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Why Eggbeaters? Why not real organic eggs. I would also question the use of non-stick pans. I got rid of mine when I found out that flouride is released when teflon is heated.Sara wrote: Do love the EBs - sometimes I top them with lowfat shredded Cheddar cheese and salsa for a treat. Maybe a few thin slices of avacado. I just buy the large round containers of regular old fashioned Quaker Oatmeal and put 1/2 cup in a bowl, add a little more than 1/2 cup water and microwave on a pretty high power for 2-3 minutes. I have learned to play with the amount of water and mw time and power to get it just the consistency I like. I like drier, fresher oatmeal than the usual overcooked kind I find at breakfast

places. If you want something really incredible in oatmeal, try finding McCann's oatmeal. It's whole, unprocessed (unflattened) oats, and incredible. But it takes longer to cook. McCann's comes in a round metal tin, with a pry up lid, and has a fancy white label and lettering. I discovered fat free Land O' Lakes half and half (10 cals per T.), and a great sugar-free maple syrup by Cozy Cottage, and started truly loving breakfast. (But you have to watch the amount of the ff 1/2 & 1/2 you use!) You can put strawberries on the oatmeal, too. Yum. I like to take the fresh ones, mash them up and add some Splenda. Can you tell I like to eat?.... :-)> >> > - Regarding breakfast: I am a firm believer in protein to > > start the day. I have always liked Egg Beaters

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I mainly drink bottled water, but when I am eating out, I will drink the water they bring to the table. Fluoride displaces the iodine in thyroid hormone. It can cause hypothyroidism, and contributes to Alzheimers, in that it transports the aluminum to the brain. My father-in-law used to keep a pot of water heating on the stove at all times, so that he could easily make a cup of instant coffee. It was an aluminum pot with fluoridated tap water getting ever more concentrated. He never had a diagnosis of Alzheimers, but he did have dementia. They used to use fluoride as an anti-thyroid drug for hyperthyroidism. The Nazis used it to subdue the prisoners in concentration camps. Now they put it our drinking water. . . . . cowgirlgrams wrote: Hey Jan, I just finished cooking tonight's meal ahead of time in my regular pan. I am going to try and remember not to use my teflon pan. I know you said that teflon releases flouride. What does flouride do to us ...I can't remember that discussion...was so

involved getting adjusted to thyroid meds. Do you only drink bottled water? ..

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The only way to remove fluoride from water is a reverse osmosis filter. The water dispensed at Whole Foods Market has been subjected to that kind of filtration. Then there is chlorine. Carbon filters will remove chlorine. What I have not yet done, but ought to do, is invest in a carbon filter for my shower. We are not poisoning ourselves. THEY are poisoning us. If you are not paranoid, then you just don't know what is going on. . . . cowgirlgrams wrote: Wow...thanks Jan for all the info...kind of scary huh...it almost feels like we are slowly poisioning ourselves. I heat a cup of water in the

microwave in the afternoons to make a cup of Cappucino mix (which I shouldn't have in the first place..but addicted to it) but does heating water make for less flouride...I know I couldn't be that lucky? I know your father was getting it from the aluminum pan...apparently the flouride didn't evaporate or anything by heating it? We have a water softener with the osmosa's (mispelled) and drink that but I don't think that even takes out the flouride? ..> Hey Jan, I just finished cooking tonight's meal ahead of time in my > regular pan. I am going to try and remember not to use my teflon > pan. I know you said that teflon releases flouride. What does > flouride do

to us ...I can't remember that discussion...was so > involved getting adjusted to thyroid meds. Do you only drink bottled > water? ..

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I'd love the idea of a food folder for ideas! Sara, do you eat bread at all. I try to have whole grain bread like spelt or millet or ezekiel, but i don't know i've given it up before..guess i could again. what grains do you eat???

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If you don't mind eating them cold, you can boil several of them ahead of time. Poached eggs are good, too. wrote: That's it. I'll just boil a dang egg every day! lol~nw I have heard alot of controversy too Jan about non stick pans. I > should probably start using my regular pan more often. I just got in > the habit of using the non stick because they are much better about > not sticking. A neighbor of

mine uses the eggbeaters too because > they are cholestrol free. They are just made out of egg whites if I > remember right. I tried them and they aren't bad at all...pretty > good as a matter of fact....

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We already have a recipes folder. If you have any that you want added, send them to me. Also, if you have the info on the foods, I would be glad to set-up a file. Ezekiel Bread contains millet. Millet is a goiterogen that is not neutralized by cooking. As a matter of fact, cooking may make it even worse. Karla has put a list of goiterogens on the Thyroid Support Groups-USA site. cowgirlgrams wrote: It would be great to also include a section in that folder for

foods that don't aggravate our thyroids and recipes. Might be alot of work though setting the folder up...>> I'd love the idea of a food folder for ideas! Sara, do you eat bread at > all. I try to have whole grain bread like spelt or millet or ezekiel, but i > don't know i've given it up before..guess i could again. what grains do you > eat???

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Has anyone read Dr. Mercola's book. He recommends a grain free diet, I believe. If you have read it, please let me know if you think it's worthwhile to buy.

thanks.steph

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I did not know that there were other kinds of nonstick pans. If there are, What is the coating? wrote: Does the flouride pertain to teflon only or all nonstick cookware (now that I just went and bought a brand new set of nontick)?nw>> Hey Jan, I just finished cooking tonight's meal ahead of time in my > regular pan. I am going to try and remember not to use my teflon > pan. I know you said that teflon releases flouride. What does > flouride do to us ...I can't remember that discussion...was so

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I just googled "analon." It is hard anodized ALUMINUM. I go to a lot of trouble to avoid cooking in aluminum. That is the stuff that the fluoride transports to the brain in Alzheimers. I will not even use pans with an aluminum core under stainless steel, as I think it can leach out. I would rather use stainless steel (or even Corningware or Pyrex) with a little olive oil or butter. If you heat the pan first, then add the oil, let the oil heat up, then add the food, it should not stick too badly. If it does stick, you can soak it before washing. Iron skillets are good, too, but I like to put everything into the dishwasher, so I do not cook in iron. A well-seasoned metal pan that is never put in the dishwasher or washed with strong cleaners should be pretty close to non-stick. There seem to be several methods for doing this, so I will give a link to the results of a Google search on the subject. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en & q=seasoning+a+pan+ & btnG=Google+Search sle816@... wrote: There are analon (SP??) pans. I was thinking about buying them. I don't think they re the same as teflon, but may be just as bad.. Jan???? steph

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Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, I LOVE eggs ANY way they are cooked : )

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> Hehe, , I've been low carbing for over 2 years, and I just

> can't do the plain hard boiled eggs yet! It just smells too much

> like " rotten egg you-know-what " to me! I can do a simple egg salad

> w/just mayo and dill relish occasionally, but I

> stress " occasionally " and also when I'm really, really hungry!

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What if you replace the mayo with lowfat plain yogurt?

That's what I use, as I hate mayonnaise. It also

contains soy oil, which shouldn't bother you, unless

you're allergic.

Best--

Courtenay.

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> Hehe, , I've been low carbing for over 2 years,

and I just

> can't do the plain hard boiled eggs yet! It just

smells too much

> like " rotten egg you-know-what " to me! I can do a

simple egg salad

> w/just mayo and dill relish occasionally, but I

> stress " occasionally " and also when I'm really,

really hungry!

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Read the ingredients. Many whole grain breads contain millet, a major goiterogen which is made worse by cooking. wrote: I had my first hard boiled egg in a long time this morning. Cold. The yolk had a weird texture. I just know I would gag if I tried eating one every single morning. lol! I "think" a good quality whole grain bread is okay (per ) unless of course you have gluten intolerance.-- In Texas_Thyroid_Groups , "cowgirlgrams" wrote:>> I have one of those egg cookers and it is fabulous. You can make up > to 7 hard boiled eggs at a time...and the yolk is always perfect and > centered

especially if you were going to make deviled eggs out of > them. I would highly recommend it for hard boiled eggs...also in > some you can make poached eggs...> > > >> > If you don't mind eating them cold, you can boil several of them > ahead of time. Poached eggs are good, too.

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All of the pre-packaged breads contain soy oil, which

can affect those who have a soy allergy. The only way

to avoid it is to buy fresh bread from a bakery. Or

bake your own.

However, I don't eat bread at all. I am on the Broda

diet (Chapter 15). It has been SO helpful.

Of course, Jan knows all of this.

Courtenay.

--- Jan wrote:

> Read the ingredients. Many whole grain breads

> contain millet, a major goiterogen which is made

> worse by cooking.

>

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I hate mayo, too, unless it is homemade with lemon juice instead of vinegar. Courtenay wrote: What if you replace the mayo with lowfat plain yogurt?That's what I use, as I hate mayonnaise. It alsocontains soy oil, which shouldn't bother you, unlessyou're allergic.Best--Courtenay. Re: Breakfast, meals,etc.> Hehe, , I've been low carbing for over 2 years,and I just > can't do the plain hard boiled eggs yet! It justsmells too much > like

"rotten egg you-know-what" to me! I can do asimple egg salad > w/just mayo and dill relish occasionally, but I > stress "occasionally" and also when I'm really,really hungry!

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I could totally go for the real, French, homemade

mayo. It's just the weird, gelatinous bottled stuff

that gives me the jeebies.

I also really love the taste of good yogurt mixed with

tuna and chopped dill pickle. Tastes good with a

little curry powder.

Courtenay.

-- Jan wrote:

> I hate mayo, too, unless it is homemade with lemon

> juice instead of vinegar.

>

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Confession: I like my almost hard-boiled eggs warm with butter, served with nut and rice crackers.Courtenay wrote: I could totally go for the real, French, homemademayo. It's just the weird, gelatinous bottled stuffthat gives me the jeebies. I also really love the taste of good yogurt mixed withtuna and chopped dill pickle. Tastes good with alittle curry powder.Courtenay.-- Jan wrote:> I hate mayo, too, unless it is homemade with lemon> juice instead of vinegar.

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I think we're buying the same nut and rice crackers.

Yeah, I could eat that. Totally.

--- Jan wrote:

> Confession: I like my almost hard-boiled eggs warm

> with butter, served with nut and rice crackers.

>

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Weeellll, there are some serious debates about that.

One school of thought is that soy protein is the only

true problem for people suffering from thyroid

problems. Another school of thought is that all soy

is derived from protein, so you can't really get away

from the protein chemistry involved.

As you can guess, avoiding all soy is quite

problematic for thyroiders on the go, unless you cook

and carry most of your meals.

In my own situation, I'm reactive to all soy, so I

simply avoid it. Eating out is really amusing, but

I've found places that I know use alternative oil

sources. I also eat really simple things when I go

out, so it's not a problem. And I make most of my

meals at home.

Best--

Courtenay.

--- sle816@... wrote:

> I thought soy lecithin was ok???

>

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Hey !

Are there any bakeries in your area? Maybe you and

your husband could make bread? Just a thought.

Courtenay.

--- wrote:

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It's hard to find whole grain breads without millet or

our old buddy

soy lecithin.

nw

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I found them in five different varieties at my local Whole Foods Market: almond, pecan, hazelnut, plus two "flavored" varieties that I have not tried, I think a smoked almond and one other kind. Courtenay wrote: Yes, ma'am, there is. It's made in conjunction withthe Blue Diamond nut people. Fabulous crackers. Sometimes I eat eight of them in a row. Wheeee.Courtenay.--- wrote:---------------------------------Gasp! There's a cracker that's not a total no-no? Nut and rice

crackers, did you say?>> Confession: I like my almost hard-boiled eggs warmwith butter, served with nut and rice crackers.

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It just depends on how sensitive you are to soy. I can tolerate soy oil and soy lecithin with no problem. There are others who have to avoid every form of soy. If it does not bother you, then it is OK. If you are concerned, avoid it completely for a month, then add it back in and note your reaction. sle816@... wrote: I thought soy lecithin was ok???

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I would talk to Dr. R about this before asking me. (I

don't eat any bread whatsoever.) Most of the health

food stores carry nut flour, buckwheat flour, rye...

all the usual alternatives for people who cannot

handle wheat in either natural or bleached form. I

use the Joy of Cooking for all of my basic cooking

issues, and they have tons of bread recipes. You can

probably also order flour from on-line if you cannot

get it near you. Oh! And remember if you're in a

high altitude now, you have to adjust baking times and

all of that.

Courtenay.

--- wrote:

---------------------------------

Wow! Excellent thought. I just have to admit I don't

know what is

allowed where flour (wheat flour okay?) or grains are

concerned. It

would be fun to have a bread machine but a person

would probably

have to avoid the mixes because they are no doubt full

of no-no's.

What kind of flour would you use for bread? Thanks.

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