Guest guest Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Excellent article on statins and how they do their damage. http://people.csail.mit.edu/seneff/statins_muscle_damage_heart_failure.html Bobby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Bobby What a brilliant article - if only we could get the health professionals to read and understand. When she talks about muscle cannibalisation - that's what's happened to me.It wasn't until I had a muscle biopsy and the surgeon couldn't find any - and the test came back that there was a problem - similar to Muscular Dystrophy - but not quite! well the Statin damaged are very familiar with this diagnosis!!!I know this has affected my large/small intestines and that I haven't got cancer -just hope that I can convince my bowel specialist. Anyone else out there got severe internal muscle damage like me? Love to hear from you. PamelaSP > > Excellent article on statins and how they do their damage. > > http://people.csail.mit.edu/seneff/statins_muscle_damage_heart_failure.html > > Bobby > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Pamela,There is no question of statins ability to destroy muscle tissue thru inhibiting the mevalonate pathway.I am 100% convinced we have stumbled upon an effective treatment for degenerative muscular diseases.Simply reverse the process of statins, and ENHANCE the mevalonate pathway by giving the very enzyme statins inhibit. Bobby Alternate email: marooned@...Bobby- Your Caribbean Travel Plannerwww.pinkystravel.com International Destinations, Resorts, Vacation PackagesPhilippine Destination SpecialistTo: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 10:12 AMSubject: Re: Wow! Great article. . Bobby What a brilliant article - if only we could get the health professionals to read and understand. When she talks about muscle cannibalisation - that's what's happened to me.It wasn't until I had a muscle biopsy and the surgeon couldn't find any - and the test came back that there was a problem - similar to Muscular Dystrophy - but not quite! well the Statin damaged are very familiar with this diagnosis!!!I know this has affected my large/small intestines and that I haven't got cancer -just hope that I can convince my bowel specialist. Anyone else out there got severe internal muscle damage like me? Love to hear from you. PamelaSP > > Excellent article on statins and how they do their damage. > > http://people.csail.mit.edu/seneff/statins_muscle_damage_heart_failure.html > > Bobby > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Okay Bobby I'm Taking 300mgs of COQ 10 daily -have been for the past 28 months - don't think it's reversing the process. > > > > Excellent article on statins and how they do their damage. > > > > http://people.csail.mit.edu/seneff/statins_muscle_damage_heart_failure.html > > > > Bobby > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 There are more products from the mevalonate pathway than just CoQ10, including LDL cholesterol which is the building blocks to healthy cells. Bobby Alternate email: marooned@...Bobby- Your Caribbean Travel Plannerwww.pinkystravel.com International Destinations, Resorts, Vacation PackagesPhilippine Destination SpecialistTo: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 12:04 PMSubject: Re: Wow! Great article. . Okay Bobby I'm Taking 300mgs of COQ 10 daily -have been for the past 28 months - don't think it's reversing the process. > > > > Excellent article on statins and how they do their damage. > > > > http://people.csail.mit.edu/seneff/statins_muscle_damage_heart_failure.html > > > > Bobby > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 I know of a website where you can purchase a natural supplement for choelsterol reduciton. Also, psychillian huks works really well. You can take about two table spoons in water ( at least 8 oz) 2 to 3 times per day. Also, fish oils but like 100 mgs per day. The cheaper fish oils usually have only 250 mgs per day, so you have to take at lease 4. But then you should really take more than 1000 mgs per day. It will offset the bad cholesterol even if it is high. To: "TakingLipitorAndHateIt " <TakingLipitorAndHateIt >Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 12:29 PMSubject: Re: Re: Wow! Great article. . Pamela, There is no question of statins ability to destroy muscle tissue thru inhibiting the mevalonate pathway. I am 100% convinced we have stumbled upon an effective treatment for degenerative muscular diseases. Simply reverse the process of statins, and ENHANCE the mevalonate pathway by giving the very enzyme statins inhibit. Bobby Alternate email: marooned@... Bobby- Your Caribbean Travel Planner www.pinkystravel.com International Destinations, Resorts, Vacation Packages Philippine Destination Specialist To: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 10:12 AMSubject: Re: Wow! Great article. . BobbyWhat a brilliant article - if only we could get the health professionals to read and understand. When she talks about muscle cannibalisation - that's what's happened to me.It wasn't until I had a muscle biopsy and the surgeon couldn't find any - and the test came back that there was a problem - similar to Muscular Dystrophy - but not quite! well the Statin damaged are very familiar with this diagnosis!!!I know this has affected my large/small intestines and that I haven't got cancer -just hope that I can convince my bowel specialist. Anyone else out there got severe internal muscle damage like me? Love to hear from you. PamelaSP >> Excellent article on statins and how they do their damage.> > http://people.csail.mit.edu/seneff/statins_muscle_damage_heart_failure.html> > Bobby> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 I love cholesterol. Alternate email: marooned@...Bobby- Your Caribbean Travel Plannerwww.pinkystravel.com International Destinations, Resorts, Vacation PackagesPhilippine Destination SpecialistTo: "TakingLipitorAndHateIt " <TakingLipitorAndHateIt >Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 8:31 PMSubject: Re: Re: Wow! Great article. . I know of a website where you can purchase a natural supplement for choelsterol reduciton. Also, psychillian huks works really well. You can take about two table spoons in water ( at least 8 oz) 2 to 3 times per day. Also, fish oils but like 100 mgs per day. The cheaper fish oils usually have only 250 mgs per day, so you have to take at lease 4. But then you should really take more than 1000 mgs per day. It will offset the bad cholesterol even if it is high. To: "TakingLipitorAndHateIt " <TakingLipitorAndHateIt >Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 12:29 PMSubject: Re: Re: Wow! Great article. . Pamela, There is no question of statins ability to destroy muscle tissue thru inhibiting the mevalonate pathway. I am 100% convinced we have stumbled upon an effective treatment for degenerative muscular diseases. Simply reverse the process of statins, and ENHANCE the mevalonate pathway by giving the very enzyme statins inhibit. Bobby Alternate email: marooned@... Bobby- Your Caribbean Travel Planner www.pinkystravel.com International Destinations, Resorts, Vacation Packages Philippine Destination Specialist To: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 10:12 AMSubject: Re: Wow! Great article. . BobbyWhat a brilliant article - if only we could get the health professionals to read and understand. When she talks about muscle cannibalisation - that's what's happened to me.It wasn't until I had a muscle biopsy and the surgeon couldn't find any - and the test came back that there was a problem - similar to Muscular Dystrophy - but not quite! well the Statin damaged are very familiar with this diagnosis!!!I know this has affected my large/small intestines and that I haven't got cancer -just hope that I can convince my bowel specialist. Anyone else out there got severe internal muscle damage like me? Love to hear from you. PamelaSP >> Excellent article on statins and how they do their damage.> > http://people.csail.mit.edu/seneff/statins_muscle_damage_heart_failure.html> > Bobby> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 I love cholesterol too - can't get mine high enough! Had the muscle biopsy earlier in the year and it proved the damage - lost 50% of my muscles with Statins and it hurts. Only on them 28 months - nearly died.PamelaSP > > > > Excellent article on statins and how they do > their damage. > > > > http://people.csail.mit.edu/seneff/statins_muscle_damage_heart_failure.html > > > > Bobby > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 Me too. The body needs cholesterol for hormone production, healthy arteries, even healthy cells. Interfering with a process central to one's health in the interest of an unproven theory that might produce minimal benefit seems the height of foolishness to me. Dave Turgeon I love cholesterol too - can't get mine high enough! Had the muscle biopsy earlier in the year and it proved the damage - lost 50% of my muscles with Statins and it hurts. Only on them 28 months - nearly died.PamelaSP > > > > Excellent article on statins and how they do > their damage. > > > > http://people.csail.mit.edu/seneff/statins_muscle_damage_heart_failure.html > > > > Bobby > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 I have seroiusly considered starting a " I love cholesterol" campaign.A Statin Victim I met thru medications. com used those words "I love cholesterol". Instantly I visualized a bumper sticker with the famous "I ( red heart) cholesterol)"Nothing would drive a statin pharma rep more crazy than to be behind a car at a stop light and see that slogan. A person could also create the slogan to appear at the bottom of all their emails and social media communications. Its short. Its sweet, and straight to the point. And it will cause people to inquire. A huge I love cholesterol campaign? Is this possible? Could this really happen? What would be required to make it reality? or is it a dumb idea?Feedback please,Bobby Alternate email: marooned@...Bobby- Your Caribbean Travel Plannerwww.pinkystravel.com International Destinations, Resorts, Vacation PackagesPhilippine Destination SpecialistTo: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Cc: davidturgeon Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 10:19 PMSubject: Re: Re: Wow! Great article. . Me too. The body needs cholesterol for hormone production, healthy arteries, even healthy cells. Interfering with a process central to one's health in the interest of an unproven theory that might produce minimal benefit seems the height of foolishness to me. Dave Turgeon I love cholesterol too - can't get mine high enough! Had the muscle biopsy earlier in the year and it proved the damage - lost 50% of my muscles with Statins and it hurts. Only on them 28 months - nearly died.PamelaSP > > > > Excellent article on statins and how they do > their damage. > > > > http://people.csail.mit.edu/seneff/statins_muscle_damage_heart_failure.html > > > > Bobby > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Bobby I agree with you I LOVE MY CHOLESTEROL!!! > >> > > >> > Excellent article on statins and how they do > >> their damage. > >> > > >> > http://people.csail.mit.edu/seneff/statins_muscle_damage_heart_failure.html > >> > > >> > Bobby > >> > > >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 OR: LEAVE MY CHOLESTEROL ALONE!!!!! > > >> > > > >> > Excellent article on statins and how they do > > >> their damage. > > >> > > > >> > http://people.csail.mit.edu/seneff/statins_muscle_damage_heart_failure.html > > >> > > > >> > Bobby > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Again, another excellent article on statins from the same author, ( Seneff,) as the last article I posted.I don't know who she is, but I like her writting!http://people.csail.mit.edu/seneff/why_statins_dont_really_work.html Alternate email: marooned@...Bobby- Your Caribbean Travel Plannerwww.pinkystravel.com International Destinations, Resorts, Vacation PackagesPhilippine Destination SpecialistTo: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 10:41 AMSubject: Re: Wow! Great article. . OR: LEAVE MY CHOLESTEROL ALONE!!!!! > > >> > > > >> > Excellent article on statins and how they do > > >> their damage. > > >> > > > >> > http://people.csail.mit.edu/seneff/statins_muscle_damage_heart_failure.html > > >> > > > >> > Bobby > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Here is her blog,…. http://stephanie-on-health.blogspot.com/2011_03_01_archive.htmlMike From: TakingLipitorAndHateIt [mailto:TakingLipitorAndHateIt ] On Behalf Of OlsonSent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 11:21 AMTo: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Subject: Re: Re: Wow! Great article. . Again, another excellent article on statins from the same author, ( Seneff,) as the last article I posted.I don't know who she is, but I like her writting! http://people.csail.mit.edu/seneff/why_statins_dont_really_work.html Alternate email: marooned@...Bobby- Your Caribbean Travel Plannerwww.pinkystravel.com International Destinations, Resorts, Vacation PackagesPhilippine Destination Specialist To: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 10:41 AMSubject: Re: Wow! Great article. . OR:LEAVE MY CHOLESTEROL ALONE!!!!!> > >> >> > >> > Excellent article on statins and how they do> > >> their damage.> > >> > > > >> > http://people.csail.mit.edu/seneff/statins_muscle_damage_heart_failure.html> > >> > > > >> > Bobby> > >> >> > >>> > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 I LOVE IT!!! Especially the bumper sticker! Maybe that would make some members of the medical community think about the demonization of substance the body absolutely needs to thrive. Dave Turgeon. I have seroiusly considered starting a " I love cholesterol" campaign.A Statin Victim I met thru medications. com used those words "I love cholesterol". Instantly I visualized a bumper sticker with the famous "I ( red heart) cholesterol)"Nothing would drive a statin pharma rep more crazy than to be behind a car at a stop light and see that slogan. A person could also create the slogan to appear at the bottom of all their emails and social media communications. Its short. Its sweet, and straight to the point. And it will cause people to inquire. A huge I love cholesterol campaign? Is this possible? Could this really happen? What would be required to make it reality? or is it a dumb idea?Feedback please,Bobby Alternate email: marooned@...Bobby- Your Caribbean Travel Plannerwww.pinkystravel.com International Destinations, Resorts, Vacation PackagesPhilippine Destination SpecialistTo: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Cc: davidturgeon Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 10:19 PMSubject: Re: Re: Wow! Great article. . Me too. The body needs cholesterol for hormone production, healthy arteries, even healthy cells. Interfering with a process central to one's health in the interest of an unproven theory that might produce minimal benefit seems the height of foolishness to me. Dave Turgeon I love cholesterol too - can't get mine high enough! Had the muscle biopsy earlier in the year and it proved the damage - lost 50% of my muscles with Statins and it hurts. Only on them 28 months - nearly died.PamelaSP > > > > Excellent article on statins and how they do > their damage. > > > > http://people.csail.mit.edu/seneff/statins_muscle_damage_heart_failure.html > > > > Bobby > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Great article - thanks for providing the link! From: TakingLipitorAndHateIt [mailto:TakingLipitorAndHateIt ] On Behalf Of Olson Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 2:21 PM To: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Subject: Re: Re: Wow! Great article. . Again, another excellent article on statins from the same author, ( Seneff,) as the last article I posted. I don't know who she is, but I like her writting! http://people.csail.mit.edu/seneff/why_statins_dont_really_work.html Alternate email: marooned@... Bobby- Your Caribbean Travel Planner www.pinkystravel.com International Destinations, Resorts, Vacation Packages Philippine Destination Specialist From: bty227736 To: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 10:41 AM Subject: Re: Wow! Great article. . OR: LEAVE MY CHOLESTEROL ALONE!!!!! > > >> > > > >> > Excellent article on statins and how they do > > >> their damage. > > >> > > > >> > http://people.csail.mit.edu/seneff/statins_muscle_damage_heart_failure.html > > >> > > > >> > Bobby > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 I love Seneff's articles! > > > >> > > > > >> > Excellent article on statins and how they do > > > >> their damage. > > > >> > > > > >> > http://people.csail.mit.edu/seneff/statins_muscle_damage_heart_failure.html > > > >> > > > > >> > Bobby > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Great articles--chasing down the references is enough to really make you wonder how so many people could be so wrongheaded and truly unscientific. RE: Re: Wow! Great article. . http://people.csail.mit.edu/seneff/why_statins_dont_really_work.html  > > Me too. The body needs cholesterol for hormone production, healthy arteries, even healthy cells. Interfering with a process central to one's health in the interest of an unproven theory that might produce minimal benefit seems the height of foolishness to me. > > > > >I love cholesterol too - can't get mine high enough! Had the muscle biopsy earlier in the year and it proved the damage - lost 50% of my muscles with Statins and it hurts. Only on them 28 months - nearly died.PamelaSP > > > > > >> > > >> What a brilliant article - if only we could get the health professionals to read and understand. When she talks about muscle cannibalisation - that's what's happened to me.It wasn't until I had a muscle biopsy and the surgeon couldn't find any - and the test came back that there was a problem - similar to Muscular Dystrophy - but not quite! well the Statin damaged are very familiar with this diagnosis!!!I know this has affected my large/small intestines and that I haven't got cancer -just hope that I can convince my bowel specialist. Anyone else out there got severe internal muscle damage like me? Love to hear from you. PamelaSP > > >> > > > >> > http://people.csail.mit.edu/seneff/statins_muscle_damage_heart_failure.html > > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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