Guest guest Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 Perhaps you could try to understand the positive intent of your overeating. What are you getting from it? Maybe you use food to relax, or to reward yourself, or to protect yourself and give yourself a sense of security. If you find other ways to honor these positive intents, you will find yourself relying less on food to provide the feelings of relaxation, reward, security, etc. One of the early podcasts (5?) covers Yo Yo Dieting and Positive Intent. Podcasts 19 - 25 talks about uncovering Limiting Beliefs and changing them to Empowering Beliefs. (I might not have the podcast numbers exactly correct, but they're in the area.) b. ________________________________ To: insideoutweightloss Sent: Wed, March 28, 2012 9:56:51 AM Subject: self sabotage  Every time I loose a couple pounds or start feeling looser in my clothes, I start eating more or eating more sweets and regain a pound or two.....I feel like a yoyo. I am trying to find the limited belief(s) that causes me to do that and so far am unable. What causes this self sabotaging? Any idea? Help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:56 AM, weightrelease65 wrote: > Every time I loose a couple pounds or start feeling looser in my clothes, I start eating more or eating more sweets and regain a pound or two.....I feel like a yoyo. I am trying to find the limited belief(s) that causes me to do that and so far am unable. What causes this self sabotaging? Any idea? Help. > > > I had the same thing happen late last year. I've been near 215 for a long time. But at one point, I was cooking more at home, and cutting down on fast food. I got down to about 204. I thought, " That's cool - I can finally get below 200 in a few weeks. " So what did I do that weekend? Pigged out, and went back up to about 210. And eventually got back to 215, which is NOT a good weight for me. Weird... Eldred -- Raising money for Make-a-Wish! Donation page at http://wam300.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 Ditto ! It's a very frustrating thing. Even the past month when I found renee podcast I felt my body slimming down and got very excited. I read through the book quickly and still felt good.then wouldn't you know I started binging more than I had been and am back in the Sam place. Now I'm going throng the book slowly and weekly as intended and loving and accepting myself at this weight..while trying to figure out my limiting beliefs and positive intent for being at this weight.. > > Every time I loose a couple pounds or start feeling looser in my clothes, I start eating more or eating more sweets and regain a pound or two.....I feel like a yoyo. I am trying to find the limited belief(s) that causes me to do that and so far am unable. What causes this self sabotaging? Any idea? Help. > > > > > > > > I had the same thing happen late last year. I've been near 215 for a > long time. But at one point, I was cooking more at home, and cutting > down on fast food. I got down to about 204. I thought, " That's cool > - I can finally get below 200 in a few weeks. " So what did I do that > weekend? Pigged out, and went back up to about 210. And eventually > got back to 215, which is NOT a good weight for me. Weird... > > Eldred > -- > Raising money for Make-a-Wish! Donation page at http://wam300.org > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 Good question . I am at a point where I am stuck too. I am not sure if it is a comfort in stress thing, which is what it feels like, or if it is just the old fear of being attractive. I do know that there was a strong element of " fat as adultery repellent " that I was glued to at my heaviest. I gained weight out of sheer fear. I did not trust myself to look half way nice. I may be cycling back through that at my current weight. Last time I lost a bunch of weight, I did end up having an affair. Mind you at the time I was also dealing with stress in a highly destructive way, damaging my moral compass and my perspectives and standards by self-soothing with pornography. I am dealing with that addictive behaviour much more effectively now though. I may need to develop more of the helpful stress relief tools I have found, or I may have to be more intentional about USING them consistently and naturally before I can feel safe losing the rest of the weight. This afternoon I plan to go for a nice long walk. That is a literal and figurative step in the right direction. Once I can afford it, I would like to buy another unicycle. I enjoyed practicing that and was just getting going on it, but gave it to my son. He rides it well and uses it to commute to class where he lives. Giving it away may have been a bit of subconscious self-sabotage.  Carlton Larsen, Ba, Bgp Freelance Musician 426 Pinehouse Drive Saskatoon Sk S7K4X5 ________________________________ To: insideoutweightloss Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 8:56:51 AM Subject: self sabotage  Every time I loose a couple pounds or start feeling looser in my clothes, I start eating more or eating more sweets and regain a pound or two.....I feel like a yoyo. I am trying to find the limited belief(s) that causes me to do that and so far am unable. What causes this self sabotaging? Any idea? Help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 The same thing had been happening to me for a LONG time (always before an event - i.e., every year my mother and I go to Florida and I always try to shape up and slim down before we go, but I used to, without fail, sabotage myself about a month before we went in April after being very healthy since January) - and I think I finally figured out why I acted the way I did. I think it was a fear of success - well, not of success itself, but a fear that if I kept my healthy habits up until the time I went on vacation, I would *still* be disappointed in myself. For me, the positive intent was not to be disappointed if my BEST efforts didn't get my body to where I wanted it. It almost gave me an excuse to hate my body, in a strange way. Hope that makes sense, and hope it helps! ~Khiri On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Carlton Larsen wrote: > ** > > > Good question . > > I am at a point where I am stuck too. I am not sure if it is a comfort in > stress thing, which is what it feels like, or if it is just the old fear of > being attractive. I do know that there was a strong element of " fat as > adultery repellent " that I was glued to at my heaviest. I gained weight out > of sheer fear. I did not trust myself to look half way nice. I may be > cycling back through that at my current weight. Last time I lost a bunch of > weight, I did end up having an affair. Mind you at the time I was also > dealing with stress in a highly destructive way, damaging my moral compass > and my perspectives and standards by self-soothing with pornography. I am > dealing with that addictive behaviour much more effectively now though. > > I may need to develop more of the helpful stress relief tools I have > found, or I may have to be more intentional about USING them consistently > and naturally before I can feel safe losing the rest of the weight. This > afternoon I plan to go for a nice long walk. That is a literal and > figurative step in the right direction. Once I can afford it, I would like > to buy another unicycle. I enjoyed practicing that and was just getting > going on it, but gave it to my son. He rides it well and uses it to commute > to class where he lives. Giving it away may have been a bit of subconscious > self-sabotage. > > > Carlton Larsen, Ba, Bgp > Freelance Musician > 426 Pinehouse Drive > Saskatoon Sk > S7K4X5 > > > ________________________________ > > To: insideoutweightloss > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 8:56:51 AM > Subject: self sabotage > > > > Every time I loose a couple pounds or start feeling looser in my clothes, > I start eating more or eating more sweets and regain a pound or two.....I > feel like a yoyo. I am trying to find the limited belief(s) that causes me > to do that and so far am unable. What causes this self sabotaging? Any > idea? Help. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 It's different for everyone. Are you writing things down? I didn't think it would help that much, but it really does. Keep digging. ________________________________ To: insideoutweightloss Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 9:56 AM Subject: self sabotage  Every time I loose a couple pounds or start feeling looser in my clothes, I start eating more or eating more sweets and regain a pound or two.....I feel like a yoyo. I am trying to find the limited belief(s) that causes me to do that and so far am unable. What causes this self sabotaging? Any idea? Help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 Carlton, you have such good insights about yourself and you are so honest with your feelings. This will all help to move you forward. ________________________________ To: " insideoutweightloss " <insideoutweightloss > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 1:56 PM Subject: Re: self sabotage  Good question . I am at a point where I am stuck too. I am not sure if it is a comfort in stress thing, which is what it feels like, or if it is just the old fear of being attractive. I do know that there was a strong element of " fat as adultery repellent " that I was glued to at my heaviest. I gained weight out of sheer fear. I did not trust myself to look half way nice. I may be cycling back through that at my current weight. Last time I lost a bunch of weight, I did end up having an affair. Mind you at the time I was also dealing with stress in a highly destructive way, damaging my moral compass and my perspectives and standards by self-soothing with pornography. I am dealing with that addictive behaviour much more effectively now though. I may need to develop more of the helpful stress relief tools I have found, or I may have to be more intentional about USING them consistently and naturally before I can feel safe losing the rest of the weight. This afternoon I plan to go for a nice long walk. That is a literal and figurative step in the right direction. Once I can afford it, I would like to buy another unicycle. I enjoyed practicing that and was just getting going on it, but gave it to my son. He rides it well and uses it to commute to class where he lives. Giving it away may have been a bit of subconscious self-sabotage.  Carlton Larsen, Ba, Bgp Freelance Musician 426 Pinehouse Drive Saskatoon Sk S7K4X5 ________________________________ To: insideoutweightloss Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 8:56:51 AM Subject: self sabotage  Every time I loose a couple pounds or start feeling looser in my clothes, I start eating more or eating more sweets and regain a pound or two.....I feel like a yoyo. I am trying to find the limited belief(s) that causes me to do that and so far am unable. What causes this self sabotaging? Any idea? Help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 Good point. I'm going on a beach vacation in June and I was going to be at goal by then. I've lost 10 lbs., but without some crazy dieting it isn't probable that I'll be at goal. I'm working on being happy getting part of it off and losing the rest in a sensible way. I usually feel so unhappy and disappointed in myself if I have an " event " and I don't look the way I think I should. I'm really trying to be less hard on myself and to appreciate the progress I've made so far. ________________________________ To: insideoutweightloss Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 2:40 PM Subject: Re: self sabotage  The same thing had been happening to me for a LONG time (always before an event - i.e., every year my mother and I go to Florida and I always try to shape up and slim down before we go, but I used to, without fail, sabotage myself about a month before we went in April after being very healthy since January) - and I think I finally figured out why I acted the way I did. I think it was a fear of success - well, not of success itself, but a fear that if I kept my healthy habits up until the time I went on vacation, I would *still* be disappointed in myself. For me, the positive intent was not to be disappointed if my BEST efforts didn't get my body to where I wanted it. It almost gave me an excuse to hate my body, in a strange way. Hope that makes sense, and hope it helps! ~Khiri On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Carlton Larsen wrote: > ** > > > Good question . > > I am at a point where I am stuck too. I am not sure if it is a comfort in > stress thing, which is what it feels like, or if it is just the old fear of > being attractive. I do know that there was a strong element of " fat as > adultery repellent " that I was glued to at my heaviest. I gained weight out > of sheer fear. I did not trust myself to look half way nice. I may be > cycling back through that at my current weight. Last time I lost a bunch of > weight, I did end up having an affair. Mind you at the time I was also > dealing with stress in a highly destructive way, damaging my moral compass > and my perspectives and standards by self-soothing with pornography. I am > dealing with that addictive behaviour much more effectively now though. > > I may need to develop more of the helpful stress relief tools I have > found, or I may have to be more intentional about USING them consistently > and naturally before I can feel safe losing the rest of the weight. This > afternoon I plan to go for a nice long walk. That is a literal and > figurative step in the right direction. Once I can afford it, I would like > to buy another unicycle. I enjoyed practicing that and was just getting > going on it, but gave it to my son. He rides it well and uses it to commute > to class where he lives. Giving it away may have been a bit of subconscious > self-sabotage. > > > Carlton Larsen, Ba, Bgp > Freelance Musician > 426 Pinehouse Drive > Saskatoon Sk > S7K4X5 > > > ________________________________ > > To: insideoutweightloss > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 8:56:51 AM > Subject: self sabotage > > > > Every time I loose a couple pounds or start feeling looser in my clothes, > I start eating more or eating more sweets and regain a pound or two.....I > feel like a yoyo. I am trying to find the limited belief(s) that causes me > to do that and so far am unable. What causes this self sabotaging? Any > idea? Help. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 Hi Kim. Gratitude is very powerful and when I can do it, it helps me stay more positive and away from the self-soothing that food so often can be. Sounds like you have good plans to be grateful and successful.  Carlton Larsen, Ba, Bgp Freelance Musician 426 Pinehouse Drive Saskatoon Sk S7K4X5 ________________________________ To: " insideoutweightloss " <insideoutweightloss > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 5:55:21 PM Subject: Re: self sabotage  Good point. I'm going on a beach vacation in June and I was going to be at goal by then. I've lost 10 lbs., but without some crazy dieting it isn't probable that I'll be at goal. I'm working on being happy getting part of it off and losing the rest in a sensible way. I usually feel so unhappy and disappointed in myself if I have an " event " and I don't look the way I think I should. I'm really trying to be less hard on myself and to appreciate the progress I've made so far. ________________________________ To: insideoutweightloss Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 2:40 PM Subject: Re: self sabotage  The same thing had been happening to me for a LONG time (always before an event - i.e., every year my mother and I go to Florida and I always try to shape up and slim down before we go, but I used to, without fail, sabotage myself about a month before we went in April after being very healthy since January) - and I think I finally figured out why I acted the way I did. I think it was a fear of success - well, not of success itself, but a fear that if I kept my healthy habits up until the time I went on vacation, I would *still* be disappointed in myself. For me, the positive intent was not to be disappointed if my BEST efforts didn't get my body to where I wanted it. It almost gave me an excuse to hate my body, in a strange way. Hope that makes sense, and hope it helps! ~Khiri On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Carlton Larsen wrote: > ** > > > Good question . > > I am at a point where I am stuck too. I am not sure if it is a comfort in > stress thing, which is what it feels like, or if it is just the old fear of > being attractive. I do know that there was a strong element of " fat as > adultery repellent " that I was glued to at my heaviest. I gained weight out > of sheer fear. I did not trust myself to look half way nice. I may be > cycling back through that at my current weight. Last time I lost a bunch of > weight, I did end up having an affair. Mind you at the time I was also > dealing with stress in a highly destructive way, damaging my moral compass > and my perspectives and standards by self-soothing with pornography. I am > dealing with that addictive behaviour much more effectively now though. > > I may need to develop more of the helpful stress relief tools I have > found, or I may have to be more intentional about USING them consistently > and naturally before I can feel safe losing the rest of the weight. This > afternoon I plan to go for a nice long walk. That is a literal and > figurative step in the right direction. Once I can afford it, I would like > to buy another unicycle. I enjoyed practicing that and was just getting > going on it, but gave it to my son. He rides it well and uses it to commute > to class where he lives. Giving it away may have been a bit of subconscious > self-sabotage. > > > Carlton Larsen, Ba, Bgp > Freelance Musician > 426 Pinehouse Drive > Saskatoon Sk > S7K4X5 > > > ________________________________ > > To: insideoutweightloss > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 8:56:51 AM > Subject: self sabotage > > > > Every time I loose a couple pounds or start feeling looser in my clothes, > I start eating more or eating more sweets and regain a pound or two.....I > feel like a yoyo. I am trying to find the limited belief(s) that causes me > to do that and so far am unable. What causes this self sabotaging? Any > idea? Help. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2012 Report Share Posted March 30, 2012 I had a revelation last week about my sabotaging. I've lost most of the weight I wanted to, but the last half stone just evades me and a put a bit back on, so it is more than half a stone to go. Pretty annoying after at least a year being at this point. I had a fear that I too would find that at goal there were other things to deal with. I genuinely couldn't think what this would be though and I was concerned there might be a hidden deep dark secret. And then suddenly I saw it was the opposite. Without the " being a bit overweight " I would have actually have a totally fabulous life and then I would feel really guilty. I have a lovely home, job, husband, family, enough money, my health, great friends, rewarding hobby but other people around me don't have all those things or even half of them. While I have the weight thing, life isn't perfect and I can look them in the face about all the other lucky lovely things I have in my life. I have told myself it was ok to have all of that. I just was very lucky and was grateful for it all, not taking it for granted and arrogant. Since then the pounds are slipping away again and it is easy once more. Who knows I might make it this time. I have set my intent to enjoy it anyway. Viv > > > ** > > > > > > Good question . > > > > I am at a point where I am stuck too. I am not sure if it is a comfort in > > stress thing, which is what it feels like, or if it is just the old fear of > > being attractive. I do know that there was a strong element of " fat as > > adultery repellent " that I was glued to at my heaviest. I gained weight out > > of sheer fear. I did not trust myself to look half way nice. I may be > > cycling back through that at my current weight. Last time I lost a bunch of > > weight, I did end up having an affair. Mind you at the time I was also > > dealing with stress in a highly destructive way, damaging my moral compass > > and my perspectives and standards by self-soothing with pornography. I am > > dealing with that addictive behaviour much more effectively now though. > > > > I may need to develop more of the helpful stress relief tools I have > > found, or I may have to be more intentional about USING them consistently > > and naturally before I can feel safe losing the rest of the weight. This > > afternoon I plan to go for a nice long walk. That is a literal and > > figurative step in the right direction. Once I can afford it, I would like > > to buy another unicycle. I enjoyed practicing that and was just getting > > going on it, but gave it to my son. He rides it well and uses it to commute > > to class where he lives. Giving it away may have been a bit of subconscious > > self-sabotage. > > > > > > Carlton Larsen, Ba, Bgp > > Freelance Musician > > 426 Pinehouse Drive > > Saskatoon Sk > > S7K4X5 > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > To: insideoutweightloss > > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 8:56:51 AM > > Subject: self sabotage > > > > > > > > Every time I loose a couple pounds or start feeling looser in my clothes, > > I start eating more or eating more sweets and regain a pound or two.....I > > feel like a yoyo. I am trying to find the limited belief(s) that causes me > > to do that and so far am unable. What causes this self sabotaging? Any > > idea? Help. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2012 Report Share Posted March 30, 2012 I'm trying Carlton. It isn't always easy. I still fall into the old ways of thinking and beating myself up at times. I have to remember that gets me nowhere! ________________________________ To: " insideoutweightloss " <insideoutweightloss > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 10:51 PM Subject: Re: self sabotage  Hi Kim. Gratitude is very powerful and when I can do it, it helps me stay more positive and away from the self-soothing that food so often can be. Sounds like you have good plans to be grateful and successful.  Carlton Larsen, Ba, Bgp Freelance Musician 426 Pinehouse Drive Saskatoon Sk S7K4X5 ________________________________ To: " insideoutweightloss " <insideoutweightloss > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 5:55:21 PM Subject: Re: self sabotage  Good point. I'm going on a beach vacation in June and I was going to be at goal by then. I've lost 10 lbs., but without some crazy dieting it isn't probable that I'll be at goal. I'm working on being happy getting part of it off and losing the rest in a sensible way. I usually feel so unhappy and disappointed in myself if I have an " event " and I don't look the way I think I should. I'm really trying to be less hard on myself and to appreciate the progress I've made so far. ________________________________ To: insideoutweightloss Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 2:40 PM Subject: Re: self sabotage  The same thing had been happening to me for a LONG time (always before an event - i.e., every year my mother and I go to Florida and I always try to shape up and slim down before we go, but I used to, without fail, sabotage myself about a month before we went in April after being very healthy since January) - and I think I finally figured out why I acted the way I did. I think it was a fear of success - well, not of success itself, but a fear that if I kept my healthy habits up until the time I went on vacation, I would *still* be disappointed in myself. For me, the positive intent was not to be disappointed if my BEST efforts didn't get my body to where I wanted it. It almost gave me an excuse to hate my body, in a strange way. Hope that makes sense, and hope it helps! ~Khiri On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Carlton Larsen wrote: > ** > > > Good question . > > I am at a point where I am stuck too. I am not sure if it is a comfort in > stress thing, which is what it feels like, or if it is just the old fear of > being attractive. I do know that there was a strong element of " fat as > adultery repellent " that I was glued to at my heaviest. I gained weight out > of sheer fear. I did not trust myself to look half way nice. I may be > cycling back through that at my current weight. Last time I lost a bunch of > weight, I did end up having an affair. Mind you at the time I was also > dealing with stress in a highly destructive way, damaging my moral compass > and my perspectives and standards by self-soothing with pornography. I am > dealing with that addictive behaviour much more effectively now though. > > I may need to develop more of the helpful stress relief tools I have > found, or I may have to be more intentional about USING them consistently > and naturally before I can feel safe losing the rest of the weight. This > afternoon I plan to go for a nice long walk. That is a literal and > figurative step in the right direction. Once I can afford it, I would like > to buy another unicycle. I enjoyed practicing that and was just getting > going on it, but gave it to my son. He rides it well and uses it to commute > to class where he lives. Giving it away may have been a bit of subconscious > self-sabotage. > > > Carlton Larsen, Ba, Bgp > Freelance Musician > 426 Pinehouse Drive > Saskatoon Sk > S7K4X5 > > > ________________________________ > > To: insideoutweightloss > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 8:56:51 AM > Subject: self sabotage > > > > Every time I loose a couple pounds or start feeling looser in my clothes, > I start eating more or eating more sweets and regain a pound or two.....I > feel like a yoyo. I am trying to find the limited belief(s) that causes me > to do that and so far am unable. What causes this self sabotaging? Any > idea? Help. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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