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Judy, I am so exhausted from reading this post, I need to lie down for awhile! I

was raised by hard working lazy people--meaning that they were very industrious

to get their work done so that in their leisure time they could do, well,

nothing! We never did any thing for fun unless it was a school or family

function. My parents would never dream of volunteering for anything, yet they

sent us off to scouts and school trips and such to get rid of us for awhile. So

other parents led our troops and drove carpool for the trips. I went over the

top when I married and had a family and kept busy, even when I was a

stay-at-home mom. I had a scout troop, drove for everything, and even took in

sick kids of working mothers when the kids were sent home from school. I was a

PTA board member and did tons of stuff for the church. My parents thought I was

crazy and berated me all the time! Like the worst thing I could do is lead a

Brownie troop! Mom's beef was that my

house was not perfectly decorated and immaculately clean at all times. I didn't

wash down walls every Spring and hang laundry on a clothesline to dry. I was a

failure.

 

Now that my kids are grown and gone (except for one who is with us temporarily)

I realize that I married a man who was like my mom. We were so busy doing family

things that I thought he enjoyed, that I never noticed that if he doesn't

absolutely have to do something, he will sleep. No hobbies, no sports, no

exercise--just sleep. I have actually fallen into this pattern, too, except that

I will veg out watching TV or goof off online. I just recently realized that I

have been waiting for him to want to do things, but it's never gonna happen! I

need to get going and get active on my own or vegetate in front of the TV for

the rest of my life. I have tried several times to get things going. I bought

bikes--twice, tennis gear, hiking gear, you name it--I tried to get it started

here. He doesn't get it at all. He is willing to go with me anywhere I want to

go, but he will stand back and not really participate and ask if I'm ready to go

home every few minutes.

So, I have given up on him. I need to find some volunteer opportunities that

will get me off the couch and some fun things to do in our community. (BTW, he

is totally uninterested in trying to change his behavior. He thinks that people

who do things are nuts.)

 

I came to all of this wisdom while working through 's podcasts about

exercise motivation. That woman is amazing! I would never have critically

studied my daily life and relationships if I hadn't listened to her.

 

Thanks, Judy, for this outlet to put these things in words. I am also using this

group as a journal--no written evidence in the house for someone to find! ; )

 

Marcia

 

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Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 9:47 AM

Subject: Re: Best first guess: what's your inner conflict?

 

Interesting question and response. And, I think there is a lesson about myself

in here for me, so I thank you a.

It's funny, I am the exact opposite..I am adopted (at 2 weeks old) by a boring

older couple and was an only child. It was my responsibility to fill my time

and keep myself occupied since I had no siblings. I was often bored because my

parents were overprotective and wouldn't let me do some of the things the other

kids around the neighborhood were doing.

As I gained my freedom as a teen and then into my adulthood (I am 55 now) I

always took on more jobs, tasks, projects, new friends than I had time for. I

never really thought about it before in this way, but I think I was escaping

that never ending childhood boredom. I never gave myself a chance to just " be " .

Okay, fast forward to recent times. 9 yrs ago I moved from a big city to a

tourist town 3 hrs away. Left my friends and a few cousins behind (everyone

else has passed). I lost my stressful corporate america insurance job over 5

years ago and have been trying to reinvent myself ever since. I started my own

little local and internet business, and joined a local woman's group but didn't

make many new close friends until just about 1 1/2 years ago. Since then I have

become crazed and overwhelmed! I volunteer for 3 different organizations, just

finished online school for a social media certification (and want to start a

small biz helping other small businesses), started a blog and support group for

this " journey " I am on, started playing and am passionate about Mah Jongg,

socialize with my new friends a lot, AND am trying to keep up with the little

business I have. Oh yeah, and I volunteer to help friends with their small

business online marketing so

that I am left no time to do my own!

There is absolutely no way I can do all the things I mentioned above, so I must

pick and choose on any given week what I will work on. My IOWL journey (which

includes my blog and support group) is foremost on my schedule because I know I

will be wasting whatever time I have left in this life if I do not get my

health in order. DH insists we keep our little business going (but much of the

work for it is so-o-o-o boring)..

Sorry for so much info, but I think I am using this as my journal. I think you

have helped me discover my " boredom " problem and where it came from. And, how I

am now overcompensating. This is a huge inner conflict for me!

Thanks for listening!

Judy

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Hi All,

I am a lurker but have started reading the book and am actually going to try to

participate after listening to podcasts for a year or so and now starting the

book. I am also 55 (i saw some others are)...I have 15 - 20 pounds to lose, but

i am also quite tall about 5.10.... so its not that super obvious.

But, I actually resent that so much of my psychic energy is wasted on this

battle. I am not sure what I am getting out of the extra weight.

Currently I own my own business which I love. It is very successful, not too too

stressful and I work at home. I have three kids one at college, on is HS and a

special needs son at home who needs a job, but we are working every angle. It is

stressful but usually I cope well. DH works at home too.

Last year I had a health situation, got through many surgeries, and (please

knock on wood) I think I am fine.

I play tennis, walk and am happy to do those things I like...so not sure what

the struggle is...the only think I am getting out of it is gives me a mental

diversion to prevent me of thinking of the existential thing of life, as I

always think well let's deal with the weight first and everything will be so

much better...

Maybe I have hit on the tip of something, but happy to hear any insights. I

appreciate everyone's candor and willingnedd to put them selves out here on the

board. It does not feel so natural to me!

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No problem-whats " DH "

Judy wrote:

>Interesting question and response. And, I think there is a lesson about myself

in here for me, so I thank you a.

>

>It's funny, I am the exact opposite..I am adopted (at 2 weeks old) by a boring

older couple and was an only child. It was my responsibility to fill my time

and keep myself occupied since I had no siblings. I was often bored because my

parents were overprotective and wouldn't let me do some of the things the other

kids around the neighborhood were doing.

>

>As I gained my freedom as a teen and then into my adulthood (I am 55 now) I

always took on more jobs, tasks, projects, new friends than I had time for. I

never really thought about it before in this way, but I think I was escaping

that never ending childhood boredom. I never gave myself a chance to just " be " .

>

>Okay, fast forward to recent times. 9 yrs ago I moved from a big city to a

tourist town 3 hrs away. Left my friends and a few cousins behind (everyone

else has passed). I lost my stressful corporate america insurance job over 5

years ago and have been trying to reinvent myself ever since. I started my own

little local and internet business, and joined a local woman's group but didn't

make many new close friends until just about 1 1/2 years ago. Since then I have

become crazed and overwhelmed! I volunteer for 3 different organizations, just

finished online school for a social media certification (and want to start a

small biz helping other small businesses), started a blog and support group for

this " journey " I am on, started playing and am passionate about Mah Jongg,

socialize with my new friends a lot, AND am trying to keep up with the little

business I have. Oh yeah, and I volunteer to help friends with their small

business online marketing so that I am left no time to do my own!

>

>There is absolutely no way I can do all the things I mentioned above, so I must

pick and choose on any given week what I will work on. My IOWL journey (which

includes my blog and support group) is foremost on my schedule because I know I

will be wasting whatever time I have left in this life if I do not get my

health in order. DH insists we keep our little business going (but much of the

work for it is so-o-o-o boring)..

>

>Sorry for so much info, but I think I am using this as my journal. I think you

have helped me discover my " boredom " problem and where it came from. And, how I

am now overcompensating. This is a huge inner conflict for me!

>

>Thanks for listening!

>

>Judy

>

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Judy --

This is something that scares me as well. My husband is gaining weight

faster than I am, he just got diagnosed with diabetes, and he's making very

little effort to lose it. He gives it a lot of word power, but not much

else. I hate to say it, but I really can't find him attractive right now.

Not that I have a lot of room to talk... but what about when I do? What

if I am attractive to others? Others who are more attractive than my

husband, more successful...

I don't know what will happen, and if I tell him these things it will just

make him scared and suspicious.

> **

>

>

> Marcia, I have been forced to lead my life separate from DH, too. I'll

> write more later, but I think I keep myself heavy to avoid having to make

> the decision whether to make my own life entirely...When I'm fat with no

> confidence it's easier to remain stuck in an unhappy marriage.. :(

>

> Judy

>

>

>

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I seem to be out of some loop-what is DH?

Judy wrote:

>Marcia, I have been forced to lead my life separate from DH, too. I'll write

more later, but I think I keep myself heavy to avoid having to make the decision

whether to make my own life entirely...When I'm fat with no confidence it's

easier to remain stuck in an unhappy marriage.. :(

>

>Judy

>

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In my unhappy marriage, I was 40 lbs.overweight and took a lot of abuse (mental)

because I was afraid to go out on my own. Then I realized that life would

actually be easier with out that third abusive child called my husband. My

weight immediately started dropping, I stayed healthy and happy for years. Then

cancer got the better of me.

Psawyer

Judy wrote:

>Marcia, I have been forced to lead my life separate from DH, too. I'll write

more later, but I think I keep myself heavy to avoid having to make the decision

whether to make my own life entirely...When I'm fat with no confidence it's

easier to remain stuck in an unhappy marriage.. :(

>

>Judy

>

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DH is web " shorthand " for " dear husband. " People use it a lot on message

boards or forums. You might also see DS (dear son), and DD (dear

daughter). Hope that helps!

> **

>

>

> In my unhappy marriage, I was 40 lbs.overweight and took a lot of abuse

> (mental) because I was afraid to go out on my own. Then I realized that

> life would actually be easier with out that third abusive child called my

> husband. My weight immediately started dropping, I stayed healthy and happy

> for years. Then cancer got the better of me.

> Psawyer

>

>

> Judy wrote:

>

> >Marcia, I have been forced to lead my life separate from DH, too. I'll

> write more later, but I think I keep myself heavy to avoid having to make

> the decision whether to make my own life entirely...When I'm fat with no

> confidence it's easier to remain stuck in an unhappy marriage.. :(

> >

> >Judy

> >

>

>

>

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dear husband

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Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 2:27 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Best first guess: what's your inner

conflict?

 

I seem to be out of some loop-what is DH?

Judy wrote:

>Marcia, I have been forced to lead my life separate from DH, too. I'll write

more later, but I think I keep myself heavy to avoid having to make the decision

whether to make my own life entirely...When I'm fat with no confidence it's

easier to remain stuck in an unhappy marriage.. :(

>

>Judy

>

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Dear Husband

> I seem to be out of some loop-what is DH?

>

> Judy wrote:

>

> >Marcia, I have been forced to lead my life separate from DH, too.

> I'll write more later, but I think I keep myself heavy to avoid

> having to make the decision whether to make my own life

> entirely...When I'm fat with no confidence it's easier to remain

> stuck in an unhappy marriage.. :(

> >

> >Judy

> >

>

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Judy

I'm sort of in a Catch-22 situation that I will probably put out there in bits

and pieces. Anyway, for now, I've made the decision to stay. My husband is a

very nice person--everybody loves him, but he was raised like I was where fun

and leisure activities were for idiots who wanted to waste their money. I went

the opposite way, but he is satisfied to repeat his parents' lives. There is no

abuse here, more like numbness. We just lead parallel lives. I choose to be a

genuinely happy person, and I am learning to take better care of myself. It

sounds like I'm being a martyr, but I feel that I owe it to my husband to stand

by him now that he is diabetic and close becoming crippled by a nerve problem

for which he refuses to do his physical therapy. I've taken the Buddhist stance

of becoming detached from the situation, while at the same time gently reminding

him that his health is in his own hands. He chooses to stay obese and take pills

for all his ailments

instead of eating better and getting some exercise. I am no longer going to

wait for him to want to join me. I have plenty of time right now during the day

to get out and have fun. And I'm gonna do it!

I don't think that I ever put that in words before. Thanks for the opportunity!

Marcia

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Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 5:37 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Best first guess: what's your inner

conflict?

 

In my unhappy marriage, I was 40 lbs.overweight and took a lot of abuse (mental)

because I was afraid to go out on my own. Then I realized that life would

actually be easier with out that third abusive child called my husband. My

weight immediately started dropping, I stayed healthy and happy for years. Then

cancer got the better of me.

Psawyer

Judy wrote:

>Marcia, I have been forced to lead my life separate from DH, too. I'll write

more later, but I think I keep myself heavy to avoid having to make the decision

whether to make my own life entirely...When I'm fat with no confidence it's

easier to remain stuck in an unhappy marriage.. :(

>

>Judy

>

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:

Congratulations on taking this big step! I was also nervous about posting the

first time.

b.

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Sent: Sun, January 15, 2012 10:42:05 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Best first guess: what's your inner

conflict?

 

Hi All,

I am a lurker but have started reading the book and am actually going to try to

participate after listening to podcasts for a year or so and now starting the

book. I am also 55 (i saw some others are)...I have 15 - 20 pounds to lose, but

i am also quite tall about 5.10.... so its not that super obvious.

But, I actually resent that so much of my psychic energy is wasted on this

battle. I am not sure what I am getting out of the extra weight.

Currently I own my own business which I love. It is very successful, not too too

stressful and I work at home. I have three kids one at college, on is HS and a

special needs son at home who needs a job, but we are working every angle. It is

stressful but usually I cope well. DH works at home too.

Last year I had a health situation, got through many surgeries, and (please

knock on wood) I think I am fine.

I play tennis, walk and am happy to do those things I like...so not sure what

the struggle is...the only think I am getting out of it is gives me a mental

diversion to prevent me of thinking of the existential thing of life, as I

always think well let's deal with the weight first and everything will be so

much better...

Maybe I have hit on the tip of something, but happy to hear any insights. I

appreciate everyone's candor and willingnedd to put them selves out here on the

board. It does not feel so natural to me!

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> Interesting question and response. And, I think there is a lesson about myself

in here for me, so I thank you a.

>

> It's funny, I am the exact opposite..I am adopted (at 2 weeks old) by a boring

older couple and was an only child.  It was my responsibility to fill my time

and keep myself occupied since I had no siblings.  I was often bored because my

parents were overprotective and wouldn't let me do some of the things the other

kids around the neighborhood were doing.

>

I'm an only child as well. My mom was also overprotective. I never

had a chance to play Little League, for example, even though I *love*

baseball. I used to joke that being an only child sucked, because

there was nobody to play with on rainy days, and nobody else to blame

if something got broken. But unless I've repressed it, I don't really

think I was bored too often. I simply got used to being by myself.

As an adult, though...being single with no prospects takes me back to

my JOKE about being an only child - nobody to play with...

Eldred

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the last one.

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Thanks Eldred.

I too am an only child. I am trying to understand what that means for me. I know

for one thing that it put a lot of pressure on me to fulfill all the

expectations I assumed. They were not loaded on to me, but I drew expectations

to myself and put them on myself.

 

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Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:20:44 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Best first guess: what's your inner

conflict?

 

> Interesting question and response. And, I think there is a lesson about myself

in here for me, so I thank you a.

>

> It's funny, I am the exact opposite..I am adopted (at 2 weeks old) by a boring

older couple and was an only child.  It was my responsibility to fill my time

and keep myself occupied since I had no siblings.  I was often bored because my

parents were overprotective and wouldn't let me do some of the things the other

kids around the neighborhood were doing.

>

I'm an only child as well. My mom was also overprotective. I never

had a chance to play Little League, for example, even though I *love*

baseball. I used to joke that being an only child sucked, because

there was nobody to play with on rainy days, and nobody else to blame

if something got broken. But unless I've repressed it, I don't really

think I was bored too often. I simply got used to being by myself.

As an adult, though...being single with no prospects takes me back to

my JOKE about being an only child - nobody to play with...

Eldred

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You can't start the next chapter of your life if you keep re-reading

the last one.

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Thanks

Amelia Ramstead wrote:

>DH is web " shorthand " for " dear husband. " People use it a lot on message

>boards or forums. You might also see DS (dear son), and DD (dear

>daughter). Hope that helps!

>

>

>

>> **

>>

>>

>> In my unhappy marriage, I was 40 lbs.overweight and took a lot of abuse

>> (mental) because I was afraid to go out on my own. Then I realized that

>> life would actually be easier with out that third abusive child called my

>> husband. My weight immediately started dropping, I stayed healthy and happy

>> for years. Then cancer got the better of me.

>> Psawyer

>>

>>

>> Judy wrote:

>>

>> >Marcia, I have been forced to lead my life separate from DH, too. I'll

>> write more later, but I think I keep myself heavy to avoid having to make

>> the decision whether to make my own life entirely...When I'm fat with no

>> confidence it's easier to remain stuck in an unhappy marriage.. :(

>> >

>> >Judy

>> >

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

>--

>Amelia Ramstead

>http://www.linkedin.com/pub/amelia-ramstead/2b/25b/601

>http://www.ameeramstead.com

>http://ameliaramstead.blogspot.com

>www.twitter.com/ameliaramstead

>

>

>

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Marcia-that was from a, not Judy. Sorry if it sounded like I was

encouraging you to leave him. Its good to keep looking at yout situation. The

two of you werr going to grow old together some day, it sounds like he's

deciding to go first. I like your decision not to jump into old age just yet.

Youve got many years yet to enjoy a healthy body if you choose to.

Get out and have some fun.

Psawyer

Marcia Anzur wrote:

>Judy

>I'm sort of in a Catch-22 situation that I will probably put out there in bits

and pieces. Anyway, for now, I've made the decision to stay. My husband is a

very nice person--everybody loves him, but he was raised like I was where fun

and leisure activities were for idiots who wanted to waste their money. I went

the opposite way, but he is satisfied to repeat his parents' lives. There is no

abuse here, more like numbness. We just lead parallel lives. I choose to be a

genuinely happy person, and I am learning to take better care of myself. It

sounds like I'm being a martyr, but I feel that I owe it to my husband to stand

by him now that he is diabetic and close becoming crippled by a nerve problem

for which he refuses to do his physical therapy. I've taken the Buddhist stance

of becoming detached from the situation, while at the same time gently reminding

him that his health is in his own hands. He chooses to stay obese and take pills

for all his ailments

> instead of eating better and getting some exercise. I am no longer going to

wait for him to want to join me. I have plenty of time right now during the day

to get out and have fun. And I'm gonna do it!

>I don't think that I ever put that in words before. Thanks for the opportunity!

>Marcia

>

>

>________________________________

>

>To: insideoutweightloss

>Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 5:37 PM

>Subject: Re: Re: Best first guess: what's your inner

conflict?

>

>

>

> 

>

>In my unhappy marriage, I was 40 lbs.overweight and took a lot of abuse

(mental) because I was afraid to go out on my own. Then I realized that life

would actually be easier with out that third abusive child called my husband. My

weight immediately started dropping, I stayed healthy and happy for years. Then

cancer got the better of me.

>Psawyer

>

>Judy wrote:

>

>>Marcia, I have been forced to lead my life separate from DH, too. I'll write

more later, but I think I keep myself heavy to avoid having to make the decision

whether to make my own life entirely...When I'm fat with no confidence it's

easier to remain stuck in an unhappy marriage.. :(

>>

>>Judy

>>

>

>

>

>

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> Thanks Eldred.

>

> I too am an only child. I am trying to understand what that means for me. I

know for one thing that it put a lot of pressure on me to fulfill all the

expectations I assumed. They were not loaded on to me, but I drew expectations

to myself and put them on myself.

>

>

>

The caption for my life is " Unrealized Potential " I had so many

opportunities as a kid, and never followed through on them. I was

very good with music, got pretty proficient at French, and was the

best tennis player in my circle of friends, even through high school.

Never did much with ANY of those skills... :-(

Eldred

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a, you're right, and I remind him of that often. He seems to do whatever he

can to live the shortest life possible. I spent a lot of emotional energy over

that, but I had to let it go. He had a rough upbringing, but won't even consider

that it affects him today. He believes that if a person can get and keep a job

and not drink himself into a stupor everynight, he is just fine. If he thinks

that a food is healthy, he'll make a fuss about having to eat it, but I've told

him to eat whatever the hell he wants for breakfast and lunch but, since he can

walk in the door and have a meal to eat every evening, he better just eat

whatever I put on the table without complaint.

Anyway, the quest for fun begins! Right after the laundry is done! Livin' the

dream!

Marcia

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Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 11:09 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Best first guess: what's your inner

conflict?

 

Marcia-that was from a, not Judy. Sorry if it sounded like I was

encouraging you to leave him. Its good to keep looking at yout situation. The

two of you werr going to grow old together some day, it sounds like he's

deciding to go first. I like your decision not to jump into old age just yet.

Youve got many years yet to enjoy a healthy body if you choose to.

Get out and have some fun.

Psawyer

Marcia Anzur wrote:

>Judy

>I'm sort of in a Catch-22 situation that I will probably put out there in bits

and pieces. Anyway, for now, I've made the decision to stay. My husband is a

very nice person--everybody loves him, but he was raised like I was where fun

and leisure activities were for idiots who wanted to waste their money. I went

the opposite way, but he is satisfied to repeat his parents' lives. There is no

abuse here, more like numbness. We just lead parallel lives. I choose to be a

genuinely happy person, and I am learning to take better care of myself. It

sounds like I'm being a martyr, but I feel that I owe it to my husband to stand

by him now that he is diabetic and close becoming crippled by a nerve problem

for which he refuses to do his physical therapy. I've taken the Buddhist stance

of becoming detached from the situation, while at the same time gently reminding

him that his health is in his own hands. He chooses to stay obese and take pills

for all his ailments

> instead of eating better and getting some exercise. I am no longer going to

wait for him to want to join me. I have plenty of time right now during the day

to get out and have fun. And I'm gonna do it!

>I don't think that I ever put that in words before. Thanks for the opportunity!

>Marcia

>

>

>________________________________

>

>To: insideoutweightloss

>Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 5:37 PM

>Subject: Re: Re: Best first guess: what's your inner

conflict?

>

>

>

> 

>

>In my unhappy marriage, I was 40 lbs.overweight and took a lot of abuse

(mental) because I was afraid to go out on my own. Then I realized that life

would actually be easier with out that third abusive child called my husband. My

weight immediately started dropping, I stayed healthy and happy for years. Then

cancer got the better of me.

>Psawyer

>

>Judy wrote:

>

>>Marcia, I have been forced to lead my life separate from DH, too. I'll write

more later, but I think I keep myself heavy to avoid having to make the decision

whether to make my own life entirely...When I'm fat with no confidence it's

easier to remain stuck in an unhappy marriage.. :(

>>

>>Judy

>>

>

>

>

>

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Eldred

I recently read an article about children who are very intelligent and/or

artistically gifted often fail to reach their potential because they are

programed to believe that things will be easy for them, and no one thinks to

teach them discernment and problem solving. I see that in my son who was a

National Merit Scholar, but never fulfilled that potential. He did well in

college, but was unfocused about his future career, and ended up staying in

school until he got his PhD., working as a TA to support himself. He loves

teaching, but he never learned to love the research and publishing part of

teaching at the college lever, so he never got the job offers from the colleges

that he wanted. He taught at a small college for awhile, but the college was

having financial trouble, and they decided to cut back on Math teachers, so he

was out. Now, he is teaching at the community college where I am an adjunct

instructor, and he is back living here with Mom and

Dad until he gets settled in to this area.

I tell you this so that you know that you are not alone in feeling that you have

let yourself down. It is a common problem these days. We grew up with so many

more choices that our parents did, yet that doesn't make it any easier to live

if we don't focus and develop our talents in a way that will allow us to work at

a career that uses our gifts and gives us a sense of mission in our work.

Marcia

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To: insideoutweightloss

Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 12:10 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Best first guess: what's your inner

conflict?

 

> Thanks Eldred.

>

> I too am an only child. I am trying to understand what that means for me. I

know for one thing that it put a lot of pressure on me to fulfill all the

expectations I assumed. They were not loaded on to me, but I drew expectations

to myself and put them on myself.

>

>

>

The caption for my life is " Unrealized Potential " I had so many

opportunities as a kid, and never followed through on them. I was

very good with music, got pretty proficient at French, and was the

best tennis player in my circle of friends, even through high school.

Never did much with ANY of those skills... :-(

Eldred

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You can't start the next chapter of your life if you keep re-reading

the last one.

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That rings true for me, as well. I was not an only child (I have a younger

brother), but I was born to an only child, and my mother lived a lot of her life

through me. I was never so much my own person as much as a replica of mom.

Every time I got good at something, I quit. I became bilingual in Spanish and

then decided to do nothing with it. I began participating in piano competitions

(solo and duets--Clementi and Bach were my thing) and then just stopped. I have

a piano that's been sitting in my house for years, unused. I made both the Latin

and National Honor Societies in high school and quit within the year, got

accepted at both and St. academies and wouldn't go; I didn't even

apply to anything ivy (and I definitely would have been scholarship material and

the snob appeal of the schools would have opened more doors) but went to the

local university where I had a spectacularly unremarkable time, skipping most of

my classes and rarely cracking a book. And I still got good grades, so

apparently I am smart. And that's just me. My brother had even worse problems,

and he's brilliant--genius for sure. He struggled well into his 40s before he

finally realized his dream.

So there's something buried back there ... I just haven't unearthed it yet, and

sometimes I am not sure how practical it would be to bring it to light.

I admit I often think of what my life might have been like had I not rejected

the gifts that were offered to me and the ones I was born with.

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Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 12:10 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Best first guess: what's your inner

conflict?

 

The caption for my life is " Unrealized Potential " I had so many

opportunities as a kid, and never followed through on them. I was

very good with music, got pretty proficient at French, and was the

best tennis player in my circle of friends, even through high school.

Never did much with ANY of those skills... :-(

Eldred

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Thanks Eldred.

Too many times I have less-than-half joked that my headstone will read " He Had

Such Potential. " I think I want a new epitaph. Do I want to look back on my

whole life with as much disappointment as I now have? Should life itself be such

a let-down? Sex certainly is. I love making music, and I love teaching it. That

is where I get my satisfaction and my joy. Family is stress, I don't have time

to maintain friendships in the scramble of living, and there is always so much

month left at the end of the money.

I am trying to make some changes. If I can get one of these income supplements

happening it will help. I just need to make a good deal more money and things

will get better. The biggest barrier currently between my wife and I is the lack

of income. She resents it and I regret it. I don't seem to be able to get enough

students and enough school days to support 6 people. My oldest son lost his job

again and is hoarding all his money for himself. He can't afford to move out

until he gets a job and I can't afford to feed him.

In the middle of all this I am trying to NOT turn to food as an escape or a

stress relief or a comfort. The urge is there to sit around eating crackers and

milk but I can't afford milk so that helps. What I am trying to do is to

meditate, and listen, and be open to what options and opportunities I am

missing. I want to keep teaching. I love it, but I need more money from it. I

raised my rates on January 1 but that will not do it, I need more students and

an alternative revenue stream.

 

Carlton Larsen, Ba, Bgp

Freelance Musician

426 Pinehouse Drive

Saskatoon Sk

S7K4X5

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Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 11:10:56 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Best first guess: what's your inner

conflict?

 

> Thanks Eldred.

>

> I too am an only child. I am trying to understand what that means for me. I

know for one thing that it put a lot of pressure on me to fulfill all the

expectations I assumed. They were not loaded on to me, but I drew expectations

to myself and put them on myself.

>

>

>

The caption for my life is " Unrealized Potential " I had so many

opportunities as a kid, and never followed through on them. I was

very good with music, got pretty proficient at French, and was the

best tennis player in my circle of friends, even through high school.

Never did much with ANY of those skills... :-(

Eldred

--

You can't start the next chapter of your life if you keep re-reading

the last one.

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Oooo, I get that. I was born with so much more potential than I have explored.

Yes I think unburrying your inner self has great practicality. You will better

understand what inspires you. It opens avenues for moments of joy.

skwpt wrote:

>That rings true for me, as well. I was not an only child (I have a younger

brother), but I was born to an only child, and my mother lived a lot of her life

through me. I was never so much my own person as much as a replica of mom.

>

>

>Every time I got good at something, I quit. I became bilingual in Spanish and

then decided to do nothing with it. I began participating in piano competitions

(solo and duets--Clementi and Bach were my thing) and then just stopped. I have

a piano that's been sitting in my house for years, unused. I made both the Latin

and National Honor Societies in high school and quit within the year, got

accepted at both and St. academies and wouldn't go; I didn't even

apply to anything ivy (and I definitely would have been scholarship material and

the snob appeal of the schools would have opened more doors) but went to the

local university where I had a spectacularly unremarkable time, skipping most of

my classes and rarely cracking a book. And I still got good grades, so

apparently I am smart. And that's just me. My brother had even worse problems,

and he's brilliant--genius for sure. He struggled well into his 40s before he

finally realized his dream.

> So there's something buried back there ... I just haven't unearthed it yet,

and sometimes I am not sure how practical it would be to bring it to light.

>

>

>I admit I often think of what my life might have been like had I not rejected

the gifts that were offered to me and the ones I was born with.

>

>

>

>________________________________

>

>To: insideoutweightloss

>Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 12:10 AM

>Subject: Re: Re: Best first guess: what's your inner

conflict?

>

>

> 

>

>The caption for my life is " Unrealized Potential " I had so many

>opportunities as a kid, and never followed through on them. I was

>very good with music, got pretty proficient at French, and was the

>best tennis player in my circle of friends, even through high school.

>Never did much with ANY of those skills... :-(

>

>Eldred

>

>

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I haven't ventured out much on my own since I figured out that he was NEVER

going to want to do anything. We've lived here in SC for ten years, and I still

struggle to make friends to do things with. My daughter lives in a neighboring

town, and we often go shopping and stuff, but I really need some friends nearer

my age. The main problem is that, while I live a very conservative life, I am a

political and social liberal, and, while I am a spiritual seeker, I no longer

want or need to be part of a church community. Almost every woman my age who I

have met is very conservative and religious, or at least has her church as the

hub of her existence. When I do meet new people, the first thing they do is

invite me to their church, which I realize is very flattering, but when I beg

off, they back off. I've given up stressing about it and just let that be for

now. I'll just be active in the community in ways that are compatible with my

views, and if I make

friends, fine, if not, then at least I've done some good for somebody, and

that's enough for now.

Enjoy your cruise! I might take one when I visit my daughter in Germany later

this year. I think a Mediterranean cruise would let me visit lots of countries

while having a fabulous place to stay every night!

Marcia

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Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 7:15 PM

Subject: Re: Best first guess: what's your inner conflict?

 

Marcia, our situations have many similarities. I have made the same decision

for now. Mine has depression/anxiety and has no friends, no interests and no

life other than sports. I am fun loving and have many new friends.. I go out

with and travel with friends as he stays home. I can't imagine I'll do this

forever, especially as I blossom.. we'll see.. Best of luck to us!

Judy

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Marcia, I don’t know if this is an option or not……I have been in a 12 step

group called Al-Anon since 1993 and have found some of the most loving and

caring people there. I’m not suggesting you go to Al-Anon if that doesn’t

fit but there are many 12 step groups out there that you might find one that

does. I have also gone to OA and found the same thing. I have made many

friends from both of those groups. Perhaps that might be an option for you.

☺

" Sometimes God allows us to see the miracle. Sometimes God allows us to BE the

miracle. "

From: insideoutweightloss

[mailto:insideoutweightloss ] On Behalf Of Marcia Anzur

Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 8:53 AM

To: insideoutweightloss

Subject: Re: Re: Best first guess: what's your inner

conflict?

I haven't ventured out much on my own since I figured out that he was NEVER

going to want to do anything. We've lived here in SC for ten years, and I still

struggle to make friends to do things with. My daughter lives in a neighboring

town, and we often go shopping and stuff, but I really need some friends nearer

my age. The main problem is that, while I live a very conservative life, I am a

political and social liberal, and, while I am a spiritual seeker, I no longer

want or need to be part of a church community. Almost every woman my age who I

have met is very conservative and religious, or at least has her church as the

hub of her existence. When I do meet new people, the first thing they do is

invite me to their church, which I realize is very flattering, but when I beg

off, they back off. I've given up stressing about it and just let that be for

now. I'll just be active in the community in ways that are compatible with my

views, and if I make

friends, fine, if not, then at least I've done some good for somebody, and

that's enough for now.

Enjoy your cruise! I might take one when I visit my daughter in Germany later

this year. I think a Mediterranean cruise would let me visit lots of countries

while having a fabulous place to stay every night!

Marcia

________________________________

From: Judy <cbi5040@...<mailto:cbi5040%40yahoo.com>>

To:

insideoutweightloss <mailto:insideoutweightloss%40yahoogroups.com\

>

Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 7:15 PM

Subject: Re: Best first guess: what's your inner conflict?

Marcia, our situations have many similarities. I have made the same decision for

now. Mine has depression/anxiety and has no friends, no interests and no life

other than sports. I am fun loving and have many new friends.. I go out with and

travel with friends as he stays home. I can't imagine I'll do this forever,

especially as I blossom.. we'll see.. Best of luck to us!

Judy

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Thanks, . That is something I hadn't considered. I will check around and

see what I can find.

Marcia

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Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 11:08 AM

Subject: RE: Re: Best first guess: what's your inner

conflict?

 

Marcia, I don’t know if this is an option or not……I have been in a 12 step

group called Al-Anon since 1993 and have found some of the most loving and

caring people there. I’m not suggesting you go to Al-Anon if that doesn’t

fit but there are many 12 step groups out there that you might find one that

does. I have also gone to OA and found the same thing. I have made many

friends from both of those groups. Perhaps that might be an option for you.

☺

" Sometimes God allows us to see the miracle. Sometimes God allows us to BE the

miracle. "

From: insideoutweightloss

[mailto:insideoutweightloss ] On Behalf Of Marcia Anzur

Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 8:53 AM

To: insideoutweightloss

Subject: Re: Re: Best first guess: what's your inner

conflict?

I haven't ventured out much on my own since I figured out that he was NEVER

going to want to do anything. We've lived here in SC for ten years, and I still

struggle to make friends to do things with. My daughter lives in a neighboring

town, and we often go shopping and stuff, but I really need some friends nearer

my age. The main problem is that, while I live a very conservative life, I am a

political and social liberal, and, while I am a spiritual seeker, I no longer

want or need to be part of a church community. Almost every woman my age who I

have met is very conservative and religious, or at least has her church as the

hub of her existence. When I do meet new people, the first thing they do is

invite me to their church, which I realize is very flattering, but when I beg

off, they back off. I've given up stressing about it and just let that be for

now. I'll just be active in the community in ways that are compatible with my

views, and if I make

friends, fine, if not, then at least I've done some good for somebody, and

that's enough for now.

Enjoy your cruise! I might take one when I visit my daughter in Germany later

this year. I think a Mediterranean cruise would let me visit lots of countries

while having a fabulous place to stay every night!

Marcia

________________________________

From: Judy <cbi5040@...<mailto:cbi5040%40yahoo.com>>

To:

insideoutweightloss <mailto:insideoutweightloss%40yahoogroups.com\

>

Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 7:15 PM

Subject: Re: Best first guess: what's your inner conflict?

Marcia, our situations have many similarities. I have made the same decision for

now. Mine has depression/anxiety and has no friends, no interests and no life

other than sports. I am fun loving and have many new friends.. I go out with and

travel with friends as he stays home. I can't imagine I'll do this forever,

especially as I blossom.. we'll see.. Best of luck to us!

Judy

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HHaaaaaaahaaa ....love that one :-)

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On Jan 17, 2012, at 21:13, Corinna L Mulligan

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> DH can mean 'dear husband' or 'dickhead' depending on how he's acting at

> the moment. *snicker*

>

>

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