RE: Statin and muscle damage

[Guest guest]

I am told muscle biopsy takes all the guesswork out. Alternate email: marooned@...Bobby- Your Caribbean Travel Plannerwww.pinkystravel.com International Destinations, Resorts, Vacation PackagesPhilippine Destination SpecialistTo: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 2:18 PMSubject: Statin and muscle damage

Now my rheumatologist is vascillating

whether the Liptor ( took 40 mg for 4 months) is causing the muscle pain

and weakness. I had to remind him just because I don’t have an elevated

CPK it still could be poymyositis. What type Doctor do you see for your

condition. I am using Policosinol for my elevated cholesterol (250+) and

CO-Q-10.

[Guest guest]

I don't see a doctor for my cholesterol. I no longer have it measured. Why do you think a level of "250+" is sufficiently "elevated" as to require lowering? Have you considered your system may actually be producing the level of cholesterol it needs, and that no chemical intervention is required?Dave Turgeon. Now my rheumatologist is vascillating whether the Liptor ( took 40 mg for 4 months) is causing the muscle pain and weakness. I had to remind him just because I don’t have an elevated CPK it still could be poymyositis. What type Doctor do you see for your condition. I am using Policosinol for my elevated cholesterol (250+) and CO-Q-10.

[Guest guest]

Dave, your question is the toughest for patient to answer, due to the constant badgering by MD’s, yet there is a world of information, such as this site, that can be used to develop an understanding of the issues. Insisting on comprehensive testing to determine that all systems are functioning within range is a good start to building a position that can be used to “just say no to statins”.Mike From: TakingLipitorAndHateIt [mailto:TakingLipitorAndHateIt ] On Behalf Of davidturgeonSent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 8:11 PMTo: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Cc: davidturgeonSubject: Re: Statin and muscle damage I don't see a doctor for my cholesterol. I no longer have it measured. Why do you think a level of " 250+ " is sufficiently " elevated " as to require lowering? Have you considered your system may actually be producing the level of cholesterol it needs, and that no chemical intervention is required? Dave Turgeon. Now my rheumatologist is vascillating whether the Liptor ( took 40 mg for 4 months) is causing the muscle pain and weakness. I had to remind him just because I don’t have an elevated CPK it still could be poymyositis. What type Doctor do you see for your condition. I am using Policosinol for my elevated cholesterol (250+) and CO-Q-10.

[Guest guest]

What is everyones’ views on

triglyceride levels? Mine is close to 350. I’m taking Trilipix but am

considering discontinuing.

From:

TakingLipitorAndHateIt

[mailto:TakingLipitorAndHateIt ] On Behalf Of Mike Shea

Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011

11:30 AM

To:

TakingLipitorAndHateIt

Subject: RE:

Statin and muscle damage

Dave, your question

is the toughest for patient to answer, due to the constant badgering by

MD’s, yet there is a world of information, such as this site, that can be

used to develop an understanding of the issues. Insisting on comprehensive testing

to determine that all systems are functioning within range is a good start to

building a position that can be used to “just say no to statins”.

Mike

From:

TakingLipitorAndHateIt

[mailto:TakingLipitorAndHateIt ] On Behalf Of davidturgeon

Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011

8:11 PM

To:

TakingLipitorAndHateIt

Cc: davidturgeon

Subject: Re:

Statin and muscle damage

I don't see a doctor for my cholesterol. I no longer have it measured. Why do you

think a level of " 250+ " is sufficiently " elevated " as to

require lowering? Have you considered your system may actually be producing the

level of cholesterol it needs, and that no chemical intervention is required?

Dave Turgeon.

On 11-Nov-11, at 3:18 PM,

wrote:

Now my rheumatologist is vascillating whether the Liptor ( took 40

mg for 4 months) is causing the muscle pain and weakness. I had to remind

him just because I don’t have an elevated CPK it still could be

poymyositis. What type Doctor do you see for your condition. I am using

Policosinol for my elevated cholesterol (250+) and CO-Q-10.

[Guest guest]

Triglycerides are not your friend and an effort should be made to control them. Sugars of all kinds, starch, and alcohol should be avoided until you have them under control. Distilled fish oil Supplement Clinic) with high Omega 3, both types, taken at a 2 to 3 grams a day will start to reduce the level and help to maintain a lower range. Mike From: TakingLipitorAndHateIt [mailto:TakingLipitorAndHateIt ] On Behalf Of Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 9:27 AMTo: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Subject: RE: Statin and muscle damage What is everyones’ views on triglyceride levels? Mine is close to 350. I’m taking Trilipix but am considering discontinuing. From: TakingLipitorAndHateIt [mailto:TakingLipitorAndHateIt ] On Behalf Of Mike SheaSent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 11:30 AMTo: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Subject: RE: Statin and muscle damage Dave, your question is the toughest for patient to answer, due to the constant badgering by MD’s, yet there is a world of information, such as this site, that can be used to develop an understanding of the issues. Insisting on comprehensive testing to determine that all systems are functioning within range is a good start to building a position that can be used to “just say no to statins”.Mike From: TakingLipitorAndHateIt [mailto:TakingLipitorAndHateIt ] On Behalf Of davidturgeonSent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 8:11 PMTo: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Cc: davidturgeonSubject: Re: Statin and muscle damage I don't see a doctor for my cholesterol. I no longer have it measured. Why do you think a level of " 250+ " is sufficiently " elevated " as to require lowering? Have you considered your system may actually be producing the level of cholesterol it needs, and that no chemical intervention is required? Dave Turgeon. Now my rheumatologist is vascillating whether the Liptor ( took 40 mg for 4 months) is causing the muscle pain and weakness. I had to remind him just because I don’t have an elevated CPK it still could be poymyositis. What type Doctor do you see for your condition. I am using Policosinol for my elevated cholesterol (250+) and CO-Q-10.

[Guest guest]

Trilipix just took a hard blow when a study which showed it offered no additional protection from heart attacks and strokes, despite its ability to alter blood lipids.I have come to the personal conclusion that artificially induced changes in blood lipids do not prevent heart disease, heart attacks or strokes. But thats just my personal view.If a female has elevated triglycerides, the first thing I would check is thyroid function. I would make sure there is sufficient blood levels of both T4 and T3 thyroid hormone.If that proved to be good, I would look in other directions, but I would start there.Elimination of

sugars and refined carbohydrates would be the dietary approach.Bobby Alternate email: marooned@...Bobby- Your Caribbean Travel Plannerwww.pinkystravel.com International Destinations, Resorts, Vacation PackagesPhilippine Destination SpecialistTo: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 11:27 AMSubject: RE: Statin and muscle damage

What is everyones’ views on

triglyceride levels? Mine is close to 350. I’m taking Trilipix but am

considering discontinuing.

From:

TakingLipitorAndHateIt

[mailto:TakingLipitorAndHateIt ] On Behalf Of Mike Shea

Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011

11:30 AM

To:

TakingLipitorAndHateIt

Subject: RE:

Statin and muscle damage

Dave, your question

is the toughest for patient to answer, due to the constant badgering by

MD’s, yet there is a world of information, such as this site, that can be

used to develop an understanding of the issues. Insisting on comprehensive testing

to determine that all systems are functioning within range is a good start to

building a position that can be used to “just say no to statinsâ€. Mike

From:

TakingLipitorAndHateIt

[mailto:TakingLipitorAndHateIt ] On Behalf Of davidturgeon

Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011

8:11 PM

To:

TakingLipitorAndHateIt

Cc: davidturgeon

Subject: Re:

Statin and muscle damage

I don't see a doctor for my cholesterol. I no longer have it measured. Why do you

think a level of "250+" is sufficiently "elevated" as to

require lowering? Have you considered your system may actually be producing the

level of cholesterol it needs, and that no chemical intervention is required?

Dave Turgeon.

Now my rheumatologist is vascillating whether the Liptor ( took 40

mg for 4 months) is causing the muscle pain and weakness. I had to remind

him just because I don’t have an elevated CPK it still could be

poymyositis. What type Doctor do you see for your condition. I am using

Policosinol for my elevated cholesterol (250+) and CO-Q-10.

11-Nov-11, at 3:18 PM, wrote:

Now my rheumatologist is vascillating whether the Liptor ( took 40

mg for 4 months) is causing the muscle pain and weakness. I had to remind

him just because I don’t have an elevated CPK it still could be

poymyositis. What type Doctor do you see for your condition. I am using

Policosinol for my elevated cholesterol (250+) and CO-Q-10.

[Guest guest]

,Here are some statements concerning trilipix from a law firm which handles drug claims: http://www.awkolaw.com/news/defective-drugs/trilipix-heart-attack-risk-and-fda-options/Bobby Alternate email: marooned@...Bobby- Your Caribbean Travel Plannerwww.pinkystravel.com International Destinations, Resorts, Vacation PackagesPhilippine Destination SpecialistTo: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 11:27 AMSubject: RE: Statin and muscle damage

What is everyones’ views on

triglyceride levels? Mine is close to 350. I’m taking Trilipix but am

considering discontinuing.

From:

TakingLipitorAndHateIt

[mailto:TakingLipitorAndHateIt ] On Behalf Of Mike Shea

Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011

11:30 AM

To:

TakingLipitorAndHateIt

Subject: RE:

Statin and muscle damage

Dave, your question

is the toughest for patient to answer, due to the constant badgering by

MD’s, yet there is a world of information, such as this site, that can be

used to develop an understanding of the issues. Insisting on comprehensive testing

to determine that all systems are functioning within range is a good start to

building a position that can be used to “just say no to statinsâ€. Mike

From:

TakingLipitorAndHateIt

[mailto:TakingLipitorAndHateIt ] On Behalf Of davidturgeon

Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011

8:11 PM

To:

TakingLipitorAndHateIt

Cc: davidturgeon

Subject: Re:

Statin and muscle damage

I don't see a doctor for my cholesterol. I no longer have it measured. Why do you

think a level of "250+" is sufficiently "elevated" as to

require lowering? Have you considered your system may actually be producing the

level of cholesterol it needs, and that no chemical intervention is required?

Dave Turgeon.

Now my rheumatologist is vascillating whether the Liptor ( took 40

mg for 4 months) is causing the muscle pain and weakness. I had to remind

him just because I don’t have an elevated CPK it still could be

poymyositis. What type Doctor do you see for your condition. I am using

Policosinol for my elevated cholesterol (250+) and CO-Q-10.

11-Nov-11, at 3:18 PM, wrote:

Now my rheumatologist is vascillating whether the Liptor ( took 40

mg for 4 months) is causing the muscle pain and weakness. I had to remind

him just because I don’t have an elevated CPK it still could be

poymyositis. What type Doctor do you see for your condition. I am using

Policosinol for my elevated cholesterol (250+) and CO-Q-10.

[Guest guest]

I guess my point is you shouldn't need to "build a position" as to whether or not you take a certain drug. It's my body, so it's my decision, and mine alone, as to what I place in it. No doctor is going to force feed you pills. Just tell her/him, "I will not take any statin or cholesterol lowering drug -- period."Dave Turgeon. Dave, your question is the toughest for patient to answer, due to the constant badgering by MD’s, yet there is a world of information, such as this site, that can be used to develop an understanding of the issues. Insisting on comprehensive testing to determine that all systems are functioning within range is a good start to building a position that can be used to “just say no to statins”.Mike From: TakingLipitorAndHateIt [mailto:TakingLipitorAndHateIt ] On Behalf Of davidturgeonSent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 8:11 PMTo: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Cc: davidturgeonSubject: Re: Statin and muscle damage I don't see a doctor for my cholesterol. I no longer have it measured. Why do you think a level of "250+" is sufficiently "elevated" as to require lowering? Have you considered your system may actually be producing the level of cholesterol it needs, and that no chemical intervention is required? Dave Turgeon. Now my rheumatologist is vascillating whether the Liptor ( took 40 mg for 4 months) is causing the muscle pain and weakness. I had to remind him just because I don’t have an elevated CPK it still could be poymyositis. What type Doctor do you see for your condition. I am using Policosinol for my elevated cholesterol (250+) and CO-Q-10.

[Guest guest]

, you should read post #10025 about an FDA warning about Trilipix in

combined use with simvastatin (generic for Zocor.)

It did not lower the risk for cardiac events. Isn't the reason we are supposed

to take these drugs in the first place? The article in the post does reference

the use of Trilipix in type 2 diabetics, but I think the warning should be

considered by non-diabetics as well.

Connie

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> Now my rheumatologist is vascillating whether the Liptor ( took 40 mg for 4

> months) is causing the muscle pain and weakness. I had to remind him just

> because I don't have an elevated CPK it still could be poymyositis. What

> type Doctor do you see for your condition. I am using Policosinol for my

> elevated cholesterol (250+) and CO-Q-10.

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[Guest guest]

Scary read- have made up my mind

regarding Trilipix. Just say NO! Thanks .

From:

TakingLipitorAndHateIt

[mailto:TakingLipitorAndHateIt ] On Behalf Of Olson

Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011

4:27 PM

To:

TakingLipitorAndHateIt

Subject: Re:

Statin and muscle damage

,

Here are some

statements concerning trilipix from a law firm which handles drug claims:

http://www.awkolaw.com/news/defective-drugs/trilipix-heart-attack-risk-and-fda-options/

Bobby

Alternate

email: marooned@...

Bobby- Your Caribbean Travel Planner

www.pinkystravel.com

International Destinations, Resorts, Vacation Packages

Philippine Destination Specialist

To:

TakingLipitorAndHateIt

Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011

11:27 AM

Subject: RE:

Statin and muscle damage

What

is everyones’ views on triglyceride levels? Mine is close to 350. I’m taking

Trilipix but am considering discontinuing.

From:

TakingLipitorAndHateIt [mailto:TakingLipitorAndHateIt ]

On Behalf Of Mike Shea

Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011

11:30 AM

To:

TakingLipitorAndHateIt

Subject: RE:

Statin and muscle damage

Dave,

your question is the toughest for patient to answer, due to the constant

badgering by MD’s, yet there is a world of information, such as this site, that

can be used to develop an understanding of the issues. Insisting on

comprehensive testing to determine that all systems are functioning within

range is a good start to building a position that can be used to “just say no

to statins”.

Mike

From:

TakingLipitorAndHateIt

[mailto:TakingLipitorAndHateIt ] On Behalf Of davidturgeon

Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011

8:11 PM

To:

TakingLipitorAndHateIt

Cc: davidturgeon

Subject: Re:

Statin and muscle damage

I don't see a doctor for my cholesterol. I no longer have it measured. Why do

you think a level of " 250+ " is sufficiently " elevated " as

to require lowering? Have you considered your system may actually be producing

the level of cholesterol it needs, and that no chemical intervention is

required?

Dave Turgeon.

On 11-Nov-11,

at 3:18 PM, wrote:

Now my

rheumatologist is vascillating whether the Liptor ( took 40 mg for 4

months) is causing the muscle pain and weakness. I had to remind him just

because I don’t have an elevated CPK it still could be poymyositis. What type

Doctor do you see for your condition. I am using Policosinol for my elevated

cholesterol (250+) and CO-Q-10.

11-Nov-11, at

3:18 PM, wrote:

Now my

rheumatologist is vascillating whether the Liptor ( took 40 mg for 4

months) is causing the muscle pain and weakness. I had to remind him just

because I don’t have an elevated CPK it still could be poymyositis. What type

Doctor do you see for your condition. I am using Policosinol for my elevated

cholesterol (250+) and CO-Q-10.

[Guest guest]

Hi Mike- I do take Fish Oil everyday.

What is “Distilled fish oil

Supplement Clinic) with high Omega 3”” you wrote about?

Hugs,

From:

TakingLipitorAndHateIt

[mailto:TakingLipitorAndHateIt ] On Behalf Of Mike Shea

Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011

4:00 PM

To:

TakingLipitorAndHateIt

Subject: RE:

Statin and muscle damage

Triglycerides are

not your friend and an effort should be made to control them. Sugars of

all kinds, starch, and alcohol should be avoided until you have them under

control. Distilled fish oil Supplement Clinic) with high Omega 3, both types,

taken at a 2 to 3 grams a day will start to reduce the level and help to

maintain a lower range.

Mike

From:

TakingLipitorAndHateIt

[mailto:TakingLipitorAndHateIt ] On Behalf Of

Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011

9:27 AM

To:

TakingLipitorAndHateIt

Subject: RE:

Statin and muscle damage

What is everyones’ views on

triglyceride levels? Mine is close to 350. I’m taking Trilipix but am

considering discontinuing.

From:

TakingLipitorAndHateIt

[mailto:TakingLipitorAndHateIt ] On Behalf Of Mike Shea

Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011

11:30 AM

To:

TakingLipitorAndHateIt

Subject: RE:

Statin and muscle damage

Dave, your question

is the toughest for patient to answer, due to the constant badgering by

MD’s, yet there is a world of information, such as this site, that can be

used to develop an understanding of the issues. Insisting on comprehensive

testing to determine that all systems are functioning within range is a good

start to building a position that can be used to “just say no to

statins”.

Mike

From:

TakingLipitorAndHateIt

[mailto:TakingLipitorAndHateIt ] On Behalf Of davidturgeon

Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011

8:11 PM

To:

TakingLipitorAndHateIt

Cc: davidturgeon

Subject: Re:

Statin and muscle damage

I don't see a doctor for my cholesterol. I no longer have it measured. Why do

you think a level of " 250+ " is sufficiently " elevated " as

to require lowering? Have you considered your system may actually be producing

the level of cholesterol it needs, and that no chemical intervention is

required?

Dave Turgeon.

On 11-Nov-11, at 3:18 PM,

wrote:

Now my rheumatologist is vascillating whether the Liptor ( took 40

mg for 4 months) is causing the muscle pain and weakness. I had to remind

him just because I don’t have an elevated CPK it still could be

poymyositis. What type Doctor do you see for your condition. I am using

Policosinol for my elevated cholesterol (250+) and CO-Q-10.

[Guest guest]

Thanks Connie- I did read the article ( supplied by Bobby, thanks) and it

looks like I've made another decision to drop Trilipix from my medications.

Re: Statin and muscle damage

, you should read post #10025 about an FDA warning about Trilipix in

combined use with simvastatin (generic for Zocor.)

It did not lower the risk for cardiac events. Isn't the reason we are

supposed to take these drugs in the first place? The article in the post

does reference the use of Trilipix in type 2 diabetics, but I think the

warning should be considered by non-diabetics as well.

Connie

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>

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>

>

> Now my rheumatologist is vascillating whether the Liptor ( took 40 mg for

4

> months) is causing the muscle pain and weakness. I had to remind him just

> because I don't have an elevated CPK it still could be poymyositis. What

> type Doctor do you see for your condition. I am using Policosinol for my

> elevated cholesterol (250+) and CO-Q-10.

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[Guest guest]

, here is a link to the product. http://www.supplementclinic.com/Liquid_OM_3_by_eAntiAging_p/10240241.htm Mike From: TakingLipitorAndHateIt [mailto:TakingLipitorAndHateIt ] On Behalf Of Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 4:05 AMTo: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Subject: RE: Statin and muscle damage Hi Mike- I do take Fish Oil everyday. What is “Distilled fish oil Supplement Clinic) with high Omega 3”” you wrote about? Hugs, From: TakingLipitorAndHateIt [mailto:TakingLipitorAndHateIt ] On Behalf Of Mike SheaSent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 4:00 PMTo: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Subject: RE: Statin and muscle damage Triglycerides are not your friend and an effort should be made to control them. Sugars of all kinds, starch, and alcohol should be avoided until you have them under control. Distilled fish oil Supplement Clinic) with high Omega 3, both types, taken at a 2 to 3 grams a day will start to reduce the level and help to maintain a lower range. Mike From: TakingLipitorAndHateIt [mailto:TakingLipitorAndHateIt ] On Behalf Of Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 9:27 AMTo: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Subject: RE: Statin and muscle damage What is everyones’ views on triglyceride levels? Mine is close to 350. I’m taking Trilipix but am considering discontinuing. From: TakingLipitorAndHateIt [mailto:TakingLipitorAndHateIt ] On Behalf Of Mike SheaSent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 11:30 AMTo: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Subject: RE: Statin and muscle damage Dave, your question is the toughest for patient to answer, due to the constant badgering by MD’s, yet there is a world of information, such as this site, that can be used to develop an understanding of the issues. Insisting on comprehensive testing to determine that all systems are functioning within range is a good start to building a position that can be used to “just say no to statins”.Mike From: TakingLipitorAndHateIt [mailto:TakingLipitorAndHateIt ] On Behalf Of davidturgeonSent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 8:11 PMTo: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Cc: davidturgeonSubject: Re: Statin and muscle damage I don't see a doctor for my cholesterol. I no longer have it measured. Why do you think a level of " 250+ " is sufficiently " elevated " as to require lowering? Have you considered your system may actually be producing the level of cholesterol it needs, and that no chemical intervention is required? Dave Turgeon. Now my rheumatologist is vascillating whether the Liptor ( took 40 mg for 4 months) is causing the muscle pain and weakness. I had to remind him just because I don’t have an elevated CPK it still could be poymyositis. What type Doctor do you see for your condition. I am using Policosinol for my elevated cholesterol (250+) and CO-Q-10.

[Guest guest]

, in the last few years, my triglycerides were up to 183 at the highest

level. I'm not sure if that is when I was taking Zocor or after I quit the

statin. I am a type 2 diabetic and I am constantly trying to reduce my levels

of refined carbs, sugars, etc. in order to control my blood sugar levels.

I have been off statins for about 3 years and my last triglyceride level is 118.

I lowered it without a statin or a drug like Trilipix. But, my doctor is still

bugging me about my LDL, which is 142. I tried to take Pravastatin, an older

statin, for 2 weeks in September thinking that an older drug might no be as

strong. Many of my previous areas of muscle pain flaired up again. I do take

CoQ10 daily and Vitamin D (when I remember). Others here have other things that

they take that have helped them.

Unfortunately I am still pretty much exercise intolerant from the statin,

anything I do too much of causes soreness for days, so that is not a treatment

option for me at this time. Every physical activity has to be done carefully,

and lightly, including household chores.

Don't take Trilipix or any statin. This whole cholesterol thing is a scam, I am

sure, we all know it here from experience.

Connie

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> Now my rheumatologist is vascillating whether the Liptor ( took 40 mg for 4

> months) is causing the muscle pain and weakness. I had to remind him just

> because I don't have an elevated CPK it still could be poymyositis. What

> type Doctor do you see for your condition. I am using Policosinol for my

> elevated cholesterol (250+) and CO-Q-10.

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Mike- ordered some today. I’ve

been taking a Costco brand for years.

From: TakingLipitorAndHateIt [mailto:TakingLipitorAndHateIt ] On Behalf Of Mike Shea

Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011

11:28 AM

To: TakingLipitorAndHateIt

Subject: RE:

Statin and muscle damage

, here is a link to the product. http://www.supplementclinic.com/Liquid_OM_3_by_eAntiAging_p/10240241.htm

Mike

From: TakingLipitorAndHateIt [mailto:TakingLipitorAndHateIt ] On Behalf Of

Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011

4:05 AM

To: TakingLipitorAndHateIt

Subject: RE:

Statin and muscle damage

Hi Mike- I do take Fish Oil everyday.

What is “Distilled fish oil

Supplement Clinic) with high Omega 3”” you wrote about?

Hugs,

From: TakingLipitorAndHateIt [mailto:TakingLipitorAndHateIt ] On Behalf Of Mike Shea

Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011

4:00 PM

To: TakingLipitorAndHateIt

Subject: RE:

Statin and muscle damage

Triglycerides are

not your friend and an effort should be made to control them. Sugars of

all kinds, starch, and alcohol should be avoided until you have them under

control. Distilled fish oil Supplement Clinic) with high Omega 3, both types,

taken at a 2 to 3 grams a day will start to reduce the level and help to

maintain a lower range.

Mike

From: TakingLipitorAndHateIt [mailto:TakingLipitorAndHateIt ] On Behalf Of

Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011

9:27 AM

To: TakingLipitorAndHateIt

Subject: RE:

Statin and muscle damage

What is everyones’ views on

triglyceride levels? Mine is close to 350. I’m taking Trilipix but am

considering discontinuing.

From: TakingLipitorAndHateIt [mailto:TakingLipitorAndHateIt ] On Behalf Of Mike Shea

Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011

11:30 AM

To: TakingLipitorAndHateIt

Subject: RE:

Statin and muscle damage

Dave, your question

is the toughest for patient to answer, due to the constant badgering by

MD’s, yet there is a world of information, such as this site, that can be

used to develop an understanding of the issues. Insisting on comprehensive testing

to determine that all systems are functioning within range is a good start to

building a position that can be used to “just say no to statins”.

Mike

From: TakingLipitorAndHateIt [mailto:TakingLipitorAndHateIt ] On Behalf Of davidturgeon

Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011

8:11 PM

To: TakingLipitorAndHateIt

Cc: davidturgeon

Subject: Re:

Statin and muscle damage

I don't see a doctor for my cholesterol. I no longer have it measured. Why do

you think a level of " 250+ " is sufficiently " elevated " as

to require lowering? Have you considered your system may actually be producing

the level of cholesterol it needs, and that no chemical intervention is

required?

Dave Turgeon.

On 11-Nov-11, at 3:18 PM,

wrote:

Now my rheumatologist is vascillating whether the Liptor ( took 40

mg for 4 months) is causing the muscle pain and weakness. I had to remind

him just because I don’t have an elevated CPK it still could be

poymyositis. What type Doctor do you see for your condition. I am using Policosinol

for my elevated cholesterol (250+) and CO-Q-10.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info Connie. I take 100 mg of Policosinol a day in addition

to Fish Oil.

Re: Statin and muscle damage

, in the last few years, my triglycerides were up to 183 at the

highest level. I'm not sure if that is when I was taking Zocor or after I

quit the statin. I am a type 2 diabetic and I am constantly trying to

reduce my levels of refined carbs, sugars, etc. in order to control my blood

sugar levels.

I have been off statins for about 3 years and my last triglyceride level is

118. I lowered it without a statin or a drug like Trilipix. But, my doctor

is still bugging me about my LDL, which is 142. I tried to take

Pravastatin, an older statin, for 2 weeks in September thinking that an

older drug might no be as strong. Many of my previous areas of muscle pain

flaired up again. I do take CoQ10 daily and Vitamin D (when I remember).

Others here have other things that they take that have helped them.

Unfortunately I am still pretty much exercise intolerant from the statin,

anything I do too much of causes soreness for days, so that is not a

treatment option for me at this time. Every physical activity has to be

done carefully, and lightly, including household chores.

Don't take Trilipix or any statin. This whole cholesterol thing is a scam,

I am sure, we all know it here from experience.

Connie

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> type Doctor do you see for your condition. I am using Policosinol for my

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