Guest guest Posted April 20, 2002 Report Share Posted April 20, 2002 This is not a policy issue. Not all docs can suit everyone's needs and I get that-.That's not the crux of the issue. I was told things by that are COUNTER to the standards of the ABPRS. Kolb had addressed this "microsurgery" bullshit info too and said it was false and misleading and against the rules of the ABPRS. This was 's excuse for the anesthesia issue and she said "It CAN'T be done (mastopexy under local/IV) and she told that other docs who told me it could are WRONG to do this because they can't do the job well. Kolb was one of the many doctors who states mastopexy can be done under local/with sedation. Not all docs want to do mastopexy under local/sedation and THIS IS FINE (got that)? but to mislead someone is not fine! To tell them their disease and thyroid is not effected by general anesthesia (in a calloused way) and is bunk in their head is WRONG. To tell a patient that the doctor must be trained in MICROSURGERY to do a mastopexy is inaccurate (though like an idiot, I believed her and as a result checked off certain surgeons from my shopping list). To tell you they will talk to Feng about it and get back to you and don't (after 2 calls and 5 e-mails) is VERY CHEESY and that's my point. Her not wanting to treat my situation is one thing, just say "we use general anesthesia" only, would have been more professional. I have been told this by other docs and although disappointed. I'm OK with this. Policy is policy--I got that. Misinformation in an unprofessional manner should not be policy. And coming forth to share such information should be discussed and met with greater understanding and perhaps a grain of sympathy for a fellow implant sufferer. -Marie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2002 Report Share Posted April 20, 2002 I have been reading some of the discussions about Dr. Lu-Feng and since many are researching which surgeon to go to, I thought I would put in my 2 cents worth. First of all, when I was researching explantation, I had it narrowed down to Dr. Kolb or Dr. Lu-Feng. I thought BOTH would be excellant, but chose Dr. Feng because I have family and friends within a few hours of Dr. Feng's clinic. I have never had EITHER Dr. Feng or Dr. Kolb be disrespectful, rude or unkind to me. Dr. Feng's staff does NOT keep up with email as well as I would like to see, and Dr. Kolb did reply to my emails immediately. However, every time I have ever called Dr. Feng's office, I have been treated with the utmost respect. I have never been rushed, spoken " down to " , or been denied help in any area I have called about. We at Explantation.com, get many emails from all over the world. We also hear from many of Dr. Feng's patients and feature stories from her patients. We have NEVER had ONE complaint about her or her staff being rude or unkind in any way. (By the way, we still have NO feature stories by any of Dr. Kolb's patients, so if you are one of her explantation or explantation and mastopexy patients, we would LOVE to have your story and photos. It is NOT by choice that we have not featured any of her patient's stories. Dr. Kolb, if you have any patients you think may be interested, let us know, ok?) Here is my theory on this issue: Medical staffs and assistants are merely human beings. They can and do make errors, just as all of us. If they feel they are being interviewed critically, or if they are spoken to with " an attitude " , if they feel the person they are speaking to is angry or bitter, if they feel they are being scrutinized or being attacked - they may react in a rather defensive tone. They are human. If they are told the policies of the surgeon and clinic they represent, and someone is unwilling to go by the policies, they probably feel they are NOT THE RIGHT CLINIC AND/OR SURGEON to suit that particular woman's needs. I also have several close relatives in the medical profession. The physicians and surgeons expect their assistants and staff to carefully discern which people are most likely to be appreciative and cooperative of their medical expertise. When a patient is very contradictory, defensive, offensive, seems to be hard to please, unwilling to accept their policies and procedures, THEY GET A RED FLAG UP, too. In this day of medical malpractice suits, and the fear of being sued, they MUST try to be honest and give information that will allow the potential patient THE RIGHT TO CHOSE if they are indeed the surgeon/Dr. the person is really looking for. I accept that Dr. Feng has her reasons for the policies she has in her surgical practice. If I did not, I would not have gone to her. I asked many questions, as to " why " , she did or didn't do certain things - and she readily answered my questions. I am a KIND person. I LISTEN, and I am not defensive or argumentative. Therefore, I am treated with respect. If anyone has called Dr. Feng's office and not gotten the information they feel will satisfy their medical needs, they have the right not to chose her. If Dr. Feng's staff talks to any persons who make it clear THEY WILL NOT BE HAPPY WITH THEIR POLICIES, they have a right NOT to treat them. PERIOD. This does not make them a bad medical insitution. Some physicians are not intimated by demanding patients. My son happens to be a difficult, demanding patient - who is very intelligent, inquisitive, but impatient and sometimes sounds unkind. He often is treated curtly by his physicians. I have been with him - and watching his method of communication and his level of communication skills, I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY DR.S do NOT like to TREAT my son. I would not treat him either! The physicians who HAVE had patience with him and treat him kindly, no matter how he talks to them, I admire and respect greatly. They would NOT have to treat him. He has been through a lot and has many reasons to be bitter with the medical industry as a whole. I won't go into all the errors and injustices he has had in his short life of 25 years, but maybe some day I will. The fact still remains - he has AN ATTITUDE and IT SHOWS. I am satisfied with the reasons Dr. Feng gave me for not repairing my left breast (when I had complications), under local anesthesia. I had no right to expect her to go against her own policies and convictions and if I would have wanted it done under local, it would have been my responsibility to find another surgeon who would meet MY EXPECTATIONS. I chose to trust HER and her good reasons. That is my right. It is HER right. Bottom line, if I can tell when someone is getting aggressive or testy with me - I can get defensive and RED FLAGS go up. It is possible that has encountered some people who have made it quite clear to her - they would never submit to Dr. Feng's policies and practices. She may not return calls or may would seem to be less accomodating than she is to those of us who are willing to use their clinic with full trust. I don't think that clinic is in need of patients, and would have no need to coax a person to comply with their procedures. Is it possible that some people (even if they don't MEAN TO BE) SOUND very critical and demanding and send red flags up to others? When I talk to someone who sounds negative, I am MUCH less willing to deal with them, than when I talk to someone who is kind, positive and has good communication skills. I think a course on effective communication skills should be required in high school. There are certain phrases and ways people communicate, which compel certain responses. In my opinion, many of the misunderstandings people mention, are just ineffective communication skills. I have such a deep respect for the wonderful, gifted, surgeons who have chosen to help breast implanted women. All of them. It goes so deep, that I don't even refer to them as " Feng " or " Kolb " or " Huang " . They have put many hours into their studying and have made huge sacrifices to our cause and to give our lives back to us. I figure the least I can do, is address them, and speak of them in the greatest respect. That is just ME. I never, in ANY WAY, want to speak negative of them. They are HUMAN. They can also make mistakes. They are dedicated and have chosen a path of high resistence. It is our responsibility to encourage them and show them respect. There are TOO FEW OF THEM OUT THERE who are willing to deal with us. Hopefully, I have not offended anyone. I feel very defensive of my dear Dr. Feng, and all of her wonderful staff. They saved my life, my breasts, and they were my angels of mercy in the greatest time of need. Could other Dr.s have done this? I surely hope so, but let me praise them and tell my side of this saga. If feels anything like I do, she is desparately trying to keep Dr. Feng from being judged in areas she doesn't even have a chance to defend herself in. There are many young women out there, needing a good surgeon. I would hate for someone to rule out Dr. Feng, just because one or two people found her to NOT be the right surgeon for THEIR particular needs or desires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2002 Report Share Posted April 20, 2002 There are articles in the plastic surgery literature about doing reduction mammplasties under local with sedation so doing mastopexies is not that unusual. . -----Original Message-----From: perlesetlacet@... [mailto:perlesetlacet@...]Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 4:51 PM Subject: Re: Dr. Feng & My ExperienceThis is not a policy issue. Not all docs can suit everyone's needs and I get that-.That's not the crux of the issue. I was told things by that are COUNTER to the standards of the ABPRS. Kolb had addressed this "microsurgery" bullshit info too and said it was false and misleading and against the rules of the ABPRS. This was 's excuse for the anesthesia issue and she said "It CAN'T be done (mastopexy under local/IV) and she told that other docs who told me it could are WRONG to do this because they can't do the job well. Kolb was one of the many doctors who states mastopexy can be done under local/with sedation. Not all docs want to do mastopexy under local/sedation and THIS IS FINE (got that)? but to mislead someone is not fine! To tell them their disease and thyroid is not effected by general anesthesia (in a calloused way) and is bunk in their head is WRONG. To tell a patient that the doctor must be trained in MICROSURGERY to do a mastopexy is inaccurate (though like an idiot, I believed her and as a result checked off certain surgeons from my shopping list). To tell you they will talk to Feng about it and get back to you and don't (after 2 calls and 5 e-mails) is VERY CHEESY and that's my point. Her not wanting to treat my situation is one thing, just say "we use general anesthesia" only, would have been more professional. I have been told this by other docs and although disappointed. I'm OK with this. Policy is policy--I got that. Misinformation in an unprofessional manner should not be policy. And coming forth to share such information should be discussed and met with greater understanding and perhaps a grain of sympathy for a fellow implant sufferer.-Marie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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