Guest guest Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 I don't recall that podcast (if you give the number, I'll listen again), but I think goal setting, if put in the context of dreaming, can be an excellent motivator--especially if you visualize the change and " feel it real. " Â Stepping inside the body or behavior you want can be positive reinforcement. Goal setting for me can be tricky, though. It's so easy to say to myself, especially if I've had some success, " I can lose 20 pounds by Christmas if I do ___. " That kind of thinking is how I spent my dieting years, and no good can come from that at all. So it might be worth analyzing how goal setting worked for you in the past, with regard to weight loss. If the goal is treated more like a daily affirmation or setting/renewing intent, that could be very empowering, as long as we don't come down to hard on ourselves if we miss a goal. It's the ability to self correct without recrimination that I find more empowering than extremely detailed goals. It had never occurred to be before that I could forgive myself. ZZ ________________________________ To: insideoutweightloss Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2011 6:13 PM Subject: Setting Goals... Â Hello all! I've been thinking a lot this past week about the setting goals podcast. suggests that setting weight-loss goals is not necessarily productive. I disagree. I think that setting a goal for myself is motivating and is a way of saying that I want more good stuff (health, well-being, fun...) for myself. I do agree that there are different kinds of goals that we can set, like a goal of learning how eat according to my hunger, but I think that number goals are useful too. Any thoughts on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 In podcast 193, gives examples of goal setting that might be counterproductive. Towards the end of the podcast, she gives an example of a learning goal, a type of goal that goes along more with the type of dreaming you describe. I have also found that goals like " lose 10lbs this month " to be counterproductive, because weight loss isn't necessarily linear. For instance, one month I focused a lot on exercise. I didn't lose any weight, but lost lots of inches. So should I be upset at not making my goal? Goals that focus on actions rather than outcomes work better for me. If my goal for that particular month was " exercise five days a week " , I have a much better chance of making it happen. And if I am consistent with actions like that, eventually physical changes will follow. Oh, in 193 did say she'd go into the difference between goals and intent, but it's not in 194.... > I don't recall that podcast (if you give the number, I'll listen again), but I think goal setting, if put in the context of dreaming, can be an excellent motivator--especially if you visualize the change and " feel it real. " Stepping inside the body or behavior you want can be positive reinforcement. > > Goal setting for me can be tricky, though. It's so easy to say to myself, especially if I've had some success, " I can lose 20 pounds by Christmas if I do ___. " That kind of thinking is how I spent my dieting years, and no good can come from that at all. > > So it might be worth analyzing how goal setting worked for you in the past, with regard to weight loss. If the goal is treated more like a daily affirmation or setting/renewing intent, that could be very empowering, as long as we don't come down to hard on ourselves if we miss a goal. It's the ability to self correct without recrimination that I find more empowering than extremely detailed goals. It had never occurred to be before that I could forgive myself. > > ZZ > > ________________________________ > > To: insideoutweightloss > Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2011 6:13 PM > Subject: Setting Goals... > > > Hello all! > > I've been thinking a lot this past week about the setting goals podcast. suggests that setting weight-loss goals is not necessarily productive. I disagree. I think that setting a goal for myself is motivating and is a way of saying that I want more good stuff (health, well-being, fun...) for myself. I do agree that there are different kinds of goals that we can set, like a goal of learning how eat according to my hunger, but I think that number goals are useful too. Any thoughts on this? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 What you're saying about having manageable, action - oriented goals in mind, seems way more helpful than 'lose 2 pounds every week' or 'weigh xx amount by xx date.' You can't really control things like that, and then you might feel bad about yourself for not achieving something, even if you've been making good progress in other ways. I haven't gotten up to that podcast yet, but I just sat down yesterday and wrote out a list of goals, so this has been on my mind. I have a number in mind I ultimately want to lose, but found that since I started listening to , the number feels less important. Practical goals (ie: do at least 15 minutes of yoga every morning, plan my meals out each day) are much more important to me.Interestingly, I've dropped roughly 3 sizes, which makes me feel amazing. Yet my weight hasn't gone down as much as I thought it would. It would be counterproductive to think that I've failed because of the number on the scale, when the mirror and the new clothes I've been able to buy tell me that I'm doing well. On a kind of related note - what are peoples' thoughts on rewards? I was thinking something along the lines of 'if I achieve my exercise goals for the week I can buy myself flowers'. Of course the best reward is feeling good and being healthy, but has anybody found that having a nice reward serves as a helpful motivator? ________________________________ To: " insideoutweightloss " <insideoutweightloss > Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2011 4:55 AM Subject: Re: Setting Goals... Â In podcast 193, gives examples of goal setting that might be counterproductive. Towards the end of the podcast, she gives an example of a learning goal, a type of goal that goes along more with the type of dreaming you describe. I have also found that goals like " lose 10lbs this month " to be counterproductive, because weight loss isn't necessarily linear. For instance, one month I focused a lot on exercise. I didn't lose any weight, but lost lots of inches. So should I be upset at not making my goal? Goals that focus on actions rather than outcomes work better for me. If my goal for that particular month was " exercise five days a week " , I have a much better chance of making it happen. And if I am consistent with actions like that, eventually physical changes will follow. Oh, in 193 did say she'd go into the difference between goals and intent, but it's not in 194.... > I don't recall that podcast (if you give the number, I'll listen again), but I think goal setting, if put in the context of dreaming, can be an excellent motivator--especially if you visualize the change and " feel it real. " Stepping inside the body or behavior you want can be positive reinforcement. > > Goal setting for me can be tricky, though. It's so easy to say to myself, especially if I've had some success, " I can lose 20 pounds by Christmas if I do ___. " That kind of thinking is how I spent my dieting years, and no good can come from that at all. > > So it might be worth analyzing how goal setting worked for you in the past, with regard to weight loss. If the goal is treated more like a daily affirmation or setting/renewing intent, that could be very empowering, as long as we don't come down to hard on ourselves if we miss a goal. It's the ability to self correct without recrimination that I find more empowering than extremely detailed goals. It had never occurred to be before that I could forgive myself. > > ZZ > > ________________________________ > > To: insideoutweightloss > Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2011 6:13 PM > Subject: Setting Goals... > > > Hello all! > > I've been thinking a lot this past week about the setting goals podcast. suggests that setting weight-loss goals is not necessarily productive. I disagree. I think that setting a goal for myself is motivating and is a way of saying that I want more good stuff (health, well-being, fun...) for myself. I do agree that there are different kinds of goals that we can set, like a goal of learning how eat according to my hunger, but I think that number goals are useful too. Any thoughts on this? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 - you make some great points! I just wanted to emphasize the number on the scale thing again as one pound of muscle is 1/3 the size of one pound of fat .... and I've lost 12 " and two sizes without losing much of any weight due to working out. I would not trade that for a lower number on the scale -- trust me, being smaller in size is wonderful, having less inches is wonderful but being stronger, healthier and feeling good in my own body is so much more than a number on a scale..  ________________________________ To: " insideoutweightloss " <insideoutweightloss > Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2011 1:18 AM Subject: Re: Setting Goals...  What you're saying about having manageable, action - oriented goals in mind, seems way more helpful than 'lose 2 pounds every week' or 'weigh xx amount by xx date.' You can't really control things like that, and then you might feel bad about yourself for not achieving something, even if you've been making good progress in other ways. I haven't gotten up to that podcast yet, but I just sat down yesterday and wrote out a list of goals, so this has been on my mind. I have a number in mind I ultimately want to lose, but found that since I started listening to , the number feels less important. Practical goals (ie: do at least 15 minutes of yoga every morning, plan my meals out each day) are much more important to me.Interestingly, I've dropped roughly 3 sizes, which makes me feel amazing. Yet my weight hasn't gone down as much as I thought it would. It would be counterproductive to think that I've failed because of the number on the scale, when the mirror and the new clothes I've been able to buy tell me that I'm doing well. On a kind of related note - what are peoples' thoughts on rewards? I was thinking something along the lines of 'if I achieve my exercise goals for the week I can buy myself flowers'. Of course the best reward is feeling good and being healthy, but has anybody found that having a nice reward serves as a helpful motivator? ________________________________ To: " insideoutweightloss " <insideoutweightloss > Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2011 4:55 AM Subject: Re: Setting Goals...  In podcast 193, gives examples of goal setting that might be counterproductive. Towards the end of the podcast, she gives an example of a learning goal, a type of goal that goes along more with the type of dreaming you describe. I have also found that goals like " lose 10lbs this month " to be counterproductive, because weight loss isn't necessarily linear. For instance, one month I focused a lot on exercise. I didn't lose any weight, but lost lots of inches. So should I be upset at not making my goal? Goals that focus on actions rather than outcomes work better for me. If my goal for that particular month was " exercise five days a week " , I have a much better chance of making it happen. And if I am consistent with actions like that, eventually physical changes will follow. Oh, in 193 did say she'd go into the difference between goals and intent, but it's not in 194.... > I don't recall that podcast (if you give the number, I'll listen again), but I think goal setting, if put in the context of dreaming, can be an excellent motivator--especially if you visualize the change and " feel it real. " Stepping inside the body or behavior you want can be positive reinforcement. > > Goal setting for me can be tricky, though. It's so easy to say to myself, especially if I've had some success, " I can lose 20 pounds by Christmas if I do ___. " That kind of thinking is how I spent my dieting years, and no good can come from that at all. > > So it might be worth analyzing how goal setting worked for you in the past, with regard to weight loss. If the goal is treated more like a daily affirmation or setting/renewing intent, that could be very empowering, as long as we don't come down to hard on ourselves if we miss a goal. It's the ability to self correct without recrimination that I find more empowering than extremely detailed goals. It had never occurred to be before that I could forgive myself. > > ZZ > > ________________________________ > > To: insideoutweightloss > Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2011 6:13 PM > Subject: Setting Goals... > > > Hello all! > > I've been thinking a lot this past week about the setting goals podcast. suggests that setting weight-loss goals is not necessarily productive. I disagree. I think that setting a goal for myself is motivating and is a way of saying that I want more good stuff (health, well-being, fun...) for myself. I do agree that there are different kinds of goals that we can set, like a goal of learning how eat according to my hunger, but I think that number goals are useful too. Any thoughts on this? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 Weight-loss goals have never worked for me. Instead, I set " no sugar " and stuff like that goals.. which works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Corinna I agree. My goals are the same. I like to think about what I would like to get in my daily diet... A green smoothie, a big bowl of vegetable soup, two fruits, a green salad or a big green juice. I try not to think about what I want to avoid...it sets me up for cravings! I do try to stay away from the white stuff like white rice, flour and sugar and white bread and cereals.They set me up for a day of binging!! Sent from my iPhon On Nov 8, 2011, at 22:23, Corinna L Mulligan wrote: > Weight-loss goals have never worked for me. Instead, I set " no sugar " and > stuff like that goals.. which works. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 .. Yeah.. when I eat white rice during the day you can usually find me trying to lick sugar out of the bottom of my garbage can that night. *sigh*.. (it's hard to be me! hahahaha) Corinna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Corinna exactly! It took me a long time to realise it but now I know. If I eat white rice or a sandwich with white bread it's like i haven't eaten anything within an hour. Actually I am more hungry than before. To: insideoutweightloss Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 4:09 PM Subject: Re: Setting Goals... Â .. Yeah.. when I eat white rice during the day you can usually find me trying to lick sugar out of the bottom of my garbage can that night. *sigh*.. (it's hard to be me! hahahaha) Corinna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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