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We did not stagger vaccines with our first child and

he is autistic, however our second child is not

autistic and we have followed a staggered approach

since he was born. There are other vaccines we are

waiting to give until he is older. Living in two

states, Indiana and now Texas, we have not had a

problem with getting the vials in single doses.

Especially MMR, which is available in single vials.

If there are any pediatric nurses out there they can

be of more help, hopefully they will respond. As a

parent I called every pediatrician until I found one

that would accept our protocol. Because they are now

used to getting requests like this, you should not

have too much difficulty. When they reassured me that

there is no longer any thimersol, I explained that is

fine but the autoimmune response to vaccines is a

possible trigger. I received a blank stare as I

discussed all possible theories (mine in particular of

a genetic predisposition coupled with an environmental

trigger or virus), and they did not disagree with me.

Not sure where you are located, but if you need our

pediatrician in Austin let me know.

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Hi ,

I think I saw in our DAN doctor's office last week (Dr. Rao in Dallas) that

he could arrange and provide for the MMR in separate shots through your

doctor or he could do it in his office. His number is (Mon.

Thurs.) and (Tues. Wed, Fri.). Of course I highly recommend

not getting the vaccines, it makes me shiver to even think about it.

www.generationrescue might be a good source of info for your friend. If

she's really set on getting it, I would definitely wait a few more years.

What's the hurry really? There's one mom on one of my lists that talks

about how her child regressed after their kindergarten boosters.

You are a good friend to help her.

Sincerely,

Beth

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Where are you in VA? I am on the Peninsula, but am

trying to keep track of where IMPs are opening up in

the state (we need more and more after all). I would be happy to talk to you

about what I do about vaccines here, but much depends on how busy your peds practice is. If you want to talk further, contact me

off list or call me at . Thanks!

vaccinations

I opened my IMP (in Virginia) a few months ago and haven't decided how

to handle the vaccination issue. How do others handle it? Our

local health dept administers vaccines required for school free of

charge, and I am thinking of sending adults to local pharmacies for

flu, but what about HPV vaccine for those young women out of school

who want to catch up? And DTaP for adults? And pneumovax, etc.?

I don't plan on having enough volume to stock a lot of vaccines.

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I have

only been doing Td and Pneumovax since 2004 and am on

the edge of stopping even those. Allowables are less than the purchase price, and even if

you add the admin fee to the vaccine payment it is still less than the cost of

the vaccine, AND, to add insult to injury, if I bill a 99___on the same day as the

injection, my three biggest payers besides MCR refuse to pay the cost of the

office visit on the same day as the injection.

This situation pretty much forces me to

let pharmacies take over doing all vaccinations for my patients. Now with minute clinics in every

pharmacy, and insurance staff “phone nurses/coaches” I believe that

primary care doctors are on the way out.

L. Skaggs, MD

Lexington, KY

www.fayettefamilymed.com

vaccinations

I opened my IMP (in Virginia) a few months ago and haven't decided how

to handle the vaccination issue. How do others handle it? Our

local health dept administers vaccines required for school free of

charge, and I am thinking of sending adults to local pharmacies for

flu, but what about HPV vaccine for those young women out of school

who want to catch up? And DTaP for adults? And pneumovax, etc.?

I don't plan on having enough volume to stock a lot of vaccines.

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We eased into vaccinations as our finances

allowed. It is a huge cost to startup offering everything, so I would target

what you think you will see most commonly first. For us, it was the first year

shots for well child checks. We’ve gotten burned on giving out all of

our flu shots from overshipments. We just recently added HPV, then zoster,

then meningococcal. As the practice has grown, it has been easier and easier

to give out all the shots we have ordered before they expire. Keep that in

mind if you are starting from scratch. Some suppliers ( I think it is Merck))

will credit expired vaccines towards the purchase of new ones.

Greg

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Brand

Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007

7:48 AM

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vaccinations

I opened my IMP (in Virginia) a few months ago and haven't

decided how

to handle the vaccination issue. How do others handle it? Our

local health dept administers vaccines required for school free of

charge, and I am thinking of sending adults to local pharmacies for

flu, but what about HPV vaccine for those young women out of school

who want to catch up? And DTaP for adults? And pneumovax, etc.?

I don't plan on having enough volume to stock a lot of vaccines.

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I recently ordered some from vaccine

shoppe (on line) which is run (I think) by Sanofi. They have a return

policy on all expired vaccines (not from other manufacturers). For me

this is a great relief. I hate the idea of sending patients all over town

for vaccines and my very demanding patient population really would not tolerate

that type of “service”. Anyhow, knowing that I am not out the

$ if the vaccines expire is a HUGE relief (even if I will do no better than

break-even on them…)

Ramona

(they also have some small discount for

ordering this summer and for on-line purchase as well as for paying ON TIME)

Ramona G. Seidel, M.D.

www.baycrossingfamilymedicine.com

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From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Greg

Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007

3:17 PM

To:

Subject: RE:

vaccinations

,

We eased into vaccinations as our finances allowed. It is a

huge cost to startup offering everything, so I would target what you think you

will see most commonly first. For us, it was the first year shots for

well child checks. We’ve gotten burned on giving out all of our flu

shots from overshipments. We just recently added HPV, then zoster, then

meningococcal. As the practice has grown, it has been easier and easier

to give out all the shots we have ordered before they expire. Keep that

in mind if you are starting from scratch. Some suppliers ( I think it is

Merck)) will credit expired vaccines towards the purchase of new ones.

Greg

From:

[mailto: ]

On Behalf Of Brand

Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007

7:48 AM

To:

Subject:

vaccinations

I opened

my IMP (in Virginia)

a few months ago and haven't decided how

to handle the vaccination issue. How do others handle it? Our

local health dept administers vaccines required for school free of

charge, and I am thinking of sending adults to local pharmacies for

flu, but what about HPV vaccine for those young women out of school

who want to catch up? And DTaP for adults? And pneumovax, etc.?

I don't plan on having enough volume to stock a lot of vaccines.

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