loved that man so much I would never have left himno matter> what if we have been together I would have stayed with him if he hadturned> impotent I would have stayed with him, that is love! some people onhere think> think that everyone is shallow, that sex is so important , but love ismore> important, I would rather have been with that guy and never had sexthan have> been with anyone else and had loads of sex, that is how much I lovedhim, love> has no bounderies, people marry they take vows they remain faithful tothe end> no matter what life throws at them, that is love, there is hope foreach and> every one of us to meet someone like that, even if we cannot feel loveanymore> we might know that we would have felt love for that person and that wewant to> be with them, they would still love us they would still want to bewith us pssd> or not, love is healing, love can find a way to get through perhaps,maybe it is> possible for us to fall inlove even though we are damaged, I do notknow but I> have noticed that some on here are seeing things in a rather oddlight, that> everyone is so obsessed with sex and nobody would want us if wecouldnt have> sex, I do not believe that to be true, stop thinking of all the girlsyou could> be laying, that is not real that is not the way it should be anyway,start> thinking more of finding one partner that you want to spend the restof your> life with, not everyone is that shallow that sex is so important.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 I think when you are inlove with a person you love being with them no matter what. To: SSRIsex Sent: Wed, August 25, 2010 7:38:51 PMSubject: Re: love I was once madly in love with a Buddhist girl. It felt as if I had never desired anyone so much and if she had said yes I would have been exstactic. I knew there would have been a lot of sex, though, because her buddhist order frowned upon it, or even male female relationships. Also, desire and passion was considered bad. I still really wanted her, though - she was special.Kaivey>> I was inlove and I loved that man so much I would never have left him no matter > what if we have been together I would have stayed with him if he had turned > impotent I would have stayed with him, that is love! some people on here think > think that everyone is shallow, that sex is so important , but love is more > important, I would rather have been with that guy and never had sex than have > been with anyone else and had loads of sex, that is how much I loved him, love > has no bounderies, people marry they take vows they remain faithful to the end > no matter what life throws at them, that is love, there is hope for each and > every one of us to meet someone like that, even if we cannot feel love anymore > we might know that we would have felt love for that person and that we want to > be with them, they would still love us they would still want to be with us pssd > or not, love is healing, love can find a way to get through perhaps, maybe it is > possible for us to fall inlove even though we are damaged, I do not know but I > have noticed that some on here are seeing things in a rather odd light, that > everyone is so obsessed with sex and nobody would want us if we couldnt have > sex, I do not believe that to be true, stop thinking of all the girls you could > be laying, that is not real that is not the way it should be anyway, start > thinking more of finding one partner that you want to spend the rest of your > life with, not everyone is that shallow that sex is so important.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 To me it feels like the ability to fall in love is very interconnected with the sexual part of the brain and it has been too screwed up. Since i got pssd i havn't felt anything near that emotion. > >> > >> I was inlove and I loved that man so much I would never have left him > >no matter > >> what if we have been together I would have stayed with him if he had > >turned > >> impotent I would have stayed with him, that is love! some people on > >here think > >> think that everyone is shallow, that sex is so important , but love is > >more > >> important, I would rather have been with that guy and never had sex > >than have > >> been with anyone else and had loads of sex, that is how much I loved > >him, love > >> has no bounderies, people marry they take vows they remain faithful to > >the end > >> no matter what life throws at them, that is love, there is hope for > >each and > >> every one of us to meet someone like that, even if we cannot feel love > >anymore > >> we might know that we would have felt love for that person and that we > >want to > >> be with them, they would still love us they would still want to be > >with us pssd > >> or not, love is healing, love can find a way to get through perhaps, > >maybe it is > >> possible for us to fall inlove even though we are damaged, I do not > >know but I > >> have noticed that some on here are seeing things in a rather odd > >light, that > >> everyone is so obsessed with sex and nobody would want us if we > >couldnt have > >> sex, I do not believe that to be true, stop thinking of all the girls > >you could > >> be laying, that is not real that is not the way it should be anyway, > >start > >> thinking more of finding one partner that you want to spend the rest > >of your > >> life with, not everyone is that shallow that sex is so important. > >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 Well said . -M > >> > >> I was inlove and I loved that man so much I would never have left him > >no matter > >> what if we have been together I would have stayed with him if he had > >turned > >> impotent I would have stayed with him, that is love! some people on > >here think > >> think that everyone is shallow, that sex is so important , but love is > >more > >> important, I would rather have been with that guy and never had sex > >than have > >> been with anyone else and had loads of sex, that is how much I loved > >him, love > >> has no bounderies, people marry they take vows they remain faithful to > >the end > >> no matter what life throws at them, that is love, there is hope for > >each and > >> every one of us to meet someone like that, even if we cannot feel love > >anymore > >> we might know that we would have felt love for that person and that we > >want to > >> be with them, they would still love us they would still want to be > >with us pssd > >> or not, love is healing, love can find a way to get through perhaps, > >maybe it is > >> possible for us to fall inlove even though we are damaged, I do not > >know but I > >> have noticed that some on here are seeing things in a rather odd > >light, that > >> everyone is so obsessed with sex and nobody would want us if we > >couldnt have > >> sex, I do not believe that to be true, stop thinking of all the girls > >you could > >> be laying, that is not real that is not the way it should be anyway, > >start > >> thinking more of finding one partner that you want to spend the rest > >of your > >> life with, not everyone is that shallow that sex is so important. > >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 exactly melanie. unfortunately, men have a different take on it and think we feel the same way as they. when you are young , it's part of the attraction, the drama, the passion and arousal on both sexes. and as we age we develop different needs and wants, some men don't change and fewer women will change, but that is ego, self centeredness and imperfections with the psyche for whatever reason. and then came drugs (rx type) to try and change behaviors with the young, that causes other issues as we age and no one pays attention to the foods, environmental issues and obviously the power of the drugs and their attachment to receptors. now we have to find ways to boot them off the receptors but with aging , doesn't go as quickly as when you are younger. Keeper RNEnzyme Therapist love I was inlove and I loved that man so much I would never have left him no matter what if we have been together I would have stayed with him if he had turned impotent I would have stayed with him, that is love! some people on here think think that everyone is shallow, that sex is so important , but love is more important, I would rather have been with that guy and never had sex than have been with anyone else and had loads of sex, that is how much I loved him, love has no bounderies, people marry they take vows they remain faithful to the end no matter what life throws at them, that is love, there is hope for each and every one of us to meet someone like that, even if we cannot feel love anymore we might know that we would have felt love for that person and that we want to be with them, they would still love us they would still want to be with us pssd or not, love is healing, love can find a way to get through perhaps, maybe it is possible for us to fall inlove even though we are damaged, I do not know but I have noticed that some on here are seeing things in a rather odd light, that everyone is so obsessed with sex and nobody would want us if we couldnt have sex, I do not believe that to be true, stop thinking of all the girls you could be laying, that is not real that is not the way it should be anyway, start thinking more of finding one partner that you want to spend the rest of your life with, not everyone is that shallow that sex is so important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 I think there is something wrong with society today in general and a lot of people are becoming too sexually motivated, having affairs, etc there is too much porn on the internet which is giving men the wrong idea of what women are really like. To: SSRIsex Sent: Thu, August 26, 2010 5:06:32 AMSubject: Re: love exactly melanie. unfortunately, men have a different take on it and think we feel the same way as they. when you are young , it's part of the attraction, the drama, the passion and arousal on both sexes. and as we age we develop different needs and wants, some men don't change and fewer women will change, but that is ego, self centeredness and imperfections with the psyche for whatever reason. and then came drugs (rx type) to try and change behaviors with the young, that causes other issues as we age and no one pays attention to the foods, environmental issues and obviously the power of the drugs and their attachment to receptors. now we have to find ways to boot them off the receptors but with aging , doesn't go as quickly as when you are younger. Keeper RNEnzyme Therapist love I was inlove and I loved that man so much I would never have left him no matter what if we have been together I would have stayed with him if he had turned impotent I would have stayed with him, that is love! some people on here think think that everyone is shallow, that sex is so important , but love is more important, I would rather have been with that guy and never had sex than have been with anyone else and had loads of sex, that is how much I loved him, love has no bounderies, people marry they take vows they remain faithful to the end no matter what life throws at them, that is love, there is hope for each and every one of us to meet someone like that, even if we cannot feel love anymore we might know that we would have felt love for that person and that we want to be with them, they would still love us they would still want to be with us pssd or not, love is healing, love can find a way to get through perhaps, maybe it is possible for us to fall inlove even though we are damaged, I do not know but I have noticed that some on here are seeing things in a rather odd light, that everyone is so obsessed with sex and nobody would want us if we couldnt have sex, I do not believe that to be true, stop thinking of all the girls you could be laying, that is not real that is not the way it should be anyway, start thinking more of finding one partner that you want to spend the rest of your life with, not everyone is that shallow that sex is so important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 I agree with this point somewhat. Ted Bundy said that hardcore pornography altered his perception of women and sexual relationships so much that he blames it for what he eventually did. I agree that it definitely can happen and has happened to an extent. That's not to say that a high sexual motivation means anything is wrong in society, however. Men have enormous sex drives by nature, it's just a fact of this physical world we live in. More testosterone = more aggressive mating. It's true across the entire animal kingdom. I've often wondered if women truly understood how horny men can get. I have a hard time believing they do. Men get so horny that they will literally become suicidal if they don't get any. Sexual frustration is probably the biggest cause of depression and violence in men worldwide. That's how important sex is to a man. Not to get too graphic but I'm sure any man on this board can still remember himself throbbing with pleasure and how at that moment your entire mind is gone and all you can think of is something warm, moist, and tight and how you'd risk pretty much anything to get it. You are blaming the nature of man. At least this was my nature as a man before SSRI's. I wasn't sexually violent or forceful. I was just sex driven and dominant. I guess most feminists will say that is a bad thing in society but most of them can't shut the fuck up and just see the world for what it is. Another thing, I really don't like feminism. I feel like its butch women's way of dealing with rejection. I digress. Don't blame men for being men. Just let us be ourselves. And saying things like society has become " too sexually motivated " is like bargaining with yourself. Its like saying " well fuck since I can't have sex then that must mean sex sucks and everyone else is way too interested in it. " Absolutely not true, I'm sure none of us would be complaining if we had our junk back and using it none stop. I'm sure if I got it back right now I'd literally run outside and fuck the first willing girl right in the street. > > I think there is something wrong with society today in general and a lot of > people are becoming too sexually motivated, having affairs, etc there is too > much  porn on the internet which is giving men the wrong idea of what women are > really like. > > > > > > ________________________________ > > To: SSRIsex > Sent: Thu, August 26, 2010 5:06:32 AM > Subject: Re: love > >  > exactly melanie. > unfortunately, men have a different take on it and think we feel the same way as > they. > when you are young , it's part of the attraction, the drama, the passion and > arousal on both sexes. > and as we age we develop different needs and wants, some men don't change and > fewer women will change, but that is ego, self centeredness and imperfections > with the psyche for whatever reason. > and then came drugs (rx type) to try and change behaviors with the young, that > causes other issues as we age and no one pays attention to the foods, > environmental issues and obviously the power of the drugs and their attachment > to receptors. > > now we have to find ways to boot them off the receptors but with aging , doesn't > go as quickly > > as when you are younger. > > Keeper RN > Enzyme Therapist > love > > > > > >I was inlove and I loved that man so much I would never have left him no matter > >what if we have been together I would have stayed with him if he had turned > >impotent I would have stayed with him, that is love! some people on here think > >think that everyone is shallow, that sex is so important , but love is more > >important, I would rather have been with that guy and never had sex than have > >been with anyone else and had loads of sex, that is how much I loved him, love > >has no bounderies, people marry they take vows they remain faithful to the end > >no matter what life throws at them, that is love, there is hope for each and > >every one of us to meet someone like that, even if we cannot feel love anymore > >we might know that we would have felt love for that person and that we want to > >be with them, they would still love us they would still want to be with us pssd > >or not, love is healing, love can find a way to get through perhaps, maybe it is > >possible for us to fall inlove even though we are damaged, I do not know but I > >have noticed that some on here are seeing things in a rather odd light, that > >everyone is so obsessed with sex and nobody would want us if we couldnt have > >sex, I do not believe that to be true, stop thinking of all the girls you could > >be laying, that is not real that is not the way it should be anyway, start > >thinking more of finding one partner that you want to spend the rest of your > >life with, not everyone is that shallow that sex is so important. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Bob, If you read Freud, you will find that he understood how central sexuality was to the human psyche. However, he also understood how sexual repression has actually led to many of the best things in human society. The sexual instinct is sublimated into many spheres of activity, art and religious devotion come to mind. My point, is that even if we were normal and healthy, constant depletion of sexual energy in humans leads to lethargy and hedonism. No society can survive if it's members have all of their energy depleted through constant sexual gratification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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