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Thanks all who answered me. My frustration is not with the offending

food (I think I know what it is) but with the fact that my health in

this department (allergies) has gone downhill not up. Prior to CR I

NEVER HAD THIS PROBLEM. One of my strong motivations for starting CR

was not so much the live longer part but the live better part ie. to be

more healthy and avoid illness. In this instance, I have really gone

downhill as previously I could always eat this food (which happens to

be the spice ginger) and never got any reaction, much less such a

violent one!

> I think I have had allergies in recent years also, but have never quite been

> sure what has triggered it. My symptoms are tingling in the lips and then

> swelling starting in the lips and progressing through my face and sometimes

> including my tongue.

>

> I've heard that vegetables in the nightshade plant group can be a cause of

> allergic reaction. Their skin harbors most of the toxin (Belladonna) so

> peeling the vegetable does help. Reducing the amount of the skin or number

> of times per week that you eat the offending vegetable can also help. The

> ones to avoid: tomatoes, potatoes, peppers and eggplant. I do eat them, but

> in significantly smaller portions (usually without skin) than before.

>

> The last incidence I had was a soup served at a very good restaurant; in

> fact, a restaurant with many " healthy " choices on their menu.

>

> When I phoned for the ingredients in the soup, the manager was very helpful.

> The only thing that I had not eaten in a long time was soy sauce. I can eat

> tofu and the frozen tofu desserts, if I want, but there is something about

> the fermented soy that seems to set me off. I've been free of symptoms

> since avoiding it. No, I do not have a gluten problem; I use whole grain

> breads, including real whole wheat bread, without any deleterious effects.

>

> A friend has used the avoidance diet to determine the foods to which she is

> allergic; it was a slow process, but has paid off for her. I guess it

> depends on how much you are hurting as to whether or not it is worth it.

>

> I hope this will be of some help.

>

> Ruth P.

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Francesca wrote:

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> My frustration is not with the offending

> food (I think I know what it is) but with the fact that my health in

> this department (allergies) has gone downhill not up.

If it's any consolation, my doc was explaining to me the other day that

allergies are a sign that you have a hyper-vigilant immune system, not a

depressed one. He also pointed out that in developing countries where

hygiene is poor and infectious disease is prevalent, asthma and allergies

are almost non-existent.

From that one could conclude that your body has gone overboard in protecting

you against irritating foods, not because you are in poor health, but

because it has nothing bigger to worry about. So smile and skip the ginger!

Dixie

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> >

> > My frustration is not with the offending

> > food (I think I know what it is) but with the fact that my health in

> > this department (allergies) has gone downhill not up.

>

> If it's any consolation, my doc was explaining to me the other day that

> allergies are a sign that you have a hyper-vigilant immune system, not a

> depressed one. He also pointed out that in developing countries where

> hygiene is poor and infectious disease is prevalent, asthma and allergies

> are almost non-existent.

>

> From that one could conclude that your body has gone overboard in protecting

> you against irritating foods, not because you are in poor health, but

> because it has nothing bigger to worry about. So smile and skip the ginger!

>

> Dixie

Dixie: this is the best news yet!!!! Of course I'm still itchy all

over and very uncomfortable, but at least it's for a good reason.

Thank you, thank you, thank you for that info. May I post it on the

" big guy's board " ? BTW while going to the doc for the allergy problem,

I had blood work done and we'll see just how much my immune system has

improved.

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Francesca,

As one who has suffered many food allergies IMHO I don't think it is CR that

is at fault. I know that eating one particular food can lead to a sudden

physical reaction, often violent, against that food.

Could it be that you were eating spice ginger much more frequently than

before you went on CR? Or in greater quantities? Perhaps to make the diet

more palatable or reduce glucose?

See if eliminating it and spreading your food choices keep you away from

trouble. If, after balancing your food choices, allergies keep showing up,

THEN I would reconsider CR.

Just my take on it.

Best and thanks for a great list

MM

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> Francesca,

> As one who has suffered many food allergies IMHO I don't think it is CR that

> is at fault. I know that eating one particular food can lead to a sudden

> physical reaction, often violent, against that food.

> Could it be that you were eating spice ginger much more frequently than

> before you went on CR? Or in greater quantities? Perhaps to make the diet

> more palatable or reduce glucose?

> See if eliminating it and spreading your food choices keep you away from

> trouble. If, after balancing your food choices, allergies keep showing up,

> THEN I would reconsider CR.

> Just my take on it.

>

> Best and thanks for a great list

> MM

Thanks MM. Actually I wasn't BLAMING CR as much as disappointed that

CR wasn't " protecting " me. Of course Dixie's post puts the whole thing

in an entirely different light.

Warren , that dear man, gave me another big hint of a possible

cause - flax seeds - an addition to my diet for the past couple of

months. Apparently the seed (not the oil) is very toxic to many

people. That info coupled with the fact that I had never ingested flax

seeds until very recently (as I'm sure most of us hadn't) makes me very

suspicious of them as another possible cause.

>

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It is my understanding that MSG occurs naturally in soy sauce. (I don't

think it would have to be listed as an ingredient unless it is added) Could

that be the culprit, do you think?

>The only thing that I had not eaten in a long time was soy sauce. I can

eat

>tofu and the frozen tofu desserts, if I want, but there is something about

>the fermented soy that seems to set me off

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Thanks for your reply, . I wasn't aware the MSG is included in soy

sauce. That just may be it. Will look into it. - ruth

It is my understanding that MSG occurs naturally in soy sauce. (I don't

think it would have to be listed as an ingredient unless it is added) Could

that be the culprit, do you think?

>The only thing that I had not eaten in a long time was soy sauce. I can

eat

>tofu and the frozen tofu desserts, if I want, but there is something about

>the fermented soy that seems to set me off

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Hi Fran,

Exactly what is spice ginger?

Regards.

----- Original Message -----

From: <fskelton@...>

< >

Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 12:22 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: allergies

> Thanks all who answered me. My frustration is not with the offending

> food (I think I know what it is) but with the fact that my health in

> this department (allergies) has gone downhill not up. Prior to CR I

> NEVER HAD THIS PROBLEM. One of my strong motivations for starting CR

> was not so much the live longer part but the live better part ie. to be

> more healthy and avoid illness. In this instance, I have really gone

> downhill as previously I could always eat this food (which happens to

> be the spice ginger) and never got any reaction, much less such a

> violent one!

>

>

>

>

>

> > I think I have had allergies in recent years also, but have never quite

been

> > sure what has triggered it. My symptoms are tingling in the lips and

then

> > swelling starting in the lips and progressing through my face and

sometimes

> > including my tongue.

> >

> > I've heard that vegetables in the nightshade plant group can be a cause

of

> > allergic reaction. Their skin harbors most of the toxin (Belladonna) so

> > peeling the vegetable does help. Reducing the amount of the skin or

number

> > of times per week that you eat the offending vegetable can also help.

The

> > ones to avoid: tomatoes, potatoes, peppers and eggplant. I do eat them,

but

> > in significantly smaller portions (usually without skin) than before.

> >

> > The last incidence I had was a soup served at a very good restaurant; in

> > fact, a restaurant with many " healthy " choices on their menu.

> >

> > When I phoned for the ingredients in the soup, the manager was very

helpful.

> > The only thing that I had not eaten in a long time was soy sauce. I can

eat

> > tofu and the frozen tofu desserts, if I want, but there is something

about

> > the fermented soy that seems to set me off. I've been free of symptoms

> > since avoiding it. No, I do not have a gluten problem; I use whole

grain

> > breads, including real whole wheat bread, without any deleterious

effects.

> >

> > A friend has used the avoidance diet to determine the foods to which she

is

> > allergic; it was a slow process, but has paid off for her. I guess it

> > depends on how much you are hurting as to whether or not it is worth

it.

> >

> > I hope this will be of some help.

> >

> > Ruth P.

>

>

>

>

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> Hi Fran,

> Exactly what is spice ginger?

> Regards.

>

Perhaps if it's written this way - ginger, one of the spices used to

flavor foods.

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In a message dated 07/31/2001 3:45:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, brixman@... writes:

"the more liver cleansing you do, the less you'll suffer with allergies,"

"Dr. WATER" (his countrymen call him) says ALLERGIES Disappear in less than 45 days using Water (add Salt)...

FOUR things He Guarantees will GO AWAY....(or Your $ back)

Depression

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After years of allergy medications (antihistimines),

all I accomplished was eyes so dry that the corneas

tore at night. Terribly painful! They were worst after

an " allergy " exposure . . .i.e., someone's perfume,

tobacco smoke, etc. I thought that, if I was getting

so sick from " allergies " while taking antihistimines,

I would be much worse without them. .. wrong!

Finally, when the doctor sent me to an eye specialist,

I asked to see an allergist. Come to find out my

doctor had a prejudice against allergists, in favor of

antihistimines. When I saw the allergist, he took one

look at me (no black circles under my eyes) and told

me that he would test me, but he could tell

immediately that I was not an " allergic " person. What

I was was chemically sensitive and that all the

antihistimines in the world wouldn't help. What I

needed to do was to stay away from the products that

caused these reactions.

I hadn't made the implant connection either. Only

after having my implants out for some time did I

realize that my sensitivities were greatly diminished.

I still have some trouble (the air in the Pheonix area

for one), but, on a daily basis, they are nothing like

they were when I had implants.

Aside from the physical effects of chemical

sensitivites, the thing that affected me most was

people's insensitivity to me when I had to protect

myself . . . they took it as a personal afront to them

when I couldn't travel with them in a close car, sit

near them at a meal or meeting, etc. One lady who sat

close to me made a point of dousing herself with

something that made me very ill.

Rogene

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RogeneI too have this happen, but now it is an on off thing.

Certain perfumes candles will kill me at times. Throat gets real

irritated my glands swell in minutes. Then If I get out of the

situation, within an hour I clear up.In the past, before explant, this

would lead to a full blown sinus infection. We have people at work who

like to burn candles; sometimes it hurts me sometimes it doesn't.I can

see an improvement. But I really don't think candles belong in the

workplace either. I've made enemies with some for this. And it's

sad.

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I am really ok with most scents but some are bad, I wear this vanilla musk

sometimes and find that it works well for me, but I also found that cleaners

really make me feel sick, like Lysol, pinesol etc. I hate cleaning cause

this stuff makes me feel puky.

Love

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From: " Rogene S " <saxony01@...>

< >

Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 10:29 AM

Subject: Re: Allergies

> I've found that natural scents are not a problem. It's

> the ones that are created via the " magic of chemistry "

> that are so bad.

>

> Rogene

>

>

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I've found that natural scents are not a problem. It's

the ones that are created via the " magic of chemistry "

that are so bad.

Rogene

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All cleaners eat away at me and make me sick as well. I find that the

vanilla spray from sephora works well for me also. It is $2.00 and is a

little purse spray. It is not perfumey at all. It is awesome. If you are

interested it is at www.sephora.com

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From: " Heer " <idagirl@...>

< >

Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 12:27 PM

Subject: Re: Allergies

> I am really ok with most scents but some are bad, I wear this vanilla musk

> sometimes and find that it works well for me, but I also found that

cleaners

> really make me feel sick, like Lysol, pinesol etc. I hate cleaning cause

> this stuff makes me feel puky.

>

> Love

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " Rogene S " <saxony01@...>

> < >

> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 10:29 AM

> Subject: Re: Allergies

>

>

> > I've found that natural scents are not a problem. It's

> > the ones that are created via the " magic of chemistry "

> > that are so bad.

> >

> > Rogene

> >

> >

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Thanks so much Ang, I am totally addicted to the warm vanilla sugar body

lotion and soap that they sell at bath and body works. It is awesome!

I need to find a good vanilla scent as well. I will check it out!

----- Original Message -----

From: " Angelika " <angmattoni@...>

< >

Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 1:07 PM

Subject: Re: Allergies

> All cleaners eat away at me and make me sick as well. I find that the

> vanilla spray from sephora works well for me also. It is $2.00 and is a

> little purse spray. It is not perfumey at all. It is awesome. If you

are

> interested it is at www.sephora.com

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " Heer " <idagirl@...>

> < >

> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 12:27 PM

> Subject: Re: Allergies

>

>

> > I am really ok with most scents but some are bad, I wear this vanilla

musk

> > sometimes and find that it works well for me, but I also found that

> cleaners

> > really make me feel sick, like Lysol, pinesol etc. I hate cleaning cause

> > this stuff makes me feel puky.

> >

> > Love

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: " Rogene S " <saxony01@...>

> > < >

> > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 10:29 AM

> > Subject: Re: Allergies

> >

> >

> > > I've found that natural scents are not a problem. It's

> > > the ones that are created via the " magic of chemistry "

> > > that are so bad.

> > >

> > > Rogene

> > >

> > >

> > > __________________________________________________

> > >

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Thanks ,

I am not allergic to almonds so I will try that.

Thanks Marie

----- Original Message -----

From: Braun Doherty

Marie Deady

Cc: low dose naltrexone

Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 9:47 AM

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Allergies

Marie- You have to try ALMOND BUTTER. It is delicious and better for you. You'll probably have to go to a health food store to get it, but well worth the trip!! Hope you like it. Marie Deady wrote:

I know that a lot of you have food allergies. I have a lot but two that really bother me are peanuts and sugar. I need to find a substitute for peanut butter. Does anyone know of something that can be eaten that is close to peanut butter without the peanuts and sugar. Actually any kind of spread. I bought a jar of soy butter. That is gross. I miss my peanut butter.HelpMarie

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Thanks for your help. I just came home from buying almond butter and apple butter. Haven't tried either of them yet but I heard that they are good.

Marie

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From: CK Connie King (1452)

'Marie Deady' ; low dose naltrexone ; Sally

Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 1:22 PM

Subject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Allergies

I've heard of, but not tried, almond butter (are you allergic to almonds, also) and pumpkin butter.

-----Original Message-----From: Marie Deady [mailto:Mardea@...]Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 12:26 PMlow dose naltrexone ; SallySubject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: AllergiesThanks SallyMarie----- Original Message ----- From: "Sally" <salpal@...><low dose naltrexone >Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 9:19 PMSubject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Allergies> How horrible Marie....I love peanut butter too. I know it's not> like peanut butter, but I used to love Apple Butter on> toast...yummmmmm. That might be a nice substitute and i'll bet you> can get it sugar free?> Love, Sally>> > > I know that a lot of you have food allergies. I have a lot but> two that really bother me are peanuts and sugar. I need to find a> substitute for peanut butter. Does anyone know of something that> can be eaten that is close to peanut butter without the peanuts and> sugar. Actually any kind of spread. I bought a jar of soy butter.> That is gross. I miss my peanut butter.> > Help> > Marie>>>>

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Sugar Free apple butter is definitely available because I eat it. I've

found it is hard to find as a natural apple butter without sugar or

artificial sweetners (like the poison Aspartame) in it. I get mine from a

local fruit stand/orchard here in Grand Junction, CO and they do ship their

products around the country. I can get you their address and telephone

number if anyone is interested.

Noland

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From: " Marie Deady " <Mardea@...>

<low dose naltrexone >; " Sally " <salpal@...>

Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 10:25 AM

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Allergies

> Thanks Sally

> Marie

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " Sally " <salpal@...>

> <low dose naltrexone >

> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 9:19 PM

> Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Allergies

>

>

> > How horrible Marie....I love peanut butter too. I know it's not

> > like peanut butter, but I used to love Apple Butter on

> > toast...yummmmmm. That might be a nice substitute and i'll bet you

> > can get it sugar free?

> > Love, Sally

> >

> >

> > > I know that a lot of you have food allergies. I have a lot but

> > two that really bother me are peanuts and sugar. I need to find a

> > substitute for peanut butter. Does anyone know of something that

> > can be eaten that is close to peanut butter without the peanuts and

> > sugar. Actually any kind of spread. I bought a jar of soy butter.

> > That is gross. I miss my peanut butter.

> > > Help

> > > Marie

> >

> >

> >

> >

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There are a number of nut butters available. Some are edible and some I can't gag down.

Noland

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'Marie Deady' ; low dose naltrexone ; Sally

Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 11:22 AM

Subject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Allergies

I've heard of, but not tried, almond butter (are you allergic to almonds, also) and pumpkin butter.

-----Original Message-----From: Marie Deady [mailto:Mardea@...]Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 12:26 PMlow dose naltrexone ; SallySubject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: AllergiesThanks SallyMarie----- Original Message ----- From: "Sally" <salpal@...><low dose naltrexone >Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 9:19 PMSubject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Allergies> How horrible Marie....I love peanut butter too. I know it's not> like peanut butter, but I used to love Apple Butter on> toast...yummmmmm. That might be a nice substitute and i'll bet you> can get it sugar free?> Love, Sally>> > > I know that a lot of you have food allergies. I have a lot but> two that really bother me are peanuts and sugar. I need to find a> substitute for peanut butter. Does anyone know of something that> can be eaten that is close to peanut butter without the peanuts and> sugar. Actually any kind of spread. I bought a jar of soy butter.> That is gross. I miss my peanut butter.> > Help> > Marie>>>>

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The address is: Alida's Fruits

3402 C-1/2 Rd

Palisade, CO 81526

Phone: 970-434-8769

Noland

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'Noland R. Durnell, P.E.'

Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 3:38 PM

Subject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Allergies

I would like the address! Thanks,

-----Original Message-----From: Noland R. Durnell, P.E. [mailto:rangeus50@...]Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 5:28 PMlow dose naltrexone ; Sally; Marie DeadySubject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: AllergiesSugar Free apple butter is definitely available because I eat it. I'vefound it is hard to find as a natural apple butter without sugar orartificial sweetners (like the poison Aspartame) in it. I get mine from alocal fruit stand/orchard here in Grand Junction, CO and they do ship theirproducts around the country. I can get you their address and telephonenumber if anyone is interested.Noland----- Original Message ----- From: "Marie Deady" <Mardea@...><low dose naltrexone >; "Sally" <salpal@...>Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 10:25 AMSubject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Allergies> Thanks Sally> Marie> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sally" <salpal@...>> <low dose naltrexone >> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 9:19 PM> Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Allergies>>> > How horrible Marie....I love peanut butter too. I know it's not> > like peanut butter, but I used to love Apple Butter on> > toast...yummmmmm. That might be a nice substitute and i'll bet you> > can get it sugar free?> > Love, Sally> >> > > > > I know that a lot of you have food allergies. I have a lot but> > two that really bother me are peanuts and sugar. I need to find a> > substitute for peanut butter. Does anyone know of something that> > can be eaten that is close to peanut butter without the peanuts and> > sugar. Actually any kind of spread. I bought a jar of soy butter.> > That is gross. I miss my peanut butter.> > > Help> > > Marie> >> >> >> >

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Thanks Noland for offering--I appreciate it. I was able to find apple

butter today at a local health food store. It has no added sugars in it

just natural sugar. that is okay with me. Yeh I agree with you about

aspartame. I use to drink so much of it with my diet pepsi. Been off of it

for years now. I am very careful now reading the labels.

Thanks again and have a good night.

Marie

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From: " Noland R. Durnell, P.E. " <rangeus50@...>

<low dose naltrexone >; " Sally " <salpal@...>;

" Marie Deady " <Mardea@...>

Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 5:27 PM

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Allergies

> Sugar Free apple butter is definitely available because I eat it. I've

> found it is hard to find as a natural apple butter without sugar or

> artificial sweetners (like the poison Aspartame) in it. I get mine from a

> local fruit stand/orchard here in Grand Junction, CO and they do ship

their

> products around the country. I can get you their address and telephone

> number if anyone is interested.

>

> Noland

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " Marie Deady " <Mardea@...>

> <low dose naltrexone >; " Sally " <salpal@...>

> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 10:25 AM

> Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Allergies

>

>

> > Thanks Sally

> > Marie

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: " Sally " <salpal@...>

> > <low dose naltrexone >

> > Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 9:19 PM

> > Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Allergies

> >

> >

> > > How horrible Marie....I love peanut butter too. I know it's not

> > > like peanut butter, but I used to love Apple Butter on

> > > toast...yummmmmm. That might be a nice substitute and i'll bet you

> > > can get it sugar free?

> > > Love, Sally

> > >

> > >

> > > > I know that a lot of you have food allergies. I have a lot but

> > > two that really bother me are peanuts and sugar. I need to find a

> > > substitute for peanut butter. Does anyone know of something that

> > > can be eaten that is close to peanut butter without the peanuts and

> > > sugar. Actually any kind of spread. I bought a jar of soy butter.

> > > That is gross. I miss my peanut butter.

> > > > Help

> > > > Marie

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Whip up a batch of super tonic. Some herbs that are specific for the nose:

nettles, horseradish, eyebright.

Janet

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From: " " <quirky2@...>

<health >

Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 7:31 PM

Subject: Allergies

> Hi all

>

> I have been stuffed up all day and face burns/aches a little. I think

> I am getting a sinus infection. This started a couple of days ago and

> I started taking Echinaccea/astragalus/reishi again as I feared a cold.

> All the kids at school have had runny noses for over a week etc... I

> refuse to get sick!!!!!

>

> thanks!!

>

> Cath

>

>

>

>

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