Re: Fw: Are there any Atypical MS in saline implanted women o...

[Guest guest]

Would like to know this also--friend of friend was

just dxd with it and has 6 yr old salines which

she won't consider as even possibly a

contributing factor. . .

[Guest guest]

There are some studies actually that do point toward implants causing MS or symptoms of MS, I have read some, I will try to dig them up and post them at some point. Dr Kolb also has spoken about this, something to do with the fact that silicone can mimic myelin and that the body attacks the myelin (nerve covering) thinking it is silicone, so yes I do believe that these things are associated with implants. I also know as I had many MS like symptoms and even in my implant booklet from the FDA MS like symptoms were listed as unknown risks of implants.

I will post more when I can.

Love

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From: Bos@...

Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 8:31 AM

Subject: Re: Fw: Are there any Atypical MS in saline implanted women o...

Would like to know this also--friend of friend was just dxd with it and has 6 yr old salines which she won't consider as even possibly a contributing factor. . .

[Guest guest]

> Would like to know this also--friend of friend was

> just dxd with it and has 6 yr old salines which

> she won't consider as even possibly a

> contributing factor. . .

Atypical MS, How is this DX? My doctors strongly suspected MS with

me, my neuro exam showed problems with refelxes, and positive

babinski. My symptoms were so close, but the MRI was normal.

Does your friend have mostly sensory symptoms, or muscle? This is so

strange, I know others who had same problems, (I think) and I

too. My booklet also states that some women complain of MS symptoms

with implants. I'm having mine removed June 16th. I'm sure it is

the implants (saline) causing the problems.

Fatuige

achy/flu like feeling

numbness weakness in right leg/arm

numbness in right face/tongue

vision changes

dizzy

balance problems/bump into walls

saying wrong words/brain fog

hyper reflex - positive babinski

nerve type pain in hands/tender to touch

Darlene

[Guest guest]

Hi Deb

I was dx. with M.S. in 1994 and I had a Saline Implant.

I have a testimony here on file. I had the implant removed immediately

I had a spinal tap which was the only way my neurologist would

diagnose it as M.S. and it came back as positive as M.S. One thing

that puzzled me more than anything was the pain I was having.

Every M.S. victim that I know has no pain. But today 8 years

afterwards I am not walking with a cane, and I don't sleep my life

away. I still walk with a gimp and I still have pain, but I feel I

have it under control with the pain meds I am on which is Lortab

10/500s. I don't like the idea that I am putting all that

acetameniphin into my liver and I would glady get Norco but I cant

afford that,(its with less acet.) Shoot I cant afford the Lortab or

the Soma's sometimes I have to use my Visa. I do get blood work done

every 3 months so far so good. The Dr.s say I am in remission with the

M.S. but I dont believe them.. I totally believe what I have is

Silicone poisioning, with M.S. type symptoms. It's been 6 years since

I have had a MRI simply because I try to avoide Dr.s. Since I have

became sick from Implants I also have become so Sick of

Doctors.(e and I can relate)

Deb.. Im so glad you finally found a Dr. to remove your implants, what

a blessing. Im convienced that you to will become better after having

your implants removed as I have. And during this whole implant ordeal

I also became better friends with Jesus. And with your help to sistah'

I love the things you write. It feeds my soul with more faith. I dont

post much in here but I am always reading.. and praying for all of my

silicone sisters & sisters in Christ.

" In peace I will both lie down and sleep. For you alone, O Lord, make

me to dwell in safety. "

Psalm 4:8

God Bless forever & a Day!

Debe

> There are some studies actually that do point toward implants

causing MS or symptoms of MS, I have read some, I will try to dig them

up and post them at some point. Dr Kolb also has spoken about this,

something to do with the fact that silicone can mimic myelin and that

the body attacks the myelin (nerve covering) thinking it is silicone,

so yes I do believe that these things are associated with implants. I

also know as I had many MS like symptoms and even in my implant

booklet from the FDA MS like symptoms were listed as unknown risks of

implants.

>

> I will post more when I can.

>

> Love

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Bos@a...

> @y...

> Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 8:31 AM

> Subject: Re: Fw: Are there any Atypical MS in

saline implanted women o...

>

>

> Would like to know this also--friend of friend was

> just dxd with it and has 6 yr old salines which

> she won't consider as even possibly a

> contributing factor. . .

>

[Guest guest]

I am not sure and quite frankly I am glad I never got any diagnosis because

now that the implants are gone and I am so much better I don't have any

disease hanging over my head.

I think that in your case with your textured implants, and your symptoms

being so close to mine that you are truly going to get the relief you need

without having any diagnosis.

I don't have a doubt that you will find relief of your illness with explant

as long as your explant is performed properly and all the capsule is removed

with the scar capsule. This is the most imperative thing I can tell you.

Hang in there and remember to post when you are going through all this we

are here for you.

Try to rest assured knowing you will get better.

I have come so far I can honestly say I only have the back pain left and I

am not 100% sure that this is implant related as I have bone thinning that

may be the culprit of this pain.

All my other implant related symptoms are resolved I am awaiting the latest

tests(ANA titer) to confirm things.

Love

----- Original Message -----

From: " cdpayne64 " <cdpayne64@...>

< >

Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 4:50 PM

Subject: Re: Fw: Are there any Atypical MS in saline

implanted women o...

>

> > Would like to know this also--friend of friend was

> > just dxd with it and has 6 yr old salines which

> > she won't consider as even possibly a

> > contributing factor. . .

>

> Atypical MS, How is this DX? My doctors strongly suspected MS with

> me, my neuro exam showed problems with refelxes, and positive

> babinski. My symptoms were so close, but the MRI was normal.

>

> Does your friend have mostly sensory symptoms, or muscle? This is so

> strange, I know others who had same problems, (I think) and I

> too. My booklet also states that some women complain of MS symptoms

> with implants. I'm having mine removed June 16th. I'm sure it is

> the implants (saline) causing the problems.

>

> Fatuige

> achy/flu like feeling

> numbness weakness in right leg/arm

> numbness in right face/tongue

> vision changes

> dizzy

> balance problems/bump into walls

> saying wrong words/brain fog

> hyper reflex - positive babinski

> nerve type pain in hands/tender to touch

>

>

> Darlene

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

This is the problem with saline implants and why so many of us are led to believe they are safe, many many women with implants refuse to even consider the implants are a problem.

I think that if more women would come out and face it, and talk about it, we would get allot more crediblilty. As it is now these sick women in denial are hurting our cause.

The other thing that I hate to say is that if more women would get explanted( by a good PS who does it correctly) then they would get better and we would again, have more credibilty. As long as women are in denial and keep the implants and stay ill, we will never be believed.

----- Original Message -----

From: Bos@...

Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 8:31 AM

Subject: Re: Fw: Are there any Atypical MS in saline implanted women o...

Would like to know this also--friend of friend was just dxd with it and has 6 yr old salines which she won't consider as even possibly a contributing factor. . .

[Guest guest]

hey girl regarding the vicodin I would like to make a suggestion to you.

That is that you try to find a pain specialist that will treat you with meds

that are less dangerous to your liver. Have you talked to your Dr about

maybe getting you on oxycodone or oxycontin? these can be very safe if used

as prescribed and less addicting because they do not cause the euphoria like

norco or lortab. They also only have to be taken 2 times a day and have no

tylenol so that your liver isn't being taxed.

I realize that not everyone understands what it is like to need pain meds,

but having been there I do understand and would really suggest that you look

into seeing a Pain Dr that will be able to help you without making your

issues worse.

I know that you are probably not in a position to get off the meds right now

so seriously see if you can switch. I have talked to a few different people

who seem to do really well on these other meds, while I realize they have

bad reputations from what I have been reading they are not as bad as the

stigma associated with them.

Girl I understand about pain, so if I can ever help let me know.

Been there done that.

Love and hugs

----- Original Message -----

From: " ldebe " <ldebe@...>

< >

Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 11:32 AM

Subject: Re: Fw: Are there any Atypical MS in saline

implanted women o...

> Hi Deb

> I was dx. with M.S. in 1994 and I had a Saline Implant.

> I have a testimony here on file. I had the implant removed immediately

> I had a spinal tap which was the only way my neurologist would

> diagnose it as M.S. and it came back as positive as M.S. One thing

> that puzzled me more than anything was the pain I was having.

> Every M.S. victim that I know has no pain. But today 8 years

> afterwards I am not walking with a cane, and I don't sleep my life

> away. I still walk with a gimp and I still have pain, but I feel I

> have it under control with the pain meds I am on which is Lortab

> 10/500s. I don't like the idea that I am putting all that

> acetameniphin into my liver and I would glady get Norco but I cant

> afford that,(its with less acet.) Shoot I cant afford the Lortab or

> the Soma's sometimes I have to use my Visa. I do get blood work done

> every 3 months so far so good. The Dr.s say I am in remission with the

> M.S. but I dont believe them.. I totally believe what I have is

> Silicone poisioning, with M.S. type symptoms. It's been 6 years since

> I have had a MRI simply because I try to avoide Dr.s. Since I have

> became sick from Implants I also have become so Sick of

> Doctors.(e and I can relate)

> Deb.. Im so glad you finally found a Dr. to remove your implants, what

> a blessing. Im convienced that you to will become better after having

> your implants removed as I have. And during this whole implant ordeal

> I also became better friends with Jesus. And with your help to sistah'

> I love the things you write. It feeds my soul with more faith. I dont

> post much in here but I am always reading.. and praying for all of my

> silicone sisters & sisters in Christ.

> " In peace I will both lie down and sleep. For you alone, O Lord, make

> me to dwell in safety. "

> Psalm 4:8

> God Bless forever & a Day!

> Debe

>

>

>

>

>

> > There are some studies actually that do point toward implants

> causing MS or symptoms of MS, I have read some, I will try to dig them

> up and post them at some point. Dr Kolb also has spoken about this,

> something to do with the fact that silicone can mimic myelin and that

> the body attacks the myelin (nerve covering) thinking it is silicone,

> so yes I do believe that these things are associated with implants. I

> also know as I had many MS like symptoms and even in my implant

> booklet from the FDA MS like symptoms were listed as unknown risks of

> implants.

> >

> > I will post more when I can.

> >

> > Love

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: Bos@a...

> > @y...

> > Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 8:31 AM

> > Subject: Re: Fw: Are there any Atypical MS in

> saline implanted women o...

> >

> >

> > Would like to know this also--friend of friend was

> > just dxd with it and has 6 yr old salines which

> > she won't consider as even possibly a

> > contributing factor. . .

> >