Re: Re: I actually like overeating...

[Guest guest]

Lori, there's a series of podcasts on overcoming hunger phobia. It starts with

#41, the intro to EFT. Hopefully that makes your search shorter. :-)

Krissy, if you really like it and you don't want to change, then it's great. If

you do want to change... there are a lot of pointers in the way you worded your

message.

Starting with the fact that you lean back and sit around for 20 minutes feeling

cozy. What would happen if you sat back for 20 minutes feeling cozy BEFORE you

ate, instead of after? If the positive intent behind feeling overly full is to

be able to sit for 20 minutes, well, you can give that to yourself without the

food. 

You're using the word " gorge " , which generally has negative connotations. Makes

me think that in spite of the fact that you feel some positives about the

behavior, there's something about it that you see as negative. Are you sure it's

actually the feeling of being overly full that you like, and not the feeling

that you basically went out of control? You're in a situation where other people

are trying in one way or another to control you. Like your agent telling you

exactly how many inches you should be, and your mother telling you how often to

measure. Now, I'm really good at jumping to conclusions, but I'm wondering if

there isn't a bit of a rebellion thing going on here. You can honestly say

you're eating salad, and you're only eating three meals a day--but you're still

going a bit out of control..... There's a good chance that I'm wrong here, but

take a moment to consider the idea first. Take a moment to analyze the way you

feel after that big meal.

Where do you actually feel good? Is there anywhere you don't feel good? 

And take a moment to think about how you felt before you ate to the point of

discomfort. Were you feeling any emotional discomfort before you ate? 

How do you feel about restricting yourself the rest of the day? Do you like the

feeling, or does it bring out some of what Lori mentions--fear of being hungry?

I know that for me, too much restriction (because of dieting mentality, or

uncertainty, or whatever) brings on a feeling that I need to eat as much as

possible when food is available. Maybe take a moment to think about how you'd

feel the rest of the day if you had a little bit more at each of your other

meals.

As I say, I'm good at jumping to conclusions. But hopefully even if I'm wrong,

my thoughts can trigger something to point you in the right direction.

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>Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 3:32 AM

>Subject: Re: I actually like overeating...

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>I actually do not like the feeling of being super full (Full - yes). What I

really hate is feeling hungry. I hate that feeling. It is the clincher in

this journey that I can seem to get past. I eat very healthy, I just eat too

much of healthy.

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>I have been trying to reframe hunger. Still searching...

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>> Is it bizarre that I like to feel SUPER full, not just full? I don't like

eating so there's still some room left in my stomach. I'd rather eat two small

meals early on in the day and one HUGE meal at the end of my day and feel so

satiated that I have to lean back and sit around for 20 minutes 'cause I'm so

full and cozy that I can't move. Eating passed the point of being full can feel

good, especially when you're eating healthy stuff. I like to use my last meal of

the day as my big treat where I gorge.

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>> Today I ate a HUGE chicken salad and two servings of whole grain cereal.

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>> I'm basking in the feeling right now. Granted, it's only 3:00 pm and I

probably won't eat anything else for the rest of the night...

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>> but damn.

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>> I like this feeling.

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>> Anybody else thoroughly enjoy the feeling of relaxing and having your stomach

packed up?

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>> - Krissy

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[Guest guest]

Thank you .  I am listening to them and they are helping.

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To: " insideoutweightloss " <insideoutweightloss >

Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 9:09 AM

Subject: Re: Re: I actually like overeating...

 

Lori, there's a series of podcasts on overcoming hunger phobia. It starts with

#41, the intro to EFT. Hopefully that makes your search shorter. :-)

Krissy, if you really like it and you don't want to change, then it's great. If

you do want to change... there are a lot of pointers in the way you worded your

message.

Starting with the fact that you lean back and sit around for 20 minutes feeling

cozy. What would happen if you sat back for 20 minutes feeling cozy BEFORE you

ate, instead of after? If the positive intent behind feeling overly full is to

be able to sit for 20 minutes, well, you can give that to yourself without the

food. 

You're using the word " gorge " , which generally has negative connotations. Makes

me think that in spite of the fact that you feel some positives about the

behavior, there's something about it that you see as negative. Are you sure it's

actually the feeling of being overly full that you like, and not the feeling

that you basically went out of control? You're in a situation where other people

are trying in one way or another to control you. Like your agent telling you

exactly how many inches you should be, and your mother telling you how often to

measure. Now, I'm really good at jumping to conclusions, but I'm wondering if

there isn't a bit of a rebellion thing going on here. You can honestly say

you're eating salad, and you're only eating three meals a day--but you're still

going a bit out of control..... There's a good chance that I'm wrong here, but

take a moment to consider the idea first. Take a moment to analyze the way you

feel after that big meal.

Where do you actually feel good? Is there anywhere you don't feel good? 

And take a moment to think about how you felt before you ate to the point of

discomfort. Were you feeling any emotional discomfort before you ate? 

How do you feel about restricting yourself the rest of the day? Do you like the

feeling, or does it bring out some of what Lori mentions--fear of being hungry?

I know that for me, too much restriction (because of dieting mentality, or

uncertainty, or whatever) brings on a feeling that I need to eat as much as

possible when food is available. Maybe take a moment to think about how you'd

feel the rest of the day if you had a little bit more at each of your other

meals.

As I say, I'm good at jumping to conclusions. But hopefully even if I'm wrong,

my thoughts can trigger something to point you in the right direction.

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>To: insideoutweightloss

>Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 3:32 AM

>Subject: Re: I actually like overeating...

>

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>

>I actually do not like the feeling of being super full (Full - yes). What I

really hate is feeling hungry. I hate that feeling. It is the clincher in

this journey that I can seem to get past. I eat very healthy, I just eat too

much of healthy.

>

>I have been trying to reframe hunger. Still searching...

>

>

>>

>> Is it bizarre that I like to feel SUPER full, not just full? I don't like

eating so there's still some room left in my stomach. I'd rather eat two small

meals early on in the day and one HUGE meal at the end of my day and feel so

satiated that I have to lean back and sit around for 20 minutes 'cause I'm so

full and cozy that I can't move. Eating passed the point of being full can feel

good, especially when you're eating healthy stuff. I like to use my last meal of

the day as my big treat where I gorge.

>>

>> Today I ate a HUGE chicken salad and two servings of whole grain cereal.

>>

>> I'm basking in the feeling right now. Granted, it's only 3:00 pm and I

probably won't eat anything else for the rest of the night...

>>

>> but damn.

>>

>> I like this feeling.

>>

>> Anybody else thoroughly enjoy the feeling of relaxing and having your stomach

packed up?

>>

>> - Krissy

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[Guest guest]

Krissy, I think of it more as projecting than intuition--I know how certain

words, certain situations make " me* feel, so I wonder if it makes you feel the

same. 

Glad it resonated with you. And your victory over the cake made me smile! :-)

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