Guest guest Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 : You're right on...statins are one of the worse medications that Doctors can prescribe Everything I've read recently indicates that bacteria is the real culprit as it causes inflammation Lee... A friend just called who remembered the hell I went through after taking Vytorin. It basically ruined my physical life. It is has been a constant effort at Rehabilitation centers, nutrition research, being pro-active to get myself well. I know people are getting tired of me trying to get the word out. When on FaceBook I always remind people to do their research before putting a statin in their body. I LIKEN IT TO TAKING CYANIDE! It was that destructive to my body! had contacted me some years after reading my post on Web MD, Nov of 2009 I think. I did not PDF THE POST UNFORTUNATELY! This is to let you know I am going to be 60 this year and have never recovered the full use of my upper arms (feels like rotator cuff). I have great difficulty doing anything that involves reaching up. Like getting something out of my closet, picking up babies, changing light bulbs, cleaning the house that involves reaching up above my core or reaching down below my core. I cooked my first full recipe yesterday. It has taken years to become functional. I basically gave up and isolated myself rather than have to explain over and over what did this to me. Statins are like a GATEWAY to your future diseases because it unlocks the key to future illnesses you would not get for 15-20 years in the future. I suddenly got ARTHRITIS IN MY HANDS. BIG CYSTS ON MY PINKY FINGERS THAT REQUIRED SURGERIES. BOTH PINKY FINGERS ARE LAYING DOWN ARTHRITIS deposits very quickly. I collected beads for 25 years thinking i would be doing creative projects after retiring! HA! The joke was on me! So if you still have a copy of that Web MD post which they will no longer allow us access to; please copy it and post it to the site. I have a copy, but it is not digital. You had contacted me soon after my post to possibly do an article on my progression of the damage. I lived in Vail, CO, was a downhill skier, climbed mountains, rode bicycles, could do jumping jacks, could cook and clean the house easily. Upon ingestion of the drug all of this was taken from me. I contacted a Vytorin lawyer and they were only taking DEATH AND LIVER FAILURE PATIENTS. Because I didn't take it until I died I am really screwed! The doctors never did any pre-tests that could be used to compare before and after results of what the drug did to me. And am astonished at the damage this drug did to me. I am working with a nurse who is helping me lengthen the muscles to improve circulation to the damaged sites. I worked with her on Thursday and we did a class today for 1 1/2 hours. Much to my dismay, this pain and damage is irreversible in me. But I keep trying anything to ease the symptoms. And I am on a CRUSADE TO TELL OTHERS. I do ZUMBA now, but cannot jump like the other participants. My feet were totally screwed up by VYTORIN. ANKLES WEAKENED, WRISTS, ELBOWS, NECK, HIPS compromised. It interrupts my sleep. Took away my earning power. Took away my body's ability to breathe properly. You name it; it was affected by the STATINS. I am still angry as heck this was forced upon me. My doctor still calls and tries to get me on the drugs. I refuse. I will not take a chance on losing what has taken about 5 years to regain for the quality of my life. And they are still trying to force this on me. And remember, Dr. Bearnice Golumb's video on statins. She was at UCLA. THEY WANT TO PUT STATINS IN THE WATER SYSTEM IN CALIFORNIA so everyone can still eat Mc's!!!! Just want to let you know I am still in the game. Please feel free to contact me. McClure ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 Thanks for posting. I would encourage you to post on the webmd cholesterol management community support group with an update of your story. I am very active there and have been battling the cholesterol drug con for years. Bobby Alternate email: marooned@...Bobby- Your Caribbean Travel Plannerwww.pinkystravel.com International Destinations, Resorts, Vacation PackagesPhilippine Destination Specialist From: tulsatimeflies To: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 5:46 PM Subject: Statins: Muscle pain, damage and weakness, Hartke and all in the group. A friend just called who remembered the hell I went through after taking Vytorin. It basically ruined my physical life. It is has been a constant effort at Rehabilitation centers, nutrition research, being pro-active to get myself well. I know people are getting tired of me trying to get the word out. When on FaceBook I always remind people to do their research before putting a statin in their body. I LIKEN IT TO TAKING CYANIDE! It was that destructive to my body! had contacted me some years after reading my post on Web MD, Nov of 2009 I think. I did not PDF THE POST UNFORTUNATELY! This is to let you know I am going to be 60 this year and have never recovered the full use of my upper arms (feels like rotator cuff). I have great difficulty doing anything that involves reaching up. Like getting something out of my closet, picking up babies, changing light bulbs, cleaning the house that involves reaching up above my core or reaching down below my core. I cooked my first full recipe yesterday. It has taken years to become functional. I basically gave up and isolated myself rather than have to explain over and over what did this to me. Statins are like a GATEWAY to your future diseases because it unlocks the key to future illnesses you would not get for 15-20 years in the future. I suddenly got ARTHRITIS IN MY HANDS. BIG CYSTS ON MY PINKY FINGERS THAT REQUIRED SURGERIES. BOTH PINKY FINGERS ARE LAYING DOWN ARTHRITIS deposits very quickly. I collected beads for 25 years thinking i would be doing creative projects after retiring! HA! The joke was on me! So if you still have a copy of that Web MD post which they will no longer allow us access to; please copy it and post it to the site. I have a copy, but it is not digital. You had contacted me soon after my post to possibly do an article on my progression of the damage. I lived in Vail, CO, was a downhill skier, climbed mountains, rode bicycles, could do jumping jacks, could cook and clean the house easily. Upon ingestion of the drug all of this was taken from me. I contacted a Vytorin lawyer and they were only taking DEATH AND LIVER FAILURE PATIENTS. Because I didn't take it until I died I am really screwed! The doctors never did any pre-tests that could be used to compare before and after results of what the drug did to me. And am astonished at the damage this drug did to me. I am working with a nurse who is helping me lengthen the muscles to improve circulation to the damaged sites. I worked with her on Thursday and we did a class today for 1 1/2 hours. Much to my dismay, this pain and damage is irreversible in me. But I keep trying anything to ease the symptoms. And I am on a CRUSADE TO TELL OTHERS. I do ZUMBA now, but cannot jump like the other participants. My feet were totally screwed up by VYTORIN. ANKLES WEAKENED, WRISTS, ELBOWS, NECK, HIPS compromised. It interrupts my sleep. Took away my earning power. Took away my body's ability to breathe properly. You name it; it was affected by the STATINS. I am still angry as heck this was forced upon me. My doctor still calls and tries to get me on the drugs. I refuse. I will not take a chance on losing what has taken about 5 years to regain for the quality of my life. And they are still trying to force this on me. And remember, Dr. Bearnice Golumb's video on statins. She was at UCLA. THEY WANT TO PUT STATINS IN THE WATER SYSTEM IN CALIFORNIA so everyone can still eat Mc's!!!! Just want to let you know I am still in the game. Please feel free to contact me. McClure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 If all of America would simply refuse to pay for any office visit where a physician attempts to prescribe a statin, maybe the message would become clear to doctors. Prescribe a statin and you forfeit the office visit fee. Alternate email: marooned@...Bobby- Your Caribbean Travel Plannerwww.pinkystravel.com International Destinations, Resorts, Vacation PackagesPhilippine Destination Specialist To: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Cc: tulsatimeflies Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 11:26 PM Subject: Re: Statins: Muscle pain, damage and weakness, Hartke and all in the group. : You're right on...statins are one of the worse medications that Doctors can prescribe Everything I've read recently indicates that bacteria is the real culprit as it causes inflammation Lee... A friend just called who remembered the hell I went through after taking Vytorin. It basically ruined my physical life. It is has been a constant effort at Rehabilitation centers, nutrition research, being pro-active to get myself well. I know people are getting tired of me trying to get the word out. When on FaceBook I always remind people to do their research before putting a statin in their body. I LIKEN IT TO TAKING CYANIDE! It was that destructive to my body! had contacted me some years after reading my post on Web MD, Nov of 2009 I think. I did not PDF THE POST UNFORTUNATELY! This is to let you know I am going to be 60 this year and have never recovered the full use of my upper arms (feels like rotator cuff). I have great difficulty doing anything that involves reaching up. Like getting something out of my closet, picking up babies, changing light bulbs, cleaning the house that involves reaching up above my core or reaching down below my core. I cooked my first full recipe yesterday. It has taken years to become functional. I basically gave up and isolated myself rather than have to explain over and over what did this to me. Statins are like a GATEWAY to your future diseases because it unlocks the key to future illnesses you would not get for 15-20 years in the future. I suddenly got ARTHRITIS IN MY HANDS. BIG CYSTS ON MY PINKY FINGERS THAT REQUIRED SURGERIES. BOTH PINKY FINGERS ARE LAYING DOWN ARTHRITIS deposits very quickly. I collected beads for 25 years thinking i would be doing creative projects after retiring! HA! The joke was on me! So if you still have a copy of that Web MD post which they will no longer allow us access to; please copy it and post it to the site. I have a copy, but it is not digital. You had contacted me soon after my post to possibly do an article on my progression of the damage. I lived in Vail, CO, was a downhill skier, climbed mountains, rode bicycles, could do jumping jacks, could cook and clean the house easily. Upon ingestion of the drug all of this was taken from me. I contacted a Vytorin lawyer and they were only taking DEATH AND LIVER FAILURE PATIENTS. Because I didn't take it until I died I am really screwed! The doctors never did any pre-tests that could be used to compare before and after results of what the drug did to me. And am astonished at the damage this drug did to me. I am working with a nurse who is helping me lengthen the muscles to improve circulation to the damaged sites. I worked with her on Thursday and we did a class today for 1 1/2 hours. Much to my dismay, this pain and damage is irreversible in me. But I keep trying anything to ease the symptoms. And I am on a CRUSADE TO TELL OTHERS. I do ZUMBA now, but cannot jump like the other participants. My feet were totally screwed up by VYTORIN. ANKLES WEAKENED, WRISTS, ELBOWS, NECK, HIPS compromised. It interrupts my sleep. Took away my earning power. Took away my body's ability to breathe properly. You name it; it was affected by the STATINS. I am still angry as heck this was forced upon me. My doctor still calls and tries to get me on the drugs. I refuse. I will not take a chance on losing what has taken about 5 years to regain for the quality of my life. And they are still trying to force this on me. And remember, Dr. Bearnice Golumb's video on statins. She was at UCLA. THEY WANT TO PUT STATINS IN THE WATER SYSTEM IN CALIFORNIA so everyone can still eat Mc's!!!! Just want to let you know I am still in the game. Please feel free to contact me. McClure ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 Hi , you wrote: " ANKLES WEAKENED, WRISTS, ELBOWS, NECK, HIPS compromised. It interrupts my sleep. Took away my earning power. Took away my body's ability to breathe properly. "Thank you for reminding me of problems I've had when i took statins. Extreme shortness of breath and muscle loss are two things that happened to me. I am not sure if the interrupted sleep is from statins, too, but I quit taking them recently and am taking other things to address the clogged arteries that put me into open heart surgery maybe 12 years ago. I am going to tell my doctor what I have chosen to do after studying the literature out there about statins and other treatments for my health issues - like low thyroid, also.Suzanne in Ohio>> A friend just called who remembered the hell I went through after taking Vytorin. It basically ruined my physical life. It is has been a constant effort at Rehabilitation centers, nutrition research, being pro-active to get myself well. I know people are getting tired of me trying to get the word out. When on FaceBook I always remind people to do their research before putting a statin in their body. I LIKEN IT TO TAKING CYANIDE! It was that destructive to my body! had contacted me some years after reading my post on Web MD, Nov of 2009 I think. I did not PDF THE POST UNFORTUNATELY! This is to let you know I am going to be 60 this year and have never recovered the full use of my upper arms (feels like rotator cuff). I have great difficulty doing anything that involves reaching up. Like getting something out of my closet, picking up babies, changing light bulbs, cleaning the house that involves reaching up above my core or reaching down below my core. I cooked my first full recipe yesterday. It has taken years to become functional. I basically gave up and isolated myself rather than have to explain over and over what did this to me. Statins are like a GATEWAY to your future diseases because it unlocks the key to future illnesses you would not get for 15-20 years in the future. I suddenly got ARTHRITIS IN MY HANDS. BIG CYSTS ON MY PINKY FINGERS THAT REQUIRED SURGERIES. BOTH PINKY FINGERS ARE LAYING DOWN ARTHRITIS deposits very quickly. I collected beads for 25 years thinking i would be doing creative projects after retiring! HA! The joke was on me! > > So if you still have a copy of that Web MD post which they will no longer allow us access to; please copy it and post it to the site. I have a copy, but it is not digital. You had contacted me soon after my post to possibly do an article on my progression of the damage. I lived in Vail, CO, was a downhill skier, climbed mountains, rode bicycles, could do jumping jacks, could cook and clean the house easily. Upon ingestion of the drug all of this was taken from me. I contacted a Vytorin lawyer and they were only taking DEATH AND LIVER FAILURE PATIENTS. Because I didn't take it until I died I am really screwed! The doctors never did any pre-tests that could be used to compare before and after results of what the drug did to me. And am astonished at the damage this drug did to me. > > I am working with a nurse who is helping me lengthen the muscles to improve circulation to the damaged sites. I worked with her on Thursday and we did a class today for 1 1/2 hours. Much to my dismay, this pain and damage is irreversible in me. But I keep trying anything to ease the symptoms. And I am on a CRUSADE TO TELL OTHERS. > > I do ZUMBA now, but cannot jump like the other participants. My feet were totally screwed up by VYTORIN. ANKLES WEAKENED, WRISTS, ELBOWS, NECK, HIPS compromised. It interrupts my sleep. Took away my earning power. Took away my body's ability to breathe properly. You name it; it was affected by the STATINS. I am still angry as heck this was forced upon me. My doctor still calls and tries to get me on the drugs. I refuse. I will not take a chance on losing what has taken about 5 years to regain for the quality of my life. And they are still trying to force this on me.> > And remember, Dr. Bearnice Golumb's video on statins. She was at UCLA. THEY WANT TO PUT STATINS IN THE WATER SYSTEM IN CALIFORNIA so everyone can still eat Mc's!!!!> > Just want to let you know I am still in the game. Please feel free to contact me. McClure> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Suzie! Hi! I have a younger sister named Suzanne so I am already endeared to you. It feels so good to be validated. Not everyone gets quadruple whammed from statins. Vytorin just knocked me for a loop. When it affected my memory was the worst. I miss my brain the most. I would rather take the sudden, hopefully final heart attack than live with the repercussions of taking Vytorin. My twins are raised, my job as a mom is done. My husband is diabetic & had pretty low cholesterol and they put him on statins. I begged him to not take them. He balked. Until he was getting ready for foot surgery, & he had to go off them; then he could feel what the drug did to him. Why some people suffer more than others is beyond me & the doctors. I feel like we were just one big experiment. It makes me so sad. I will be sad forever until someone, like a lawyer takes a statin and is well enough to take the drug companies to court. Not for $$$ so much as prompting them to acknowledge the damage, have Dr.s do the proper b4 testing so we have a benchmark to analyze the changes & damage, tell people how much CoQ10 they have to take, which my doctor never mentioned, prepare people for what can happen to them. Not just in a casual TV commercial. Some drugs cause people's jaws to come unhinged! Just a casual mention on a TV ad. It is not a casual problem to the person who has to deal with the damage the rest of their life. If I could un-ring a bell I would. How many are suffering in silence, never to be heard? But at least some of my friends now know to call me when they feel the horrible results of statin therapy. So, Suzanne, keep me posted! I pray you a miracle! I need one, too. McClure Hi , you wrote: " ANKLES WEAKENED, WRISTS, ELBOWS, NECK, HIPS compromised. It interrupts my sleep. Took away my earning power. Took away my body's ability to breathe properly. "Thank you for reminding me of problems I've had when i took statins. Extreme shortness of breath and muscle loss are two things that happened to me. I am not sure if the interrupted sleep is from statins, too, but I quit taking them recently and am taking other things to address the clogged arteries that put me into open heart surgery maybe 12 years ago. I am going to tell my doctor what I have chosen to do after studying the literature out there about statins and other treatments for my health issues - like low thyroid, also.Suzanne in Ohio>> A friend just called who remembered the hell I went through after taking Vytorin. It basically ruined my physical life. It is has been a constant effort at Rehabilitation centers, nutrition research, being pro-active to get myself well. I know people are getting tired of me trying to get the word out. When on FaceBook I always remind people to do their research before putting a statin in their body. I LIKEN IT TO TAKING CYANIDE! It was that destructive to my body! had contacted me some years after reading my post on Web MD, Nov of 2009 I think. I did not PDF THE POST UNFORTUNATELY! This is to let you know I am going to be 60 this year and have never recovered the full use of my upper arms (feels like rotator cuff). I have great difficulty doing anything that involves reaching up. Like getting something out of my closet, picking up babies, changing light bulbs, cleaning the house that involves reaching up above my core or reaching down below my core. I cooked my first full recipe yesterday. It has taken years to become functional. I basically gave up and isolated myself rather than have to explain over and over what did this to me. Statins are like a GATEWAY to your future diseases because it unlocks the key to future illnesses you would not get for 15-20 years in the future. I suddenly got ARTHRITIS IN MY HANDS. BIG CYSTS ON MY PINKY FINGERS THAT REQUIRED SURGERIES. BOTH PINKY FINGERS ARE LAYING DOWN ARTHRITIS deposits very quickly. I collected beads for 25 years thinking i would be doing creative projects after retiring! HA! The joke was on me! > > So if you still have a copy of that Web MD post which they will no longer allow us access to; please copy it and post it to the site. I have a copy, but it is not digital. You had contacted me soon after my post to possibly do an article on my progression of the damage. I lived in Vail, CO, was a downhill skier, climbed mountains, rode bicycles, could do jumping jacks, could cook and clean the house easily. Upon ingestion of the drug all of this was taken from me. I contacted a Vytorin lawyer and they were only taking DEATH AND LIVER FAILURE PATIENTS. Because I didn't take it until I died I am really screwed! The doctors never did any pre-tests that could be used to compare before and after results of what the drug did to me. And am astonished at the damage this drug did to me. > > I am working with a nurse who is helping me lengthen the muscles to improve circulation to the damaged sites. I worked with her on Thursday and we did a class today for 1 1/2 hours. Much to my dismay, this pain and damage is irreversible in me. But I keep trying anything to ease the symptoms. And I am on a CRUSADE TO TELL OTHERS. > > I do ZUMBA now, but cannot jump like the other participants. My feet were totally screwed up by VYTORIN. ANKLES WEAKENED, WRISTS, ELBOWS, NECK, HIPS compromised. It interrupts my sleep. Took away my earning power. Took away my body's ability to breathe properly. You name it; it was affected by the STATINS. I am still angry as heck this was forced upon me. My doctor still calls and tries to get me on the drugs. I refuse. I will not take a chance on losing what has taken about 5 years to regain for the quality of my life. And they are still trying to force this on me.> > And remember, Dr. Bearnice Golumb's video on statins. She was at UCLA. THEY WANT TO PUT STATINS IN THE WATER SYSTEM IN CALIFORNIA so everyone can still eat Mc's!!!!> > Just want to let you know I am still in the game. Please feel free to contact me. McClure> = Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Suzanne & How I resonate with both of you.I was on Statins for 28 months, and I nearly died.I had severe memory loss and lack of cognitive skills- this damage I have never recovered from. Muscle damage, bowel incontinence, tendonitis, tinnitus , neuropathy, sciatica, cysts on my brain ( calcium deposits ) otitis, immune system shot to bits, + much more. The pushers and drug makers should be sent to jail with the key thrown away for what they have done to me. Pamela SP Suffolk, England > > > > > > A friend just called who remembered the hell I went through after taking Vytorin. It basically ruined my physical life. It is has been a constant effort at Rehabilitation centers, nutrition research, being pro-active to get myself well. I know people are getting tired of me trying to get the word out. When on FaceBook I always remind people to do their research before putting a statin in their body. I LIKEN IT TO TAKING CYANIDE! It was that destructive to my body! had contacted me some years after reading my post on Web MD, Nov of 2009 I think. I did not PDF THE POST UNFORTUNATELY! This is to let you know I am going to be 60 this year and have never recovered the full use of my upper arms (feels like rotator cuff). I have great difficulty doing anything that involves reaching up. Like getting something out of my closet, picking up babies, changing light bulbs, cleaning the house that involves reaching up above my core or reaching down below my core. I cooked my first full recipe yesterday. It has taken years to become functional. I basically gave up and isolated myself rather than have to explain over and over what did this to me. Statins are like a GATEWAY to your future diseases because it unlocks the key to future illnesses you would not get for 15-20 years in the future. I suddenly got ARTHRITIS IN MY HANDS. BIG CYSTS ON MY PINKY FINGERS THAT REQUIRED SURGERIES. BOTH PINKY FINGERS ARE LAYING DOWN ARTHRITIS deposits very quickly. I collected beads for 25 years thinking i would be doing creative projects after retiring! HA! The joke was on me! > > > > > > So if you still have a copy of that Web MD post which they will no longer allow us access to; please copy it and post it to the site. I have a copy, but it is not digital. You had contacted me soon after my post to possibly do an article on my progression of the damage. I lived in Vail, CO, was a downhill skier, climbed mountains, rode bicycles, could do jumping jacks, could cook and clean the house easily. Upon ingestion of the drug all of this was taken from me. I contacted a Vytorin lawyer and they were only taking DEATH AND LIVER FAILURE PATIENTS. Because I didn't take it until I died I am really screwed! The doctors never did any pre-tests that could be used to compare before and after results of what the drug did to me. And am astonished at the damage this drug did to me. > > > > > > I am working with a nurse who is helping me lengthen the muscles to improve circulation to the damaged sites. I worked with her on Thursday and we did a class today for 1 1/2 hours. Much to my dismay, this pain and damage is irreversible in me. But I keep trying anything to ease the symptoms. And I am on a CRUSADE TO TELL OTHERS. > > > > > > I do ZUMBA now, but cannot jump like the other participants. My feet were totally screwed up by VYTORIN. ANKLES WEAKENED, WRISTS, ELBOWS, NECK, HIPS compromised. It interrupts my sleep. Took away my earning power. Took away my body's ability to breathe properly. You name it; it was affected by the STATINS. I am still angry as heck this was forced upon me. My doctor still calls and tries to get me on the drugs. I refuse. I will not take a chance on losing what has taken about 5 years to regain for the quality of my life. And they are still trying to force this on me. > > > > > > And remember, Dr. Bearnice Golumb's video on statins. She was at UCLA. THEY WANT TO PUT STATINS IN THE WATER SYSTEM IN CALIFORNIA so everyone can still eat Mc's!!!! > > > > > > Just want to let you know I am still in the game. Please feel free to contact me. McClure > > > > > > > > > > > TODAY(Beta) • Powered by Yahoo! > > Bieber gets rare sportscar for birthday > > The star's manager gives him a " flashy " vehicle that'll " make you stand out " on Ellen's show. > > Privacy Policy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 McClure said: "I feel like we were just one big experiment"I have sometimes wondered that too . Then I shrug it off as nonsense. Then I can't help but start wondering again if we were some big experiment for bio-weapons. Looking back at the big picture of statins, none of it ever made sense. There never was any evidence blocking the mevalonate pathway prevented or reversed heart disease. But science knew very well the value of cholesterol in supporting life. Blocking its production would certainly result in major nerve, muscle, and cognitive problems. Science knew the value of cholesterol back in the 60's. So why did they block this important metabolic pathway? What was their ultimate purpose? Was it purely corporate greed playing on the public's acceptance of the lipid hypothesis? Or was it something beyond that?Bobby Alternate email: marooned@...Bobby- Your Caribbean Travel Plannerwww.pinkystravel.com International Destinations, Resorts, Vacation PackagesPhilippine Destination Specialist To: "TakingLipitorAndHateIt " <TakingLipitorAndHateIt > Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2012 4:35 PM Subject: Re: Re: Statins: Muscle pain, damage and weakness, Hartke and all in the group. Suzie! Hi! I have a younger sister named Suzanne so I am already endeared to you. It feels so good to be validated. Not everyone gets quadruple whammed from statins. Vytorin just knocked me for a loop. When it affected my memory was the worst. I miss my brain the most. I would rather take the sudden, hopefully final heart attack than live with the repercussions of taking Vytorin. My twins are raised, my job as a mom is done. My husband is diabetic & had pretty low cholesterol and they put him on statins. I begged him to not take them. He balked. Until he was getting ready for foot surgery, & he had to go off them; then he could feel what the drug did to him. Why some people suffer more than others is beyond me & the doctors. I feel like we were just one big experiment. It makes me so sad. I will be sad forever until someone, like a lawyer takes a statin and is well enough to take the drug companies to court. Not for $$$ so much as prompting them to acknowledge the damage, have Dr.s do the proper b4 testing so we have a benchmark to analyze the changes & damage, tell people how much CoQ10 they have to take, which my doctor never mentioned, prepare people for what can happen to them. Not just in a casual TV commercial. Some drugs cause people's jaws to come unhinged! Just a casual mention on a TV ad. It is not a casual problem to the person who has to deal with the damage the rest of their life. If I could un-ring a bell I would. How many are suffering in silence, never to be heard? But at least some of my friends now know to call me when they feel the horrible results of statin therapy. So, Suzanne, keep me posted! I pray you a miracle! I need one, too. McClure Hi , you wrote: " ANKLES WEAKENED, WRISTS, ELBOWS, NECK, HIPS compromised. It interrupts my sleep. Took away my earning power. Took away my body's ability to breathe properly. "Thank you for reminding me of problems I've had when i took statins. Extreme shortness of breath and muscle loss are two things that happened to me. I am not sure if the interrupted sleep is from statins, too, but I quit taking them recently and am taking other things to address the clogged arteries that put me into open heart surgery maybe 12 years ago. I am going to tell my doctor what I have chosen to do after studying the literature out there about statins and other treatments for my health issues - like low thyroid, also.Suzanne in Ohio>> A friend just called who remembered the hell I went through after taking Vytorin. It basically ruined my physical life. It is has been a constant effort at Rehabilitation centers, nutrition research, being pro-active to get myself well. I know people are getting tired of me trying to get the word out. When on FaceBook I always remind people to do their research before putting a statin in their body. I LIKEN IT TO TAKING CYANIDE! It was that destructive to my body! had contacted me some years after reading my post on Web MD, Nov of 2009 I think. I did not PDF THE POST UNFORTUNATELY! This is to let you know I am going to be 60 this year and have never recovered the full use of my upper arms (feels like rotator cuff). I have great difficulty doing anything that involves reaching up. Like getting something out of my closet, picking up babies, changing light bulbs, cleaning the house that involves reaching up above my core or reaching down below my core. I cooked my first full recipe yesterday. It has taken years to become functional. I basically gave up and isolated myself rather than have to explain over and over what did this to me. Statins are like a GATEWAY to your future diseases because it unlocks the key to future illnesses you would not get for 15-20 years in the future. I suddenly got ARTHRITIS IN MY HANDS. BIG CYSTS ON MY PINKY FINGERS THAT REQUIRED SURGERIES. BOTH PINKY FINGERS ARE LAYING DOWN ARTHRITIS deposits very quickly. I collected beads for 25 years thinking i would be doing creative projects after retiring! HA! The joke was on me! > > So if you still have a copy of that Web MD post which they will no longer allow us access to; please copy it and post it to the site. I have a copy, but it is not digital. You had contacted me soon after my post to possibly do an article on my progression of the damage. I lived in Vail, CO, was a downhill skier, climbed mountains, rode bicycles, could do jumping jacks, could cook and clean the house easily. Upon ingestion of the drug all of this was taken from me. I contacted a Vytorin lawyer and they were only taking DEATH AND LIVER FAILURE PATIENTS. Because I didn't take it until I died I am really screwed! The doctors never did any pre-tests that could be used to compare before and after results of what the drug did to me. And am astonished at the damage this drug did to me. > > I am working with a nurse who is helping me lengthen the muscles to improve circulation to the damaged sites. I worked with her on Thursday and we did a class today for 1 1/2 hours. Much to my dismay, this pain and damage is irreversible in me. But I keep trying anything to ease the symptoms. And I am on a CRUSADE TO TELL OTHERS. > > I do ZUMBA now, but cannot jump like the other participants. My feet were totally screwed up by VYTORIN. ANKLES WEAKENED, WRISTS, ELBOWS, NECK, HIPS compromised. It interrupts my sleep. Took away my earning power. Took away my body's ability to breathe properly. You name it; it was affected by the STATINS. I am still angry as heck this was forced upon me. My doctor still calls and tries to get me on the drugs. I refuse. I will not take a chance on losing what has taken about 5 years to regain for the quality of my life. And they are still trying to force this on me.> > And remember, Dr. Bearnice Golumb's video on statins. She was at UCLA. THEY WANT TO PUT STATINS IN THE WATER SYSTEM IN CALIFORNIA so everyone can still eat Mc's!!!!> > Just want to let you know I am still in the game. Please feel free to contact me. McClure> = Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 As the film says, "29 Billion Reasons"! We live in a world consumed by greed and led by sociopaths, I'm afraid.Dave. McClure said: "I feel like we were just one big experiment"I have sometimes wondered that too . Then I shrug it off as nonsense. Then I can't help but start wondering again if we were some big experiment for bio-weapons. Looking back at the big picture of statins, none of it ever made sense. There never was any evidence blocking the mevalonate pathway prevented or reversed heart disease. But science knew very well the value of cholesterol in supporting life. Blocking its production would certainly result in major nerve, muscle, and cognitive problems. Science knew the value of cholesterol back in the 60's. So why did they block this important metabolic pathway? What was their ultimate purpose? Was it purely corporate greed playing on the public's acceptance of the lipid hypothesis? Or was it something beyond that?Bobby Alternate email: marooned@...Bobby- Your Caribbean Travel Plannerwww.pinkystravel.com International Destinations, Resorts, Vacation PackagesPhilippine Destination Specialist To: "TakingLipitorAndHateIt " <TakingLipitorAndHateIt > Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2012 4:35 PM Subject: Re: Re: Statins: Muscle pain, damage and weakness, Hartke and all in the group. Suzie! Hi! I have a younger sister named Suzanne so I am already endeared to you. It feels so good to be validated. Not everyone gets quadruple whammed from statins. Vytorin just knocked me for a loop. When it affected my memory was the worst. I miss my brain the most. I would rather take the sudden, hopefully final heart attack than live with the repercussions of taking Vytorin. My twins are raised, my job as a mom is done. My husband is diabetic & had pretty low cholesterol and they put him on statins. I begged him to not take them. He balked. Until he was getting ready for foot surgery, & he had to go off them; then he could feel what the drug did to him. Why some people suffer more than others is beyond me & the doctors. I feel like we were just one big experiment. It makes me so sad. I will be sad forever until someone, like a lawyer takes a statin and is well enough to take the drug companies to court. Not for $$$ so much as prompting them to acknowledge the damage, have Dr.s do the proper b4 testing so we have a benchmark to analyze the changes & damage, tell people how much CoQ10 they have to take, which my doctor never mentioned, prepare people for what can happen to them. Not just in a casual TV commercial. Some drugs cause people's jaws to come unhinged! Just a casual mention on a TV ad. It is not a casual problem to the person who has to deal with the damage the rest of their life. If I could un-ring a bell I would. How many are suffering in silence, never to be heard? But at least some of my friends now know to call me when they feel the horrible results of statin therapy. So, Suzanne, keep me posted! I pray you a miracle! I need one, too. McClure Hi , you wrote: " ANKLES WEAKENED, WRISTS, ELBOWS, NECK, HIPS compromised. It interrupts my sleep. Took away my earning power. Took away my body's ability to breathe properly. "Thank you for reminding me of problems I've had when i took statins. Extreme shortness of breath and muscle loss are two things that happened to me. I am not sure if the interrupted sleep is from statins, too, but I quit taking them recently and am taking other things to address the clogged arteries that put me into open heart surgery maybe 12 years ago. I am going to tell my doctor what I have chosen to do after studying the literature out there about statins and other treatments for my health issues - like low thyroid, also.Suzanne in Ohio>> A friend just called who remembered the hell I went through after taking Vytorin. It basically ruined my physical life. It is has been a constant effort at Rehabilitation centers, nutrition research, being pro-active to get myself well. I know people are getting tired of me trying to get the word out. When on FaceBook I always remind people to do their research before putting a statin in their body. I LIKEN IT TO TAKING CYANIDE! It was that destructive to my body! had contacted me some years after reading my post on Web MD, Nov of 2009 I think. I did not PDF THE POST UNFORTUNATELY! This is to let you know I am going to be 60 this year and have never recovered the full use of my upper arms (feels like rotator cuff). I have great difficulty doing anything that involves reaching up. Like getting something out of my closet, picking up babies, changing light bulbs, cleaning the house that involves reaching up above my core or reaching down below my core. I cooked my first full recipe yesterday. It has taken years to become functional. I basically gave up and isolated myself rather than have to explain over and over what did this to me. Statins are like a GATEWAY to your future diseases because it unlocks the key to future illnesses you would not get for 15-20 years in the future. I suddenly got ARTHRITIS IN MY HANDS. BIG CYSTS ON MY PINKY FINGERS THAT REQUIRED SURGERIES. BOTH PINKY FINGERS ARE LAYING DOWN ARTHRITIS deposits very quickly. I collected beads for 25 years thinking i would be doing creative projects after retiring! HA! The joke was on me! > > So if you still have a copy of that Web MD post which they will no longer allow us access to; please copy it and post it to the site. I have a copy, but it is not digital. You had contacted me soon after my post to possibly do an article on my progression of the damage. I lived in Vail, CO, was a downhill skier, climbed mountains, rode bicycles, could do jumping jacks, could cook and clean the house easily. Upon ingestion of the drug all of this was taken from me. I contacted a Vytorin lawyer and they were only taking DEATH AND LIVER FAILURE PATIENTS. Because I didn't take it until I died I am really screwed! The doctors never did any pre-tests that could be used to compare before and after results of what the drug did to me. And am astonished at the damage this drug did to me. > > I am working with a nurse who is helping me lengthen the muscles to improve circulation to the damaged sites. I worked with her on Thursday and we did a class today for 1 1/2 hours. Much to my dismay, this pain and damage is irreversible in me. But I keep trying anything to ease the symptoms. And I am on a CRUSADE TO TELL OTHERS. > > I do ZUMBA now, but cannot jump like the other participants. My feet were totally screwed up by VYTORIN. ANKLES WEAKENED, WRISTS, ELBOWS, NECK, HIPS compromised. It interrupts my sleep. Took away my earning power. Took away my body's ability to breathe properly. You name it; it was affected by the STATINS. I am still angry as heck this was forced upon me. My doctor still calls and tries to get me on the drugs. I refuse. I will not take a chance on losing what has taken about 5 years to regain for the quality of my life. And they are still trying to force this on me.> > And remember, Dr. Bearnice Golumb's video on statins. She was at UCLA. THEY WANT TO PUT STATINS IN THE WATER SYSTEM IN CALIFORNIA so everyone can still eat Mc's!!!!> > Just want to let you know I am still in the game. Please feel free to contact me. McClure> = Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 Bobby,  early researches who found that statins affected cholesterol production knew that CoQ10 was also affected and that production was reduced. They included CoQ10 in the original formulation patents but were over ruled by the bean counters , so your greed guesstament is spot on, in my opinion.Mike S From: TakingLipitorAndHateIt [mailto:TakingLipitorAndHateIt ] On Behalf Of OlsonSent: Friday, March 02, 2012 6:34 AMTo: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Subject: Re: Re: Statins: Muscle pain, damage and weakness, Hartke and all in the group. McClure said: " I feel like we were just one big experiment " I have sometimes wondered that too . Then I shrug it off as nonsense. Then I can't help but start wondering again if we were some big experiment for bio-weapons. Looking back at the big picture of statins, none of it ever made sense. There never was any evidence blocking the mevalonate pathway prevented or reversed heart disease. But science knew very well the value of cholesterol in supporting life. Blocking its production would certainly result in major nerve, muscle, and cognitive problems. Science knew the value of cholesterol back in the 60's. So why did they block this important metabolic pathway? What was their ultimate purpose? Was it purely corporate greed playing on the public's acceptance of the lipid hypothesis? Or was it something beyond that? Bobby Alternate email: marooned@...Bobby- Your Caribbean Travel Plannerwww.pinkystravel.com International Destinations, Resorts, Vacation PackagesPhilippine Destination Specialist To: " TakingLipitorAndHateIt " <TakingLipitorAndHateIt > Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2012 4:35 PMSubject: Re: Re: Statins: Muscle pain, damage and weakness, Hartke and all in the group. Suzie! Hi! I have a younger sister named Suzanne so I am already endeared to you. It feels so good to be validated. Not everyone gets quadruple whammed from statins. Vytorin just knocked me for a loop. When it affected my memory was the worst. I miss my brain the most. I would rather take the sudden, hopefully final heart attack than live with the repercussions of taking Vytorin. My twins are raised, my job as a mom is done. My husband is diabetic & had pretty low cholesterol and they put him on statins. I begged him to not take them. He balked. Until he was getting ready for foot surgery, & he had to go off them; then he could feel what the drug did to him. Why some people suffer more than others is beyond me & the doctors. I feel like we were just one big experiment. It makes me so sad. I will be sad forever until someone, like a lawyer takes a statin and is well enough to take the drug companies to court. Not for $$$ so much as prompting them to acknowledge the damage, have Dr.s do the proper b4 testing so we have a benchmark to analyze the changes & damage, tell people how much CoQ10 they have to take, which my doctor never mentioned, prepare people for what can happen to them. Not just in a casual TV commercial. Some drugs cause people's jaws to come unhinged! Just a casual mention on a TV ad. It is not a casual problem to the person who has to deal with the damage the rest of their life. If I could un-ring a bell I would. How many are suffering in silence, never to be heard? But at least some of my friends now know to call me when they feel the horrible results of statin therapy. So, Suzanne, keep me posted! I pray you a miracle! I need one, too. McClure Hi , you wrote: " ANKLES WEAKENED, WRISTS, ELBOWS, NECK, HIPS compromised. It interrupts my sleep. Took away my earning power. Took away my body's ability to breathe properly. " Thank you for reminding me of problems I've had when i took statins. Extreme shortness of breath and muscle loss are two things that happened to me. I am not sure if the interrupted sleep is from statins, too, but I quit taking them recently and am taking other things to address the clogged arteries that put me into open heart surgery maybe 12 years ago. I am going to tell my doctor what I have chosen to do after studying the literature out there about statins and other treatments for my health issues - like low thyroid, also.Suzanne in Ohio>> A friend just called who remembered the hell I went through after taking Vytorin. It basically ruined my physical life. It is has been a constant effort at Rehabilitation centers, nutrition research, being pro-active to get myself well. I know people are getting tired of me trying to get the word out. When on FaceBook I always remind people to do their research before putting a statin in their body. I LIKEN IT TO TAKING CYANIDE! It was that destructive to my body! had contacted me some years after reading my post on Web MD, Nov of 2009 I think. I did not PDF THE POST UNFORTUNATELY! This is to let you know I am going to be 60 this year and have never recovered the full use of my upper arms (feels like rotator cuff). I have great difficulty doing anything that involves reaching up. Like getting something out of my closet, picking up babies, changing light bulbs, cleaning the house that involves reaching up above my core or reaching down below my core. I cooked my first full recipe yesterday. It has taken years to become functional. I basically gave up and isolated myself rather than have to explain over and over what did this to me. Statins are like a GATEWAY to your future diseases because it unlocks the key to future illnesses you would not get for 15-20 years in the future. I suddenly got ARTHRITIS IN MY HANDS. BIG CYSTS ON MY PINKY FINGERS THAT REQUIRED SURGERIES. BOTH PINKY FINGERS ARE LAYING DOWN ARTHRITIS deposits very quickly. I collected beads for 25 years thinking i would be doing creative projects after retiring! HA! The joke was on me! > > So if you still have a copy of that Web MD post which they will no longer allow us access to; please copy it and post it to the site. I have a copy, but it is not digital. You had contacted me soon after my post to possibly do an article on my progression of the damage. I lived in Vail, CO, was a downhill skier, climbed mountains, rode bicycles, could do jumping jacks, could cook and clean the house easily. Upon ingestion of the drug all of this was taken from me. I contacted a Vytorin lawyer and they were only taking DEATH AND LIVER FAILURE PATIENTS. Because I didn't take it until I died I am really screwed! The doctors never did any pre-tests that could be used to compare before and after results of what the drug did to me. And am astonished at the damage this drug did to me. > > I am working with a nurse who is helping me lengthen the muscles to improve circulation to the damaged sites. I worked with her on Thursday and we did a class today for 1 1/2 hours. Much to my dismay, this pain and damage is irreversible in me. But I keep trying anything to ease the symptoms. And I am on a CRUSADE TO TELL OTHERS. > > I do ZUMBA now, but cannot jump like the other participants. My feet were totally screwed up by VYTORIN. ANKLES WEAKENED, WRISTS, ELBOWS, NECK, HIPS compromised. It interrupts my sleep. Took away my earning power. Took away my body's ability to breathe properly. You name it; it was affected by the STATINS. I am still angry as heck this was forced upon me. My doctor still calls and tries to get me on the drugs. I refuse. I will not take a chance on losing what has taken about 5 years to regain for the quality of my life. And they are still trying to force this on me.> > And remember, Dr. Bearnice Golumb's video on statins. She was at UCLA. THEY WANT TO PUT STATINS IN THE WATER SYSTEM IN CALIFORNIA so everyone can still eat Mc's!!!!> > Just want to let you know I am still in the game. Please feel free to contact me. 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Guest guest Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 So its Corporate greed, capitalizing on the public's perception that serum cholesterol levels were the Villain in heart disease. And they didn't care how many people they injured in the process. Alternate email: marooned@...Bobby- Your Caribbean Travel Plannerwww.pinkystravel.com International Destinations, Resorts, Vacation PackagesPhilippine Destination Specialist To: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Sent: Friday, March 2, 2012 10:51 AM Subject: RE: Re: Statins: Muscle pain, damage and weakness, Hartke and all in the group. Bobby, early researches who found that statins affected cholesterol production knew that CoQ10 was also affected and that production was reduced. They included CoQ10 in the original formulation patents but were over ruled by the bean counters , so your greed guesstament is spot on, in my opinion.Mike S From: TakingLipitorAndHateIt [mailto:TakingLipitorAndHateIt ] On Behalf Of OlsonSent: Friday, March 02, 2012 6:34 AMTo: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Subject: Re: Re: Statins: Muscle pain, damage and weakness, Hartke and all in the group. McClure said: "I feel like we were just one big experiment" I have sometimes wondered that too . Then I shrug it off as nonsense. Then I can't help but start wondering again if we were some big experiment for bio-weapons. Looking back at the big picture of statins, none of it ever made sense. There never was any evidence blocking the mevalonate pathway prevented or reversed heart disease. But science knew very well the value of cholesterol in supporting life. Blocking its production would certainly result in major nerve, muscle, and cognitive problems. Science knew the value of cholesterol back in the 60's. So why did they block this important metabolic pathway? What was their ultimate purpose? Was it purely corporate greed playing on the public's acceptance of the lipid hypothesis? Or was it something beyond that? Bobby Alternate email: marooned@...Bobby- Your Caribbean Travel Plannerwww.pinkystravel.com International Destinations, Resorts, Vacation PackagesPhilippine Destination Specialist To: "TakingLipitorAndHateIt " <TakingLipitorAndHateIt > Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2012 4:35 PMSubject: Re: Re: Statins: Muscle pain, damage and weakness, Hartke and all in the group. Suzie! Hi! I have a younger sister named Suzanne so I am already endeared to you. It feels so good to be validated. Not everyone gets quadruple whammed from statins. Vytorin just knocked me for a loop. When it affected my memory was the worst. I miss my brain the most. I would rather take the sudden, hopefully final heart attack than live with the repercussions of taking Vytorin. My twins are raised, my job as a mom is done. My husband is diabetic & had pretty low cholesterol and they put him on statins. I begged him to not take them. He balked. Until he was getting ready for foot surgery, & he had to go off them; then he could feel what the drug did to him. Why some people suffer more than others is beyond me & the doctors. I feel like we were just one big experiment. It makes me so sad. I will be sad forever until someone, like a lawyer takes a statin and is well enough to take the drug companies to court. Not for $$$ so much as prompting them to acknowledge the damage, have Dr.s do the proper b4 testing so we have a benchmark to analyze the changes & damage, tell people how much CoQ10 they have to take, which my doctor never mentioned, prepare people for what can happen to them. Not just in a casual TV commercial. Some drugs cause people's jaws to come unhinged! Just a casual mention on a TV ad. It is not a casual problem to the person who has to deal with the damage the rest of their life. If I could un-ring a bell I would. How many are suffering in silence, never to be heard? But at least some of my friends now know to call me when they feel the horrible results of statin therapy. So, Suzanne, keep me posted! I pray you a miracle! I need one, too. McClure Hi , you wrote: " ANKLES WEAKENED, WRISTS, ELBOWS, NECK, HIPS compromised. It interrupts my sleep. Took away my earning power. Took away my body's ability to breathe properly. "Thank you for reminding me of problems I've had when i took statins. Extreme shortness of breath and muscle loss are two things that happened to me. I am not sure if the interrupted sleep is from statins, too, but I quit taking them recently and am taking other things to address the clogged arteries that put me into open heart surgery maybe 12 years ago. I am going to tell my doctor what I have chosen to do after studying the literature out there about statins and other treatments for my health issues - like low thyroid, also.Suzanne in Ohio>> A friend just called who remembered the hell I went through after taking Vytorin. It basically ruined my physical life. It is has been a constant effort at Rehabilitation centers, nutrition research, being pro-active to get myself well. I know people are getting tired of me trying to get the word out. When on FaceBook I always remind people to do their research before putting a statin in their body. I LIKEN IT TO TAKING CYANIDE! It was that destructive to my body! had contacted me some years after reading my post on Web MD, Nov of 2009 I think. I did not PDF THE POST UNFORTUNATELY! This is to let you know I am going to be 60 this year and have never recovered the full use of my upper arms (feels like rotator cuff). I have great difficulty doing anything that involves reaching up. Like getting something out of my closet, picking up babies, changing light bulbs, cleaning the house that involves reaching up above my core or reaching down below my core. I cooked my first full recipe yesterday. It has taken years to become functional. I basically gave up and isolated myself rather than have to explain over and over what did this to me. Statins are like a GATEWAY to your future diseases because it unlocks the key to future illnesses you would not get for 15-20 years in the future. I suddenly got ARTHRITIS IN MY HANDS. BIG CYSTS ON MY PINKY FINGERS THAT REQUIRED SURGERIES. BOTH PINKY FINGERS ARE LAYING DOWN ARTHRITIS deposits very quickly. I collected beads for 25 years thinking i would be doing creative projects after retiring! HA! The joke was on me! > > So if you still have a copy of that Web MD post which they will no longer allow us access to; please copy it and post it to the site. I have a copy, but it is not digital. You had contacted me soon after my post to possibly do an article on my progression of the damage. I lived in Vail, CO, was a downhill skier, climbed mountains, rode bicycles, could do jumping jacks, could cook and clean the house easily. Upon ingestion of the drug all of this was taken from me. I contacted a Vytorin lawyer and they were only taking DEATH AND LIVER FAILURE PATIENTS. Because I didn't take it until I died I am really screwed! The doctors never did any pre-tests that could be used to compare before and after results of what the drug did to me. And am astonished at the damage this drug did to me. > > I am working with a nurse who is helping me lengthen the muscles to improve circulation to the damaged sites. I worked with her on Thursday and we did a class today for 1 1/2 hours. Much to my dismay, this pain and damage is irreversible in me. But I keep trying anything to ease the symptoms. And I am on a CRUSADE TO TELL OTHERS. > > I do ZUMBA now, but cannot jump like the other participants. My feet were totally screwed up by VYTORIN. ANKLES WEAKENED, WRISTS, ELBOWS, NECK, HIPS compromised. It interrupts my sleep. Took away my earning power. Took away my body's ability to breathe properly. You name it; it was affected by the STATINS. I am still angry as heck this was forced upon me. My doctor still calls and tries to get me on the drugs. I refuse. I will not take a chance on losing what has taken about 5 years to regain for the quality of my life. And they are still trying to force this on me.> > And remember, Dr. Bearnice Golumb's video on statins. She was at UCLA. THEY WANT TO PUT STATINS IN THE WATER SYSTEM IN CALIFORNIA so everyone can still eat Mc's!!!!> > Just want to let you know I am still in the game. Please feel free to contact me. McClure>= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 Hey Bobby! Thanks for your response. I look forward to educating my generation on this subject! I think that the Rx companies were so anxiousto find a cure, that when they came upon a drug that loweredtheir arbitrary number, they disregarded the prospect ofdebilitating side effects. You have to be in our shoes toreact or challenge the outcome. I am so grateful to drugcompanies for creating thyroid medicine. I have no side effectsat all from Synthroid or Levothyroxin whatsoever, except when my own body betrays me and fluctuates internallyon the Thyroid hormones my brain tells itself to give. ThenI have to call & retest. But because of insurance restrictionon our doctors, they are required to be a Jack-All-Trades & handle all illnesses. I would like to see an endocrinologist. I readsomewhere that Abraham Lincoln's wife, Todd Lincoln, was put in an institution when she manifested the disease.Thyroid disease makes you crazy for awhile. What is the connection between thyroid & statins? It was alluded to inthe first Dr.'s articles on WebMd (Dr. Richman?). No real emphasis has been stated since I backed off for awhile. Did I missany pertinent info on the thyroid/statin relationship? I lent my $50 book on Thyroidism to someone & they never returned it!Due to lack of memory from Statins, I don't recall the author, & hewas brilliant! McClure said: "I feel like we were just one big experiment"I have sometimes wondered that too . Then I shrug it off as nonsense. Then I can't help but start wondering again if we were some big experiment for bio-weapons. Looking back at the big picture of statins, none of it ever made sense. There never was any evidence blocking the mevalonate pathway prevented or reversed heart disease. But science knew very well the value of cholesterol in supporting life. Blocking its production would certainly result in major nerve, muscle, and cognitive problems. Science knew the value of cholesterol back in the 60's. So why did they block this important metabolic pathway? What was their ultimate purpose? Was it purely corporate greed playing on the public's acceptance of the lipid hypothesis? Or was it something beyond that?Bobby Alternate email: marooned@...Bobby- Your Caribbean Travel Plannerwww.pinkystravel.com International Destinations, Resorts, Vacation PackagesPhilippine Destination Specialist To: "TakingLipitorAndHateIt " <TakingLipitorAndHateIt > Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2012 4:35 PM Subject: Re: Re: Statins: Muscle pain, damage and weakness, Hartke and all in the group. Suzie! Hi! I have a younger sister named Suzanne so I am already endeared to you. It feels so good to be validated. Not everyone gets quadruple whammed from statins. Vytorin just knocked me for a loop. When it affected my memory was the worst. I miss my brain the most. I would rather take the sudden, hopefully final heart attack than live with the repercussions of taking Vytorin. My twins are raised, my job as a mom is done. My husband is diabetic & had pretty low cholesterol and they put him on statins. I begged him to not take them. He balked. Until he was getting ready for foot surgery, & he had to go off them; then he could feel what the drug did to him. Why some people suffer more than others is beyond me & the doctors. I feel like we were just one big experiment. It makes me so sad. I will be sad forever until someone, like a lawyer takes a statin and is well enough to take the drug companies to court. Not for $$$ so much as prompting them to acknowledge the damage, have Dr.s do the proper b4 testing so we have a benchmark to analyze the changes & damage, tell people how much CoQ10 they have to take, which my doctor never mentioned, prepare people for what can happen to them. Not just in a casual TV commercial. Some drugs cause people's jaws to come unhinged! Just a casual mention on a TV ad. It is not a casual problem to the person who has to deal with the damage the rest of their life. If I could un-ring a bell I would. How many are suffering in silence, never to be heard? But at least some of my friends now know to call me when they feel the horrible results of statin therapy. So, Suzanne, keep me posted! I pray you a miracle! I need one, too. McClure Hi , you wrote: " ANKLES WEAKENED, WRISTS, ELBOWS, NECK, HIPS compromised. It interrupts my sleep. Took away my earning power. Took away my body's ability to breathe properly. "Thank you for reminding me of problems I've had when i took statins. Extreme shortness of breath and muscle loss are two things that happened to me. I am not sure if the interrupted sleep is from statins, too, but I quit taking them recently and am taking other things to address the clogged arteries that put me into open heart surgery maybe 12 years ago. I am going to tell my doctor what I have chosen to do after studying the literature out there about statins and other treatments for my health issues - like low thyroid, also.Suzanne in Ohio>> A friend just called who remembered the hell I went through after taking Vytorin. It basically ruined my physical life. It is has been a constant effort at Rehabilitation centers, nutrition research, being pro-active to get myself well. I know people are getting tired of me trying to get the word out. When on FaceBook I always remind people to do their research before putting a statin in their body. I LIKEN IT TO TAKING CYANIDE! It was that destructive to my body! had contacted me some years after reading my post on Web MD, Nov of 2009 I think. I did not PDF THE POST UNFORTUNATELY! This is to let you know I am going to be 60 this year and have never recovered the full use of my upper arms (feels like rotator cuff). I have great difficulty doing anything that involves reaching up. Like getting something out of my closet, picking up babies, changing light bulbs, cleaning the house that involves reaching up above my core or reaching down below my core. I cooked my first full recipe yesterday. It has taken years to become functional. I basically gave up and isolated myself rather than have to explain over and over what did this to me. Statins are like a GATEWAY to your future diseases because it unlocks the key to future illnesses you would not get for 15-20 years in the future. I suddenly got ARTHRITIS IN MY HANDS. BIG CYSTS ON MY PINKY FINGERS THAT REQUIRED SURGERIES. BOTH PINKY FINGERS ARE LAYING DOWN ARTHRITIS deposits very quickly. I collected beads for 25 years thinking i would be doing creative projects after retiring! HA! The joke was on me! > > So if you still have a copy of that Web MD post which they will no longer allow us access to; please copy it and post it to the site. I have a copy, but it is not digital. You had contacted me soon after my post to possibly do an article on my progression of the damage. I lived in Vail, CO, was a downhill skier, climbed mountains, rode bicycles, could do jumping jacks, could cook and clean the house easily. Upon ingestion of the drug all of this was taken from me. I contacted a Vytorin lawyer and they were only taking DEATH AND LIVER FAILURE PATIENTS. Because I didn't take it until I died I am really screwed! The doctors never did any pre-tests that could be used to compare before and after results of what the drug did to me. And am astonished at the damage this drug did to me. > > I am working with a nurse who is helping me lengthen the muscles to improve circulation to the damaged sites. I worked with her on Thursday and we did a class today for 1 1/2 hours. Much to my dismay, this pain and damage is irreversible in me. But I keep trying anything to ease the symptoms. And I am on a CRUSADE TO TELL OTHERS. > > I do ZUMBA now, but cannot jump like the other participants. My feet were totally screwed up by VYTORIN. ANKLES WEAKENED, WRISTS, ELBOWS, NECK, HIPS compromised. It interrupts my sleep. Took away my earning power. Took away my body's ability to breathe properly. You name it; it was affected by the STATINS. I am still angry as heck this was forced upon me. My doctor still calls and tries to get me on the drugs. I refuse. I will not take a chance on losing what has taken about 5 years to regain for the quality of my life. And they are still trying to force this on me.> > And remember, Dr. Bearnice Golumb's video on statins. She was at UCLA. THEY WANT TO PUT STATINS IN THE WATER SYSTEM IN CALIFORNIA so everyone can still eat Mc's!!!!> > Just want to let you know I am still in the game. Please feel free to contact me. 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Guest guest Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 Pamela! We were in London last Thanksgiving. We loveGreat Britain. Great exhibit at the British museum of artfullyillustrated manuscripts including Bibles mainly. Gorgeous originals with Gold & vibrant colors. A must see if you go into the city.Now, back to STATINS! I would post my old commentsfrom WebMD, but they removed our voice, place for comments, and denied us a forum for the truth, that with thelarge numbers of people ingesting the drug there are manymore suffering. This is a great opportunity for the drug companiesto become our heroes & help restore us to health! Since STATINS affect muscles, & the HEART is a muscle, I havebeen paying closer attention to advances inheart related medicine. I had a funky EKG, so my Dr., who really does seem to care, sent me for a 3 hour stress test. I passed with flying colors a few years back. But I was reading Dr. Crandall's Newsletter on Newsmax & learned a few things. There is now a diagnostic PLAC TEST to measure PLAC in your arteries. That's great. Dr. Crandall, I believe, is an INTERVENTIONAL CARDIOLOGIST. New termfor me. He prefers you don't take a statin unless neededas a bridge while you are changing lifestyle. He also said requestan LDL PATTERN TEST. If you have LDL with B pattern, THAT'S BAD. You are probably eating a diet high in sugar & fat. You can get embedded LDL, then the immune system kicks in, creates blisters in the arteries, which attracts more plaque & tries to heal you with red blood cells (clots) that can break apart and finish you off or disable you. (hope I got that right. Refer to his HEART HEALTH REPORT for details). So the inflammation & immune responses may be killing us too.The first sign I got of inflammation was periodontal disease in my twenties. I eat an incredibly healthy diet, much to my husband's dismay! My dinner today was Arugala ,spinach, green onions, avocado, green beans, green olives & blueberries with Hendricksons Sweet Vinegar & Oil Original salad dressing. Usually put fresh ground FLAX on everything, but forgot. Point being, I have never been a fast food lover like my diabetic husband (type 2). He has low cholesterol; I have high. Go figure!Dr. Crandall has had a heart attack (Widow Maker), at age 48. I trust people who have been through this in life rather than just theory. Has anyone in the STATIN HATER AUDIENCE found a good diet to eliminate inflammation?My Periodontist did have me on low dose antibiotics to control bleeding of the gums. I am concerned that I am drip, drip, dripping inflammation down to my heart from my mouth. If it is in our blood then hopefully the blood/brain barrier protects the brain. Pamela! Did your doctors tell what they suspected produced your issues in the brain, or was it the timing of the medicine that correlates with appearance of the problem? I only took Vytorin on and off for about 9 months. I just never could remember to take it before bed. The last 3 months, when I took it daily, directly correlates to the onset of all the horrible muscle weakness & severe pain. I called the pharmacy & they said I never took the medicine. But I found my old Rx bottle & we have tax documents that show all my meds. Got to be prepared. Also, I have requested that my husband have an autopsy performed on my body if I pass on first, to look for STATIN DAMAGE. I am an organ donor & need to produce a document that would require this be done in conjunction with the autopsy evaluation. I wonder how this would be co-ordinated. I would hate to have gone through this trauma & not benefit society. They probably never look for statin damage. Anyone know anything about autopsies for statin damage? Not everyone's favorite topic.Hang in there Pamela! You are not alone! Keep in touch! It was great to hear from someone who has experienced similar side effects. Misery loves company! McClure Suzanne & How I resonate with both of you.I was on Statins for 28 months, and I nearly died.I had severe memory loss and lack of cognitive skills- this damage I have never recovered from. Muscle damage, bowel incontinence, tendonitis, tinnitus , neuropathy, sciatica, cysts on my brain ( calcium deposits ) otitis, immune system shot to bits, + much more. The pushers and drug makers should be sent to jail with the key thrown away for what they have done to me. Pamela SP Suffolk, England > > > > > > A friend just called who remembered the hell I went through after taking Vytorin. It basically ruined my physical life. It is has been a constant effort at Rehabilitation centers, nutrition research, being pro-active to get myself well. I know people are getting tired of me trying to get the word out. When on FaceBook I always remind people to do their research before putting a statin in their body. I LIKEN IT TO TAKING CYANIDE! It was that destructive to my body! had contacted me some years after reading my post on Web MD, Nov of 2009 I think. I did not PDF THE POST UNFORTUNATELY! This is to let you know I am going to be 60 this year and have never recovered the full use of my upper arms (feels like rotator cuff). I have great difficulty doing anything that involves reaching up. Like getting something out of my closet, picking up babies, changing light bulbs, cleaning the house that involves reaching up above my core or reaching down below my core. I cooked my first full recipe yesterday. It has taken years to become functional. I basically gave up and isolated myself rather than have to explain over and over what did this to me. Statins are like a GATEWAY to your future diseases because it unlocks the key to future illnesses you would not get for 15-20 years in the future. I suddenly got ARTHRITIS IN MY HANDS. BIG CYSTS ON MY PINKY FINGERS THAT REQUIRED SURGERIES. BOTH PINKY FINGERS ARE LAYING DOWN ARTHRITIS deposits very quickly. I collected beads for 25 years thinking i would be doing creative projects after retiring! HA! The joke was on me! > > > > > > So if you still have a copy of that Web MD post which they will no longer allow us access to; please copy it and post it to the site. I have a copy, but it is not digital. You had contacted me soon after my post to possibly do an article on my progression of the damage. I lived in Vail, CO, was a downhill skier, climbed mountains, rode bicycles, could do jumping jacks, could cook and clean the house easily. Upon ingestion of the drug all of this was taken from me. I contacted a Vytorin lawyer and they were only taking DEATH AND LIVER FAILURE PATIENTS. Because I didn't take it until I died I am really screwed! The doctors never did any pre-tests that could be used to compare before and after results of what the drug did to me. And am astonished at the damage this drug did to me. > > > > > > I am working with a nurse who is helping me lengthen the muscles to improve circulation to the damaged sites. I worked with her on Thursday and we did a class today for 1 1/2 hours. Much to my dismay, this pain and damage is irreversible in me. But I keep trying anything to ease the symptoms. And I am on a CRUSADE TO TELL OTHERS. > > > > > > I do ZUMBA now, but cannot jump like the other participants. My feet were totally screwed up by VYTORIN. ANKLES WEAKENED, WRISTS, ELBOWS, NECK, HIPS compromised. It interrupts my sleep. Took away my earning power. Took away my body's ability to breathe properly. You name it; it was affected by the STATINS. I am still angry as heck this was forced upon me. My doctor still calls and tries to get me on the drugs. I refuse. I will not take a chance on losing what has taken about 5 years to regain for the quality of my life. And they are still trying to force this on me. > > > > > > And remember, Dr. Bearnice Golumb's video on statins. She was at UCLA. THEY WANT TO PUT STATINS IN THE WATER SYSTEM IN CALIFORNIA so everyone can still eat Mc's!!!! > > > > > > Just want to let you know I am still in the game. Please feel free to contact me. McClure > > > > > > > > > > > TODAY(Beta) • Powered by Yahoo! > > Bieber gets rare sportscar for birthday > > The star's manager gives him a "flashy" vehicle that'll "make you stand out" on Ellen's show. > > Privacy Policy > = Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 Ah but Bobby At least the 8 track player had a purpose and didn't kill anyone- I loved mine! Pamela > >> > >> A friend just called who remembered the hell I went through after taking Vytorin. It basically ruined my physical life. It is has been a constant effort at Rehabilitation centers, nutrition research, being pro-active to get myself well. I know people are getting tired of me trying to get the word out. When on FaceBook I always remind people to do their research before putting a statin in their body. I LIKEN IT TO TAKING CYANIDE! It was that destructive to my body! had contacted me some years after reading my post on Web MD, Nov of 2009 I think. I did not PDF THE POST UNFORTUNATELY! This is to let you know I am going to be 60 this year and have never recovered the full use of my upper arms (feels like rotator cuff). I have great difficulty doing anything that involves reaching up. Like getting something out of my closet, picking up babies, changing light bulbs, cleaning the house that involves reaching up above my core or reaching down below > my core. I cooked my first full recipe yesterday. It has taken years to become functional. I basically gave up and isolated myself rather than have to explain over and over what did this to me. Statins are like a GATEWAY to your future diseases because it unlocks the key to future illnesses you would not get for 15-20 years in the future. I suddenly got ARTHRITIS IN MY HANDS. BIG CYSTS ON MY PINKY FINGERS THAT REQUIRED SURGERIES. BOTH PINKY FINGERS ARE LAYING DOWN ARTHRITIS deposits very quickly. I collected beads for 25 years thinking i would be doing creative projects after retiring! HA! The joke was on me! > >> > >> So if you still have a copy of that Web MD post which they will no longer allow us access to; please copy it and post it to the site. I have a copy, but it is not digital. You had contacted me soon after my post to possibly do an article on my progression of the damage. I lived in Vail, CO, was a downhill skier, climbed mountains, rode bicycles, could do jumping jacks, could cook and clean the house easily. Upon ingestion of the drug all of this was taken from me. I contacted a Vytorin lawyer and they were only taking DEATH AND LIVER FAILURE PATIENTS. Because I didn't take it until I died I am really screwed! The doctors never did any pre-tests that could be used to compare before and after results of what the drug did to me. And am astonished at the damage this drug did to me. > >> > >> I am working with a nurse who is helping me lengthen the muscles to improve circulation to the damaged sites. I worked with her on Thursday and we did a class today for 1 1/2 hours. Much to my dismay, this pain and damage is irreversible in me. But I keep trying anything to ease the symptoms. And I am on a CRUSADE TO TELL OTHERS. > >> > >> I do ZUMBA now, but cannot jump like the other participants. My feet were totally screwed up by VYTORIN. ANKLES WEAKENED, WRISTS, ELBOWS, NECK, HIPS compromised. It interrupts my sleep. Took away my earning power. Took away my body's ability to breathe properly. You name it; it was affected by the STATINS. I am still angry as heck this was forced upon me. My doctor still calls and tries to get me on the drugs. I refuse. I will not take a chance on losing what has taken about 5 years to regain for the quality of my life. And they are still trying to force this on me. > >> > >> And remember, Dr. Bearnice Golumb's video on statins. She was at UCLA. THEY WANT TO PUT STATINS IN THE WATER SYSTEM IN CALIFORNIA so everyone can still eat Mc's!!!! > >> > >> Just want to let you know I am still in the game. Please feel free to contact me. McClure > >> > = >  > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 That is my take, and I see no evidence from the medical community that there is concern about side effects or the necessity to help prevent certain issues by addressing supplements that help offset the damage. Again why loose a patient when you don’t have to. Mean, but likely until such time as medical practitioners concentrate on prevention instead of disease control.Mike S From: TakingLipitorAndHateIt [mailto:TakingLipitorAndHateIt ] On Behalf Of OlsonSent: Friday, March 02, 2012 12:11 PMTo: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Subject: Re: Re: Statins: Muscle pain, damage and weakness, Hartke and all in the group. So its Corporate greed, capitalizing on the public's perception that serum cholesterol levels were the Villain in heart disease. And they didn't care how many people they injured in the process. Alternate email: marooned@...Bobby- Your Caribbean Travel Plannerwww.pinkystravel.com International Destinations, Resorts, Vacation PackagesPhilippine Destination Specialist To: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Sent: Friday, March 2, 2012 10:51 AMSubject: RE: Re: Statins: Muscle pain, damage and weakness, Hartke and all in the group. Bobby, early researches who found that statins affected cholesterol production knew that CoQ10 was also affected and that production was reduced. They included CoQ10 in the original formulation patents but were over ruled by the bean counters , so your greed guesstament is spot on, in my opinion.Mike S From: TakingLipitorAndHateIt [mailto:TakingLipitorAndHateIt ] On Behalf Of OlsonSent: Friday, March 02, 2012 6:34 AMTo: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Subject: Re: Re: Statins: Muscle pain, damage and weakness, Hartke and all in the group. McClure said: " I feel like we were just one big experiment " I have sometimes wondered that too . Then I shrug it off as nonsense. Then I can't help but start wondering again if we were some big experiment for bio-weapons. Looking back at the big picture of statins, none of it ever made sense. There never was any evidence blocking the mevalonate pathway prevented or reversed heart disease. But science knew very well the value of cholesterol in supporting life. Blocking its production would certainly result in major nerve, muscle, and cognitive problems. Science knew the value of cholesterol back in the 60's. So why did they block this important metabolic pathway? What was their ultimate purpose? Was it purely corporate greed playing on the public's acceptance of the lipid hypothesis? Or was it something beyond that? Bobby Alternate email: marooned@...Bobby- Your Caribbean Travel Plannerwww.pinkystravel.com International Destinations, Resorts, Vacation PackagesPhilippine Destination Specialist To: " TakingLipitorAndHateIt " <TakingLipitorAndHateIt > Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2012 4:35 PMSubject: Re: Re: Statins: Muscle pain, damage and weakness, Hartke and all in the group. Suzie! Hi! I have a younger sister named Suzanne so I am already endeared to you. It feels so good to be validated. Not everyone gets quadruple whammed from statins. Vytorin just knocked me for a loop. When it affected my memory was the worst. I miss my brain the most. I would rather take the sudden, hopefully final heart attack than live with the repercussions of taking Vytorin. My twins are raised, my job as a mom is done. My husband is diabetic & had pretty low cholesterol and they put him on statins. I begged him to not take them. He balked. Until he was getting ready for foot surgery, & he had to go off them; then he could feel what the drug did to him. Why some people suffer more than others is beyond me & the doctors. I feel like we were just one big experiment. It makes me so sad. I will be sad forever until someone, like a lawyer takes a statin and is well enough to take the drug companies to court. Not for $$$ so much as prompting them to acknowledge the damage, have Dr.s do the proper b4 testing so we have a benchmark to analyze the changes & damage, tell people how much CoQ10 they have to take, which my doctor never mentioned, prepare people for what can happen to them. Not just in a casual TV commercial. Some drugs cause people's jaws to come unhinged! Just a casual mention on a TV ad. It is not a casual problem to the person who has to deal with the damage the rest of their life. If I could un-ring a bell I would. How many are suffering in silence, never to be heard? But at least some of my friends now know to call me when they feel the horrible results of statin therapy. So, Suzanne, keep me posted! I pray you a miracle! I need one, too. McClure Hi , you wrote: " ANKLES WEAKENED, WRISTS, ELBOWS, NECK, HIPS compromised. It interrupts my sleep. Took away my earning power. Took away my body's ability to breathe properly. " Thank you for reminding me of problems I've had when i took statins. Extreme shortness of breath and muscle loss are two things that happened to me. I am not sure if the interrupted sleep is from statins, too, but I quit taking them recently and am taking other things to address the clogged arteries that put me into open heart surgery maybe 12 years ago. I am going to tell my doctor what I have chosen to do after studying the literature out there about statins and other treatments for my health issues - like low thyroid, also.Suzanne in Ohio>> A friend just called who remembered the hell I went through after taking Vytorin. It basically ruined my physical life. It is has been a constant effort at Rehabilitation centers, nutrition research, being pro-active to get myself well. I know people are getting tired of me trying to get the word out. When on FaceBook I always remind people to do their research before putting a statin in their body. I LIKEN IT TO TAKING CYANIDE! It was that destructive to my body! had contacted me some years after reading my post on Web MD, Nov of 2009 I think. I did not PDF THE POST UNFORTUNATELY! This is to let you know I am going to be 60 this year and have never recovered the full use of my upper arms (feels like rotator cuff). I have great difficulty doing anything that involves reaching up. Like getting something out of my closet, picking up babies, changing light bulbs, cleaning the house that involves reaching up above my core or reaching down below my core. I cooked my first full recipe yesterday. It has taken years to become functional. I basically gave up and isolated myself rather than have to explain over and over what did this to me. Statins are like a GATEWAY to your future diseases because it unlocks the key to future illnesses you would not get for 15-20 years in the future. I suddenly got ARTHRITIS IN MY HANDS. BIG CYSTS ON MY PINKY FINGERS THAT REQUIRED SURGERIES. BOTH PINKY FINGERS ARE LAYING DOWN ARTHRITIS deposits very quickly. I collected beads for 25 years thinking i would be doing creative projects after retiring! HA! The joke was on me! > > So if you still have a copy of that Web MD post which they will no longer allow us access to; please copy it and post it to the site. I have a copy, but it is not digital. You had contacted me soon after my post to possibly do an article on my progression of the damage. I lived in Vail, CO, was a downhill skier, climbed mountains, rode bicycles, could do jumping jacks, could cook and clean the house easily. Upon ingestion of the drug all of this was taken from me. I contacted a Vytorin lawyer and they were only taking DEATH AND LIVER FAILURE PATIENTS. Because I didn't take it until I died I am really screwed! The doctors never did any pre-tests that could be used to compare before and after results of what the drug did to me. And am astonished at the damage this drug did to me. > > I am working with a nurse who is helping me lengthen the muscles to improve circulation to the damaged sites. I worked with her on Thursday and we did a class today for 1 1/2 hours. Much to my dismay, this pain and damage is irreversible in me. But I keep trying anything to ease the symptoms. And I am on a CRUSADE TO TELL OTHERS. > > I do ZUMBA now, but cannot jump like the other participants. My feet were totally screwed up by VYTORIN. ANKLES WEAKENED, WRISTS, ELBOWS, NECK, HIPS compromised. It interrupts my sleep. Took away my earning power. Took away my body's ability to breathe properly. You name it; it was affected by the STATINS. I am still angry as heck this was forced upon me. My doctor still calls and tries to get me on the drugs. I refuse. I will not take a chance on losing what has taken about 5 years to regain for the quality of my life. And they are still trying to force this on me.> > And remember, Dr. Bearnice Golumb's video on statins. She was at UCLA. THEY WANT TO PUT STATINS IN THE WATER SYSTEM IN CALIFORNIA so everyone can still eat Mc's!!!!> > Just want to let you know I am still in the game. Please feel free to contact me. McClure>= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 I had not seen bowel damage listed in the statin side-effects; has anyone else had this? Also, a dentist I saw recently said he was surprised to see my healthy teeth in the same mouth as gums as damaged as mine. Is gum damage " on the list " too? I think that when the cholesterol scare first came up, they didn't know anything about the mevolate pathway. The first attempts at drug control of cholesterol were fibrates, not statins. I notice that there are increasing reports of statin problems, but the ones in the mainstream media always have a disclaimer that " dr. somebody says you should still take your statins. " At a high school reunion a few years ago, I mentioned my opinion of statins in a conversation, and a classmate who was married to a cardiologist got a bit huffy and said that people sometimes need to try a different statin to minimize the side effects, but she was totally gut-level convinced of the whole cholesterol/statin belief system. There is tremendous resistence to questioning this, not only for the money angle, but would you like to live with accepting responsbility for the damage you unwittingly (or stubbornly) were contributing to? Linden Re: Statins: Muscle pain, damage and weakness, Hartke and all in the group. Suzanne & How I resonate with both of you.I was on Statins for 28 months, and I nearly died.I had severe memory loss and lack of cognitive skills- this damage I have never recovered from. Muscle damage, bowel incontinence, tendonitis, tinnitus , neuropathy, sciatica, cysts on my brain ( calcium deposits ) otitis, immune system shot to bits, + much more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 Linden -it's the Emperors new clothes, one day they will all all wake up and smell the roses.As for my bowels, it's affected my internal muscles, which have made me incontinent.Pamela > > I had not seen bowel damage listed in the statin side-effects; has > anyone else had this? Also, a dentist I saw recently said he was > surprised to see my healthy teeth in the same mouth as gums as damaged > as mine. Is gum damage " on the list " too? > I think that when the cholesterol scare first came up, they didn't know > anything about the mevolate pathway. The first attempts at drug > control of cholesterol were fibrates, not statins. > I notice that there are increasing reports of statin problems, but the > ones in the mainstream media always have a disclaimer that " dr. > somebody says you should still take your statins. " At a high school > reunion a few years ago, I mentioned my opinion of statins in a > conversation, and a classmate who was married to a cardiologist got a > bit huffy and said that people sometimes need to try a different statin > to minimize the side effects, but she was totally gut-level convinced > of the whole cholesterol/statin belief system. There is tremendous > resistence to questioning this, not only for the money angle, but would > you like to live with accepting responsbility for the damage you > unwittingly (or stubbornly) were contributing to? > > Linden > > > Re: Statins: Muscle pain, damage and > weakness, Hartke and all in the group. > > > Suzanne & > > How I resonate with both of you.I was on Statins for 28 months, and I > nearly died.I had severe memory loss and lack of cognitive skills- this > damage I have never recovered from. > Muscle damage, bowel incontinence, tendonitis, tinnitus , neuropathy, > sciatica, cysts on my brain ( calcium deposits ) otitis, immune system > shot to bits, + much more. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 , The relationship between hypothyroidism and statins is increased risk of muscle pain and tenderness in statin patients who are hypothyroid. Its spelled out in the medical literature so this is well know.My theory: Hypothyroidism is a metabolic deficiency of the thyroid gland. Statins induce another metabolic deficiency of the mevalonate pathway. My theory is the double stacking of one metabolic deficiency upon another becomes the straw that breaks the camels back. Myopathy results. Alternate email: marooned@...Bobby- Your Caribbean Travel Plannerwww.pinkystravel.com International Destinations, Resorts, Vacation PackagesPhilippine Destination Specialist To: "TakingLipitorAndHateIt " <TakingLipitorAndHateIt > Sent: Friday, March 2, 2012 6:25 PM Subject: Re: Re: Statins: Muscle pain, damage and weakness, Hartke and all in the group. Hey Bobby! Thanks for your response. I look forward to educating my generation on this subject! I think that the Rx companies were so anxiousto find a cure, that when they came upon a drug that loweredtheir arbitrary number, they disregarded the prospect ofdebilitating side effects. You have to be in our shoes toreact or challenge the outcome. I am so grateful to drugcompanies for creating thyroid medicine. I have no side effectsat all from Synthroid or Levothyroxin whatsoever, except when my own body betrays me and fluctuates internallyon the Thyroid hormones my brain tells itself to give. ThenI have to call & retest. But because of insurance restrictionon our doctors, they are required to be a Jack-All-Trades & handle all illnesses. I would like to see an endocrinologist. I readsomewhere that Abraham Lincoln's wife, Todd Lincoln, was put in an institution when she manifested the disease.Thyroid disease makes you crazy for awhile. What is the connection between thyroid & statins? It was alluded to inthe first Dr.'s articles on WebMd (Dr. Richman?). No real emphasis has been stated since I backed off for awhile. Did I missany pertinent info on the thyroid/statin relationship? I lent my $50 book on Thyroidism to someone & they never returned it!Due to lack of memory from Statins, I don't recall the author, & hewas brilliant! McClure said: "I feel like we were just one big experiment"I have sometimes wondered that too . Then I shrug it off as nonsense. Then I can't help but start wondering again if we were some big experiment for bio-weapons. Looking back at the big picture of statins, none of it ever made sense. There never was any evidence blocking the mevalonate pathway prevented or reversed heart disease. But science knew very well the value of cholesterol in supporting life. Blocking its production would certainly result in major nerve, muscle, and cognitive problems. Science knew the value of cholesterol back in the 60's. So why did they block this important metabolic pathway? What was their ultimate purpose? Was it purely corporate greed playing on the public's acceptance of the lipid hypothesis? Or was it something beyond that?Bobby Alternate email: marooned@...Bobby- Your Caribbean Travel Plannerwww.pinkystravel.com International Destinations, Resorts, Vacation PackagesPhilippine Destination Specialist To: "TakingLipitorAndHateIt " <TakingLipitorAndHateIt > Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2012 4:35 PM Subject: Re: Re: Statins: Muscle pain, damage and weakness, Hartke and all in the group. Suzie! Hi! I have a younger sister named Suzanne so I am already endeared to you. It feels so good to be validated. Not everyone gets quadruple whammed from statins. Vytorin just knocked me for a loop. When it affected my memory was the worst. I miss my brain the most. I would rather take the sudden, hopefully final heart attack than live with the repercussions of taking Vytorin. My twins are raised, my job as a mom is done. My husband is diabetic & had pretty low cholesterol and they put him on statins. I begged him to not take them. He balked. Until he was getting ready for foot surgery, & he had to go off them; then he could feel what the drug did to him. Why some people suffer more than others is beyond me & the doctors. I feel like we were just one big experiment. It makes me so sad. I will be sad forever until someone, like a lawyer takes a statin and is well enough to take the drug companies to court. Not for $$$ so much as prompting them to acknowledge the damage, have Dr.s do the proper b4 testing so we have a benchmark to analyze the changes & damage, tell people how much CoQ10 they have to take, which my doctor never mentioned, prepare people for what can happen to them. Not just in a casual TV commercial. Some drugs cause people's jaws to come unhinged! Just a casual mention on a TV ad. It is not a casual problem to the person who has to deal with the damage the rest of their life. If I could un-ring a bell I would. How many are suffering in silence, never to be heard? But at least some of my friends now know to call me when they feel the horrible results of statin therapy. So, Suzanne, keep me posted! I pray you a miracle! I need one, too. McClure Hi , you wrote: " ANKLES WEAKENED, WRISTS, ELBOWS, NECK, HIPS compromised. It interrupts my sleep. Took away my earning power. Took away my body's ability to breathe properly. "Thank you for reminding me of problems I've had when i took statins. Extreme shortness of breath and muscle loss are two things that happened to me. I am not sure if the interrupted sleep is from statins, too, but I quit taking them recently and am taking other things to address the clogged arteries that put me into open heart surgery maybe 12 years ago. I am going to tell my doctor what I have chosen to do after studying the literature out there about statins and other treatments for my health issues - like low thyroid, also.Suzanne in Ohio>> A friend just called who remembered the hell I went through after taking Vytorin. It basically ruined my physical life. It is has been a constant effort at Rehabilitation centers, nutrition research, being pro-active to get myself well. I know people are getting tired of me trying to get the word out. When on FaceBook I always remind people to do their research before putting a statin in their body. I LIKEN IT TO TAKING CYANIDE! It was that destructive to my body! had contacted me some years after reading my post on Web MD, Nov of 2009 I think. I did not PDF THE POST UNFORTUNATELY! This is to let you know I am going to be 60 this year and have never recovered the full use of my upper arms (feels like rotator cuff). I have great difficulty doing anything that involves reaching up. Like getting something out of my closet, picking up babies, changing light bulbs, cleaning the house that involves reaching up above my core or reaching down below my core. I cooked my first full recipe yesterday. It has taken years to become functional. I basically gave up and isolated myself rather than have to explain over and over what did this to me. Statins are like a GATEWAY to your future diseases because it unlocks the key to future illnesses you would not get for 15-20 years in the future. I suddenly got ARTHRITIS IN MY HANDS. BIG CYSTS ON MY PINKY FINGERS THAT REQUIRED SURGERIES. BOTH PINKY FINGERS ARE LAYING DOWN ARTHRITIS deposits very quickly. I collected beads for 25 years thinking i would be doing creative projects after retiring! HA! The joke was on me! > > So if you still have a copy of that Web MD post which they will no longer allow us access to; please copy it and post it to the site. I have a copy, but it is not digital. You had contacted me soon after my post to possibly do an article on my progression of the damage. I lived in Vail, CO, was a downhill skier, climbed mountains, rode bicycles, could do jumping jacks, could cook and clean the house easily. Upon ingestion of the drug all of this was taken from me. I contacted a Vytorin lawyer and they were only taking DEATH AND LIVER FAILURE PATIENTS. Because I didn't take it until I died I am really screwed! The doctors never did any pre-tests that could be used to compare before and after results of what the drug did to me. And am astonished at the damage this drug did to me. > > I am working with a nurse who is helping me lengthen the muscles to improve circulation to the damaged sites. I worked with her on Thursday and we did a class today for 1 1/2 hours. Much to my dismay, this pain and damage is irreversible in me. But I keep trying anything to ease the symptoms. And I am on a CRUSADE TO TELL OTHERS. > > I do ZUMBA now, but cannot jump like the other participants. My feet were totally screwed up by VYTORIN. ANKLES WEAKENED, WRISTS, ELBOWS, NECK, HIPS compromised. It interrupts my sleep. Took away my earning power. Took away my body's ability to breathe properly. You name it; it was affected by the STATINS. I am still angry as heck this was forced upon me. My doctor still calls and tries to get me on the drugs. I refuse. I will not take a chance on losing what has taken about 5 years to regain for the quality of my life. And they are still trying to force this on me.> > And remember, Dr. Bearnice Golumb's video on statins. She was at UCLA. THEY WANT TO PUT STATINS IN THE WATER SYSTEM IN CALIFORNIA so everyone can still eat Mc's!!!!> > Just want to let you know I am still in the game. Please feel free to contact me. McClure> = = Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2012 Report Share Posted March 6, 2012 Unfortunately, people can become irrationally convinced of thngs--like the old saying, " My mind is made up--don't confuse me with facts! " Add to this that we live in a culture that does not value responsible skepticism of the info that we are constantly fed--I'm at the point of not believing anything a commercial or politician says. It's way toolikely to be something someone wants you to believe without questioning. Linden Re: Re: Statins: Muscle pain, damage and weakness, Hartke and all in the group.  Suzie! Hi! I have a younger sister named Suzanne so I am already endeared to you. It feels so good to be validated. Not everyone gets quadruple whammed from statins.  Vytorin just knocked me for a loop. When it affected my memory was the worst. I miss my brain the most. I would rather take the sudden, hopefully final heart attack than live with the repercussions of taking Vytorin. My twins are raised, my job as a mom is done. My husband is diabetic & had pretty low cholesterol and they put him on statins. I begged him to not take them. He balked. Until he was getting ready for foot surgery, & he had to go off them; then he could feel what the drug did to him. Why some people suffer more than others is beyond me & the doctors. I feel like we were just one big experiment. It makes me so sad. I will be sad forever until someone, like a lawyer takes a statin and is well enough to take the drug companies to court. Not for $$$ so much as prompting them to acknowledge the damage, have Dr.s do the proper b4 testing so we have a benchmark to analyze the changes & damage, tell people how much CoQ10 they have to take, which my doctor never mentioned, prepare people for what can happen to them. Not just in a casual TV commercial. Some drugs cause people's jaws to come unhinged! Just a casual mention on a TV ad. It is not a casual problem to the person who has to deal with the damage the rest of their life. If I could un-ring a bell I would. How many are suffering in silence, never to be heard? But at least some of my friends now know to call me when they feel the horrible results of statin therapy. So, Suzanne, keep me posted! I pray you a miracle! I need one, too. McClure On Feb 28, 2012, at 11:41 AM, " suzelectrowell " wrote:  Hi , you wrote: " ANKLES WEAKENED, WRISTS, ELBOWS, NECK, HIPS compromised. It interrupts my sleep. Took away my earning power. Took away my body's ability to breathe properly. " Thank you for reminding me of problems I've had when i took statins. Extreme shortness of breath and muscle loss are two things that happened to me. I am not sure if the interrupted sleep is from statins, too, but I quit taking them recently and am taking other things to address the clogged arteries that put me into open heart surgery maybe 12 years ago. I am going to tell my doctor what I have chosen to do after studying the literature out there about statins and other treatments for my health issues - like low thyroid, also. Suzanne in Ohio > > A friend just called who remembered the hell I went through after taking Vytorin. It basically ruined my physical life. It is has been a constant effort at Rehabilitation centers, nutrition research, being pro-active to get myself well. I know people are getting tired of me trying to get the word out. When on FaceBook I always remind people to do their research before putting a statin in their body. I LIKEN IT TO TAKING CYANIDE! It was that destructive to my body! had contacted me some years after reading my post on Web MD, Nov of 2009 I think. I did not PDF THE POST UNFORTUNATELY! This is to let you know I am going to be 60 this year and have never recovered the full use of my upper arms (feels like rotator cuff). I have great difficulty doing anything that involves reaching up. Like getting something out of my closet, picking up babies, changing light bulbs, cleaning the house that involves reaching up above my core or reaching down below my core. I cooked my first full recipe yesterday. It has taken years to become functional. I basically gave up and isolated myself rather than have to explain over and over what did this to me. Statins are like a GATEWAY to your future diseases because it unlocks the key to future illnesses you would not get for 15-20 years in the future. I suddenly got ARTHRITIS IN MY HANDS. BIG CYSTS ON MY PINKY FINGERS THAT REQUIRED SURGERIES. BOTH PINKY FINGERS ARE LAYING DOWN ARTHRITIS deposits very quickly. I collected beads for 25 years thinking i would be doing creative projects after retiring! HA! The joke was on me! > > So if you still have a copy of that Web MD post which they will no longer allow us access to; please copy it and post it to the site. I have a copy, but it is not digital. You had contacted me soon after my post to possibly do an article on my progression of the damage. I lived in Vail, CO, was a downhill skier, climbed mountains, rode bicycles, could do jumping jacks, could cook and clean the house easily. Upon ingestion of the drug all of this was taken from me. I contacted a Vytorin lawyer and they were only taking DEATH AND LIVER FAILURE PATIENTS. Because I didn't take it until I died I am really screwed! The doctors never did any pre-tests that could be used to compare before and after results of what the drug did to me. And am astonished at the damage this drug did to me. > > I am working with a nurse who is helping me lengthen the muscles to improve circulation to the damaged sites. I worked with her on Thursday and we did a class today for 1 1/2 hours. Much to my dismay, this pain and damage is irreversible in me. But I keep trying anything to ease the symptoms. And I am on a CRUSADE TO TELL OTHERS. > > I do ZUMBA now, but cannot jump like the other participants. My feet were totally screwed up by VYTORIN. ANKLES WEAKENED, WRISTS, ELBOWS, NECK, HIPS compromised. It interrupts my sleep. Took away my earning power. Took away my body's ability to breathe properly. You name it; it was affected by the STATINS. I am still angry as heck this was forced upon me. My doctor still calls and tries to get me on the drugs. I refuse. I will not take a chance on losing what has taken about 5 years to regain for the quality of my life. And they are still trying to force this on me. > > And remember, Dr. Bearnice Golumb's video on statins. She was at UCLA. THEY WANT TO PUT STATINS IN THE WATER SYSTEM IN CALIFORNIA so everyone can still eat Mc's!!!! > > Just want to let you know I am still in the game. Please feel free to contact me. McClure > = Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 I went to this link, Barbara, and I can't seem to see it. Do you know what time it will be available? I've been talking to a lot of friends on Facebook about this very subject and would like to share the link with them Thanks, Adele Weingartner To: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Cc: Olson Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 1:18 PM Subject: Re: Re: Statins: Muscle pain, damage and weakness, Hartke and all in the group. Hi Bobby and the rest of the group - I've been told that my interview about statin side effects (featuring a patient who had severe cognitive dysfunction) will be available anywhere, on line this evening at http://www2.turnto10.com/ Barbar , MD ---- Olson wrote: McClure said:"I feel like we were just one big experiment" I have sometimes wondered that too . Then I shrug it off as nonsense. Then I can't help but start wondering again if we were some big experiment for bio-weapons. Looking back at the big picture of statins, none of it ever made sense. There never was any evidence blocking the mevalonate pathway prevented or reversed heart disease. But science knew very well the value of cholesterol in supporting life. Blocking its production would certainly result in major nerve, muscle, and cognitive problems. Science knew the value of cholesterol back in the 60's. So why did they block this important metabolic pathway? What was their ultimate purpose? Was it purely corporate greed playing on the public's acceptance of the lipid hypothesis? Or was it something beyond that? Bobby Alternate email: marooned@... Bobby- Your Caribbean Travel Planner www.pinkystravel.com International Destinations, Resorts, Vacation Packages Philippine Destination Specialist ________________________________ To: "TakingLipitorAndHateIt " <TakingLipitorAndHateIt > Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2012 4:35 PM Subject: Re: Re: Statins: Muscle pain, damage and weakness, Hartke and all in the group. Suzie! Hi! I have a younger sister named Suzanne so I am already endeared to you. It feels so good to be validated. Not everyone gets quadruple whammed from statins. Vytorin just knocked me for a loop. When it affected my memory was the worst. I miss my brain the most. I would rather take the sudden, hopefully final heart attack than live with the repercussions of taking Vytorin. My twins are raised, my job as a mom is done. My husband is diabetic & had pretty low cholesterol and they put him on statins. I begged him to not take them. He balked. Until he was getting ready for foot surgery, & he had to go off them; then he could feel what the drug did to him. Why some people suffer more than others is beyond me & the doctors. I feel like we were just one big experiment. It makes me so sad. I will be sad forever until someone, like a lawyer takes a statin and is well enough to take the drug companies to court. Not for $$$ so much as prompting them to acknowledge the damage, have Dr.s do the proper b4 testing so we have a benchmark to analyze the changes & damage, tell people how much CoQ10 they have to take, which my doctor never mentioned, prepare people for what can happen to them. Not just in a casual TV commercial. Some drugs cause people's jaws to come unhinged! Just a casual mention on a TV ad. It is not a casual problem to the person who has to deal with the damage the rest of their life. If I could un-ring a bell I would. How many are suffering in silence, never to be heard? But at least some of my friends now know to call me when they feel the horrible results of statin therapy. So, Suzanne, keep me posted! I pray you a miracle! I need one, too. McClure >Hi , you wrote: " ANKLES WEAKENED, WRISTS, ELBOWS, NECK, HIPS compromised. It interrupts my sleep. Took away my earning power. Took away my body's ability to breathe properly. " > >Thank you for reminding me of problems I've had when i took statins. Extreme shortness of breath and muscle loss are two things that happened to me. I am not sure if the interrupted sleep is from statins, too, but I quit taking them recently and am taking other things to address the clogged arteries that put me into open heart surgery maybe 12 years ago. I am going to tell my doctor what I have chosen to do after studying the literature out there about statins and other treatments for my health issues - like low thyroid, also. > >Suzanne in Ohio > > >> >> A friend just called who remembered the hell I went through after taking Vytorin. It basically ruined my physical life. It is has been a constant effort at Rehabilitation centers, nutrition research, being pro-active to get myself well. I know people are getting tired of me trying to get the word out. When on FaceBook I always remind people to do their research before putting a statin in their body. I LIKEN IT TO TAKING CYANIDE! It was that destructive to my body! had contacted me some years after reading my post on Web MD, Nov of 2009 I think. I did not PDF THE POST UNFORTUNATELY! This is to let you know I am going to be 60 this year and have never recovered the full use of my upper arms (feels like rotator cuff). I have great difficulty doing anything that involves reaching up. Like getting something out of my closet, picking up babies, changing light bulbs, cleaning the house that involves reaching up above my core or reaching down below my core. I cooked my first full recipe yesterday. It has taken years to become functional. I basically gave up and isolated myself rather than have to explain over and over what did this to me. Statins are like a GATEWAY to your future diseases because it unlocks the key to future illnesses you would not get for 15-20 years in the future. I suddenly got ARTHRITIS IN MY HANDS. BIG CYSTS ON MY PINKY FINGERS THAT REQUIRED SURGERIES. BOTH PINKY FINGERS ARE LAYING DOWN ARTHRITIS deposits very quickly. I collected beads for 25 years thinking i would be doing creative projects after retiring! HA! The joke was on me! >> >> So if you still have a copy of that Web MD post which they will no longer allow us access to; please copy it and post it to the site. I have a copy, but it is not digital. You had contacted me soon after my post to possibly do an article on my progression of the damage. I lived in Vail, CO, was a downhill skier, climbed mountains, rode bicycles, could do jumping jacks, could cook and clean the house easily. Upon ingestion of the drug all of this was taken from me. I contacted a Vytorin lawyer and they were only taking DEATH AND LIVER FAILURE PATIENTS. Because I didn't take it until I died I am really screwed! The doctors never did any pre-tests that could be used to compare before and after results of what the drug did to me. And am astonished at the damage this drug did to me. >> >> I am working with a nurse who is helping me lengthen the muscles to improve circulation to the damaged sites. I worked with her on Thursday and we did a class today for 1 1/2 hours. Much to my dismay, this pain and damage is irreversible in me. But I keep trying anything to ease the symptoms. And I am on a CRUSADE TO TELL OTHERS. >> >> I do ZUMBA now, but cannot jump like the other participants. My feet were totally screwed up by VYTORIN. ANKLES WEAKENED, WRISTS, ELBOWS, NECK, HIPS compromised. It interrupts my sleep. Took away my earning power. Took away my body's ability to breathe properly. You name it; it was affected by the STATINS. I am still angry as heck this was forced upon me. My doctor still calls and tries to get me on the drugs. I refuse. I will not take a chance on losing what has taken about 5 years to regain for the quality of my life. And they are still trying to force this on me. >> >> And remember, Dr. Bearnice Golumb's video on statins. She was at UCLA. THEY WANT TO PUT STATINS IN THE WATER SYSTEM IN CALIFORNIA so everyone can still eat Mc's!!!! >> >> Just want to let you know I am still in the game. Please feel free to contact me. McClure >> >= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 If you go to my Face book page The Truth About Statins you will find a link that takes you directly to the interview. Just log onto FB and plug The Truth about Statins into the search box. Or try that link from my first email again and click the Health button. It may not have been working until this morning. BarbaraSent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerrySender: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 18:25:04 -0700 (PDT)To: TakingLipitorAndHateIt <TakingLipitorAndHateIt >ReplyTo: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Subject: Re: Re: Statins: Muscle pain, damage and weakness, Hartke and all in the group. I went to this link, Barbara, and I can't seem to see it. Do you know what time it will be available? I've been talking to a lot of friends on Facebook about this very subject and would like to share the link with them Thanks, Adele Weingartner To: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Cc: Olson Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 1:18 PM Subject: Re: Re: Statins: Muscle pain, damage and weakness, Hartke and all in the group. Hi Bobby and the rest of the group - I've been told that my interview about statin side effects (featuring a patient who had severe cognitive dysfunction) will be available anywhere, on line this evening at http://www2.turnto10.com/ Barbar , MD---- Olson wrote: McClure said:"I feel like we were just one big experiment"I have sometimes wondered that too . Then I shrug it off as nonsense. Then I can't help but start wondering again if we were some big experiment for bio-weapons. Looking back at the big picture of statins, none of it ever made sense. There never was any evidence blocking the mevalonate pathway prevented or reversed heart disease. But science knew very well the value of cholesterol in supporting life. Blocking its production would certainly result in major nerve, muscle, and cognitive problems. Science knew the value of cholesterol back in the 60's. So why did they block this important metabolic pathway? What was their ultimate purpose? Was it purely corporate greed playing on the public's acceptance of the lipid hypothesis? Or was it something beyond that?Bobby Alternate email: marooned@...Bobby- Your Caribbean Travel Plannerwww.pinkystravel.com International Destinations, Resorts, Vacation PackagesPhilippine Destination Specialist________________________________To: "TakingLipitorAndHateIt " <TakingLipitorAndHateIt > Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2012 4:35 PMSubject: Re: Re: Statins: Muscle pain, damage and weakness, Hartke and all in the group. Suzie! Hi! I have a younger sister named Suzanne so I am already endeared to you. It feels so good to be validated. Not everyone gets quadruple whammed from statins. Vytorin just knocked me for a loop. When it affected my memory was the worst. I miss my brain the most. I would rather take the sudden, hopefully final heart attack than live with the repercussions of taking Vytorin. My twins are raised, my job as a mom is done. My husband is diabetic & had pretty low cholesterol and they put him on statins. I begged him to not take them. He balked. Until he was getting ready for foot surgery, & he had to go off them; then he could feel what the drug did to him. Why some people suffer more than others is beyond me & the doctors. I feel like we were just one big experiment. It makes me so sad. I will be sad forever until someone, like a lawyer takes a statin and is well enough to take the drug companies to court. Not for $$$ so much asprompting them toacknowledge the damage, have Dr.s do the proper b4 testing so we have a benchmark to analyze the changes & damage, tell people how much CoQ10 they have to take, which my doctor never mentioned, prepare people for what can happen to them. Not just in a casual TV commercial. Some drugs cause people's jaws to come unhinged! Just a casual mention on a TV ad. It is not a casual problem to the person who has to deal with the damage the rest of their life. If I could un-ring a bell I would. How many are suffering in silence, never to be heard? But at least some of my friends now know to call me when they feel the horrible results of statin therapy. So, Suzanne, keep me posted! I pray you a miracle! I need one, too. McClure >Hi , you wrote: " ANKLES WEAKENED, WRISTS, ELBOWS, NECK, HIPS compromised. It interrupts my sleep. Took away my earning power. Took away my body's ability to breathe properly. ">>Thank you for reminding me of problems I've had when i took statins. Extreme shortness of breath and muscle loss are two things that happened to me. I am not sure if the interrupted sleep is from statins, too, but I quit taking them recently and am taking other things to address the clogged arteries that put me into open heart surgery maybe 12 years ago. I am going to tell my doctor what I have chosen to do after studying the literature out there about statins and other treatments for my health issues - like low thyroid, also.>>Suzanne in Ohio>>>>>> A friend just called who remembered the hell I went through after taking Vytorin. It basically ruined my physical life. It is has been a constant effort at Rehabilitation centers, nutrition research, being pro-active to get myself well. I know people are getting tired of me trying to get the word out. When on FaceBook I always remind people to do their research before putting a statin in their body. I LIKEN IT TO TAKING CYANIDE! It was that destructive to my body! had contacted me some years after reading my post on Web MD, Nov of 2009 I think. I did not PDF THE POST UNFORTUNATELY! This is to let you know I am going to be 60 this year and have never recovered the full use of my upper arms (feels like rotator cuff). I have great difficulty doing anything that involves reaching up. Like getting something out of my closet, picking up babies, changing light bulbs, cleaning the house that involves reaching up above my core or reachingdownbelow my core. I cooked my first full recipe yesterday. It has taken years to become functional. I basically gave up and isolated myself rather than have to explain over and over what did this to me. Statins are like a GATEWAY to your future diseases because it unlocks the key to future illnesses you would not get for 15-20 years in the future. I suddenly got ARTHRITIS IN MY HANDS. BIG CYSTS ON MY PINKY FINGERS THAT REQUIRED SURGERIES. BOTH PINKY FINGERS ARE LAYING DOWN ARTHRITIS deposits very quickly. I collected beads for 25 years thinking i would be doing creative projects after retiring! HA! The joke was on me! >> >> So if you still have a copy of that Web MD post which they will no longer allow us access to; please copy it and post it to the site. I have a copy, but it is not digital. You had contacted me soon after my post to possibly do an article on my progression of the damage. I lived in Vail, CO, was a downhill skier, climbed mountains, rode bicycles, could do jumping jacks, could cook and clean the house easily. Upon ingestion of the drug all of this was taken from me. I contacted a Vytorin lawyer and they were only taking DEATH AND LIVER FAILURE PATIENTS. Because I didn't take it until I died I am really screwed! The doctors never did any pre-tests that could be used to compare before and after results of what the drug did to me. And am astonished at the damage this drug did to me. >> >> I am working with a nurse who is helping me lengthen the muscles to improve circulation to the damaged sites. I worked with her on Thursday and we did a class today for 1 1/2 hours. Much to my dismay, this pain and damage is irreversible in me. But I keep trying anything to ease the symptoms. And I am on a CRUSADE TO TELL OTHERS. >> >> I do ZUMBA now, but cannot jump like the other participants. My feet were totally screwed up by VYTORIN. ANKLES WEAKENED, WRISTS, ELBOWS, NECK, HIPS compromised. It interrupts my sleep. Took away my earning power. Took away my body's ability to breathe properly. You name it; it was affected by the STATINS. I am still angry as heck this was forced upon me. My doctor still calls and tries to get me on the drugs. I refuse. I will not take a chance on losing what has taken about 5 years to regain for the quality of my life. And they are still trying to force this on me.>> >> And remember, Dr. Bearnice Golumb's video on statins. She was at UCLA. THEY WANT TO PUT STATINS IN THE WATER SYSTEM IN CALIFORNIA so everyone can still eat Mc's!!!!>> >> Just want to let you know I am still in the game. Please feel free to contact me. McClure>>>= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 Hi again Adele - I just emailed the direct link to you. Thank you for sharing. Barbara ---- Adele Weingartner wrote: I went to this link, Barbara, and I can't seem to see it. Do you know what time it will be available? I've been talking to a lot of friends on Facebook about this very subject and would like to share the link with them Thanks, Adele Weingartner ________________________________ To: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Cc: Olson Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 1:18 PM Subject: Re: Re: Statins: Muscle pain, damage and weakness, Hartke and all in the group.  Hi Bobby and the rest of the group - I've been told that my interview about statin side effects (featuring a patient who had severe cognitive dysfunction) will be available anywhere, on line this evening at http://www2.turnto10.com/ Barbar , MD ---- Olson wrote: McClure said: " I feel like we were just one big experiment " I have sometimes wondered that too . Then I shrug it off as nonsense. Then I can't help but start wondering again if we were some big experiment for bio-weapons. Looking back at the big picture of statins, none of it ever made sense. There never was any evidence blocking the mevalonate pathway prevented or reversed heart disease. But science knew very well the value of cholesterol in supporting life. Blocking its production would certainly result in major nerve, muscle, and cognitive problems. Science knew the value of cholesterol back in the 60's. So why did they block this important metabolic pathway?  What was their ultimate purpose? Was it purely corporate greed playing on the public's acceptance of the lipid hypothesis? Or was it something beyond that? Bobby  Alternate email:  marooned@... Bobby- Your Caribbean Travel Planner www.pinkystravel.com   International Destinations, Resorts, Vacation Packages Philippine Destination Specialist ________________________________ To: " TakingLipitorAndHateIt " <TakingLipitorAndHateIt > Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2012 4:35 PM Subject: Re: Re: Statins: Muscle pain, damage and weakness, Hartke and all in the group.  Suzie! Hi! I have a younger sister named Suzanne so I am already endeared to you. It feels so good to be validated. Not everyone gets quadruple whammed from statins.  Vytorin just knocked me for a loop. When it affected my memory was the worst. I miss my brain the most. I would rather take the sudden, hopefully final heart attack than live with the repercussions of taking Vytorin. My twins are raised, my job as a mom is done. My husband is diabetic & had pretty low cholesterol and they put him on statins. I begged him to not take them. He balked. Until he was getting ready for foot surgery, & he had to go off them; then he could feel what the drug did to him. Why some people suffer more than others is beyond me & the doctors. I feel like we were just one big experiment. It makes me so sad. I will be sad forever until someone, like a lawyer takes a statin and is well enough to take the drug companies to court. Not for $$$ so much as prompting them to acknowledge the damage, have Dr.s do the proper b4 testing so we have a benchmark to analyze the changes & damage, tell people how much CoQ10 they have to take, which my doctor never mentioned, prepare people for what can happen to them. Not just in a casual TV commercial. Some drugs cause people's jaws to come unhinged! Just a casual mention on a TV ad. It is not a casual problem to the person who has to deal with the damage the rest of their life. If I could un-ring a bell I would. How many are suffering in silence, never to be heard? But at least some of my friends now know to call me when they feel the horrible results of statin therapy. So, Suzanne, keep me posted! I pray you a miracle! I need one, too. McClure  >Hi , you wrote: " ANKLES WEAKENED, WRISTS, ELBOWS, NECK, HIPS compromised. It interrupts my sleep. Took away my earning power. Took away my body's ability to breathe properly. " > >Thank you for reminding me of problems I've had when i took statins. Extreme shortness of breath and muscle loss are two things that happened to me. I am not sure if the interrupted sleep is from statins, too, but I quit taking them recently and am taking other things to address the clogged arteries that put me into open heart surgery maybe 12 years ago. I am going to tell my doctor what I have chosen to do after studying the literature out there about statins and other treatments for my health issues - like low thyroid, also. > >Suzanne in Ohio > > >> >> A friend just called who remembered the hell I went through after taking Vytorin. It basically ruined my physical life. It is has been a constant effort at Rehabilitation centers, nutrition research, being pro-active to get myself well. I know people are getting tired of me trying to get the word out. When on FaceBook I always remind people to do their research before putting a statin in their body. I LIKEN IT TO TAKING CYANIDE! It was that destructive to my body! had contacted me some years after reading my post on Web MD, Nov of 2009 I think. I did not PDF THE POST UNFORTUNATELY! This is to let you know I am going to be 60 this year and have never recovered the full use of my upper arms (feels like rotator cuff). I have great difficulty doing anything that involves reaching up. Like getting something out of my closet, picking up babies, changing light bulbs, cleaning the house that involves reaching up above my core or reaching down below my core. I cooked my first full recipe yesterday. It has taken years to become functional. I basically gave up and isolated myself rather than have to explain over and over what did this to me. Statins are like a GATEWAY to your future diseases because it unlocks the key to future illnesses you would not get for 15-20 years in the future. I suddenly got ARTHRITIS IN MY HANDS. BIG CYSTS ON MY PINKY FINGERS THAT REQUIRED SURGERIES. BOTH PINKY FINGERS ARE LAYING DOWN ARTHRITIS deposits very quickly. I collected beads for 25 years thinking i would be doing creative projects after retiring! HA! The joke was on me! >> >> So if you still have a copy of that Web MD post which they will no longer allow us access to; please copy it and post it to the site. I have a copy, but it is not digital. You had contacted me soon after my post to possibly do an article on my progression of the damage. I lived in Vail, CO, was a downhill skier, climbed mountains, rode bicycles, could do jumping jacks, could cook and clean the house easily. Upon ingestion of the drug all of this was taken from me. I contacted a Vytorin lawyer and they were only taking DEATH AND LIVER FAILURE PATIENTS. Because I didn't take it until I died I am really screwed! The doctors never did any pre-tests that could be used to compare before and after results of what the drug did to me. And am astonished at the damage this drug did to me. >> >> I am working with a nurse who is helping me lengthen the muscles to improve circulation to the damaged sites. I worked with her on Thursday and we did a class today for 1 1/2 hours. Much to my dismay, this pain and damage is irreversible in me. But I keep trying anything to ease the symptoms. And I am on a CRUSADE TO TELL OTHERS. >> >> I do ZUMBA now, but cannot jump like the other participants. My feet were totally screwed up by VYTORIN. ANKLES WEAKENED, WRISTS, ELBOWS, NECK, HIPS compromised. It interrupts my sleep. Took away my earning power. Took away my body's ability to breathe properly. You name it; it was affected by the STATINS. I am still angry as heck this was forced upon me. My doctor still calls and tries to get me on the drugs. I refuse. I will not take a chance on losing what has taken about 5 years to regain for the quality of my life. And they are still trying to force this on me. >> >> And remember, Dr. Bearnice Golumb's video on statins. She was at UCLA. THEY WANT TO PUT STATINS IN THE WATER SYSTEM IN CALIFORNIA so everyone can still eat Mc's!!!! >> >> Just want to let you know I am still in the game. Please feel free to contact me. McClure >> >= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 absolutely brilliant Barbara - well done! Pamela SP UK > >> > >> A friend just called who remembered the hell I went through after taking Vytorin. It basically ruined my physical life. It is has been a constant effort at Rehabilitation centers, nutrition research, being pro-active to get myself well. I know people are getting tired of me trying to get the word out. When on FaceBook I always remind people to do their research before putting a statin in their body. I LIKEN IT TO TAKING CYANIDE! It was that destructive to my body! had contacted me some years after reading my post on Web MD, Nov of 2009 I think. I did not PDF THE POST UNFORTUNATELY! This is to let you know I am going to be 60 this year and have never recovered the full use of my upper arms (feels like rotator cuff). I have great difficulty doing anything that involves reaching up. Like getting something out of my closet, picking up babies, changing light bulbs, cleaning the house that involves reaching up above my core or reaching down > below my core. I cooked my first full recipe yesterday. It has taken years to become functional. I basically gave up and isolated myself rather than have to explain over and over what did this to me. Statins are like a GATEWAY to your future diseases because it unlocks the key to future illnesses you would not get for 15-20 years in the future. I suddenly got ARTHRITIS IN MY HANDS. BIG CYSTS ON MY PINKY FINGERS THAT REQUIRED SURGERIES. BOTH PINKY FINGERS ARE LAYING DOWN ARTHRITIS deposits very quickly. I collected beads for 25 years thinking i would be doing creative projects after retiring! HA! The joke was on me! > >> > >> So if you still have a copy of that Web MD post which they will no longer allow us access to; please copy it and post it to the site. I have a copy, but it is not digital. You had contacted me soon after my post to possibly do an article on my progression of the damage. I lived in Vail, CO, was a downhill skier, climbed mountains, rode bicycles, could do jumping jacks, could cook and clean the house easily. Upon ingestion of the drug all of this was taken from me. I contacted a Vytorin lawyer and they were only taking DEATH AND LIVER FAILURE PATIENTS. Because I didn't take it until I died I am really screwed! The doctors never did any pre-tests that could be used to compare before and after results of what the drug did to me. And am astonished at the damage this drug did to me. > >> > >> I am working with a nurse who is helping me lengthen the muscles to improve circulation to the damaged sites. I worked with her on Thursday and we did a class today for 1 1/2 hours. Much to my dismay, this pain and damage is irreversible in me. But I keep trying anything to ease the symptoms. And I am on a CRUSADE TO TELL OTHERS. > >> > >> I do ZUMBA now, but cannot jump like the other participants. My feet were totally screwed up by VYTORIN. ANKLES WEAKENED, WRISTS, ELBOWS, NECK, HIPS compromised. It interrupts my sleep. Took away my earning power. Took away my body's ability to breathe properly. You name it; it was affected by the STATINS. I am still angry as heck this was forced upon me. My doctor still calls and tries to get me on the drugs. I refuse. I will not take a chance on losing what has taken about 5 years to regain for the quality of my life. And they are still trying to force this on me. > >> > >> And remember, Dr. Bearnice Golumb's video on statins. She was at UCLA. THEY WANT TO PUT STATINS IN THE WATER SYSTEM IN CALIFORNIA so everyone can still eat Mc's!!!! > >> > >> Just want to let you know I am still in the game. Please feel free to contact me. McClure > >> > >= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 Saw the news report with Barbara . Excellent! I have to say Barbara, you couldn't have asked for better timing of the the FDA warnings issued, with the upcoming release of your book.Bobby Alternate email: marooned@...Bobby- Your Caribbean Travel Plannerwww.pinkystravel.com International Destinations, Resorts, Vacation PackagesPhilippine Destination Specialist To: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 4:22 AM Subject: Re: Re: Statins: Muscle pain, damage and weakness, Hartke and all in the group. If you go to my Face book page The Truth About Statins you will find a link that takes you directly to the interview. Just log onto FB and plug The Truth about Statins into the search box. Or try that link from my first email again and click the Health button. It may not have been working until this morning. BarbaraSent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Sender: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 18:25:04 -0700 (PDT)To: TakingLipitorAndHateIt <TakingLipitorAndHateIt >ReplyTo: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Subject: Re: Re: Statins: Muscle pain, damage and weakness, Hartke and all in the group. I went to this link, Barbara, and I can't seem to see it. Do you know what time it will be available? I've been talking to a lot of friends on Facebook about this very subject and would like to share the link with them Thanks, Adele Weingartner To: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Cc: Olson Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 1:18 PM Subject: Re: Re: Statins: Muscle pain, damage and weakness, Hartke and all in the group. Hi Bobby and the rest of the group - I've been told that my interview about statin side effects (featuring a patient who had severe cognitive dysfunction) will be available anywhere, on line this evening at http://www2.turnto10.com/ Barbar , MD ---- Olson wrote: McClure said:"I feel like we were just one big experiment" I have sometimes wondered that too . Then I shrug it off as nonsense. Then I can't help but start wondering again if we were some big experiment for bio-weapons. Looking back at the big picture of statins, none of it ever made sense. There never was any evidence blocking the mevalonate pathway prevented or reversed heart disease. But science knew very well the value of cholesterol in supporting life. Blocking its production would certainly result in major nerve, muscle, and cognitive problems. Science knew the value of cholesterol back in the 60's. So why did they block this important metabolic pathway? What was their ultimate purpose? Was it purely corporate greed playing on the public's acceptance of the lipid hypothesis? Or was it something beyond that? Bobby Alternate email: marooned@... Bobby- Your Caribbean Travel Planner www.pinkystravel.com International Destinations, Resorts, Vacation Packages Philippine Destination Specialist ________________________________ To: "TakingLipitorAndHateIt " <TakingLipitorAndHateIt > Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2012 4:35 PM Subject: Re: Re: Statins: Muscle pain, damage and weakness, Hartke and all in the group. Suzie! Hi! I have a younger sister named Suzanne so I am already endeared to you. It feels so good to be validated. Not everyone gets quadruple whammed from statins. Vytorin just knocked me for a loop. When it affected my memory was the worst. I miss my brain the most. I would rather take the sudden, hopefully final heart attack than live with the repercussions of taking Vytorin. My twins are raised, my job as a mom is done. My husband is diabetic & had pretty low cholesterol and they put him on statins. I begged him to not take them. He balked. Until he was getting ready for foot surgery, & he had to go off them; then he could feel what the drug did to him. Why some people suffer more than others is beyond me & the doctors. I feel like we were just one big experiment. It makes me so sad. I will be sad forever until someone, like a lawyer takes a statin and is well enough to take the drug companies to court. Not for $$$ so much as prompting them to acknowledge the damage, have Dr.s do the proper b4 testing so we have a benchmark to analyze the changes & damage, tell people how much CoQ10 they have to take, which my doctor never mentioned, prepare people for what can happen to them. Not just in a casual TV commercial. Some drugs cause people's jaws to come unhinged! Just a casual mention on a TV ad. It is not a casual problem to the person who has to deal with the damage the rest of their life. If I could un-ring a bell I would. How many are suffering in silence, never to be heard? But at least some of my friends now know to call me when they feel the horrible results of statin therapy. So, Suzanne, keep me posted! I pray you a miracle! I need one, too. McClure >Hi , you wrote: " ANKLES WEAKENED, WRISTS, ELBOWS, NECK, HIPS compromised. It interrupts my sleep. Took away my earning power. Took away my body's ability to breathe properly. " > >Thank you for reminding me of problems I've had when i took statins. Extreme shortness of breath and muscle loss are two things that happened to me. I am not sure if the interrupted sleep is from statins, too, but I quit taking them recently and am taking other things to address the clogged arteries that put me into open heart surgery maybe 12 years ago. I am going to tell my doctor what I have chosen to do after studying the literature out there about statins and other treatments for my health issues - like low thyroid, also. > >Suzanne in Ohio > > >> >> A friend just called who remembered the hell I went through after taking Vytorin. It basically ruined my physical life. It is has been a constant effort at Rehabilitation centers, nutrition research, being pro-active to get myself well. I know people are getting tired of me trying to get the word out. When on FaceBook I always remind people to do their research before putting a statin in their body. I LIKEN IT TO TAKING CYANIDE! It was that destructive to my body! had contacted me some years after reading my post on Web MD, Nov of 2009 I think. I did not PDF THE POST UNFORTUNATELY! This is to let you know I am going to be 60 this year and have never recovered the full use of my upper arms (feels like rotator cuff). I have great difficulty doing anything that involves reaching up. Like getting something out of my closet, picking up babies, changing light bulbs, cleaning the house that involves reaching up above my core or reaching down below my core. I cooked my first full recipe yesterday. It has taken years to become functional. I basically gave up and isolated myself rather than have to explain over and over what did this to me. Statins are like a GATEWAY to your future diseases because it unlocks the key to future illnesses you would not get for 15-20 years in the future. I suddenly got ARTHRITIS IN MY HANDS. BIG CYSTS ON MY PINKY FINGERS THAT REQUIRED SURGERIES. BOTH PINKY FINGERS ARE LAYING DOWN ARTHRITIS deposits very quickly. I collected beads for 25 years thinking i would be doing creative projects after retiring! HA! The joke was on me! >> >> So if you still have a copy of that Web MD post which they will no longer allow us access to; please copy it and post it to the site. I have a copy, but it is not digital. You had contacted me soon after my post to possibly do an article on my progression of the damage. I lived in Vail, CO, was a downhill skier, climbed mountains, rode bicycles, could do jumping jacks, could cook and clean the house easily. Upon ingestion of the drug all of this was taken from me. I contacted a Vytorin lawyer and they were only taking DEATH AND LIVER FAILURE PATIENTS. Because I didn't take it until I died I am really screwed! The doctors never did any pre-tests that could be used to compare before and after results of what the drug did to me. And am astonished at the damage this drug did to me. >> >> I am working with a nurse who is helping me lengthen the muscles to improve circulation to the damaged sites. I worked with her on Thursday and we did a class today for 1 1/2 hours. Much to my dismay, this pain and damage is irreversible in me. But I keep trying anything to ease the symptoms. And I am on a CRUSADE TO TELL OTHERS. >> >> I do ZUMBA now, but cannot jump like the other participants. My feet were totally screwed up by VYTORIN. ANKLES WEAKENED, WRISTS, ELBOWS, NECK, HIPS compromised. It interrupts my sleep. Took away my earning power. Took away my body's ability to breathe properly. You name it; it was affected by the STATINS. I am still angry as heck this was forced upon me. My doctor still calls and tries to get me on the drugs. I refuse. I will not take a chance on losing what has taken about 5 years to regain for the quality of my life. And they are still trying to force this on me. >> >> And remember, Dr. Bearnice Golumb's video on statins. She was at UCLA. THEY WANT TO PUT STATINS IN THE WATER SYSTEM IN CALIFORNIA so everyone can still eat Mc's!!!! >> >> Just want to let you know I am still in the game. Please feel free to contact me. McClure >> >= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 Very good interview! I posted this on my face book pageSent from my iPhone If you go to my Face book page The Truth About Statins you will find a link that takes you directly to the interview. Just log onto FB and plug The Truth about Statins into the search box. Or try that link from my first email again and click the Health button. It may not have been working until this morning. BarbaraSent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Sender: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 18:25:04 -0700 (PDT)To: TakingLipitorAndHateIt <TakingLipitorAndHateIt >ReplyTo: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Subject: Re: Re: Statins: Muscle pain, damage and weakness, Hartke and all in the group. I went to this link, Barbara, and I can't seem to see it. Do you know what time it will be available? I've been talking to a lot of friends on Facebook about this very subject and would like to share the link with them Thanks, Adele Weingartner To: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Cc: Olson Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 1:18 PM Subject: Re: Re: Statins: Muscle pain, damage and weakness, Hartke and all in the group. Hi Bobby and the rest of the group - I've been told that my interview about statin side effects (featuring a patient who had severe cognitive dysfunction) will be available anywhere, on line this evening at http://www2.turnto10.com/ Barbar , MD ---- Olson wrote: McClure said:"I feel like we were just one big experiment" I have sometimes wondered that too . Then I shrug it off as nonsense. Then I can't help but start wondering again if we were some big experiment for bio-weapons. Looking back at the big picture of statins, none of it ever made sense. There never was any evidence blocking the mevalonate pathway prevented or reversed heart disease. But science knew very well the value of cholesterol in supporting life. Blocking its production would certainly result in major nerve, muscle, and cognitive problems. Science knew the value of cholesterol back in the 60's. So why did they block this important metabolic pathway? What was their ultimate purpose? Was it purely corporate greed playing on the public's acceptance of the lipid hypothesis? Or was it something beyond that? Bobby Alternate email: marooned@... Bobby- Your Caribbean Travel Planner www.pinkystravel.com International Destinations, Resorts, Vacation Packages Philippine Destination Specialist ________________________________ To: "TakingLipitorAndHateIt " <TakingLipitorAndHateIt > Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2012 4:35 PM Subject: Re: Re: Statins: Muscle pain, damage and weakness, Hartke and all in the group. Suzie! Hi! I have a younger sister named Suzanne so I am already endeared to you. It feels so good to be validated. Not everyone gets quadruple whammed from statins. Vytorin just knocked me for a loop. When it affected my memory was the worst. I miss my brain the most. I would rather take the sudden, hopefully final heart attack than live with the repercussions of taking Vytorin. My twins are raised, my job as a mom is done. My husband is diabetic & had pretty low cholesterol and they put him on statins. I begged him to not take them. He balked. Until he was getting ready for foot surgery, & he had to go off them; then he could feel what the drug did to him. Why some people suffer more than others is beyond me & the doctors. I feel like we were just one big experiment. It makes me so sad. I will be sad forever until someone, like a lawyer takes a statin and is well enough to take the drug companies to court. Not for $$$ so much as prompting them to acknowledge the damage, have Dr.s do the proper b4 testing so we have a benchmark to analyze the changes & damage, tell people how much CoQ10 they have to take, which my doctor never mentioned, prepare people for what can happen to them. Not just in a casual TV commercial. Some drugs cause people's jaws to come unhinged! Just a casual mention on a TV ad. It is not a casual problem to the person who has to deal with the damage the rest of their life. If I could un-ring a bell I would. How many are suffering in silence, never to be heard? But at least some of my friends now know to call me when they feel the horrible results of statin therapy. So, Suzanne, keep me posted! I pray you a miracle! I need one, too. McClure >Hi , you wrote: " ANKLES WEAKENED, WRISTS, ELBOWS, NECK, HIPS compromised. It interrupts my sleep. Took away my earning power. Took away my body's ability to breathe properly. " > >Thank you for reminding me of problems I've had when i took statins. Extreme shortness of breath and muscle loss are two things that happened to me. I am not sure if the interrupted sleep is from statins, too, but I quit taking them recently and am taking other things to address the clogged arteries that put me into open heart surgery maybe 12 years ago. I am going to tell my doctor what I have chosen to do after studying the literature out there about statins and other treatments for my health issues - like low thyroid, also. > >Suzanne in Ohio > > >> >> A friend just called who remembered the hell I went through after taking Vytorin. It basically ruined my physical life. It is has been a constant effort at Rehabilitation centers, nutrition research, being pro-active to get myself well. I know people are getting tired of me trying to get the word out. When on FaceBook I always remind people to do their research before putting a statin in their body. I LIKEN IT TO TAKING CYANIDE! It was that destructive to my body! had contacted me some years after reading my post on Web MD, Nov of 2009 I think. I did not PDF THE POST UNFORTUNATELY! This is to let you know I am going to be 60 this year and have never recovered the full use of my upper arms (feels like rotator cuff). I have great difficulty doing anything that involves reaching up. Like getting something out of my closet, picking up babies, changing light bulbs, cleaning the house that involves reaching up above my core or reaching down below my core. I cooked my first full recipe yesterday. It has taken years to become functional. I basically gave up and isolated myself rather than have to explain over and over what did this to me. Statins are like a GATEWAY to your future diseases because it unlocks the key to future illnesses you would not get for 15-20 years in the future. I suddenly got ARTHRITIS IN MY HANDS. BIG CYSTS ON MY PINKY FINGERS THAT REQUIRED SURGERIES. BOTH PINKY FINGERS ARE LAYING DOWN ARTHRITIS deposits very quickly. I collected beads for 25 years thinking i would be doing creative projects after retiring! HA! The joke was on me! >> >> So if you still have a copy of that Web MD post which they will no longer allow us access to; please copy it and post it to the site. I have a copy, but it is not digital. You had contacted me soon after my post to possibly do an article on my progression of the damage. I lived in Vail, CO, was a downhill skier, climbed mountains, rode bicycles, could do jumping jacks, could cook and clean the house easily. Upon ingestion of the drug all of this was taken from me. I contacted a Vytorin lawyer and they were only taking DEATH AND LIVER FAILURE PATIENTS. Because I didn't take it until I died I am really screwed! The doctors never did any pre-tests that could be used to compare before and after results of what the drug did to me. And am astonished at the damage this drug did to me. >> >> I am working with a nurse who is helping me lengthen the muscles to improve circulation to the damaged sites. I worked with her on Thursday and we did a class today for 1 1/2 hours. Much to my dismay, this pain and damage is irreversible in me. But I keep trying anything to ease the symptoms. And I am on a CRUSADE TO TELL OTHERS. >> >> I do ZUMBA now, but cannot jump like the other participants. My feet were totally screwed up by VYTORIN. ANKLES WEAKENED, WRISTS, ELBOWS, NECK, HIPS compromised. It interrupts my sleep. Took away my earning power. Took away my body's ability to breathe properly. You name it; it was affected by the STATINS. I am still angry as heck this was forced upon me. My doctor still calls and tries to get me on the drugs. I refuse. I will not take a chance on losing what has taken about 5 years to regain for the quality of my life. And they are still trying to force this on me. >> >> And remember, Dr. Bearnice Golumb's video on statins. She was at UCLA. THEY WANT TO PUT STATINS IN THE WATER SYSTEM IN CALIFORNIA so everyone can still eat Mc's!!!! >> >> Just want to let you know I am still in the game. Please feel free to contact me. McClure >> >= Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (23) Recent Activity: New Members 1 Visit Your Group Switch to: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 I'm thanking my lucky stars!BarbaraSent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerrySender: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:37:15 -0700 (PDT)To: TakingLipitorAndHateIt <TakingLipitorAndHateIt >ReplyTo: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Subject: Re: Re: Statins: Muscle pain, damage and weakness, Hartke and all in the group. Saw the news report with Barbara . Excellent! I have to say Barbara, you couldn't have asked for better timing of the the FDA warnings issued, with the upcoming release of your book.Bobby Alternate email: marooned@...Bobby- Your Caribbean Travel Plannerwww.pinkystravel.com International Destinations, Resorts, Vacation PackagesPhilippine Destination Specialist To: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 4:22 AM Subject: Re: Re: Statins: Muscle pain, damage and weakness, Hartke and all in the group. If you go to my Face book page The Truth About Statins you will find a link that takes you directly to the interview. Just log onto FB and plug The Truth about Statins into the search box. Or try that link from my first email again and click the Health button. It may not have been working until this morning. BarbaraSent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerrySender: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 18:25:04 -0700 (PDT)To: TakingLipitorAndHateIt <TakingLipitorAndHateIt >ReplyTo: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Subject: Re: Re: Statins: Muscle pain, damage and weakness, Hartke and all in the group. I went to this link, Barbara, and I can't seem to see it. Do you know what time it will be available? I've been talking to a lot of friends on Facebook about this very subject and would like to share the link with them Thanks, Adele Weingartner To: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Cc: Olson Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 1:18 PM Subject: Re: Re: Statins: Muscle pain, damage and weakness, Hartke and all in the group. Hi Bobby and the rest of the group - I've been told that my interview about statin side effects (featuring a patient who had severe cognitive dysfunction) will be available anywhere, on line this evening at http://www2.turnto10.com/ Barbar , MD---- Olson wrote: McClure said:"I feel like we were just one big experiment"I have sometimes wondered that too . Then I shrug it off as nonsense. Then I can't help but start wondering again if we were some big experiment for bio-weapons. Looking back at the big picture of statins, none of it ever made sense. There never was any evidence blocking the mevalonate pathway prevented or reversed heart disease. But science knew very well the value of cholesterol in supporting life. Blocking its production would certainly result in major nerve, muscle, and cognitive problems. Science knew the value of cholesterol back in the 60's. So why did they block this important metabolic pathway? What was their ultimate purpose? Was it purely corporate greed playing on the public's acceptance of the lipid hypothesis? Or was it something beyond that?Bobby Alternate email: marooned@...Bobby- Your Caribbean Travel Plannerwww.pinkystravel.com International Destinations, Resorts, Vacation PackagesPhilippine Destination Specialist________________________________To: "TakingLipitorAndHateIt " <TakingLipitorAndHateIt > Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2012 4:35 PMSubject: Re: Re: Statins: Muscle pain, damage and weakness, Hartke and all in the group. Suzie! Hi! I have a younger sister named Suzanne so I am already endeared to you. It feels so good to be validated. Not everyone gets quadruple whammed from statins. Vytorin just knocked me for a loop. When it affected my memory was the worst. I miss my brain the most. I would rather take the sudden, hopefully final heart attack than live with the repercussions of taking Vytorin. My twins are raised, my job as a mom is done. My husband is diabetic & had pretty low cholesterol and they put him on statins. I begged him to not take them. He balked. Until he was getting ready for foot surgery, & he had to go off them; then he could feel what the drug did to him. Why some people suffer more than others is beyond me & the doctors. I feel like we were just one big experiment. It makes me so sad. I will be sad forever until someone, like a lawyer takes a statin and is well enough to take the drug companies to court. Not for $$$ so much asprompting them toacknowledge the damage, have Dr.s do the proper b4 testing so we have a benchmark to analyze the changes & damage, tell people how much CoQ10 they have to take, which my doctor never mentioned, prepare people for what can happen to them. Not just in a casual TV commercial. Some drugs cause people's jaws to come unhinged! Just a casual mention on a TV ad. It is not a casual problem to the person who has to deal with the damage the rest of their life. If I could un-ring a bell I would. How many are suffering in silence, never to be heard? But at least some of my friends now know to call me when they feel the horrible results of statin therapy. So, Suzanne, keep me posted! I pray you a miracle! I need one, too. McClure >Hi , you wrote: " ANKLES WEAKENED, WRISTS, ELBOWS, NECK, HIPS compromised. It interrupts my sleep. Took away my earning power. Took away my body's ability to breathe properly. ">>Thank you for reminding me of problems I've had when i took statins. Extreme shortness of breath and muscle loss are two things that happened to me. I am not sure if the interrupted sleep is from statins, too, but I quit taking them recently and am taking other things to address the clogged arteries that put me into open heart surgery maybe 12 years ago. I am going to tell my doctor what I have chosen to do after studying the literature out there about statins and other treatments for my health issues - like low thyroid, also.>>Suzanne in Ohio>>>>>> A friend just called who remembered the hell I went through after taking Vytorin. It basically ruined my physical life. It is has been a constant effort at Rehabilitation centers, nutrition research, being pro-active to get myself well. I know people are getting tired of me trying to get the word out. When on FaceBook I always remind people to do their research before putting a statin in their body. I LIKEN IT TO TAKING CYANIDE! It was that destructive to my body! had contacted me some years after reading my post on Web MD, Nov of 2009 I think. I did not PDF THE POST UNFORTUNATELY! This is to let you know I am going to be 60 this year and have never recovered the full use of my upper arms (feels like rotator cuff). I have great difficulty doing anything that involves reaching up. Like getting something out of my closet, picking up babies, changing light bulbs, cleaning the house that involves reaching up above my core or reachingdownbelow my core. I cooked my first full recipe yesterday. It has taken years to become functional. I basically gave up and isolated myself rather than have to explain over and over what did this to me. Statins are like a GATEWAY to your future diseases because it unlocks the key to future illnesses you would not get for 15-20 years in the future. I suddenly got ARTHRITIS IN MY HANDS. BIG CYSTS ON MY PINKY FINGERS THAT REQUIRED SURGERIES. BOTH PINKY FINGERS ARE LAYING DOWN ARTHRITIS deposits very quickly. I collected beads for 25 years thinking i would be doing creative projects after retiring! HA! The joke was on me! >> >> So if you still have a copy of that Web MD post which they will no longer allow us access to; please copy it and post it to the site. I have a copy, but it is not digital. You had contacted me soon after my post to possibly do an article on my progression of the damage. I lived in Vail, CO, was a downhill skier, climbed mountains, rode bicycles, could do jumping jacks, could cook and clean the house easily. Upon ingestion of the drug all of this was taken from me. I contacted a Vytorin lawyer and they were only taking DEATH AND LIVER FAILURE PATIENTS. Because I didn't take it until I died I am really screwed! The doctors never did any pre-tests that could be used to compare before and after results of what the drug did to me. And am astonished at the damage this drug did to me. >> >> I am working with a nurse who is helping me lengthen the muscles to improve circulation to the damaged sites. I worked with her on Thursday and we did a class today for 1 1/2 hours. Much to my dismay, this pain and damage is irreversible in me. But I keep trying anything to ease the symptoms. And I am on a CRUSADE TO TELL OTHERS. >> >> I do ZUMBA now, but cannot jump like the other participants. My feet were totally screwed up by VYTORIN. ANKLES WEAKENED, WRISTS, ELBOWS, NECK, HIPS compromised. It interrupts my sleep. Took away my earning power. Took away my body's ability to breathe properly. You name it; it was affected by the STATINS. I am still angry as heck this was forced upon me. My doctor still calls and tries to get me on the drugs. I refuse. I will not take a chance on losing what has taken about 5 years to regain for the quality of my life. And they are still trying to force this on me.>> >> And remember, Dr. Bearnice Golumb's video on statins. She was at UCLA. THEY WANT TO PUT STATINS IN THE WATER SYSTEM IN CALIFORNIA so everyone can still eat Mc's!!!!>> >> Just want to let you know I am still in the game. Please feel free to contact me. McClure>>>= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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