Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 I am glad to hear from you again. I thought you were gone. Nice to have a different perspective.Lonnavaleazinelor wrote: > > I am a Socialist in the Medical field. > > Physicians income/salary be whatever is considered upper middle class, the > same irrespective of specialty field. If that is not enough, there are > plenty of other fields to use your neurons. Medical School tuition should be > covered by the government and enrollment increased and opened to Americans > so there is no need to "import" foreign trained Physicians (if they are so > competent, let them stay in their native country and serve their fellow > countrymen). (BTW, I was born an American citizen and attended an American > Medical School!) Let me tell you something : you can't be a socialist only where and when it suits you. Socialism functions on a "all or nothing" rule. Doctor's salaries in a socialist country are not "upper middle class", they are "lower middle class" at best : mine was 300$ net/month after graduation and 600$ net/month after residency. An IT guy had maybe 1600$ net/month and a car repair guy 1100$. School is free but salaries are taxed 50% to cover the "free". A true socialist is willing to sacrifice his well-being for the "bigger good", at least on paper that's the whole idea : you can't be Mr Upper Class Guy while the poor workers pay for your school and salary. You know what Marx said ? "From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs." If you can't live by that, you're not a true socialist, just a wannabe BTW, I was born a Romanian citizen and attended a "free" romanian school. I have three kids "true americans" who attend an American Public School. They think that Europe is a country in Asia and Columbus was a british citizen. The public school (government) spends 7000$ per child each year to teach them that. You feel threatened by people like me ? Be better than me and you have nothing to fear. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 I feel compelled to clarify some finer points:I am a Socialist only in the American sense, Medicare is a socialist program, I participate in it. I don't openly participate in Medicaid, the fees are too low (I have obligations!, remember Dudley in Arthur, in the very last scene he accepts his family's money, " I am not stupid " ). I have one Medicare/Medicaid patient, and the minor son of a mentally handicapped adult on a Medicare HMO. There is a lot of things wrong in a society that has Multi-millionaire Sports and Media figures, not to mention Tele-Evangelists, while health care field professionals (Doctors, Nurses and others) are barely scrapping by. If " they " can give subsidies and tax credits to Big-Farm, Big-Oil and the filthy rich, " they " can assure a reasonable and comfortable lifestyle for " Us " the medical peons. I don't need a BMW or MB I respect people like Amory Lovins:http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/51 http://www.oilendgame.com/ http://www.rmi.org/I also respect Pinker: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/13/magazine/13Psychology-t.html?_r=2 & oref=slogin & oref=slogin Norman Borlaug has done more for Mankind than any Physician http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_BorlaugI am also a true agnostic that envies the apparent peacefulness of buddhist meditation, when one realizes that prominent atheis cosmologists and humble buddhist monks agree that we are insignificant, there has to be some Universal truth behind that belief. Rant over... On Jan 17, 2008 12:44 AM, Lonna Larsh < larshlonna@...> wrote: I am glad to hear from you again. I thought you were gone. Nice to have a different perspective.Lonna -- Pedro Ballester, M.D.Warren, OH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 No one is insignificant! Certainly not your children, and not the wonderful people on the listserv.Philosophy according to Jacques ,_._,___ " ...when one realizes that prominent atheis cosmologists and humble buddhist monks agree that we are insignificant, there has to be some Universal truth behind that belief. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 The moment one accepts insignificance is the first step in the long road to reduce dukkha and maybe understand the concept of Samsara.On Jan 17, 2008 11:12 PM, Jacques Guillot < jacques.guillot@...> wrote: No one is insignificant! Certainly not your children, and not the wonderful people on the listserv.Philosophy according to Jacques ,_._,___ " ...when one realizes that prominent atheist cosmologists and humble buddhist monks agree that we are insignificant, there has to be some Universal truth behind that belief. " -- Pedro Ballester, M.D.Warren, OH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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