Guest guest Posted January 8, 2003 Report Share Posted January 8, 2003 Since everyone is outing themselves I guess I will too. I've been lurking for about 2 weeks. I'm 21, still live at home and recently found out my mom has BPD. Diagnosed by me. I'm a nursing student, and realized it when doing my mental health course last semester. There is lots going on right now with me, nada and foo. My sister finally got the courage to move out in the middle of one of nada's rages. She just couldn't take it anymore. My sister and I are very close. Nada has always treated her as the " bad " one (most of the time anyway) and I rotate between " good " and " bad. " Since this happened last week she has increased her Distortion campaign of sister and I to grandmother, uncle, her friends, etc. They all believe her. They don't know about the BPD. The only ones who know are sister and my dad but he is in denial. They have been married for almost 29 years and don't get along at all but are still together. Reading all your posts has helped. I've also read SWOE and have ordered UBM. Thanks, Sony --- " lauranne35 " wrote: <HR> <html><body> <tt> <BR> > Have been lurking for weeks, and working up the gumption to post. <BR> Hello to you all and congratulations on your courage. <BR> > <BR> > Nommer<BR> > <BR> <BR> <BR> Hi Nommer :-)<BR> I lurked for ages before i finally posted a couple of weeks ago, but <BR> it helped just to read other people's stories about dealing with PD <BR> parents. Like some others here i also post to the NOnPD-Oasis7 <BR> group, as my nada is NPD/APD and my fada was NPD. Hope you find <BR> being here is helpful to you.<BR> A<BR> <BR> </tt> <br> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2> <tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC> <td align=center><font size= " -1 " color=#003399><b> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2003 Report Share Posted January 8, 2003 Since everyone is outing themselves I guess I will too. I've been lurking for about 2 weeks. I'm 21, still live at home and recently found out my mom has BPD. Diagnosed by me. I'm a nursing student, and realized it when doing my mental health course last semester. There is lots going on right now with me, nada and foo. My sister finally got the courage to move out in the middle of one of nada's rages. She just couldn't take it anymore. My sister and I are very close. Nada has always treated her as the " bad " one (most of the time anyway) and I rotate between " good " and " bad. " Since this happened last week she has increased her Distortion campaign of sister and I to grandmother, uncle, her friends, etc. They all believe her. They don't know about the BPD. The only ones who know are sister and my dad but he is in denial. They have been married for almost 29 years and don't get along at all but are still together. Reading all your posts has helped. I've also read SWOE and have ordered UBM. Thanks, Sony --- " lauranne35 " wrote: <HR> <html><body> <tt> <BR> > Have been lurking for weeks, and working up the gumption to post. <BR> Hello to you all and congratulations on your courage. <BR> > <BR> > Nommer<BR> > <BR> <BR> <BR> Hi Nommer :-)<BR> I lurked for ages before i finally posted a couple of weeks ago, but <BR> it helped just to read other people's stories about dealing with PD <BR> parents. Like some others here i also post to the NOnPD-Oasis7 <BR> group, as my nada is NPD/APD and my fada was NPD. Hope you find <BR> being here is helpful to you.<BR> A<BR> <BR> </tt> <br> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2> <tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC> <td align=center><font size= " -1 " color=#003399><b> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2003 Report Share Posted January 8, 2003 Hi Sony, I'm glad you discovered the truth so young. I was 42 and I wish I'd known years ago, when I could have made choices based on that knowledge. I'm glad you decided to come out of lurking..we can always use new material to discuss. Your sister is welcome too if she wants to join us. Ilene Sony wrote: >Since everyone is outing themselves I guess I will >too. I've been lurking for about 2 weeks. I'm 21, >still live at home and recently found out my mom has >BPD. Diagnosed by me. I'm a nursing student, and >realized it when doing my mental health course last >semester. There is lots going on right now with me, >nada and foo. My sister finally got the courage to >move out in the middle of one of nada's rages. She >just couldn't take it anymore. My sister and I are >very close. Nada has always treated her as the " bad " >one (most of the time anyway) and I rotate between > " good " and " bad. " Since this happened last week she >has increased her Distortion campaign of sister and I >to grandmother, uncle, her friends, etc. They all >believe her. They don't know about the BPD. The only >ones who know are sister and my dad but he is in >denial. They have been married for almost 29 years and >don't get along at all but are still together. >Reading all your posts has helped. I've also read SWOE >and have ordered UBM. >Thanks, >Sony > > > --- " lauranne35 " > wrote: ><HR> ><html><body> > > ><tt> ><BR> > > >>Have been lurking for weeks, and working up the >> >> >gumption to post. <BR> >Hello to you all and congratulations on your courage. ><BR> > > >><BR> >>Nommer<BR> >><BR> >> >> ><BR> ><BR> >Hi Nommer :-)<BR> >I lurked for ages before i finally posted a couple of >weeks ago, but <BR> >it helped just to read other people's stories about >dealing with PD <BR> >parents. Like some others here i also post to the >NOnPD-Oasis7 <BR> >group, as my nada is NPD/APD and my fada was NPD. Hope >you find <BR> >being here is helpful to you.<BR> > A<BR> ><BR> ></tt> > ><br> > ><!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> > ><table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2> ><tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC> ><td align=center><font size= " -1 " >color=#003399><b> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2003 Report Share Posted January 8, 2003 Hi Sony, I'm glad you discovered the truth so young. I was 42 and I wish I'd known years ago, when I could have made choices based on that knowledge. I'm glad you decided to come out of lurking..we can always use new material to discuss. Your sister is welcome too if she wants to join us. Ilene Sony wrote: >Since everyone is outing themselves I guess I will >too. I've been lurking for about 2 weeks. I'm 21, >still live at home and recently found out my mom has >BPD. Diagnosed by me. I'm a nursing student, and >realized it when doing my mental health course last >semester. There is lots going on right now with me, >nada and foo. My sister finally got the courage to >move out in the middle of one of nada's rages. She >just couldn't take it anymore. My sister and I are >very close. Nada has always treated her as the " bad " >one (most of the time anyway) and I rotate between > " good " and " bad. " Since this happened last week she >has increased her Distortion campaign of sister and I >to grandmother, uncle, her friends, etc. They all >believe her. They don't know about the BPD. The only >ones who know are sister and my dad but he is in >denial. They have been married for almost 29 years and >don't get along at all but are still together. >Reading all your posts has helped. I've also read SWOE >and have ordered UBM. >Thanks, >Sony > > > --- " lauranne35 " > wrote: ><HR> ><html><body> > > ><tt> ><BR> > > >>Have been lurking for weeks, and working up the >> >> >gumption to post. <BR> >Hello to you all and congratulations on your courage. ><BR> > > >><BR> >>Nommer<BR> >><BR> >> >> ><BR> ><BR> >Hi Nommer :-)<BR> >I lurked for ages before i finally posted a couple of >weeks ago, but <BR> >it helped just to read other people's stories about >dealing with PD <BR> >parents. Like some others here i also post to the >NOnPD-Oasis7 <BR> >group, as my nada is NPD/APD and my fada was NPD. Hope >you find <BR> >being here is helpful to you.<BR> > A<BR> ><BR> ></tt> > ><br> > ><!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> > ><table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2> ><tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC> ><td align=center><font size= " -1 " >color=#003399><b> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2003 Report Share Posted January 8, 2003 << Hi Sony, I'm glad you discovered the truth so young. I was 42 and I wish I'd known years ago, when I could have made choices based on that knowledge. >> The problem is that I knew by the time I was 20 that there was something really wrong with my mother, but I didn't know what it was called. Therapists always figured there was something wrong with me. That is their bias, and it has a reasonable side, because they can only treat their patient, not the one who cause their patient's problems. But for me it just added to the guilt. So now I am 58 and if things don't change a whole lot faster than they did in the past I won't live long enough to get on top of this. - Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2003 Report Share Posted January 8, 2003 << Hi Sony, I'm glad you discovered the truth so young. I was 42 and I wish I'd known years ago, when I could have made choices based on that knowledge. >> The problem is that I knew by the time I was 20 that there was something really wrong with my mother, but I didn't know what it was called. Therapists always figured there was something wrong with me. That is their bias, and it has a reasonable side, because they can only treat their patient, not the one who cause their patient's problems. But for me it just added to the guilt. So now I am 58 and if things don't change a whole lot faster than they did in the past I won't live long enough to get on top of this. - Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2003 Report Share Posted January 8, 2003 Thanks Ilene. I'm glad I discovered the truth too. I always knew there was something drasticlly wrong with her. It was like a huge weight off my shoulders to realize the truth, but I also find the knowledge of her BPD also brings about new burdons like whether to tell family/friends or not, knowing that she will likely never get better, etc. I've also been figuring out a lot of things about myself. For example my inability to talk about my feelings. My feelings and opinions were always belittled by nada and I now believe my inability to talk about them is a direct result of my upbringing by nada. I have almost failed courses because I am " very poor at self reflection " , it took me over 1 year to tell my boyfriend the truth about my mother (and it was only a very sugarcoated version), and I am even having great difficulty writing this email to a group of people who don't even know me and I know you all understand. But I've decided I'm going to try to change me! So here goes, I'm pressing send.... sony > > >Since everyone is outing themselves I guess I will > >too. I've been lurking for about 2 weeks. I'm 21, > >still live at home and recently found out my mom has > >BPD. Diagnosed by me. I'm a nursing student, and > >realized it when doing my mental health course last > >semester. There is lots going on right now with me, > >nada and foo. My sister finally got the courage to > >move out in the middle of one of nada's rages. She > >just couldn't take it anymore. My sister and I are > >very close. Nada has always treated her as the " bad " > >one (most of the time anyway) and I rotate between > > " good " and " bad. " Since this happened last week she > >has increased her Distortion campaign of sister and I > >to grandmother, uncle, her friends, etc. They all > >believe her. They don't know about the BPD. The only > >ones who know are sister and my dad but he is in > >denial. They have been married for almost 29 years and > >don't get along at all but are still together. > >Reading all your posts has helped. I've also read SWOE > >and have ordered UBM. > >Thanks, > >Sony > > > ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2003 Report Share Posted January 8, 2003 Thanks Ilene. I'm glad I discovered the truth too. I always knew there was something drasticlly wrong with her. It was like a huge weight off my shoulders to realize the truth, but I also find the knowledge of her BPD also brings about new burdons like whether to tell family/friends or not, knowing that she will likely never get better, etc. I've also been figuring out a lot of things about myself. For example my inability to talk about my feelings. My feelings and opinions were always belittled by nada and I now believe my inability to talk about them is a direct result of my upbringing by nada. I have almost failed courses because I am " very poor at self reflection " , it took me over 1 year to tell my boyfriend the truth about my mother (and it was only a very sugarcoated version), and I am even having great difficulty writing this email to a group of people who don't even know me and I know you all understand. But I've decided I'm going to try to change me! So here goes, I'm pressing send.... sony > > >Since everyone is outing themselves I guess I will > >too. I've been lurking for about 2 weeks. I'm 21, > >still live at home and recently found out my mom has > >BPD. Diagnosed by me. I'm a nursing student, and > >realized it when doing my mental health course last > >semester. There is lots going on right now with me, > >nada and foo. My sister finally got the courage to > >move out in the middle of one of nada's rages. She > >just couldn't take it anymore. My sister and I are > >very close. Nada has always treated her as the " bad " > >one (most of the time anyway) and I rotate between > > " good " and " bad. " Since this happened last week she > >has increased her Distortion campaign of sister and I > >to grandmother, uncle, her friends, etc. They all > >believe her. They don't know about the BPD. The only > >ones who know are sister and my dad but he is in > >denial. They have been married for almost 29 years and > >don't get along at all but are still together. > >Reading all your posts has helped. I've also read SWOE > >and have ordered UBM. > >Thanks, > >Sony > > > ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2003 Report Share Posted January 14, 2003 Hi Sony and welcome, Posting here is one of the best things you can do. I stayed stuck at the beginning of the journey out of OZ for a long time because I was afraid to post. I was afraid of nada and of my ex. This is a supportive group of people. I used to think that my nada was the worst. Well, there is nothing my nada hasn't said or done that hasn't been done by someone else's nada. It was by posting here that I found the courage to divorce my nada and quit putting up with her garbage. I still have a long way to go, but its alot better than it was. Hania I know you all understand. But I've decided I'm going to try to change me! So here goes, I'm pressing send.... sony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Why not make cheese instead of dumping? Farmstead cheese is HOT I just joined the group- I am on the look for 4 or 5 more dairy cows. I am in NYS, I have had my raw milk permit for the last 4 months. For goat and cows milk, the goats milk is selling much better then the cows. I want to try to ship the cows milk instead of dumping it every 3 days. It is a lot of hard work but I love my critters. We are in a depressed area as far as money and jobs. I hope to learn a lot here-- I have a lot to learn. Liz in NY teacupfarm.com __________________________________________________________ Like puzzles? Play free games & earn great prizes. Play Clink now. http://club.live.com/clink.aspx?icid=clink_hotmailtextlink2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 I just looked at your website and saw that the goat milk and the cow milk are the same price. Where I live (Wis.), goat milk costs twice as much as cow milk. You might adjust your prices in order to sell more cow milk. > > I just joined the group- I am on the look for 4 or 5 more dairy cows. I am > in NYS, I have had my raw milk permit for the last 4 months. For goat and > cows milk, the goats milk is selling much better then the cows. I want to > try to ship the cows milk instead of dumping it every 3 days. It is a lot of > hard work but I love my critters. We are in a depressed area as far as money > and jobs. > I hope to learn a lot here-- I have a lot to learn. > > Liz in NY > teacupfarm.com > > _________________________________________________________________ > Like puzzles? Play free games & earn great prizes. Play Clink now. > http://club.live.com/clink.aspx?icid=clink_hotmailtextlink2 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 I tend to agree:the farm I work at sells goat milk $5 for a half-gallon, cow at $3 for 1/2 gallon or $5 for a gallon. I guess you can consider what others near you are charging in your decision, that's probably more important. I just looked at your website and saw that the goat milk and the cow milk are the same price. Where I live (Wis.), goat milk costs twice as much as cow milk. You might adjust your prices in order to sell more cow milk. > > I just joined the group- I am on the look for 4 or 5 more dairy cows. I am > in NYS, I have had my raw milk permit for the last 4 months. For goat and > cows milk, the goats milk is selling much better then the cows. I want to > try to ship the cows milk instead of dumping it every 3 days. It is a lot of > hard work but I love my critters. We are in a depressed area as far as money > and jobs. > I hope to learn a lot here-- I have a lot to learn. > > Liz in NY > teacupfarm.com > > __________________________________________________________ > Like puzzles? Play free games & earn great prizes. Play Clink now. > http://club.live.com/clink.aspx?icid=clink_hotmailtextlink2 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 Thanks for taking a look- My goats milk will be seasonal si I guess many may swich back to cows milk then. We are in a very depresed area of Ny as far as jobs, taxes and utilities are killing us all. Thanks for your ideas-Liz > >Reply-To: RawDairy >To: RawDairy >Subject: Re: Re: saying hello >Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:37:19 -0400 > >I tend to agree:the farm I work at sells goat milk $5 for a half-gallon, >cow >at $3 for 1/2 gallon or $5 for a gallon. I guess you can consider what >others near you are charging in your decision, that's probably more >important. > > >> >> I just looked at your website and saw that the goat milk and the cow >>milk are the same >>price. Where I live (Wis.), goat milk costs twice as much as cow milk. You >>might adjust your >>prices in order to sell more cow milk. >> >> >> > >> > I just joined the group- I am on the look for 4 or 5 more dairy cows. I >>am >> > in NYS, I have had my raw milk permit for the last 4 months. For goat >>and >> > cows milk, the goats milk is selling much better then the cows. I want >>to >> > try to ship the cows milk instead of dumping it every 3 days. It is a >>lot of >> > hard work but I love my critters. We are in a depressed area as far as >>money >> > and jobs. >> > I hope to learn a lot here-- I have a lot to learn. >> > >> > Liz in NY >> > teacupfarm.com >> > >> > __________________________________________________________ >> > Like puzzles? Play free games & earn great prizes. Play Clink now. >> > http://club.live.com/clink.aspx?icid=clink_hotmailtextlink2 >> > >> >> >> _________________________________________________________________ Make every IM count. Download Messenger and join the i’m Initiative now. It’s free. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGHM_June07 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 Hi, It's been awhile since I posted so I thought i'd drop in for a chat. I was reading an article on weight loss today, it said to " Dont even think about jubk food, it is not an option. Focus on what you can eat, not on what you cant eat, it will make it much easier " . Also, when setting goals, there is no " I will try " or " I hope " , it is " I can " and 'I will " and " when I set my goal " . D, my stats were like yours 16 months ago. I'm 170 cm, was 110 kg's, banded March 07 and i'm now 66 kg's. Good luck with your choice of Dr, you wont regret getting banded. Laurel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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