Re: Fit vs Fat --> RE: Doctor, Heal Thysel f an adversial opinion

[Guest guest]

yes.

thanks for bringing that up.

You could be implying i , being lean, could be unfit... but

the problem really is how do i get my fat patients fit?

And the way to get unfat -before I bring the " good calories bad

calories " folks(book by Taubes who is coming here to speak in 2

months )down on my head - is at this point in science in 2007 the way to

get less fat is to exercsie and watch how you eat.

Exercising can lead to fitness .Thus fat and fit is a tough concept i

think. In my not so humble opinion,.

Fit vs Fat --> RE: Doctor, Heal Thyself an

adversial opinion

Of course, there has been some discussion that it's not just being fat

that is the issue -- although fatness can be a marker for non-fitness.

But it's probalby more important to get our patients fit -- regardless

of them losing weight.

The ideal is fit and not fat.

But being fat and fit possibly doesn't carry much more mortality than

fit and normal weight.

And possibly is better to be fit/fat than unfit/lean.

http://www.consumer

<http://www.consumerfreedom.com/news_detail.cfm/headline/2632>

freedom.com/news_detail.cfm/headline/2632

http://student.

<http://student.biology.arizona.edu/honors2006/group13/Fit%20vs%20Fat.ht

m> biology.arizona.edu/honors2006/group13/Fit%20vs%20Fat.htm

Just a thought to throw in the mix...we may be arguing over a vital

signs marker (fatness) that is less important than the patient's fitness

level.

I'm sure there is more to the story that others can offer, but fatness

isn't the only marker to consider.

And possibly, if a patient is fit/fat, they may be better off than their

normal weight out of shape doctor.

:-)

Locke, MD

[Guest guest]

I think Sumo wrestlers illustrate this point .. they are pretty well

while they remain fit and fighting, but as soon as they retire, and

lose their fitness, their mortality rises sharply.

So, maybe we can get your fat patients to take up Sumo wrestling??

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> yes.

> thanks for bringing that up.

> You could be implying i , being lean, could be unfit... but

> the problem really is how do i get my fat patients fit?

> And the way to get unfat -before I bring the " good calories bad

> calories " folks(book by Taubes who is coming here to speak in 2

> months )down on my head - is at this point in science in 2007 the way to

> get less fat is to exercsie and watch how you eat.

> Exercising can lead to fitness .Thus fat and fit is a tough concept i

> think. In my not so humble opinion,.

--

Graham Chiu

http://www.synapsedirect.com

Synapse-EMR - innovative electronic medical records system

[Guest guest]

I

agree. I think the average life expectancy of an NFL lineman is something like

47. They are fat and fit when they play, but end up just fat and achy when they

are done.

Re: Fit vs Fat --> RE:

Doctor, Heal Thysel f an adversial opinion

I think Sumo wrestlers illustrate this point .. they

are pretty well

while they remain fit and fighting, but as soon as they retire, and

lose their fitness, their mortality rises sharply.

So, maybe we can get your fat patients to take up Sumo wrestling??

On Jan 7, 2008 7:40 AM, <jantonuccifchn (DOT) org> wrote:

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> yes.

> thanks for bringing that up.

> You could be implying i , being lean, could be unfit... but

> the problem really is how do i get my fat patients fit?

> And the way to get unfat -before I bring the " good calories bad

> calories " folks(book by Taubes who is coming here to speak

in 2

> months )down on my head - is at this point in science in 2007 the way to

> get less fat is to exercsie and watch how you eat.

> Exercising can lead to fitness .Thus fat and fit is a tough concept i

> think. In my not so humble opinion,.

--

Graham Chiu

http://www.synapsedirect.com

Synapse-EMR - innovative electronic medical records system