Guest guest Posted March 24, 2002 Report Share Posted March 24, 2002 ----- Original Message ----- From: " Ilena Rose " <ilena@...> <Recipient List Suppressed:;> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 7:10 PM Subject: SENATE Committee on Commerce and Labor on Breast Implants EXCERPT: Morton Hyson, M.D., Concerned Citizen, stated he is a board certified neurologists, and has been in practice for 18 years, 10 of those years in LasVegas, and he is an assistant clinical professor at the University of Nevada, LasVegas, School of Medicine. He testified he has seen many women with the silicone breast implants syndrome, and he is firmly convinced it is a serious and bona fide syndrome. He explained, the women¼s symptoms are very stereotypical. He stated he has seen many women suffering from headaches, skin rash, diffused incapacitating pain, memory problems, cognitive dysfunction, dry mouth, dry eyes, weakness, shortness of breath, nausea, and visual problems. He asserted there is no doubt the body recognizes these implants as a foreign body. He said this is a well-known inflammatory reaction called a capsule around the implants, which is found when they are explanted (removed). He said leakage is well known not only of silicone, but also of platinum and other heavy metals that are part of the contents of the bags; even the saline implants have silicone in their envelopes. He pointed out all of this material becomes a breeding ground for bacteria and fungi. He attributed the death of some patients to this. He maintained he has no doubt this is a true syndrome. Dr. Hyson stated just because there is no simple laboratory test to diagnose it, does not mean it does not exist; all it means is that it is not some other disease, and it is the fault of medical science that we have not devised a means to properly identify it. He said if everyone has to compare this to something, then he would like to compare it to another syndrome also predominately affecting women, causing headaches, cognitive dysfunction, visual loss, and nausea and almost always has normal tests. He said some say it does not exist, or that these women are hysterical or malingering, but others call it migraine. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.leg.state.nv.us/71st/Minutes/Senate/CL/Final/1527.html MINUTES OF THE SENATE Committee on Commerce and Labor Seventy-First Session May 30, 2001 The Senate Committee on Commerce and Laborwas called to order by Chairman Randolph J. Townsend, at 8:05 a.m., on Wednesday, May 30, 2001, in Room 2135 of the Legislative Building, Carson City, Nevada. The meeting was video conferenced to the Grant Sawyer Office Building, Room 4406, 555 East Washington Avenue, Las Vegas, Nevada. ExhibitA is the Agenda. ExhibitB is the Attendance Roster. All exhibits are available and on file at the Research Library of the Legislative Counsel Bureau. COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT: Senator Randolph J. Townsend, Chairman Senator Ann O¼Connell, Vice Chairman Senator Dean A. Rhoads Senator Mark Amodei Senator C. Shaffer Senator A. (Mike) Schneider Senator Maggie Carlton GUEST LEGISLATORS PRESENT: Dennis Nolan, County Assembly District No. 13 Ellen Marie Koivisto, County Assembly District No. 14 STAFF MEMBERS PRESENT: Young, Committee Policy Analyst Adler, Committee Secretary OTHERS PRESENT: Morton Hyson, M.D., Concerned Citizen Geoffrey White, Esquire, Concerned Citizen Roy Cannon, Esquire, Concerned Citizen Lee Randle, Concerned Citizen Gaylene Ausem, Concerned Citizen Glenda , Concerned Citizen Diep T. Woodard, Concerned Citizen Patty , Concerned Citizen Ed Wood, Concerned Citizen Toni , Concerned Citizen ASSEMBLY BILL 667: Revives for limited time certain causes of action based on effects of silicone injected or implanted into body. (BDR2-1559) Dennis Nolan, County Assembly District No. 13, stated he considered himself one of the most unlikely people to bring this item forward. He said he had received many communications from women and thought there was nothing he could do, until a retired fireman friend of his related a personal story. He said he was apprehensive about introducing a bill that would extend or toll the statute of limitations on any issue, and dropped the bill draft request in favor of the Assembly having a joint hearing to make that determination. The select committee was the result, he said. He conveyed it was estimated there have been 40,000 breast implants done in this country, of which approximately 20,000 were done in Nevada, mostly to Nevada residents. No one is sure how many women have experienced ill effect from this he pointed out. He said it is estimated from 200 to, perhaps, several thousand. Continuing, Assemblyman Nolan stated legal counsel is present to explain the chronological order of the Dow Corning lawsuit and the settlement. He said the genesis is, there were several hundred women precluded from being involved in the Dow Corning lawsuit, who have become very sick from silicone leakage or injections. He explained that some of the women are so sick they are " on disability with the state.¾ Projecting ahead, he said, it is difficult to estimate how many will eventually end up on state rolls, because they have become uninsurable. He contended it is a double issue of health care and a fiscal issue for the state. Assemblyman Nolan emphasized, after further examination, he is convinced this is a life or death issue for many woman. He conveyed that many women have become destitute and dependent on family to care for them, because they have become so ill. He noted, without opening the statute of limitations, many of these woman have no recourse and no hope. Assemblyman Nolan averred, Dow Corning was not initially represented at the hearing, but by the end, Dow Corning had secured lobbyists and a high-profile law firm to represent them at the Legislature. He expounded the opposition contends action on Assembly Bill (A.B.) 667 would toll the statute of limitations on every other issue. Their position, he said, is this would be the proverbial " camel¼s nose under the tent.¾ He articulated every bill the legislature passes, has the potential to set precedence. Ellen Marie Koivisto, County Assembly District No. 14, stated A.B. 667 is an emergency bill, passed unanimously by the select committee, and passed unanimously by the Assembly. She clarified the bill was amended to limit the window of opportunity to 1 year and limit the action to the manufacturers of the substance. She noted the prepared packet of information (Exhibit C) contains historical backgrounds, studies from scientific journals, information from university websites, and a copy of the Breast Implant Research and Information Act (BIRIA), introduced May 24, 2001, in the United States House of Representatives; as well as statements and testimony from victims of silicone-induced disease. Assemblywoman Koivisto elucidated the majority of silicone breast implants and silicone breast injections were done in California and Nevada, with, probably, more than half of the procedures done in Nevada, so it really is a Nevada problem. She emphasized the importance of considering what could be done for these ladies and their families. Morton Hyson, M.D., Concerned Citizen, stated he is a board certified neurologists, and has been in practice for 18 years, 10 of those years in LasVegas, and he is an assistant clinical professor at the University of Nevada, LasVegas, School of Medicine. He testified he has seen many women with the silicone breast implants syndrome, and he is firmly convinced it is a serious and bona fide syndrome. He explained, the women¼s symptoms are very stereotypical. He stated he has seen many women suffering from headaches, skin rash, diffused incapacitating pain, memory problems, cognitive dysfunction, dry mouth, dry eyes, weakness, shortness of breath, nausea, and visual problems. He asserted there is no doubt the body recognizes these implants as a foreign body. He said this is a well-known inflammatory reaction called a capsule around the implants, which is found when they are explanted (removed). He said leakage is well known not only of silicone, but also of platinum and other heavy metals that are part of the contents of the bags; even the saline implants have silicone in their envelopes. He pointed out all of this material becomes a breeding ground for bacteria and fungi. He attributed the death of some patients to this. He maintained he has no doubt this is a true syndrome. Dr. Hyson stated just because there is no simple laboratory test to diagnose it, does not mean it does not exist; all it means is that it is not some other disease, and it is the fault of medical science that we have not devised a means to properly identify it. He said if everyone has to compare this to something, then he would like to compare it to another syndrome also predominately affecting women, causing headaches, cognitive dysfunction, visual loss, and nausea and almost always has normal tests. He said some say it does not exist, or that these women are hysterical or malingering, but others call it migraine. Geoffrey White, Esquire, Concerned Citizen, stated to better address the situation and anticipate questions, he prepared and sent a letter to all the committee members (Exhibit D). He articulated there are two elements to silicone implants. First is the physical scarring and deformation occasioned by ruptures. The rupture is equivalent to a silicone injection into the body migrating into the organs and tissue; and there is medical evidence to support that. He noted a book, Silicone Spills, Breast Implants on Trial, by Professor White , a professor at the University of Nevada, Reno (UNR). Mr.White disclosed the author is his sister, and claimed she wrote the book independent of the litigation, based on the references in the book. He pointed out there were between 200 and 300 references dealing with the various medical consequences of silicone in the particular controversy. Continuing, Mr. White said the second element is the disease claims. He elucidated many women have lupus, fibromyalgia, and severe disease, all resulting from silicone. He stated that in 1968 [sic] the Legislature was so outraged it made silicone injections a felony. He noted there was no controversy then, but there is now, and it is because of the manufacturers¼ campaign to engineer testimony to say silicone gel breast implants are safe, when, in fact, they are not safe. He averred many women have been successful in obtaining awards and getting judgments, but there is still a percentage, mostly in Nevada, who have not. This 5 to 10 percent of woman who could not or did not file within the 2 years allotted under the statute of limitations, mostly because the implants had not ruptured or many believed the manufacturer¼s propaganda that the released silicone was harmless to their systems. Further, he said, the most recent study by the National Institute of Health as sponsored by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is a study the manufacturers have been trying to keep quiet for the past 3 to 4 years. He noted this particular study shows the most common complaint from women with ruptured silicone breast implants is fibromyalgia, which is a much higher incidence than in the average population. He contended if the studies supported by the manufacturers showing no correlation between silicone and these women¼s illnesses, then the manufacturers should have no concern about the passage of A.B. 667. He emphasized, at the very least, the bill would give these women a chance at their day in court. Senator O'Connell queried, since silicone breast implants became a felony in 1968, whether these 5 to 10 percent of women had their implants prior to that date. Mr. White explained the felony law addressed only the injection of silicone directly into the breast tissue using a needle. He added, a lot of Las Vegas showgirls, cocktail waitresses, and others had the procedure done, mostly to keep jobs or to get jobs. He insisted the bill does not have impact on any Nevada employer interests or against doctors; it is only directed at the manufacturers of these products, because it was the manufacturers who represented product safety to the doctors. He elucidated, to get around the felony law against injections, manufacturers developed the plastic bag to contain the silicone. He continued, unfortunately the bags can deteriorate, or an accident can cause the bags to rupture, and the contents act just like a silicone injection, but a ruptured bag is not a felony. Senator O'Connell surmised then the doctor holds no responsibility for passing on the information or for performing the implant surgery. Mr. White answered the doctor could not be held beyond the statute of limitations, as the bill is presently drafted. He explained the reason is the manufacturers misled the doctors. Senator O'Connell wanted to know what was the federal government¼s responsibility in all of this. Mr. White replied, on April 16, 1992, the federal government successfully banned silicone gel breast implants into women in this country. He added in the ensuing years, the FDA has not lifted the ban. Senator O'Connell asked to clarify whether the 5 to 10 percent of women had their implants prior to the ban. Mr. White acknowledged that was correct. He added most of them had their implants done in 1990 or earlier. He pointed out most implants do not rupture until 7 to 10 years afterwards, and many of them are rupturing now. He stated A.B. 667 would address the issue of women who are now experiencing the effects of silicone leaking into their bodies from ruptured implants. Senator O'Connell inquired if the doctors required a paper to be signed by these women in order for the doctors to protect themselves. Mr. White responded some did and some did not. He said many doctors had informed consents, but many of the informed consents did not cover autoimmune disease, because many of the doctors believed the silicone was not capable of causing autoimmune disease, such as fibromyalgia. Senator O'Connell emphasized it was said the doctors have no responsibility whatsoever. Mr. White conveyed, most of the doctors involved with implants do not share responsibility with the manufacturers. He acknowledged there are some women who would disagree with that assessment. But, again, he held that the manufacturers misled the doctors, and he said the manufacturers were clear to not blame the doctors for the catastrophe. Senator O'Connell contended it was hard for her to believe a doctor putting something foreign into a body would not want to have more information or education on that issue than just what the manufacturer provided. She emphasized she could not " connect¾ with that. Mr. White said there are a lot of women who would concur with her. But in Nevada, the most logical and liable defendant in this particular case, would be the manufacturer of the substance, who engaged in a concerted, proven, campaign to say the implants would last a lifetime, and never cause disease or harm. Senator O'Connell inquired what responsibility the federal government has in giving its approval to this procedure. Mr. White answered the FDA was completely misled by the manufacturers in this particular process. Senator O'Connell asked whether the FDA did any testing of its own. Mr. White replied it was incumbent on the manufacturers to demonstrate the safety of their implants. However, because of a grandfather position on products that were enacted before the FDA enacted its legislation, which required manufacturers to prove safety, the breast implant manufacturers did not have to demonstrate safety at the time the implants were first approved. He continued, it was only later when it was insisted that manufacturers demonstrate safety, and they could not, that silicone breast implants were banned by the FDA for most purposes and allowed only for limited exceptions. Roy Cannon, Esquire, Concerned Citizen, stated he represents victims of silicone injections given during the 1960s. He elucidated the 1995 lawsuit he was involved in was made part of Dow Corning¼s bankruptcy filing. He explained silicone was never approved by the FDA for the purpose of injection. He stated Dow Corning had elected to treat silicon injections as a device rather than as a drug, because they contended that silicone was inert, safe, and would not migrate within the body. He explained that, for the most part, his clients¼ claims are barred by the statute of limitations due to the early onset of symptoms. He noted not all the people were women, and other body parts were also injected. He expounded, when silicone was injected, in most cases, there was almost an immediate reaction. The reactions included formation of lumps and encapsulation pain. Mr. White said Nevada is a " discovery state,¾ for purposes of the statute of limitations. He explained this means the time starts running either when the event takes place, such as a motor vehicle accident, or in these cases, the time starts when the individual knew or should have known there was an injury. He stated many courts have held the knowledge was there at the time the lumps formed or when the individual starts experiencing pain. He said since this occurred in the 1960s, the statute has run out in most cases. He averred most of the women who had silicone breast injections have also had double mastectomies for removal of the silicone, and received silicone breast implants. He added there are reports that say not all of the women who have had silicone breast injections are sick, but all of the " 200 plus¾ women he has interviewed are sick. Continuing, Mr. Cannon stated that over the years of continued investigation, it has come out Dow Corning knew back in the 1960s silicone was not safe, was not inert, and did migrate to all the organs of the body, and they did not report this to anyone. He pointed out, at that time, there were no independent studies required or performed; the FDA required manufacturers to only report the results of completed studies. Subsequently, he said, it has been discovered when a study was not going the manufacturers¼ way, they terminated the study, and so never completed or reported on it. Mr. Cannon pointed out the women initially believed they were going to be covered by the various global proposals brought forth by the various manufacturers offering compensation to victims of silicone. He said on the early claim forms Dow Corning sent out, the only place for those who had silicone injections to check off was labeled " breast implants.¾ He told the committee, it wasn¼t until the third revised plan in 1999 these women realized they were excluded. Mr. Cannon emphasized many of the women are " on disability and welfare,¾ and A.B. 667 would help them remedy their situations, get the care they need, and reduce the burden on public funds. He pointed out one of the biggest beneficiaries to the Dow Corning settlement would be the federal government, which is seeking recovery of medical benefits paid on over 15,000 identified recipients. Mr. Cannon mentioned passage of the bill would have no impact on Nevada¼s courts, since everything would go through the federal courts. Additionally, he said, it would not have a substantial impact on business perception in Nevada. He claimed the bill has a very limited scope. For example, in the State of New York, there were not huge numbers of cases nor many people from outside the state coming to litigate their cases. He noted the California bill was overwhelmingly approved by both houses, then vetoed by Governor Pete , because he believed the women would receive an adequate remedy under the manufacturers¼ plan. However, he said, that plan came out after the veto, and did not provide a remedy. He noted the bill does not change Nevada tort law with respect to injury or causation; it just gives these women a chance at their day in court. Senator O'Connell inquired how Dow Corning could sell something to doctors without the endorsement of the FDA. Mr. Cannon replied proof of rigorous testing was not required at that time. He added, to this day, many people have a misconception of the role of the FDA. He said many people think if a product is on the market, the FDA has approved it. He conveyed the FDA¼s primary responsibility lies with pharmaceuticals, and often a product is approved for one purpose, and then used for another. For example, he said, pedicle screws were developed for orthopedic injuries, and then used in the back, which was not an FDA approved use for the device, but it was held that the device itself had been approved so it could be used in that manner. Senator O'Connell questioned how anything invasive or internalized by the body would not have to be approved. Mr. Cannon answered, it would depend on the circumstances. He stressed any device would have to be approved with respect to a particular purpose. He clarified their situation was dealing with the law as it applied in the early sixties, and that was a completely different situation. Mr. White stated one of the arguments that will be raised regarding silicone breast implants versus silicone breast injections, is that, under the national settlement program, they still have a remedy. However, he said, it is very clear if people are late registrants under the revised global settlement, they do not get to have the implants removed, medical bills paid, or disease compensation. Only about one-tenth of one percent of the late registrants would get any benefits at all from the manufacturers¼ settlement program, he added. Lee Randle, Concerned Citizen, stated she has been a Nevada resident for 12years, has had breast implants for 16 years, and this is her fourth set of implants. She said since her implants ruptured 10 months ago, the most significant effect has been transient blindness. She said she wanted to correct Mr.White¼s statement that women are no longer being injected with silicone. She explained when she saw her doctor about the rupture, he offered to replace it by injecting her with silicone. So, it is still being done on a regular basis in Las Vegas by one very busy surgeon in particular. She explained, within a year, possibly 2 years at the most, she will be destitute and she and her children will have to depend on the state for assistance. She insisted it would not be the case if she could prove in court the silicone manufacturers are responsible for her illnesses. Gaylene Ausem, Concerned Citizen, stated she¼s been a resident of Nevada since 1960 and is 51 years old. She said she has neurological, gastrointestinal, autoimmune, thyroid, and colon problems, to name just a few. She elucidated conditions such as hers have been a part of studies recently released. These are highly credited studies linking silicone to diseases. She claimed it took some people over 30 years of exposure to reach their present conditions. She emphasized silicone is a slowly progressive, toxic poison. She pointed out about three-quarters of the women who have had injections and/or implants are now on disability. She stated it is becoming increasingly difficult to get insurance, and more and more insurance company questionnaires are asking if a person has now or ever had silicone in his or her body. She noted silicone is made from 39 toxic chemicals, such as vinyl chloride, epoxy resin, and tuline; many bearing the warning labels of " do not inhale¾ or " do not ingest,¾ because it may result in death. She said there are no warning labels accompanying the silicone, and the medical profession has assured women it is a safe product. She stressed there have been no warnings about the effects to newborns or in nursing a baby. Senator O'Connell queried whether, at the time of the surgery, Ms. Ausem¼s doctor gave her no warning about breast-feeding. Ms. Ausem replied, in less than 3 years after receiving her injections, she had a hysterectomy and then had implants. Both those times she was given no information about the product¼s use, contents or warnings. Senator O'Connell asked if any of the paperwork required before surgery contained any warnings or information. Ms. Ausem stated there were no warnings at all, and she has copies of her medical records. She expounded that she was first injected in 1971, implanted in 1974, and implanted in 1988. She added, there is evidence of genetic changes, and even generational. She claimed no one in support of A.B. 667 is there to judge, but only to " ask for their day in court,¾ so the manufacturers can be held responsible for their actions, and pay for the human suffering they have caused, instead of having Nevada shoulder the costs. Glenda , Concerned Citizen, stated she has lived in Las Vegas for over 20 years and is a breast implant survivor. She stated she has been living the effects of silicone leaking into her body for 24 years, and did not know why she was getting sicker, and for a long time neither did the doctors. She asserted she is asking for approval of the bill so these companies can no longer commit fraud on an unsuspecting, and trusting public. Diep T. Woodard, Concerned Citizen, stated she has been a 25-year resident in Las Vegas, and for the past 10 years she has been very ill. She insisted she could not find a lawyer to take her case, and this bill is the only hope she has of getting help. Patty , Concerned Citizen, stated she became very ill from her saline implants after only 8 months. She said the shell of the saline implants is made of silicone. Her blood test showed an elevated rheumatoid factor, but after having the implants removed, her rheumatoid factor has gone down to almost normal. She contended that was proof enough the silicone in her implants was the cause of her problems. She posited she now operates a website to inform women saline implants are not safe because the saline is in a silicone package. She said she also offers counseling and guidance for women who have nowhere else to turn. Ed Wood, Concerned Citizen, stated he was the retired fireman AssemblymanNolan had mentioned. He said he and his wife were long-time Nevadans. He said his wife had silicone injections before they met and married in 1967. He averred that throughout the years, they just gritted their teeth and dealt with his wife¼s medical problems, never making the connection until last year while on the Internet. Now they know, and now, more than ever, he said, something needs to be done to address this problem through A.B.667. Toni , Concerned Citizen, stated she has waited a long time for the opportunity for her turn. She said she had injections in 1967, and her medical problems began in 1980 when she breast-fed her son, who died at 3 months. She has her son¼s autopsy report linking his death to the silicone in her body. She said she then came down with multiple sclerosis (MS) symptoms. Sheasserted, in 1982 her other children began to show physical problems. She maintained in 1993 she saw a television program featuring women telling their silicone injection and implant stories, and realized they were talking about the same problems she and her family were experiencing. She emphasized she tried in the 1990s to get her day in court, and she was still trying. Assemblyman Nolan stated during earlier testimony, they heard from women so affected they had to be helped to get around. He noted those testifying today were just a small number of the persons providing the testimony they heard. He elucidated, during testimony, one of the women bared her chest to show the nodules that had formed as a result of the different toxins and poisons resulting from the silicone. He conveyed the only precedents that would be set by the passage of A.B. 667, is that other states may follow. He contended the manufacturer has the wherewithal to hire every lobbyist in this building for its cause, and he thinks it would do that. He concluded Nevada has the determination and the pioneering spirit to lead the way and take action. Senator Townsend noted the opposition to A.B. 667 would be heard another day, and closed the hearing on A.B. 667. The meeting was adjourned at 9:17a.m. RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED: Adler, Committee Secretary APPROVED BY: Senator Randolph J. Townsend, Chairman DATE: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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