Re: Pain Managemen/FMLA Do You Really Know How It Works?

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> TJ,

> THE STATEMENT BELOW GREATLY DISTURBS ME; if you are

> choosing booze over proper pain relief with narcotics, then

> please don't complain and get off of this list!!!

>

> you have no right to complain about poor pain control when

> you are irresponsible about your health in general.

>

> i am not referring to booze as the problem; that is a right

> for anyone, but choosing booze over pain control???

>

> maybe there is a problem..... i have to say that your

> statement here really angered me. ijust don't understand

> how anyone can be offered the choice of PAIN vs less pain

> and a better life over something like booze that does

> nothing for body except numb the brain and for many, causes

> poor life choices.

>

> i pray that it had nothing to do with all of the car

> accidents you have been in......

>

>

> I

> > cannot take darvocet, percocet, vincidyn and all those

> > other nasty narcotic drugs. I could not get up in the

> morning on them because I like to go out and have a couple

> drinks every now and then. Booze and narcotics just don't

> mix period.

>

>

> Kat,

I think you are blowing this a little out of proportion. I'm not a

boozer and it had nothing to do with all the car accidents. The car

accidents always happened going to work in the morning because we

have such a poor freeway system in Des Moines. I was just making a

point that if you like to have a drink or two and are on pain

medication the two don't mix so you better decide probably not to

drink. I said booze and narcotics don't mix period so I think I was

making a point not to take pain medication and drink on top of it.

TJ

>

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Booze

and narcotics just don't mix period.

No, they don't.I cannot take Ultram myself because they give me

incredible migraine headaches. They effect serotonin levels which is

not the case with narcotics. Why not take effective medications

including narcotics, and if you want a drink don't take them for a

week and then drink. Or better yet don't drink. I do not even sip at

a glass of wine with dinner. It is just the way it must be since I

did not choose to be injured I must force myself to make other

decisions (but in my case I never did drink anyway). Unless, the

alchohol is helping you with your pain which I imagine it could. I

don't think that is good for your liver though while the narcotic

medications help the pain and dont affect your liver. I do have

friends who drink, take their narcotic pain medication and also smoke

pot...I don't do that either but that's their choice and it works for

them. She has a back injury and he has an autoimmune disorder of some

type similar to a form of arthritis. We all have to make personal

decisions about our health and our treatment as far as we are able

to. Of course pot is not legal anyway so they are putting themselves

at that risk. I had a friend point out in this country that even with

all the problems we face as patients and getting effective treatment,

we have the ability to exhuaust every doctor in the country if that's

what we have to do to get help and its not like this in other

countries. We really do have advantages that we take for granted,

although I fear that if I lose treatment for my pain, again will I be

able to keep fighting the bullshit? I guess I will have to or just

erase myself from this planet finally for good.

> I recently had a direct message from a member suggesting a pain

> management doctor.

> Well unfortunately I have gone to one since 1994 when I was in a

car

> accident where I was rearended. I had been rearended 3 other times

in

> the last 20 years and have not had a car accident at the fault of

> myself in that time period. People drive too fast on snow and ice

and

> that's what happened to me 4 times in 20 years within 2 blocks on a

> busy West Des Moines, IA intersections.

> I have been to 3 different pain management doctors and they helped

> with the trigger points and epidurals and they only last about 2-4

> weeks and they won't give you anymore than 3 treatments a year.

> I have lived on Ultram for years which is a non-narcotic drug as I

> cannot take darvocet, percocet, vincidyn and all those other nasty

> narcotic drugs. I could not get up in the morning on them because I

> like to go out and have a couple drinks every now and then. Booze

> and narcotics just don't mix period.

> I would say if pain management does not work within 1-2 months

> surgery should be considered as the next resort.

> Be careful of your time management as most companies with FMLA only

> allow 3 months off for your own personal illness and it's usually

> calculated on a calendar basis instead of an annual basis which

most

> people don't understand.

> For example: I missed work 1/19/2000 till 4/19/2000 because of a

> surgery. You would not be granted those hours you missed during

this

> particular time period till 1/19/2001 if you had another illness.

> Your employer has the right to post your job and leave you out in

the

> cold. However, if you are deemed well again to be able to be

> gainfully employed you can start work back at your old employer and

> be paid the same rate you were for 60 days and post for whatever

job

> that is open within the company. Granted it could be more or less

> than you were making but if you don't get a job within the company

> you are terminated after 60 days including benefits. I think that's

a

> real screw job for people that have been extremely ill! Don't you?

> If you have been very ill like I have been would you hire me back

> again for 60 days. I don't think so. I will be discriminated

against

> till hell freezes over. Wouldn't you be? We need to do something

> more about this also. Any ideas? I think FMLA needs to be

extended

> to 6 months because of our current wonderful health care systems!

> I also believe HMO's should become history.

> I live on disability probably you do too so I know what it's like

to

> be somebody one day and the next day you ain't worth crap!

> I'd just love to have you're feedbacks as I hope you are as hot

about

> healthcare, HMO's, and doctors as I am! Be respectable. A little

> shit and damn is O.K. but don't go too overboard on verbage!

> I'm a respectable person and I am fighting to change this for all

of

> us that are disabled and everyone else as well!

> I have some very good backing from my father who was is a retired

> banker, my father-in-law who is a retired attorney, several ex-

> govenors and current senators from Iowa that I know personally and

> the current govenor here in Iowa.

> We need to keep looking for changes in our health care that will be

> more advantageous to us for now and in the future.

>

> I am really fighting my ass off for us disabled people as much as I

> am able to and I think I am making a difference so keep your

fingers

> crossed. We deserve better benefits and rights!

>

> If you have any complaints or suggestions please e-mail me!

> I'm fighting like hell for us! Your name or e-mail name will never

> ever be used or posted to anyone but myself.

> I may ask you a question or two back about your feelings but trust

me

> it won't ever go to anyone else with your name or e-mail address.

> I promise!

>

> Love to you all,

>

> TJ

>

> TJ

[Guest guest]

Each one has their own opinions. But judgment does not belong here when we

come here for simply unconditional love mc

[Guest guest]

I hope you were not referring to my response because I don't believe

I have ever judged anyone here. We are all entitled to our opinions

and I think that is what I gave, not judgement. Just for the record.

Take good care,

> Each one has their own opinions. But judgment does not belong here

when we

> come here for simply unconditional love mc