Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 In a message dated 2/13/08 11:59:47 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, kurioryu1013@... writes: but it looks all too familiar. When you main stream our children, you put them up for failure not true for all. our daughter is doing fine being main streamed. but she is at a high funtioning level. eric abby dad **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. Go to AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 In a message dated 2/13/08 11:59:47 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, kurioryu1013@... writes: but it looks all too familiar. When you main stream our children, you put them up for failure not true for all. our daughter is doing fine being main streamed. but she is at a high funtioning level. eric abby dad **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. Go to AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 In a message dated 2/13/08 11:59:47 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, kurioryu1013@... writes: but it looks all too familiar. When you main stream our children, you put them up for failure not true for all. our daughter is doing fine being main streamed. but she is at a high funtioning level. eric abby dad **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. Go to AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Sure can. First I'm sorry for the stress you two are going through, but it looks all too familiar. When you main stream our children, you put them up for failure. Too many children in the room. A non-controlled environment, in serious need of staff. Main streaming my daughter lead to very high levels of violence, screaming, nightmares, etc. Within a month of being removed from this setting, the behavior changed completely. The school system needs to understand that our children are not capable of being put into stressful situations without repercussions. Even being brushed up against or being looked at can set them off. nevaehlopez6 wrote: As some of you may know my daughter Nevaeh is 6. She has been in the public school system since she was dx at 2 1/2. She has been doing great. I am very close with her teacher and she sends me emails asking if Nevaeh hasn't slept or if something is diffrent at home. Nothing has changed and Nevaeh is sleeping nice. The problem is that Nevaeh has been very moody lately. Let me backtrack...A couple of weeks ago I went to her I.E.P. I found out that they had were mainstreaming her in a 1st grade class instead of Kindergarten. I was upset because Nevaeh was basically there for social and not anything acedemic, the 1st grade teacher stressed that she wasn't there to help her with acedemics. So after 3 hours they took her out of that class and have been trying to find a place for her in Kinder. Nothing has happened yet. Ths week Nevaeh has been crying for no reason, yelling and screaming. I ask her what is wrong and she usually tryd to tell me but she is not saying anything. Sometimes she just crys, like the REAL cry. With a whole lot of tears and not saying a word. Yesterday he teacher said that Nevaeh was very agressive, screaming no and throwing herself. She hasn't done that since she was about 2 1/2 or 3. This morning the teacher emais me that Nevaeh said " make these kids normal, they're disgusting " I was completley shocked!!! I don't even know where she could have heard that from. And if she heard it from some Disney Channel show then she is using it to communicate. I don't know what to think, she is the most advanced in her class. So maybe she wants to be with typical kids. I really don't know. Can anyone give me any ideas... Thanks, ps: turned out longer than I imagined. --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Hi: I had to write back to you as I have a 13 year old daughter named Darby who has been integrated since she was in preschool. I am dealing with the same feelings and it is difficult. I feel even though she was not able to communicate what she was learning in a typical class she was still learning. At times I was unsure about Darby's acedemic ability. She was not able to answer, yet I kept going despite the pressure socially and internally. So I would insist she be integrated and taught what the other kids were learning. The problem was the teachers or the aide did not always feel the way I did so sometimes Darby would spend time outside the class as her behaviours were distruptive or she was in sensory overload and needed a break herself. I kept saying to my self better than special ed.....and she is always listening to the typical kids learning around her. This year in grade seven she is in a typical grade seven school. The princial was very open for Darby to come despite her low functioning reports. Grade 1 level in reading and math etc. There was no room in the regular classes at this school so she suggested that Darby try the small group class. These students are 1 or 2 years behind and so we enrolled. Darby's behaviour is challenging and I believe it is because she is not in a stimulating classroom. Yet it was still more stimulating than special ed. A teacher sat down with her and verbally helped Darby write a social studies test and she " kicked butt " in the words of her teacher!!! She recieved a 80% mark!! on her report card. A first for Darby! Just because a teacher believed in her and expected that she did understand!!! Last year she was doing grade 1 reading? I wonder how that felt when she was able to understand more than they knew? Our kids have such a struggle themselves. Integration is a fight but I feel it is worth it. Read stories about other people with Autism that were nonverbal or considered low functioning. Their success stories may help you keep looking for Nevaeh's full acedemic potential. The people with Autism all say they were always listening and always learning... Why would it be any different for your child or my child? A good book is Sharing Our Wisdom: A collection of presentations by People within the Autism Spectrum. take care, I hope my enthusiasm does not come across as overbearing because as you will hear more from my struggles with Darby life is not perfect here either. Darby is so worth it though. nevaehlopez6 wrote: As some of you may know my daughter Nevaeh is 6. She has been in the public school system since she was dx at 2 1/2. She has been doing great. I am very close with her teacher and she sends me emails asking if Nevaeh hasn't slept or if something is diffrent at home. Nothing has changed and Nevaeh is sleeping nice. The problem is that Nevaeh has been very moody lately. Let me backtrack...A couple of weeks ago I went to her I.E.P. I found out that they had were mainstreaming her in a 1st grade class instead of Kindergarten. I was upset because Nevaeh was basically there for social and not anything acedemic, the 1st grade teacher stressed that she wasn't there to help her with acedemics. So after 3 hours they took her out of that class and have been trying to find a place for her in Kinder. Nothing has happened yet. Ths week Nevaeh has been crying for no reason, yelling and screaming. I ask her what is wrong and she usually tryd to tell me but she is not saying anything. Sometimes she just crys, like the REAL cry. With a whole lot of tears and not saying a word. Yesterday he teacher said that Nevaeh was very agressive, screaming no and throwing herself. She hasn't done that since she was about 2 1/2 or 3. This morning the teacher emais me that Nevaeh said " make these kids normal, they're disgusting " I was completley shocked!!! I don't even know where she could have heard that from. And if she heard it from some Disney Channel show then she is using it to communicate. I don't know what to think, she is the most advanced in her class. So maybe she wants to be with typical kids. I really don't know. Can anyone give me any ideas... Thanks, ps: turned out longer than I imagined. --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Thank you so very much. My daughter did very good in a reg. ed class. She wasn't violent in there, actually her behavior was beter and she was eating more. (we have issues with eating) It's when I realized that she wasn't getting any academics in the reg. ed class that I pulled her out. Now her violence is in her Self Contained Class. Where she has been at for years. I spoke to her teacher just a little while ago and she thinks that maybe Nevaeh feels bothered by her classmates because she is not at that level anymore. She is very High Functioning and is the only one on the green level in reading (which is the highest level in that class) I think she is upset about not being in that " typical " class anymore. I feel bad but I can't have her waisting her time in a class that the teacher is not teaching her any academics (math, reading, writing, etc). I am not sure if I made a BIG mistake about taking her out of the gen ed. 1st grade class. Oh and the thing that makes me even more upset is that last MAY/2007 i had a meeting for her IEP. And in the IEP we decided that she would start the new school year AUG/2007IN A GEN ED ( " TYPICAL " ) Kinder class, so she can get used to counting money and the kinder. basics, then we will see from there. But of course the school system didn't start mainstreaming her until December and then they put her in the wrong class. It's just sooo frustrating. > As some of you may know my daughter Nevaeh is 6. She has been in the > public school system since she was dx at 2 1/2. She has been doing > great. > > I am very close with her teacher and she sends me emails asking if > Nevaeh hasn't slept or if something is diffrent at home. Nothing has > changed and Nevaeh is sleeping nice. > > The problem is that Nevaeh has been very moody lately. Let me > backtrack...A couple of weeks ago I went to her I.E.P. I found out > that they had were mainstreaming her in a 1st grade class instead of > Kindergarten. I was upset because Nevaeh was basically there for > social and not anything acedemic, the 1st grade teacher stressed that > she wasn't there to help her with acedemics. > > So after 3 hours they took her out of that class and have been trying > to find a place for her in Kinder. Nothing has happened yet. Ths week > Nevaeh has been crying for no reason, yelling and screaming. > > I ask her what is wrong and she usually tryd to tell me but she is > not saying anything. Sometimes she just crys, like the REAL cry. With > a whole lot of tears and not saying a word. > > Yesterday he teacher said that Nevaeh was very agressive, screaming > no and throwing herself. She hasn't done that since she was about 2 > 1/2 or 3. This morning the teacher emais me that Nevaeh said " make > these kids normal, they're disgusting " > > I was completley shocked!!! I don't even know where she could have > heard that from. And if she heard it from some Disney Channel show > then she is using it to communicate. > > I don't know what to think, she is the most advanced in her class. So > maybe she wants to be with typical kids. I really don't know. > > Can anyone give me any ideas... Thanks, > > ps: turned out longer than I imagined. > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 a) Sounds like she wants to be in the typical class and sounds like someone has been really polluting her ideas about difference and disability. That needs to be addressed. Like, yesterday. Kassiane --- nevaehlopez6 wrote: > As some of you may know my daughter Nevaeh is 6. She > has been in the > public school system since she was dx at 2 1/2. She > has been doing > great. > > I am very close with her teacher and she sends me > emails asking if > Nevaeh hasn't slept or if something is diffrent at > home. Nothing has > changed and Nevaeh is sleeping nice. > > The problem is that Nevaeh has been very moody > lately. Let me > backtrack...A couple of weeks ago I went to her > I.E.P. I found out > that they had were mainstreaming her in a 1st grade > class instead of > Kindergarten. I was upset because Nevaeh was > basically there for > social and not anything acedemic, the 1st grade > teacher stressed that > she wasn't there to help her with acedemics. > > So after 3 hours they took her out of that class and > have been trying > to find a place for her in Kinder. Nothing has > happened yet. Ths week > Nevaeh has been crying for no reason, yelling and > screaming. > > I ask her what is wrong and she usually tryd to tell > me but she is > not saying anything. Sometimes she just crys, like > the REAL cry. With > a whole lot of tears and not saying a word. > > Yesterday he teacher said that Nevaeh was very > agressive, screaming > no and throwing herself. She hasn't done that since > she was about 2 > 1/2 or 3. This morning the teacher emais me that > Nevaeh said " make > these kids normal, they're disgusting " > > I was completley shocked!!! I don't even know where > she could have > heard that from. And if she heard it from some > Disney Channel show > then she is using it to communicate. > > I don't know what to think, she is the most advanced > in her class. So > maybe she wants to be with typical kids. I really > don't know. > > Can anyone give me any ideas... Thanks, > > ps: turned out longer than I imagined. > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 a) Sounds like she wants to be in the typical class and sounds like someone has been really polluting her ideas about difference and disability. That needs to be addressed. Like, yesterday. Kassiane --- nevaehlopez6 wrote: > As some of you may know my daughter Nevaeh is 6. She > has been in the > public school system since she was dx at 2 1/2. She > has been doing > great. > > I am very close with her teacher and she sends me > emails asking if > Nevaeh hasn't slept or if something is diffrent at > home. Nothing has > changed and Nevaeh is sleeping nice. > > The problem is that Nevaeh has been very moody > lately. Let me > backtrack...A couple of weeks ago I went to her > I.E.P. I found out > that they had were mainstreaming her in a 1st grade > class instead of > Kindergarten. I was upset because Nevaeh was > basically there for > social and not anything acedemic, the 1st grade > teacher stressed that > she wasn't there to help her with acedemics. > > So after 3 hours they took her out of that class and > have been trying > to find a place for her in Kinder. Nothing has > happened yet. Ths week > Nevaeh has been crying for no reason, yelling and > screaming. > > I ask her what is wrong and she usually tryd to tell > me but she is > not saying anything. Sometimes she just crys, like > the REAL cry. With > a whole lot of tears and not saying a word. > > Yesterday he teacher said that Nevaeh was very > agressive, screaming > no and throwing herself. She hasn't done that since > she was about 2 > 1/2 or 3. This morning the teacher emais me that > Nevaeh said " make > these kids normal, they're disgusting " > > I was completley shocked!!! I don't even know where > she could have > heard that from. And if she heard it from some > Disney Channel show > then she is using it to communicate. > > I don't know what to think, she is the most advanced > in her class. So > maybe she wants to be with typical kids. I really > don't know. > > Can anyone give me any ideas... Thanks, > > ps: turned out longer than I imagined. > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 a) Sounds like she wants to be in the typical class and sounds like someone has been really polluting her ideas about difference and disability. That needs to be addressed. Like, yesterday. Kassiane --- nevaehlopez6 wrote: > As some of you may know my daughter Nevaeh is 6. She > has been in the > public school system since she was dx at 2 1/2. She > has been doing > great. > > I am very close with her teacher and she sends me > emails asking if > Nevaeh hasn't slept or if something is diffrent at > home. Nothing has > changed and Nevaeh is sleeping nice. > > The problem is that Nevaeh has been very moody > lately. Let me > backtrack...A couple of weeks ago I went to her > I.E.P. I found out > that they had were mainstreaming her in a 1st grade > class instead of > Kindergarten. I was upset because Nevaeh was > basically there for > social and not anything acedemic, the 1st grade > teacher stressed that > she wasn't there to help her with acedemics. > > So after 3 hours they took her out of that class and > have been trying > to find a place for her in Kinder. Nothing has > happened yet. Ths week > Nevaeh has been crying for no reason, yelling and > screaming. > > I ask her what is wrong and she usually tryd to tell > me but she is > not saying anything. Sometimes she just crys, like > the REAL cry. With > a whole lot of tears and not saying a word. > > Yesterday he teacher said that Nevaeh was very > agressive, screaming > no and throwing herself. She hasn't done that since > she was about 2 > 1/2 or 3. This morning the teacher emais me that > Nevaeh said " make > these kids normal, they're disgusting " > > I was completley shocked!!! I don't even know where > she could have > heard that from. And if she heard it from some > Disney Channel show > then she is using it to communicate. > > I don't know what to think, she is the most advanced > in her class. So > maybe she wants to be with typical kids. I really > don't know. > > Can anyone give me any ideas... Thanks, > > ps: turned out longer than I imagined. > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Thank you very much for your comment, I wanted to know what you thought about it. She goes to a " typical " after school program with " typical " children maybe about 50 of them. Do you think someone might have told her this and that's why she os so upset? > > > As some of you may know my daughter Nevaeh is 6. She > > has been in the > > public school system since she was dx at 2 1/2. She > > has been doing > > great. > > > > I am very close with her teacher and she sends me > > emails asking if > > Nevaeh hasn't slept or if something is diffrent at > > home. Nothing has > > changed and Nevaeh is sleeping nice. > > > > The problem is that Nevaeh has been very moody > > lately. Let me > > backtrack...A couple of weeks ago I went to her > > I.E.P. I found out > > that they had were mainstreaming her in a 1st grade > > class instead of > > Kindergarten. I was upset because Nevaeh was > > basically there for > > social and not anything acedemic, the 1st grade > > teacher stressed that > > she wasn't there to help her with acedemics. > > > > So after 3 hours they took her out of that class and > > have been trying > > to find a place for her in Kinder. Nothing has > > happened yet. Ths week > > Nevaeh has been crying for no reason, yelling and > > screaming. > > > > I ask her what is wrong and she usually tryd to tell > > me but she is > > not saying anything. Sometimes she just crys, like > > the REAL cry. With > > a whole lot of tears and not saying a word. > > > > Yesterday he teacher said that Nevaeh was very > > agressive, screaming > > no and throwing herself. She hasn't done that since > > she was about 2 > > 1/2 or 3. This morning the teacher emais me that > > Nevaeh said " make > > these kids normal, they're disgusting " > > > > I was completley shocked!!! I don't even know where > > she could have > > heard that from. And if she heard it from some > > Disney Channel show > > then she is using it to communicate. > > > > I don't know what to think, she is the most advanced > > in her class. So > > maybe she wants to be with typical kids. I really > > don't know. > > > > Can anyone give me any ideas... Thanks, > > > > ps: turned out longer than I imagined. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Thank you very much for your comment, I wanted to know what you thought about it. She goes to a " typical " after school program with " typical " children maybe about 50 of them. Do you think someone might have told her this and that's why she os so upset? > > > As some of you may know my daughter Nevaeh is 6. She > > has been in the > > public school system since she was dx at 2 1/2. She > > has been doing > > great. > > > > I am very close with her teacher and she sends me > > emails asking if > > Nevaeh hasn't slept or if something is diffrent at > > home. Nothing has > > changed and Nevaeh is sleeping nice. > > > > The problem is that Nevaeh has been very moody > > lately. Let me > > backtrack...A couple of weeks ago I went to her > > I.E.P. I found out > > that they had were mainstreaming her in a 1st grade > > class instead of > > Kindergarten. I was upset because Nevaeh was > > basically there for > > social and not anything acedemic, the 1st grade > > teacher stressed that > > she wasn't there to help her with acedemics. > > > > So after 3 hours they took her out of that class and > > have been trying > > to find a place for her in Kinder. Nothing has > > happened yet. Ths week > > Nevaeh has been crying for no reason, yelling and > > screaming. > > > > I ask her what is wrong and she usually tryd to tell > > me but she is > > not saying anything. Sometimes she just crys, like > > the REAL cry. With > > a whole lot of tears and not saying a word. > > > > Yesterday he teacher said that Nevaeh was very > > agressive, screaming > > no and throwing herself. She hasn't done that since > > she was about 2 > > 1/2 or 3. This morning the teacher emais me that > > Nevaeh said " make > > these kids normal, they're disgusting " > > > > I was completley shocked!!! I don't even know where > > she could have > > heard that from. And if she heard it from some > > Disney Channel show > > then she is using it to communicate. > > > > I don't know what to think, she is the most advanced > > in her class. So > > maybe she wants to be with typical kids. I really > > don't know. > > > > Can anyone give me any ideas... Thanks, > > > > ps: turned out longer than I imagined. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Thank you very much for your comment, I wanted to know what you thought about it. She goes to a " typical " after school program with " typical " children maybe about 50 of them. Do you think someone might have told her this and that's why she os so upset? > > > As some of you may know my daughter Nevaeh is 6. She > > has been in the > > public school system since she was dx at 2 1/2. She > > has been doing > > great. > > > > I am very close with her teacher and she sends me > > emails asking if > > Nevaeh hasn't slept or if something is diffrent at > > home. Nothing has > > changed and Nevaeh is sleeping nice. > > > > The problem is that Nevaeh has been very moody > > lately. Let me > > backtrack...A couple of weeks ago I went to her > > I.E.P. I found out > > that they had were mainstreaming her in a 1st grade > > class instead of > > Kindergarten. I was upset because Nevaeh was > > basically there for > > social and not anything acedemic, the 1st grade > > teacher stressed that > > she wasn't there to help her with acedemics. > > > > So after 3 hours they took her out of that class and > > have been trying > > to find a place for her in Kinder. Nothing has > > happened yet. Ths week > > Nevaeh has been crying for no reason, yelling and > > screaming. > > > > I ask her what is wrong and she usually tryd to tell > > me but she is > > not saying anything. Sometimes she just crys, like > > the REAL cry. With > > a whole lot of tears and not saying a word. > > > > Yesterday he teacher said that Nevaeh was very > > agressive, screaming > > no and throwing herself. She hasn't done that since > > she was about 2 > > 1/2 or 3. This morning the teacher emais me that > > Nevaeh said " make > > these kids normal, they're disgusting " > > > > I was completley shocked!!! I don't even know where > > she could have > > heard that from. And if she heard it from some > > Disney Channel show > > then she is using it to communicate. > > > > I don't know what to think, she is the most advanced > > in her class. So > > maybe she wants to be with typical kids. I really > > don't know. > > > > Can anyone give me any ideas... Thanks, > > > > ps: turned out longer than I imagined. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 It could have been one of the kids, or it could have even been a teacher or aide and they didn't think she'd hear. I hate to say it but it's unfortunately truth, and kids DO listen to the adults in their lives. Who ever said it (and if it doesnt sound like something Neveah came up with on her own it probably wasn't, you're her mommy) is probably someone she listens to. It's sad and I'm sorry she had to hear it. Whoever said it, child or adult, was out of line. No child should have to hear that being said about herself and her classmates, it isn't right. Kassiane --- nevaehlopez6 wrote: > Thank you very much for your comment, I wanted to > know what you > thought about it. > > She goes to a " typical " after school program with > " typical " children > maybe about 50 of them. Do you think someone might > have told her this > and that's why she os so upset? > > > > > > > > > > As some of you may know my daughter Nevaeh is 6. > She > > > has been in the > > > public school system since she was dx at 2 1/2. > She > > > has been doing > > > great. > > > > > > I am very close with her teacher and she sends > me > > > emails asking if > > > Nevaeh hasn't slept or if something is diffrent > at > > > home. Nothing has > > > changed and Nevaeh is sleeping nice. > > > > > > The problem is that Nevaeh has been very moody > > > lately. Let me > > > backtrack...A couple of weeks ago I went to her > > > I.E.P. I found out > > > that they had were mainstreaming her in a 1st > grade > > > class instead of > > > Kindergarten. I was upset because Nevaeh was > > > basically there for > > > social and not anything acedemic, the 1st grade > > > teacher stressed that > > > she wasn't there to help her with acedemics. > > > > > > So after 3 hours they took her out of that class > and > > > have been trying > > > to find a place for her in Kinder. Nothing has > > > happened yet. Ths week > > > Nevaeh has been crying for no reason, yelling > and > > > screaming. > > > > > > I ask her what is wrong and she usually tryd to > tell > > > me but she is > > > not saying anything. Sometimes she just crys, > like > > > the REAL cry. With > > > a whole lot of tears and not saying a word. > > > > > > Yesterday he teacher said that Nevaeh was very > > > agressive, screaming > > > no and throwing herself. She hasn't done that > since > > > she was about 2 > > > 1/2 or 3. This morning the teacher emais me that > > > Nevaeh said " make > > > these kids normal, they're disgusting " > > > > > > I was completley shocked!!! I don't even know > where > > > she could have > > > heard that from. And if she heard it from some > > > Disney Channel show > > > then she is using it to communicate. > > > > > > I don't know what to think, she is the most > advanced > > > in her class. So > > > maybe she wants to be with typical kids. I > really > > > don't know. > > > > > > Can anyone give me any ideas... Thanks, > > > > > > ps: turned out longer than I imagined. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > ______________ > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 It could have been one of the kids, or it could have even been a teacher or aide and they didn't think she'd hear. I hate to say it but it's unfortunately truth, and kids DO listen to the adults in their lives. Who ever said it (and if it doesnt sound like something Neveah came up with on her own it probably wasn't, you're her mommy) is probably someone she listens to. It's sad and I'm sorry she had to hear it. Whoever said it, child or adult, was out of line. No child should have to hear that being said about herself and her classmates, it isn't right. Kassiane --- nevaehlopez6 wrote: > Thank you very much for your comment, I wanted to > know what you > thought about it. > > She goes to a " typical " after school program with > " typical " children > maybe about 50 of them. Do you think someone might > have told her this > and that's why she os so upset? > > > > > > > > > > As some of you may know my daughter Nevaeh is 6. > She > > > has been in the > > > public school system since she was dx at 2 1/2. > She > > > has been doing > > > great. > > > > > > I am very close with her teacher and she sends > me > > > emails asking if > > > Nevaeh hasn't slept or if something is diffrent > at > > > home. Nothing has > > > changed and Nevaeh is sleeping nice. > > > > > > The problem is that Nevaeh has been very moody > > > lately. Let me > > > backtrack...A couple of weeks ago I went to her > > > I.E.P. I found out > > > that they had were mainstreaming her in a 1st > grade > > > class instead of > > > Kindergarten. I was upset because Nevaeh was > > > basically there for > > > social and not anything acedemic, the 1st grade > > > teacher stressed that > > > she wasn't there to help her with acedemics. > > > > > > So after 3 hours they took her out of that class > and > > > have been trying > > > to find a place for her in Kinder. Nothing has > > > happened yet. Ths week > > > Nevaeh has been crying for no reason, yelling > and > > > screaming. > > > > > > I ask her what is wrong and she usually tryd to > tell > > > me but she is > > > not saying anything. Sometimes she just crys, > like > > > the REAL cry. With > > > a whole lot of tears and not saying a word. > > > > > > Yesterday he teacher said that Nevaeh was very > > > agressive, screaming > > > no and throwing herself. She hasn't done that > since > > > she was about 2 > > > 1/2 or 3. This morning the teacher emais me that > > > Nevaeh said " make > > > these kids normal, they're disgusting " > > > > > > I was completley shocked!!! I don't even know > where > > > she could have > > > heard that from. And if she heard it from some > > > Disney Channel show > > > then she is using it to communicate. > > > > > > I don't know what to think, she is the most > advanced > > > in her class. So > > > maybe she wants to be with typical kids. I > really > > > don't know. > > > > > > Can anyone give me any ideas... Thanks, > > > > > > ps: turned out longer than I imagined. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > ______________ > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 It could have been one of the kids, or it could have even been a teacher or aide and they didn't think she'd hear. I hate to say it but it's unfortunately truth, and kids DO listen to the adults in their lives. Who ever said it (and if it doesnt sound like something Neveah came up with on her own it probably wasn't, you're her mommy) is probably someone she listens to. It's sad and I'm sorry she had to hear it. Whoever said it, child or adult, was out of line. No child should have to hear that being said about herself and her classmates, it isn't right. Kassiane --- nevaehlopez6 wrote: > Thank you very much for your comment, I wanted to > know what you > thought about it. > > She goes to a " typical " after school program with > " typical " children > maybe about 50 of them. Do you think someone might > have told her this > and that's why she os so upset? > > > > > > > > > > As some of you may know my daughter Nevaeh is 6. > She > > > has been in the > > > public school system since she was dx at 2 1/2. > She > > > has been doing > > > great. > > > > > > I am very close with her teacher and she sends > me > > > emails asking if > > > Nevaeh hasn't slept or if something is diffrent > at > > > home. Nothing has > > > changed and Nevaeh is sleeping nice. > > > > > > The problem is that Nevaeh has been very moody > > > lately. Let me > > > backtrack...A couple of weeks ago I went to her > > > I.E.P. I found out > > > that they had were mainstreaming her in a 1st > grade > > > class instead of > > > Kindergarten. I was upset because Nevaeh was > > > basically there for > > > social and not anything acedemic, the 1st grade > > > teacher stressed that > > > she wasn't there to help her with acedemics. > > > > > > So after 3 hours they took her out of that class > and > > > have been trying > > > to find a place for her in Kinder. Nothing has > > > happened yet. Ths week > > > Nevaeh has been crying for no reason, yelling > and > > > screaming. > > > > > > I ask her what is wrong and she usually tryd to > tell > > > me but she is > > > not saying anything. Sometimes she just crys, > like > > > the REAL cry. With > > > a whole lot of tears and not saying a word. > > > > > > Yesterday he teacher said that Nevaeh was very > > > agressive, screaming > > > no and throwing herself. She hasn't done that > since > > > she was about 2 > > > 1/2 or 3. This morning the teacher emais me that > > > Nevaeh said " make > > > these kids normal, they're disgusting " > > > > > > I was completley shocked!!! I don't even know > where > > > she could have > > > heard that from. And if she heard it from some > > > Disney Channel show > > > then she is using it to communicate. > > > > > > I don't know what to think, she is the most > advanced > > > in her class. So > > > maybe she wants to be with typical kids. I > really > > > don't know. > > > > > > Can anyone give me any ideas... Thanks, > > > > > > ps: turned out longer than I imagined. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > ______________ > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Here are my thoughts. First, there shouldn't be a " trying to find a class " for her. IF she were non-disabled, what class would she be in? This should be her classroom, YESTERDAY. That said, she was happy in first grade, I would question why she could not return. The thing is, the school has screwed her over big time. They put her in a class she should not have been in, then allowed her to take ownership of it, then snatch it away, giving her nothing in return. I think it's pretty crappy that they have cared so little for her feelings -- please feel free to print this & show it to 'em! I totally understand your concerns of her being in a kindergarten classroom to learn kindergarten stuff. That only makes sense. Every kid should have a kindergarten experience. If I were you I'd let them know very strongly, say a few emails/certified letters, stating the emotional turmoil they have forced upon your daughter, not to mention you as mom. I'd be sure to write a long, detailed letter of events, from how they have failed to provide her least restrictive environment all year, and now how they are haphazardly providing it and creating the behavior problems, then penalizing her for what they have created. You need to document their failures so if they come back and try to further punish her you'll have proof of what they've done. The rule is kids START in general ed until modifications/aids/services have been exhausted, THEN the child is removed. It sounds like they're trying to do it backward, make her prove she's indistinguishable. I'd consider filing a complaint with the office of civil rights if I were you. My op, the school should get their act together and do so quickly. All they're doing is making your daughter suffer. HTH, Debi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 She may have just realized it. My SIL's niece A has a genetic condition that causes her to look very different. But her mom always kept her in an inclusive setting. She took her to one Special Olympics event and A was so upset, she kept saying she didn't belong there, that she wasn't like " those kids. " But, A has also never had it explained what's going on with her. Point is, kids don't always have to be told what different is to recognize different. Sounds like maybe learning about how different is good, neat, fun, etc might be a good thing for her. Debi - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 , check her throat--some children have the big outbursts as a symptom of strep throat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Thank you all so much for all your comments. Kassi, I do believe she heard it from someone, and yes I think it had to be an adult. Debi, You are so right about everything you wrote. I just called the Principal and let him have it. I told him that the reason they did this is because at the end of the day they go home to their " typical " lives and forget all about Nevaeh's needs. When they get to work the mext day Nevaeh is not on the top of their list like she is on mine. They basically don't care while acting like they do. I am going to call the School District now I will let you all know the outcome. Thanks again, > > Here are my thoughts. First, there shouldn't be a " trying to find a > class " for her. IF she were non-disabled, what class would she be in? > This should be her classroom, YESTERDAY. > > That said, she was happy in first grade, I would question why she > could not return. The thing is, the school has screwed her over big > time. They put her in a class she should not have been in, then > allowed her to take ownership of it, then snatch it away, giving her > nothing in return. I think it's pretty crappy that they have cared so > little for her feelings -- please feel free to print this & show it to > 'em! > > I totally understand your concerns of her being in a kindergarten > classroom to learn kindergarten stuff. That only makes sense. Every > kid should have a kindergarten experience. If I were you I'd let them > know very strongly, say a few emails/certified letters, stating the > emotional turmoil they have forced upon your daughter, not to mention > you as mom. > > I'd be sure to write a long, detailed letter of events, from how they > have failed to provide her least restrictive environment all year, and > now how they are haphazardly providing it and creating the behavior > problems, then penalizing her for what they have created. You need to > document their failures so if they come back and try to further punish > her you'll have proof of what they've done. The rule is kids START in > general ed until modifications/aids/services have been exhausted, THEN > the child is removed. It sounds like they're trying to do it backward, > make her prove she's indistinguishable. I'd consider filing a > complaint with the office of civil rights if I were you. > > My op, the school should get their act together and do so quickly. All > they're doing is making your daughter suffer. > > HTH, > Debi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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