Guest guest Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Don't know if vaccines are to blame or not, but the obvious response to the just released " difinitive " study dismissing a link is obvious. The basis of the study is that while there has been a significant decrease in thimerosal containing vaccines being give to children, there has been a massive increase in the number of children diagnosed with autism. Who says the damage is only being caused by vaccinations being given to children who manifest ASD symptoms. Perhaps the answer is to be found in looking at the genetic damage done to the children's parents who were given these vacinations. --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 YOU HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND that while " mercury levels may have been reduced " the NUMBER of vaccines children are getting today is much much greater than children generations ago. In 1983 there were only 10 vaccinations on schedule; today: 30+ by age 2!!!! This " definitive " research - I urge people to think critically when it comes to research. Who is funding this study, who employs these researcher, who benefits from the findings, etc... Interestingly enough, the CDC and vaccination companies are often behidn these " definitive findings. " Biased? That would never fly in academic research. PS I am an autism researcher. Jessie > > Don't know if vaccines are to blame or not, but the obvious response to the just released " difinitive " study dismissing a link is obvious. The basis of the study is that while there has been a significant decrease in thimerosal containing vaccines being give to children, there has been a massive increase in the number of children diagnosed with autism. > > Who says the damage is only being caused by vaccinations being given to children who manifest ASD symptoms. Perhaps the answer is to be found in looking at the genetic damage done to the children's parents who were given these vacinations. > > > > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 chickenpox, the flu, diahrea, measles, mumps - are ALL illnesses that are not deadly (in MOST cases). I agree > Don't know if vaccines are to blame or not, but the obvious response to the just released " difinitive " study dismissing a link is obvious. The basis of the study is that while there has been a significant decrease in thimerosal containing vaccines being give to children, there has been a massive increase in the number of children diagnosed with autism. > > Who says the damage is only being caused by vaccinations being given to children who manifest ASD symptoms. Perhaps the answer is to be found in looking at the genetic damage done to the children's parents who were given these vacinations. > > > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 What about pertussis? You do know there have been recent outbreaks of that, right? I almost died from one last year, so don't tell me there arent. Spokane county. Caught it at the gym. What about diptheria? What about polio? What about tetanus? Those kill. What about rubella-congenital rubella is a KNOWN CAUSE of autism. Kassiane who got mumps and pertussis because she is in the 10% who's vaccines don't take, thanks to irresponsible parents taking their sick kids to gymnastics. Yup, I know the source child for both. --- Jessie Beauvais wrote: > chickenpox, the flu, diahrea, measles, mumps - are > ALL illnesses that > are not deadly (in MOST cases). I agree > > > > > > Don't know if vaccines are to blame or > not, but the > obvious response to the just released " difinitive " > study dismissing a > link is obvious. The basis of the study is that > while there has been > a significant decrease in thimerosal containing > vaccines being give > to children, there has been a massive increase in > the number of > children diagnosed with autism. > > > > Who says the damage is only being caused by > vaccinations being > given to children who manifest ASD symptoms. Perhaps > the answer is to > be found in looking at the genetic damage done to > the children's > parents who were given these vacinations. > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chef Amy > > Reel Thyme Cooking, LLC > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all > with Yahoo! Mobile. > Try it now. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 At the risk of stirring up a real controversey, I have to state that I do not particularly believe the link between autism and vaccines. Part of the reason for this is because when it comes to this issue, there seems to be a real case of a " moving target " . By that, I mean that at first, the blame was cast on the MMR vaccine. Then, more specifically, it was leveled at the thimerosal in the vaccine. When it was shown that there was no thimerosal in the MMR, the blame went to the whole regimen of vaccines given at such an early age, along with the thimerosal in all the vaccines. Now that thimerosal has been (mostly) eliminated in the vaccines, and the rate of autism has not decreased, other mechanisms for vaccines to be the culprit behnd autism are being proposed. Science is certainly an ongoing process, and I'm not eliminating vaccines altogether, but isn't it just possible that there's another culprit here? There have been many studies that have not shown a link betwen autism and vaccines, and not all of them were done in this country, or have any kind of pharmaceutical company sponsoring them. I think we should keep this in mind as a possibility, not a certainty, and start looking at some other possibilities behind the rise in the autism rate. At the very least we should keep an open mind. Jessie Beauvais wrote: YOU HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND that while " mercury levels may have been reduced " the NUMBER of vaccines children are getting today is much much greater than children generations ago. In 1983 there were only 10 vaccinations on schedule; today: 30+ by age 2!!!! This " definitive " research - I urge people to think critically when it comes to research. Who is funding this study, who employs these researcher, who benefits from the findings, etc... Interestingly enough, the CDC and vaccination companies are often behidn these " definitive findings. " Biased? That would never fly in academic research. PS I am an autism researcher. Jessie > > Don't know if vaccines are to blame or not, but the obvious response to the just released " difinitive " study dismissing a link is obvious. The basis of the study is that while there has been a significant decrease in thimerosal containing vaccines being give to children, there has been a massive increase in the number of children diagnosed with autism. > > Who says the damage is only being caused by vaccinations being given to children who manifest ASD symptoms. Perhaps the answer is to be found in looking at the genetic damage done to the children's parents who were given these vacinations. > > > > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Yes, according to CDC's own data, the pertussis vaccine is 50-70% effective, if I remember the study's numbers correctly. It's somewhat difficult to know how many people are getting it since they don't test for it in many cases, but yes, I certainly agree with you there have been recent outbreaks. I'm sorry your's was so difficult, that must have been scary. It was about like bronchitis at our house. According to CDC, there are 0-5 cases of diphtheria reported each year in the USA. http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dbmd/diseaseinfo/diptheria_t.htm Polio has not been in the USA for years, and the last cases that were were from the vaccine itself. Tetanus will always be a possibility because of spores, but is far less likely with all the antibacterial soaps. It's most likely to be gotten from feces-laden places. If I ever feel my kids are at significant risk, like a serious puncture wound in the dirt, I would probably get a tetanus for her. If a woman is exposed to rubella as a child, then there is no risk to being exposed to it during pregnancy. The vaccine prevents full exposure. I plan on having my daughters tested at puberty and if they are negative with titers, I'll probably go ahead & get them. 2 of my 3 kids have had chicken pox, if Dinah doesn't before mid-teen years, I'll probably have her to get that one, but I'm really, really hoping she gets exposed naturally. If I EVER thought my children had rubella, I would keep them away from the public until I felt it had passed, pertussis is far more difficult to recognize if you aren't on top of the subtle way it starts. That said, I thought Dinah had it by day 2 of onset, I kept her out of school for over a week before I finally got the doctor to test her, once it was positive I had documentation to keep her home. For my older daughter, the health nurse refused to acknowledge she had it, despite identical symptoms and CDC's statement that anyone presenting who has been in direct contact with a culture-confirmed case should receive same dx, because Jess had been immunized. I HAD to send her to school or risk going to jail for truancy. That said, half the kids in her class were coughing, that's where they got it. I begged the school nurse & county health nurse to test, they refused because " they all had their shots. " If I ever take the kids to the area of Africa where polio is active, I probably would get polio, but, I don't think I'll ever be going there. Debi > > What about pertussis? You do know there have been > recent outbreaks of that, right? I almost died from > one last year, so don't tell me there arent. Spokane > county. Caught it at the gym. > What about diptheria? What about polio? What about > tetanus? Those kill. What about rubella-congenital > rubella is a KNOWN CAUSE of autism. > > Kassiane > who got mumps and pertussis because she is in the 10% > who's vaccines don't take, thanks to irresponsible > parents taking their sick kids to gymnastics. > > Yup, I know the source child for both. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 It's a holistic issue. First, MMR never had thimerosal in it, most autism researchers knew that, but most of the other vaccines either still do or did. The thought is that the thimerosal weakens aspects of the immune system such that when the MMR is given to susceptible kids, the body isn't as able to fight it off. There's a far more scientific way of explaining it all but I'm not intelligent enough to explain it. I don't think you're stirring up a controversy at all, it may not be vaccines. But, it's not really been a moving target, I mean this in the most nicest way, I think you have just heard bits & pieces & it may feel that way. And, I support your right to think what ever you want, and wish there was an open mind in the science community so that real research would be done. Most of the studies dismissing the issue are very flawed and taken from the same single study & revamped into a new study, like the Danish stuff. Debi > > > > Don't know if vaccines are to blame or not, but the obvious > response to the just released " difinitive " study dismissing a link is > obvious. The basis of the study is that while there has been a > significant decrease in thimerosal containing vaccines being give to > children, there has been a massive increase in the number of children > diagnosed with autism. > > > > Who says the damage is only being caused by vaccinations being > given to children who manifest ASD symptoms. Perhaps the answer is > to be found in looking at the genetic damage done to the children's > parents who were given these vacinations. > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 Please do not get me wrong - yes, I do believe in certain vaccines. I do, however, believe that in our money-driven society where big business has entirely too much power...that maybe we are going over board. This is not far-fetched. Read below - I found this article to be very imformative. I certainly respect people's opinions on the other side of the fence. I am very well read on these topics. And I just don't feel right about the current state of afairs... Jessie --------------------------------------- In summary, this is a vaccination schedule that I would recommend: 1. No vaccinations until a child is two years old. 2. No vaccines that contain thimerosal (mercury). 3. No live virus vaccines (except for smallpox, should it recur). 4. These vaccines, to be given one at a time, every six months, beginning at age 2: 1. Pertussis (acellular, not whole cell) 2. Diphtheria 3. Tetanus 4. Polio (the Salk vaccine, cultured in human cells) A User-Friendly Vaccination Schedule by W. , Jr., MD <mailto:dwm@...%20> by W. , Jr., MD [save a link to this article and return to it at www.savethis.com] [save a link to this article and return to it at www.savethis.com] <http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller15.html#> [Email a link to this article] [Email a link to this article] <http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller15.html#> [Printer-friendly version of this article] [Printer-friendly version of this article] <http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller15.html#> [View a list of the most popular articles on our site] [View a list of the most popular articles on our site] <http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller15.html#> Vaccination is a controversial subject, and many parents worry about subjecting their children to them. Readers of my article " Mercury on the Mind <http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller14.html> , " about vaccines and dental amalgams, have asked what vaccines I would recommend their children receive. This article addresses that question. In the Recommended Childhood Immunization Schedule put out by the CDC (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention), 12 vaccines are given to children before they reach the age of two. Providers inject them against hepatitis B, diphtheria, tetanus (lockjaw), pertussis (whooping cough), polio, pneumococcal infections, Hemophilus influenzae type b infections, measles, mumps, rubella (German measles), chickenpox, and influenza (the flu). Infectious disease was the leading cause of death in children 100 years ago, with diphtheria, measles, scarlet fever, and pertussis accounting for most them. Today the leading causes of death in children less than five years of age are accidents, genetic abnormalities, developmental disorders, sudden infant death syndrome, and cancer. A basic tenet of modern medicine is that vaccines are the reason. There is growing evidence that this is so, but perhaps not quite in the way conventional medical wisdom would have it. A 15-member Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices at the CDC decides which vaccines should be on the Childhood Immunization Schedule <http://www2a.cdc.gov/nip/scheduler_le/schedule.asp> . It calls for one vaccine, against hepatitis B, to be given on the day of birth; 7 vaccines at two months; 6 more (including booster shots) at four months; and as many as 8 vaccines on the six month well-baby visit. Before a child reaches the age of two he or she will have received 32 vaccinations on this schedule, including four doses each of vaccines for Hemophilus influenzae type b infections, diphtheria, tetanus, and pertussis – all of them given during the first 12 months of life. Seven vaccines injected into a 13 lb. two-month old infant are equivalent to 70 doses in a 130 lb. adult. The schedule states, " Your child can safely receive all vaccines recommended for a particular age during one visit. " Public health officials, however, have not proven that it is indeed safe to inject this many vaccines into infants. What's more, they cannot explain why, concurrent with an increasing number of vaccinations, there has been an explosion of neurologic and immune system disorders in our nation's children. Fifty years ago, when the immunization schedule contained only four vaccines (for diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis, and smallpox), autism was virtually unknown. First discovered in 1943, this most devastating malady in what is now a spectrum of pervasive developmental disorders afflicted less than 1 in 10,000 children. Today, one in every 68 American families has an autistic child. Other, less severe developmental disorders, rarely seen before the vaccine era, have also reached epidemic proportions. Four million American children have Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder. One in six American children are now classified as " Learning Disabled. " Our children are also experiencing an epidemic of autoimmune disorders – Type I diabetes, rheumatoid arthritis, asthma, and bowel disorders. There has been a 17-fold increase in Type I diabetes, from 1 in 7,100 children in the 1950s to 1 in 400 now. Juvenile rheumatoid arthritis afflicts 300,000 American children. Twenty-five years ago this disease was so rare that public health officials did not keep any statistics on it. There has been a 4-fold increase in asthma, and bowel disorders in children are much more common now than they were 50 years ago. Health officials consider a vaccine to be safe if no bad reactions – like seizures, intestinal obstruction, or anaphylaxis – occur acutely. The CDC has not done any studies to assess the long-term effects of its immunization schedule. To do that one must conduct a randomized controlled trial, the lynchpin of evidenced-based medicine <http://www.cebm.net/levels_of_evidence.asp> , where one group of children is vaccinated on the CDC's schedule and a control group is not vaccinated. Investigators then follow the two groups for a number of years (not just three to four weeks, as has been done in vaccine safety studies). Concerns that vaccinations in infants cause chronic neurologic and immune system disorders would be put to rest, and their safety certified, if the number of children who develop these diseases is the same in both groups. No such studies have been done, so vaccine proponents cannot say that vaccines are indeed as safe as they think they are. (One proponent <http://www.autismtruth.org/> , interviewed by Dan Rather on 60 Minutes, who has financial ties to the vaccine industry that he did not disclose, claims that vaccines " have a better safety record than vitamins. " He neglected to mention that the U.S. government has paid out more than $1.5 billion in its Vaccine Injury Compensation Program to families of children who have been injured or killed by vaccines.) There is a growing body of evidence that implicates vaccines as a causative factor in the deteriorating health of children. The hypothesis that vaccines cause neurologic and immune system disorders is a legitimate one – vaccines given in multiple doses, close together, to very young children following the CDC's Immunization Schedule. This hypothesis should be tested by a large-scale, long-term randomized controlled trial. Rather than obediently following the government's schedule, there is now sufficient evidence, grounded in good science, to justify adopting a more user-friendly vaccination schedule, one which is in the best interests of the individual as opposed to what planners judge best for society as a whole. New knowledge in neuroimmunology (the study of how the brain's immune system works) raises serious questions about the wisdom of injecting vaccines in children less than two years of age. The brain has its own specialized immune system, separate from that of the rest of the body. When a person is vaccinated, its specialized immune cells, the microglia, become activated (the blood-brain barrier notwithstanding). Multiple vaccinations spaced close together over-stimulate the microglia, causing them to release a variety of toxic elements – cytokines, chemokines, excitotoxins, proteases, complement, free radicals – that damage brain cells and their synaptic connections. Researchers call the damage caused by these toxic substances " bystander injury. " (Pediatricians and other professional colleagues who question this should read these two reviews by the neurosurgeon L. Blaylock: " Interaction of Cytokines, Excitotoxins, Reactive Nitrogen and Oxygen Species in Autism Spectrum Disorders, " in the Journal of the American Nutraceutical Association [JANA 2003;6(4):21–35], with 167 references. And " Chronic Microglial Activation and Excitotoxicity Secondary to Excessive Immune Stimulation: Possible Factors in Gulf War Syndrome and Autism, " in the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons [JAPS 2004;9(2):46–52], posted online <http://www.jpands.org/vol9no2/blaylock.pdf> , with 54 references.) In humans, the most rapid period of brain development begins in the third trimester and continues over the first two years of extra uterine life. (By then brain development is 80 percent complete.) Until randomized controlled trials demonstrate the safety of giving vaccines during this time of life, it would be prudent not to give any vaccinations to children until they are two years old. From a risk-benefit perspective, there is growing evidence that the risk of neurologic and autoimmune diseases from vaccinations outweigh the benefits of avoiding the childhood infections that they prevent. An exception is hepatitis B vaccine for infants whose mothers test positive for this disease. A user-friendly vaccination schedule prohibits any vaccines that contain thimerosal, which is 50 percent mercury. Flu vaccines contain thimerosal, which is reason enough to avoid them. (See my article " Mercury on the Mind <http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller14.html> " for more on this subject.) One should also avoid vaccines that contain live viruses. This includes the combined measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine; chickenpox (varicella) vaccine, and the live-virus polio (Sabin) vaccine. This stricture would not apply to the smallpox vaccine (also a live-virus one), if a terrorist-instigated outbreak of smallpox should occur. Finally, a user-friendly vaccination schedule requires that vaccinations, after the age of two, be given no more than once every six months, one at a time, in order to allow the immune system sufficient time to recover and stabilize between shots. Which vaccines should be put on this schedule (among those that do not contain live viruses or thimerosal) is not entirely clear. The top four would be the pertussis (acelluar – aP – not whole cell), diphtheria (D), and tetanus (T) vaccines – given separately (not together, as is usually the case); and the Salk polio vaccine, with an inactivated (dead) virus, one that is cultured in human cells, not monkey kidney cells. Perhaps it should only contain these four vaccines. A good case can be made (for example, see Null's Vaccines: A Second Opinion <http://www.garynull.com/Documents/vaccines-2ndopinion_excerpt.htm> ) for avoiding the three other newer vaccines on the CDC's schedule – the hepatitis B, pneumococcal conjugate (PCV7), and Hemophilus influenzae type b (Hib) vaccines. Your pediatrician will not like this schedule. They are taught in medical school and residency training that childhood immunizations are essential to public health. As one pediatrician puts it, " Achieving adequate and timely vaccination of young children is the single most valuable thing a doctor can do for a patient. " They do not question what their professors teach them, nor are they inclined to critically examine studies in Pediatrics and the New England Journal of Medicine that tell them vaccines are safe. There were 482,000 cases of measles in the U.S in 1962, the year before a vaccine for this disease became available. Now, with all fifty states requiring that children be vaccinated against measles in order to attend school, there were only 56 cases of measles in a population of 290 million people in 2003. These facts are well known and proudly cited by vaccine proponents. What is less known, and doctors are not taught, is that the death rate for measles declined 97.7 percent during the first 60 years of the 20th century. The mortality rate was 133 deaths per million people in the U.S. in 1900, and had dropped to 0.3 deaths per million by 1960. Measles caused less than 100 deaths a year in the U.S. before there was a vaccine for this disease (in 1963). The same thing happened with diphtheria and pertussis. Mortality rates dropped more than 90 percent in the early 20th century before vaccines for these diseases were introduced. This was due to better nutrition (with rapid delivery of fresh fruit and vegetables to cities and refrigeration), cleaner water, and improved sanitation (removing trash from the streets and better sewage systems), not to vaccines. The World Health Organization promotes mass vaccination, but knowing these facts states, " The best vaccine against common infectious diseases is an adequate diet " – fortified, one might add, with vitamin A. Since the measles vaccine came into widespread use in this country this disease has virtually disappeared, and it has prevented 100 deaths a year. But now, instead, several thousand normally developing children become autistic after receiving their MMR shot. Termed " regressive autism, " it accounts for about 30 percent of the 10,000 to 20,000 children who are diagnosed with autism in this country each year. To put to rest concerns that MMR vaccination might cause autism (in a small percentage of children), the New England Journal of Medicine, in 2002, published a population-based study from Denmark, where its authors concluded, " This study provides strong evidence against the hypothesis that MMR vaccination causes autism. " The NEJM did not disclose that the " Statens Serum Institut, " where three of the authors work, is a for-profit vaccine manufacturer, Denmark's largest, or that four other authors have financial ties to this company. Only one of the eight authors is not associated with this institute, and the CDC employs him. The study compares the prevalence of autism in 440,000 MMR vaccinated and 97,000 unvaccinated children in Denmark born in the 1990s. A statistical slight-of-hand in age adjustment makes the study show no causal effect; but when unmasked and reformatted, the data actually shows a statistically significant association between MMR vaccine and autism (as Carol Stott and her coauthors make clear in " MMR and Autism in Perspective: the Denmark Story, " in the Fall 2004 Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons, posted online <http://www.jpands.org/vol9no3/stott.pdf> ). Pediatrics and the Journal of the American Medical Association also have published studies like this supporting U.S. vaccine policy, written by authors with similar, undisclosed conflicts of interest <http://www.safeminds.org/pressroom/press_releases/20040518_AutismAuthor\ sNetwork.pdf> . Looking elsewhere, however, one comes across a number of disquieting facts about vaccines. Investigators have found, for example, live measles virus in the cerebral spinal fluid <http://www.jpands.org/vol9no2/bradstreet.pdf> in children who become autistic after MMR vaccination. Antibodies to measles virus are elevated in children with autism but not in normal kids, suggesting that virus-induced autoimmunity <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & do\ pt=Abstract & list_uids=12849883> may play a causal role. A study published in Neurology this year implicates hepatitis B vaccine as a causative factor in multiple sclerosis <http://www.neurology.org/cgi/content/abstract/63/5/838> . A communitarian ethic increasingly governs health care in the U.S. It places a greater value on the health of the community, on society as a whole, than on the health of particular individuals. Public health officials have put together a vaccination schedule designed to eliminate infectious diseases to which the population is prey. These officials recognize that these vaccines will harm a small percentage of (genetically susceptible) individuals, but it is for the common good. The communitarian code posits that it is morally acceptable, if necessary, to sacrifice a few for the good of the many. Or as one observer more bluntly puts it, " Individual sheep can be sheared and slaughtered if it is for the welfare of their flock. " In this framework, health care providers become agents of the state charged with injecting vaccines into people that the central planners deem necessary. Physicians who remain true to their Hippocratic Oath and place the interests of their patient above that of the herd are considered to be out of step with the times, if not an anachronism. Like central planners everywhere, the CDC's Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) promulgates a self-serving, one-size-fits-all vaccine policy. Members of this committee have ties to vaccine makers, such that the CDC must grant them waivers from statutory conflict of interest rules. Even so, and with little evidence to show that it is safe to subject young children to the ACIP's crowded immunization schedule, states nevertheless dutifully make its vaccine recommendations compulsory. All 50 states require children to be immunized against measles <http://www.immunize.org/laws/dtp02b.pdf> , diphtheria <http://www.immunize.org/laws/dtp02b.pdf> , Hemophilus influenzae type b <http://www.immunize.org/laws/hib02.pdf> , polio <http://www.immunize.org/laws/polio02a.pdf> , and rubella <http://www.immunize.org/laws/mmr02a.pdf> in order to enroll in day care and/or public school. Forty-nine states also require vaccination against tetanus <http://www.immunize.org/laws/dtp02b.pdf> ; 47, against hepatitis B <http://www.immunize.org/laws/hepbdcmap.pdf> and mumps <http://www.immunize.org/laws/mmr02a.pdf> ; and 43 states now require vaccination against chickenpox <http://www.immunize.org/laws/varimap.pdf> . In order to shield themselves from any liability for making vaccinations compulsory, all states provide a medical exemption and 47, a religious exemption. Nineteen states allow a philosophical exemption. Some require only a letter from a parent and others, from a physician or church leader. (To see the exemptions allowed in your state, their wording and requirements, click here <http://www.909shot.com/state-site/state-exemptions.htm> .) Parents, of course, can refuse vaccination; but if they want to enroll their child in public school they will need to obtain one of these exemptions. Doctors who conclude that the risks of the government's immunization schedule outweigh its benefits are placed in a difficult position. If they counsel parents not to have their children follow it, health care plans, which track vaccine compliance as a measure of " quality, " will find them wanting. And if their patient should contract and develop complications from the disease the vaccine would have prevented they may find themselves confronting a lawsuit. If a child becomes autistic following a vaccination, however, the doctor is protected from any liability because the government requires it and the child's parents, if they had chosen to do so, could have obtained an exemption. (Anti-vaccine advocates call developing autism, asthma, and Type I diabetes after vaccinations " vaccination roulette. " ) Parents should have the freedom to select whatever vaccination schedule they want their children to follow, especially since health care providers and the government (except via its Vaccine Injury Compensation Program) cannot be held accountable for any adverse outcomes that might occur. But if parents elect to not follow the CDC's immunization schedule, delaying some vaccinations, refusing others, or avoiding them altogether, then they must accept the risk that their child might contract the disease that the vaccine against it most likely would have prevented. One consideration, which vaccine proponents do not address, is this: Could contracting childhood diseases like measles, mumps, rubella, and chickenpox play a constructive role in the maturation of a person's immune system? Or, to put it another way, does removing natural infection from human experience have any adverse consequences? Our species' immune system – a one-trillion-cell army that patrols our (100-trillion-cell) body – serves two main purposes. It destroys foreign invaders – viruses, bacteria, and other pathogens. And it destroys aberrant cells in the body that run amuck and cause cancer. Behind the barricades of skin and mucosa, our innate immune system (composed of phagocytes, natural killer cells, and the 20-protein complement system), which all animals have, is the body's first line of defense. It reacts to invaders lightening fast and indiscriminately, but it is not very good at eliminating viruses and cancerous cells. Vertebrates have evolved a second line of defense – the adaptive immune system. It targets specific viruses and bacteria and has better artillery for eliminating cancerous cells. This system matures during childhood, and it has a cellular (Th1) and humoral (Th2) component (Th = helper T cell). The viruses that cause measles, mumps, and chickenpox have infected countless generations of humans, akin to a rite of passage for each member of our species. Contracting these diseases strengthens both parts of the adaptive immune system (Th1 and Th2 ). Mothers who have had measles, mumps, and chickenpox transfer antibodies against them to their babies in utero, which protect them during the first year of life from contracting these infections. Vaccinations do not have the same effect on the immune system as naturally acquired diseases do. They stimulate predominantly the Th2 part of this system and not Th1. (Over-stimulation of Th2 causes autoimmune diseases.) The cellular Th1 side thwarts cancer, and if it does not become fully developed in childhood a person can be more prone to have cancer as an adult. Women who had mumps during childhood, for example, are found to be less likely to have ovarian cancer than women who did not have this infection. (This study was published in Cancer.) Could the fact that cancer has become a leading cause of death in children be a result of vaccinations? Only a randomized controlled trial can conclusively answer this question With rare exception, a well-nourished child who contracts measles will recover smoothly from the infection. Fifty years ago almost all children in the U.S. had measles. And after contracting this disease, one has life-long immunity to it. The protection provided by vaccination is temporary. Adults who contract measles (when the protective effects of the vaccine wears off) are much more likely to have neurological, testicular, and ovarian complications. Likewise, rubella is a benign disease in children, but if a woman acquires it during pregnancy fetal malformations may develop. One can argue, heretical as such an argument may be, that it would be better to let children have measles, at an age when the infection helps the adaptive immune system mature in a balanced Th1/Th2 fashion and complications from this disease are minimal, rather than vaccinate them against this disease (especially considering the risks of vaccination). Pertussis and Diphtheria are a different matter. These diseases are more virulent. Children who contract whooping cough (pertussis) can be incapacitated for more than a month. Polio can be devastating in susceptible individuals. And no one wants to get tetanus (lockjaw). A user-friendly vaccination schedule would include vaccines against these diseases. Whatever vaccination schedule one chooses, mothers should breast-feed their child for as long as possible – a year or more. Failing that, add Omega-3 fatty acids, especially DHA (docosahexanoic acid), to the child's formula. In summary, this is a vaccination schedule that I would recommend: 1. No vaccinations until a child is two years old. 2. No vaccines that contain thimerosal (mercury). 3. No live virus vaccines (except for smallpox, should it recur). 4. These vaccines, to be given one at a time, every six months, beginning at age 2: 1. Pertussis (acellular, not whole cell) 2. Diphtheria 3. Tetanus 4. Polio (the Salk vaccine, cultured in human cells) American children are the most highly vaccinated kids in the world. This schedule is an alternative to the one that rules our " vaccine nation <http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/9941/cotts.php> " (as the Village Voice terms it). In contrast to the CDC's immunization schedule, it is user-friendly. December 10, 2004 (send him mail <mailto:dwm@...%20> ) is a cardiac surgeon and Professor of Surgery at the University of Washington in Seattle and a member of Doctors for Disaster Preparedness <http://www.oism.org/ddp/> and writes articles on a variety of subjects for LewRockwell.com, including bioterrorism. His web site is www.donaldmiller.com <http://www.donaldmiller.com/> . Copyright © 2004 LewRockwell.com > > > Don't know if vaccines are to blame or > > not, but the > > obvious response to the just released " difinitive " > > study dismissing a > > link is obvious. The basis of the study is that > > while there has been > > a significant decrease in thimerosal containing > > vaccines being give > > to children, there has been a massive increase in > > the number of > > children diagnosed with autism. > > > > > > Who says the damage is only being caused by > > vaccinations being > > given to children who manifest ASD symptoms. 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Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 Please do not get me wrong - yes, I do believe in certain vaccines. I do, however, believe that in our money-driven society where big business has entirely too much power...that maybe we are going over board. This is not far-fetched. Read below - I found this article to be very imformative. I certainly respect people's opinions on the other side of the fence. I am very well read on these topics. And I just don't feel right about the current state of afairs... Jessie --------------------------------------- In summary, this is a vaccination schedule that I would recommend: 1. No vaccinations until a child is two years old. 2. No vaccines that contain thimerosal (mercury). 3. No live virus vaccines (except for smallpox, should it recur). 4. These vaccines, to be given one at a time, every six months, beginning at age 2: 1. Pertussis (acellular, not whole cell) 2. Diphtheria 3. Tetanus 4. Polio (the Salk vaccine, cultured in human cells) A User-Friendly Vaccination Schedule by W. , Jr., MD <mailto:dwm@...%20> by W. , Jr., MD [save a link to this article and return to it at www.savethis.com] [save a link to this article and return to it at www.savethis.com] <http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller15.html#> [Email a link to this article] [Email a link to this article] <http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller15.html#> [Printer-friendly version of this article] [Printer-friendly version of this article] <http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller15.html#> [View a list of the most popular articles on our site] [View a list of the most popular articles on our site] <http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller15.html#> Vaccination is a controversial subject, and many parents worry about subjecting their children to them. Readers of my article " Mercury on the Mind <http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller14.html> , " about vaccines and dental amalgams, have asked what vaccines I would recommend their children receive. This article addresses that question. In the Recommended Childhood Immunization Schedule put out by the CDC (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention), 12 vaccines are given to children before they reach the age of two. Providers inject them against hepatitis B, diphtheria, tetanus (lockjaw), pertussis (whooping cough), polio, pneumococcal infections, Hemophilus influenzae type b infections, measles, mumps, rubella (German measles), chickenpox, and influenza (the flu). Infectious disease was the leading cause of death in children 100 years ago, with diphtheria, measles, scarlet fever, and pertussis accounting for most them. Today the leading causes of death in children less than five years of age are accidents, genetic abnormalities, developmental disorders, sudden infant death syndrome, and cancer. A basic tenet of modern medicine is that vaccines are the reason. There is growing evidence that this is so, but perhaps not quite in the way conventional medical wisdom would have it. A 15-member Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices at the CDC decides which vaccines should be on the Childhood Immunization Schedule <http://www2a.cdc.gov/nip/scheduler_le/schedule.asp> . It calls for one vaccine, against hepatitis B, to be given on the day of birth; 7 vaccines at two months; 6 more (including booster shots) at four months; and as many as 8 vaccines on the six month well-baby visit. Before a child reaches the age of two he or she will have received 32 vaccinations on this schedule, including four doses each of vaccines for Hemophilus influenzae type b infections, diphtheria, tetanus, and pertussis – all of them given during the first 12 months of life. Seven vaccines injected into a 13 lb. two-month old infant are equivalent to 70 doses in a 130 lb. adult. The schedule states, " Your child can safely receive all vaccines recommended for a particular age during one visit. " Public health officials, however, have not proven that it is indeed safe to inject this many vaccines into infants. What's more, they cannot explain why, concurrent with an increasing number of vaccinations, there has been an explosion of neurologic and immune system disorders in our nation's children. Fifty years ago, when the immunization schedule contained only four vaccines (for diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis, and smallpox), autism was virtually unknown. First discovered in 1943, this most devastating malady in what is now a spectrum of pervasive developmental disorders afflicted less than 1 in 10,000 children. Today, one in every 68 American families has an autistic child. Other, less severe developmental disorders, rarely seen before the vaccine era, have also reached epidemic proportions. Four million American children have Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder. One in six American children are now classified as " Learning Disabled. " Our children are also experiencing an epidemic of autoimmune disorders – Type I diabetes, rheumatoid arthritis, asthma, and bowel disorders. There has been a 17-fold increase in Type I diabetes, from 1 in 7,100 children in the 1950s to 1 in 400 now. Juvenile rheumatoid arthritis afflicts 300,000 American children. Twenty-five years ago this disease was so rare that public health officials did not keep any statistics on it. There has been a 4-fold increase in asthma, and bowel disorders in children are much more common now than they were 50 years ago. Health officials consider a vaccine to be safe if no bad reactions – like seizures, intestinal obstruction, or anaphylaxis – occur acutely. The CDC has not done any studies to assess the long-term effects of its immunization schedule. To do that one must conduct a randomized controlled trial, the lynchpin of evidenced-based medicine <http://www.cebm.net/levels_of_evidence.asp> , where one group of children is vaccinated on the CDC's schedule and a control group is not vaccinated. Investigators then follow the two groups for a number of years (not just three to four weeks, as has been done in vaccine safety studies). Concerns that vaccinations in infants cause chronic neurologic and immune system disorders would be put to rest, and their safety certified, if the number of children who develop these diseases is the same in both groups. No such studies have been done, so vaccine proponents cannot say that vaccines are indeed as safe as they think they are. (One proponent <http://www.autismtruth.org/> , interviewed by Dan Rather on 60 Minutes, who has financial ties to the vaccine industry that he did not disclose, claims that vaccines " have a better safety record than vitamins. " He neglected to mention that the U.S. government has paid out more than $1.5 billion in its Vaccine Injury Compensation Program to families of children who have been injured or killed by vaccines.) There is a growing body of evidence that implicates vaccines as a causative factor in the deteriorating health of children. The hypothesis that vaccines cause neurologic and immune system disorders is a legitimate one – vaccines given in multiple doses, close together, to very young children following the CDC's Immunization Schedule. This hypothesis should be tested by a large-scale, long-term randomized controlled trial. Rather than obediently following the government's schedule, there is now sufficient evidence, grounded in good science, to justify adopting a more user-friendly vaccination schedule, one which is in the best interests of the individual as opposed to what planners judge best for society as a whole. New knowledge in neuroimmunology (the study of how the brain's immune system works) raises serious questions about the wisdom of injecting vaccines in children less than two years of age. The brain has its own specialized immune system, separate from that of the rest of the body. When a person is vaccinated, its specialized immune cells, the microglia, become activated (the blood-brain barrier notwithstanding). Multiple vaccinations spaced close together over-stimulate the microglia, causing them to release a variety of toxic elements – cytokines, chemokines, excitotoxins, proteases, complement, free radicals – that damage brain cells and their synaptic connections. Researchers call the damage caused by these toxic substances " bystander injury. " (Pediatricians and other professional colleagues who question this should read these two reviews by the neurosurgeon L. Blaylock: " Interaction of Cytokines, Excitotoxins, Reactive Nitrogen and Oxygen Species in Autism Spectrum Disorders, " in the Journal of the American Nutraceutical Association [JANA 2003;6(4):21–35], with 167 references. And " Chronic Microglial Activation and Excitotoxicity Secondary to Excessive Immune Stimulation: Possible Factors in Gulf War Syndrome and Autism, " in the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons [JAPS 2004;9(2):46–52], posted online <http://www.jpands.org/vol9no2/blaylock.pdf> , with 54 references.) In humans, the most rapid period of brain development begins in the third trimester and continues over the first two years of extra uterine life. (By then brain development is 80 percent complete.) Until randomized controlled trials demonstrate the safety of giving vaccines during this time of life, it would be prudent not to give any vaccinations to children until they are two years old. From a risk-benefit perspective, there is growing evidence that the risk of neurologic and autoimmune diseases from vaccinations outweigh the benefits of avoiding the childhood infections that they prevent. An exception is hepatitis B vaccine for infants whose mothers test positive for this disease. A user-friendly vaccination schedule prohibits any vaccines that contain thimerosal, which is 50 percent mercury. Flu vaccines contain thimerosal, which is reason enough to avoid them. (See my article " Mercury on the Mind <http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller14.html> " for more on this subject.) One should also avoid vaccines that contain live viruses. This includes the combined measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine; chickenpox (varicella) vaccine, and the live-virus polio (Sabin) vaccine. This stricture would not apply to the smallpox vaccine (also a live-virus one), if a terrorist-instigated outbreak of smallpox should occur. Finally, a user-friendly vaccination schedule requires that vaccinations, after the age of two, be given no more than once every six months, one at a time, in order to allow the immune system sufficient time to recover and stabilize between shots. Which vaccines should be put on this schedule (among those that do not contain live viruses or thimerosal) is not entirely clear. The top four would be the pertussis (acelluar – aP – not whole cell), diphtheria (D), and tetanus (T) vaccines – given separately (not together, as is usually the case); and the Salk polio vaccine, with an inactivated (dead) virus, one that is cultured in human cells, not monkey kidney cells. Perhaps it should only contain these four vaccines. A good case can be made (for example, see Null's Vaccines: A Second Opinion <http://www.garynull.com/Documents/vaccines-2ndopinion_excerpt.htm> ) for avoiding the three other newer vaccines on the CDC's schedule – the hepatitis B, pneumococcal conjugate (PCV7), and Hemophilus influenzae type b (Hib) vaccines. Your pediatrician will not like this schedule. They are taught in medical school and residency training that childhood immunizations are essential to public health. As one pediatrician puts it, " Achieving adequate and timely vaccination of young children is the single most valuable thing a doctor can do for a patient. " They do not question what their professors teach them, nor are they inclined to critically examine studies in Pediatrics and the New England Journal of Medicine that tell them vaccines are safe. There were 482,000 cases of measles in the U.S in 1962, the year before a vaccine for this disease became available. Now, with all fifty states requiring that children be vaccinated against measles in order to attend school, there were only 56 cases of measles in a population of 290 million people in 2003. These facts are well known and proudly cited by vaccine proponents. What is less known, and doctors are not taught, is that the death rate for measles declined 97.7 percent during the first 60 years of the 20th century. The mortality rate was 133 deaths per million people in the U.S. in 1900, and had dropped to 0.3 deaths per million by 1960. Measles caused less than 100 deaths a year in the U.S. before there was a vaccine for this disease (in 1963). The same thing happened with diphtheria and pertussis. Mortality rates dropped more than 90 percent in the early 20th century before vaccines for these diseases were introduced. This was due to better nutrition (with rapid delivery of fresh fruit and vegetables to cities and refrigeration), cleaner water, and improved sanitation (removing trash from the streets and better sewage systems), not to vaccines. The World Health Organization promotes mass vaccination, but knowing these facts states, " The best vaccine against common infectious diseases is an adequate diet " – fortified, one might add, with vitamin A. Since the measles vaccine came into widespread use in this country this disease has virtually disappeared, and it has prevented 100 deaths a year. But now, instead, several thousand normally developing children become autistic after receiving their MMR shot. Termed " regressive autism, " it accounts for about 30 percent of the 10,000 to 20,000 children who are diagnosed with autism in this country each year. To put to rest concerns that MMR vaccination might cause autism (in a small percentage of children), the New England Journal of Medicine, in 2002, published a population-based study from Denmark, where its authors concluded, " This study provides strong evidence against the hypothesis that MMR vaccination causes autism. " The NEJM did not disclose that the " Statens Serum Institut, " where three of the authors work, is a for-profit vaccine manufacturer, Denmark's largest, or that four other authors have financial ties to this company. Only one of the eight authors is not associated with this institute, and the CDC employs him. The study compares the prevalence of autism in 440,000 MMR vaccinated and 97,000 unvaccinated children in Denmark born in the 1990s. A statistical slight-of-hand in age adjustment makes the study show no causal effect; but when unmasked and reformatted, the data actually shows a statistically significant association between MMR vaccine and autism (as Carol Stott and her coauthors make clear in " MMR and Autism in Perspective: the Denmark Story, " in the Fall 2004 Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons, posted online <http://www.jpands.org/vol9no3/stott.pdf> ). Pediatrics and the Journal of the American Medical Association also have published studies like this supporting U.S. vaccine policy, written by authors with similar, undisclosed conflicts of interest <http://www.safeminds.org/pressroom/press_releases/20040518_AutismAuthor\ sNetwork.pdf> . Looking elsewhere, however, one comes across a number of disquieting facts about vaccines. Investigators have found, for example, live measles virus in the cerebral spinal fluid <http://www.jpands.org/vol9no2/bradstreet.pdf> in children who become autistic after MMR vaccination. Antibodies to measles virus are elevated in children with autism but not in normal kids, suggesting that virus-induced autoimmunity <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & do\ pt=Abstract & list_uids=12849883> may play a causal role. A study published in Neurology this year implicates hepatitis B vaccine as a causative factor in multiple sclerosis <http://www.neurology.org/cgi/content/abstract/63/5/838> . A communitarian ethic increasingly governs health care in the U.S. It places a greater value on the health of the community, on society as a whole, than on the health of particular individuals. Public health officials have put together a vaccination schedule designed to eliminate infectious diseases to which the population is prey. These officials recognize that these vaccines will harm a small percentage of (genetically susceptible) individuals, but it is for the common good. The communitarian code posits that it is morally acceptable, if necessary, to sacrifice a few for the good of the many. Or as one observer more bluntly puts it, " Individual sheep can be sheared and slaughtered if it is for the welfare of their flock. " In this framework, health care providers become agents of the state charged with injecting vaccines into people that the central planners deem necessary. Physicians who remain true to their Hippocratic Oath and place the interests of their patient above that of the herd are considered to be out of step with the times, if not an anachronism. Like central planners everywhere, the CDC's Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) promulgates a self-serving, one-size-fits-all vaccine policy. Members of this committee have ties to vaccine makers, such that the CDC must grant them waivers from statutory conflict of interest rules. Even so, and with little evidence to show that it is safe to subject young children to the ACIP's crowded immunization schedule, states nevertheless dutifully make its vaccine recommendations compulsory. All 50 states require children to be immunized against measles <http://www.immunize.org/laws/dtp02b.pdf> , diphtheria <http://www.immunize.org/laws/dtp02b.pdf> , Hemophilus influenzae type b <http://www.immunize.org/laws/hib02.pdf> , polio <http://www.immunize.org/laws/polio02a.pdf> , and rubella <http://www.immunize.org/laws/mmr02a.pdf> in order to enroll in day care and/or public school. Forty-nine states also require vaccination against tetanus <http://www.immunize.org/laws/dtp02b.pdf> ; 47, against hepatitis B <http://www.immunize.org/laws/hepbdcmap.pdf> and mumps <http://www.immunize.org/laws/mmr02a.pdf> ; and 43 states now require vaccination against chickenpox <http://www.immunize.org/laws/varimap.pdf> . In order to shield themselves from any liability for making vaccinations compulsory, all states provide a medical exemption and 47, a religious exemption. Nineteen states allow a philosophical exemption. Some require only a letter from a parent and others, from a physician or church leader. (To see the exemptions allowed in your state, their wording and requirements, click here <http://www.909shot.com/state-site/state-exemptions.htm> .) Parents, of course, can refuse vaccination; but if they want to enroll their child in public school they will need to obtain one of these exemptions. Doctors who conclude that the risks of the government's immunization schedule outweigh its benefits are placed in a difficult position. If they counsel parents not to have their children follow it, health care plans, which track vaccine compliance as a measure of " quality, " will find them wanting. And if their patient should contract and develop complications from the disease the vaccine would have prevented they may find themselves confronting a lawsuit. If a child becomes autistic following a vaccination, however, the doctor is protected from any liability because the government requires it and the child's parents, if they had chosen to do so, could have obtained an exemption. (Anti-vaccine advocates call developing autism, asthma, and Type I diabetes after vaccinations " vaccination roulette. " ) Parents should have the freedom to select whatever vaccination schedule they want their children to follow, especially since health care providers and the government (except via its Vaccine Injury Compensation Program) cannot be held accountable for any adverse outcomes that might occur. But if parents elect to not follow the CDC's immunization schedule, delaying some vaccinations, refusing others, or avoiding them altogether, then they must accept the risk that their child might contract the disease that the vaccine against it most likely would have prevented. One consideration, which vaccine proponents do not address, is this: Could contracting childhood diseases like measles, mumps, rubella, and chickenpox play a constructive role in the maturation of a person's immune system? Or, to put it another way, does removing natural infection from human experience have any adverse consequences? Our species' immune system – a one-trillion-cell army that patrols our (100-trillion-cell) body – serves two main purposes. It destroys foreign invaders – viruses, bacteria, and other pathogens. And it destroys aberrant cells in the body that run amuck and cause cancer. Behind the barricades of skin and mucosa, our innate immune system (composed of phagocytes, natural killer cells, and the 20-protein complement system), which all animals have, is the body's first line of defense. It reacts to invaders lightening fast and indiscriminately, but it is not very good at eliminating viruses and cancerous cells. Vertebrates have evolved a second line of defense – the adaptive immune system. It targets specific viruses and bacteria and has better artillery for eliminating cancerous cells. This system matures during childhood, and it has a cellular (Th1) and humoral (Th2) component (Th = helper T cell). The viruses that cause measles, mumps, and chickenpox have infected countless generations of humans, akin to a rite of passage for each member of our species. Contracting these diseases strengthens both parts of the adaptive immune system (Th1 and Th2 ). Mothers who have had measles, mumps, and chickenpox transfer antibodies against them to their babies in utero, which protect them during the first year of life from contracting these infections. Vaccinations do not have the same effect on the immune system as naturally acquired diseases do. They stimulate predominantly the Th2 part of this system and not Th1. (Over-stimulation of Th2 causes autoimmune diseases.) The cellular Th1 side thwarts cancer, and if it does not become fully developed in childhood a person can be more prone to have cancer as an adult. Women who had mumps during childhood, for example, are found to be less likely to have ovarian cancer than women who did not have this infection. (This study was published in Cancer.) Could the fact that cancer has become a leading cause of death in children be a result of vaccinations? Only a randomized controlled trial can conclusively answer this question With rare exception, a well-nourished child who contracts measles will recover smoothly from the infection. Fifty years ago almost all children in the U.S. had measles. And after contracting this disease, one has life-long immunity to it. The protection provided by vaccination is temporary. Adults who contract measles (when the protective effects of the vaccine wears off) are much more likely to have neurological, testicular, and ovarian complications. Likewise, rubella is a benign disease in children, but if a woman acquires it during pregnancy fetal malformations may develop. One can argue, heretical as such an argument may be, that it would be better to let children have measles, at an age when the infection helps the adaptive immune system mature in a balanced Th1/Th2 fashion and complications from this disease are minimal, rather than vaccinate them against this disease (especially considering the risks of vaccination). Pertussis and Diphtheria are a different matter. These diseases are more virulent. Children who contract whooping cough (pertussis) can be incapacitated for more than a month. Polio can be devastating in susceptible individuals. And no one wants to get tetanus (lockjaw). A user-friendly vaccination schedule would include vaccines against these diseases. Whatever vaccination schedule one chooses, mothers should breast-feed their child for as long as possible – a year or more. Failing that, add Omega-3 fatty acids, especially DHA (docosahexanoic acid), to the child's formula. In summary, this is a vaccination schedule that I would recommend: 1. No vaccinations until a child is two years old. 2. No vaccines that contain thimerosal (mercury). 3. No live virus vaccines (except for smallpox, should it recur). 4. These vaccines, to be given one at a time, every six months, beginning at age 2: 1. Pertussis (acellular, not whole cell) 2. Diphtheria 3. Tetanus 4. Polio (the Salk vaccine, cultured in human cells) American children are the most highly vaccinated kids in the world. This schedule is an alternative to the one that rules our " vaccine nation <http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/9941/cotts.php> " (as the Village Voice terms it). In contrast to the CDC's immunization schedule, it is user-friendly. December 10, 2004 (send him mail <mailto:dwm@...%20> ) is a cardiac surgeon and Professor of Surgery at the University of Washington in Seattle and a member of Doctors for Disaster Preparedness <http://www.oism.org/ddp/> and writes articles on a variety of subjects for LewRockwell.com, including bioterrorism. His web site is www.donaldmiller.com <http://www.donaldmiller.com/> . Copyright © 2004 LewRockwell.com > > > Don't know if vaccines are to blame or > > not, but the > > obvious response to the just released " difinitive " > > study dismissing a > > link is obvious. The basis of the study is that > > while there has been > > a significant decrease in thimerosal containing > > vaccines being give > > to children, there has been a massive increase in > > the number of > > children diagnosed with autism. > > > > > > Who says the damage is only being caused by > > vaccinations being > > given to children who manifest ASD symptoms. Perhaps > > the answer is to > > be found in looking at the genetic damage done to > > the children's > > parents who were given these vacinations. > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chef Amy > > > Reel Thyme Cooking, LLC > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all > > with Yahoo! Mobile. > > Try it now. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________\ ____________ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 Please do not get me wrong - yes, I do believe in certain vaccines. I do, however, believe that in our money-driven society where big business has entirely too much power...that maybe we are going over board. This is not far-fetched. Read below - I found this article to be very imformative. I certainly respect people's opinions on the other side of the fence. I am very well read on these topics. And I just don't feel right about the current state of afairs... Jessie --------------------------------------- In summary, this is a vaccination schedule that I would recommend: 1. No vaccinations until a child is two years old. 2. No vaccines that contain thimerosal (mercury). 3. No live virus vaccines (except for smallpox, should it recur). 4. These vaccines, to be given one at a time, every six months, beginning at age 2: 1. Pertussis (acellular, not whole cell) 2. Diphtheria 3. Tetanus 4. Polio (the Salk vaccine, cultured in human cells) A User-Friendly Vaccination Schedule by W. , Jr., MD <mailto:dwm@...%20> by W. , Jr., MD [save a link to this article and return to it at www.savethis.com] [save a link to this article and return to it at www.savethis.com] <http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller15.html#> [Email a link to this article] [Email a link to this article] <http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller15.html#> [Printer-friendly version of this article] [Printer-friendly version of this article] <http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller15.html#> [View a list of the most popular articles on our site] [View a list of the most popular articles on our site] <http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller15.html#> Vaccination is a controversial subject, and many parents worry about subjecting their children to them. Readers of my article " Mercury on the Mind <http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller14.html> , " about vaccines and dental amalgams, have asked what vaccines I would recommend their children receive. This article addresses that question. In the Recommended Childhood Immunization Schedule put out by the CDC (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention), 12 vaccines are given to children before they reach the age of two. Providers inject them against hepatitis B, diphtheria, tetanus (lockjaw), pertussis (whooping cough), polio, pneumococcal infections, Hemophilus influenzae type b infections, measles, mumps, rubella (German measles), chickenpox, and influenza (the flu). Infectious disease was the leading cause of death in children 100 years ago, with diphtheria, measles, scarlet fever, and pertussis accounting for most them. Today the leading causes of death in children less than five years of age are accidents, genetic abnormalities, developmental disorders, sudden infant death syndrome, and cancer. A basic tenet of modern medicine is that vaccines are the reason. There is growing evidence that this is so, but perhaps not quite in the way conventional medical wisdom would have it. A 15-member Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices at the CDC decides which vaccines should be on the Childhood Immunization Schedule <http://www2a.cdc.gov/nip/scheduler_le/schedule.asp> . It calls for one vaccine, against hepatitis B, to be given on the day of birth; 7 vaccines at two months; 6 more (including booster shots) at four months; and as many as 8 vaccines on the six month well-baby visit. Before a child reaches the age of two he or she will have received 32 vaccinations on this schedule, including four doses each of vaccines for Hemophilus influenzae type b infections, diphtheria, tetanus, and pertussis – all of them given during the first 12 months of life. Seven vaccines injected into a 13 lb. two-month old infant are equivalent to 70 doses in a 130 lb. adult. The schedule states, " Your child can safely receive all vaccines recommended for a particular age during one visit. " Public health officials, however, have not proven that it is indeed safe to inject this many vaccines into infants. What's more, they cannot explain why, concurrent with an increasing number of vaccinations, there has been an explosion of neurologic and immune system disorders in our nation's children. Fifty years ago, when the immunization schedule contained only four vaccines (for diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis, and smallpox), autism was virtually unknown. First discovered in 1943, this most devastating malady in what is now a spectrum of pervasive developmental disorders afflicted less than 1 in 10,000 children. Today, one in every 68 American families has an autistic child. Other, less severe developmental disorders, rarely seen before the vaccine era, have also reached epidemic proportions. Four million American children have Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder. One in six American children are now classified as " Learning Disabled. " Our children are also experiencing an epidemic of autoimmune disorders – Type I diabetes, rheumatoid arthritis, asthma, and bowel disorders. There has been a 17-fold increase in Type I diabetes, from 1 in 7,100 children in the 1950s to 1 in 400 now. Juvenile rheumatoid arthritis afflicts 300,000 American children. Twenty-five years ago this disease was so rare that public health officials did not keep any statistics on it. There has been a 4-fold increase in asthma, and bowel disorders in children are much more common now than they were 50 years ago. Health officials consider a vaccine to be safe if no bad reactions – like seizures, intestinal obstruction, or anaphylaxis – occur acutely. The CDC has not done any studies to assess the long-term effects of its immunization schedule. To do that one must conduct a randomized controlled trial, the lynchpin of evidenced-based medicine <http://www.cebm.net/levels_of_evidence.asp> , where one group of children is vaccinated on the CDC's schedule and a control group is not vaccinated. Investigators then follow the two groups for a number of years (not just three to four weeks, as has been done in vaccine safety studies). Concerns that vaccinations in infants cause chronic neurologic and immune system disorders would be put to rest, and their safety certified, if the number of children who develop these diseases is the same in both groups. No such studies have been done, so vaccine proponents cannot say that vaccines are indeed as safe as they think they are. (One proponent <http://www.autismtruth.org/> , interviewed by Dan Rather on 60 Minutes, who has financial ties to the vaccine industry that he did not disclose, claims that vaccines " have a better safety record than vitamins. " He neglected to mention that the U.S. government has paid out more than $1.5 billion in its Vaccine Injury Compensation Program to families of children who have been injured or killed by vaccines.) There is a growing body of evidence that implicates vaccines as a causative factor in the deteriorating health of children. The hypothesis that vaccines cause neurologic and immune system disorders is a legitimate one – vaccines given in multiple doses, close together, to very young children following the CDC's Immunization Schedule. This hypothesis should be tested by a large-scale, long-term randomized controlled trial. Rather than obediently following the government's schedule, there is now sufficient evidence, grounded in good science, to justify adopting a more user-friendly vaccination schedule, one which is in the best interests of the individual as opposed to what planners judge best for society as a whole. New knowledge in neuroimmunology (the study of how the brain's immune system works) raises serious questions about the wisdom of injecting vaccines in children less than two years of age. The brain has its own specialized immune system, separate from that of the rest of the body. When a person is vaccinated, its specialized immune cells, the microglia, become activated (the blood-brain barrier notwithstanding). Multiple vaccinations spaced close together over-stimulate the microglia, causing them to release a variety of toxic elements – cytokines, chemokines, excitotoxins, proteases, complement, free radicals – that damage brain cells and their synaptic connections. Researchers call the damage caused by these toxic substances " bystander injury. " (Pediatricians and other professional colleagues who question this should read these two reviews by the neurosurgeon L. Blaylock: " Interaction of Cytokines, Excitotoxins, Reactive Nitrogen and Oxygen Species in Autism Spectrum Disorders, " in the Journal of the American Nutraceutical Association [JANA 2003;6(4):21–35], with 167 references. And " Chronic Microglial Activation and Excitotoxicity Secondary to Excessive Immune Stimulation: Possible Factors in Gulf War Syndrome and Autism, " in the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons [JAPS 2004;9(2):46–52], posted online <http://www.jpands.org/vol9no2/blaylock.pdf> , with 54 references.) In humans, the most rapid period of brain development begins in the third trimester and continues over the first two years of extra uterine life. (By then brain development is 80 percent complete.) Until randomized controlled trials demonstrate the safety of giving vaccines during this time of life, it would be prudent not to give any vaccinations to children until they are two years old. From a risk-benefit perspective, there is growing evidence that the risk of neurologic and autoimmune diseases from vaccinations outweigh the benefits of avoiding the childhood infections that they prevent. An exception is hepatitis B vaccine for infants whose mothers test positive for this disease. A user-friendly vaccination schedule prohibits any vaccines that contain thimerosal, which is 50 percent mercury. Flu vaccines contain thimerosal, which is reason enough to avoid them. (See my article " Mercury on the Mind <http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller14.html> " for more on this subject.) One should also avoid vaccines that contain live viruses. This includes the combined measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine; chickenpox (varicella) vaccine, and the live-virus polio (Sabin) vaccine. This stricture would not apply to the smallpox vaccine (also a live-virus one), if a terrorist-instigated outbreak of smallpox should occur. Finally, a user-friendly vaccination schedule requires that vaccinations, after the age of two, be given no more than once every six months, one at a time, in order to allow the immune system sufficient time to recover and stabilize between shots. Which vaccines should be put on this schedule (among those that do not contain live viruses or thimerosal) is not entirely clear. The top four would be the pertussis (acelluar – aP – not whole cell), diphtheria (D), and tetanus (T) vaccines – given separately (not together, as is usually the case); and the Salk polio vaccine, with an inactivated (dead) virus, one that is cultured in human cells, not monkey kidney cells. Perhaps it should only contain these four vaccines. A good case can be made (for example, see Null's Vaccines: A Second Opinion <http://www.garynull.com/Documents/vaccines-2ndopinion_excerpt.htm> ) for avoiding the three other newer vaccines on the CDC's schedule – the hepatitis B, pneumococcal conjugate (PCV7), and Hemophilus influenzae type b (Hib) vaccines. Your pediatrician will not like this schedule. They are taught in medical school and residency training that childhood immunizations are essential to public health. As one pediatrician puts it, " Achieving adequate and timely vaccination of young children is the single most valuable thing a doctor can do for a patient. " They do not question what their professors teach them, nor are they inclined to critically examine studies in Pediatrics and the New England Journal of Medicine that tell them vaccines are safe. There were 482,000 cases of measles in the U.S in 1962, the year before a vaccine for this disease became available. Now, with all fifty states requiring that children be vaccinated against measles in order to attend school, there were only 56 cases of measles in a population of 290 million people in 2003. These facts are well known and proudly cited by vaccine proponents. What is less known, and doctors are not taught, is that the death rate for measles declined 97.7 percent during the first 60 years of the 20th century. The mortality rate was 133 deaths per million people in the U.S. in 1900, and had dropped to 0.3 deaths per million by 1960. Measles caused less than 100 deaths a year in the U.S. before there was a vaccine for this disease (in 1963). The same thing happened with diphtheria and pertussis. Mortality rates dropped more than 90 percent in the early 20th century before vaccines for these diseases were introduced. This was due to better nutrition (with rapid delivery of fresh fruit and vegetables to cities and refrigeration), cleaner water, and improved sanitation (removing trash from the streets and better sewage systems), not to vaccines. The World Health Organization promotes mass vaccination, but knowing these facts states, " The best vaccine against common infectious diseases is an adequate diet " – fortified, one might add, with vitamin A. Since the measles vaccine came into widespread use in this country this disease has virtually disappeared, and it has prevented 100 deaths a year. But now, instead, several thousand normally developing children become autistic after receiving their MMR shot. Termed " regressive autism, " it accounts for about 30 percent of the 10,000 to 20,000 children who are diagnosed with autism in this country each year. To put to rest concerns that MMR vaccination might cause autism (in a small percentage of children), the New England Journal of Medicine, in 2002, published a population-based study from Denmark, where its authors concluded, " This study provides strong evidence against the hypothesis that MMR vaccination causes autism. " The NEJM did not disclose that the " Statens Serum Institut, " where three of the authors work, is a for-profit vaccine manufacturer, Denmark's largest, or that four other authors have financial ties to this company. Only one of the eight authors is not associated with this institute, and the CDC employs him. The study compares the prevalence of autism in 440,000 MMR vaccinated and 97,000 unvaccinated children in Denmark born in the 1990s. A statistical slight-of-hand in age adjustment makes the study show no causal effect; but when unmasked and reformatted, the data actually shows a statistically significant association between MMR vaccine and autism (as Carol Stott and her coauthors make clear in " MMR and Autism in Perspective: the Denmark Story, " in the Fall 2004 Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons, posted online <http://www.jpands.org/vol9no3/stott.pdf> ). Pediatrics and the Journal of the American Medical Association also have published studies like this supporting U.S. vaccine policy, written by authors with similar, undisclosed conflicts of interest <http://www.safeminds.org/pressroom/press_releases/20040518_AutismAuthor\ sNetwork.pdf> . Looking elsewhere, however, one comes across a number of disquieting facts about vaccines. Investigators have found, for example, live measles virus in the cerebral spinal fluid <http://www.jpands.org/vol9no2/bradstreet.pdf> in children who become autistic after MMR vaccination. Antibodies to measles virus are elevated in children with autism but not in normal kids, suggesting that virus-induced autoimmunity <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & do\ pt=Abstract & list_uids=12849883> may play a causal role. A study published in Neurology this year implicates hepatitis B vaccine as a causative factor in multiple sclerosis <http://www.neurology.org/cgi/content/abstract/63/5/838> . A communitarian ethic increasingly governs health care in the U.S. It places a greater value on the health of the community, on society as a whole, than on the health of particular individuals. Public health officials have put together a vaccination schedule designed to eliminate infectious diseases to which the population is prey. These officials recognize that these vaccines will harm a small percentage of (genetically susceptible) individuals, but it is for the common good. The communitarian code posits that it is morally acceptable, if necessary, to sacrifice a few for the good of the many. Or as one observer more bluntly puts it, " Individual sheep can be sheared and slaughtered if it is for the welfare of their flock. " In this framework, health care providers become agents of the state charged with injecting vaccines into people that the central planners deem necessary. Physicians who remain true to their Hippocratic Oath and place the interests of their patient above that of the herd are considered to be out of step with the times, if not an anachronism. Like central planners everywhere, the CDC's Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) promulgates a self-serving, one-size-fits-all vaccine policy. Members of this committee have ties to vaccine makers, such that the CDC must grant them waivers from statutory conflict of interest rules. Even so, and with little evidence to show that it is safe to subject young children to the ACIP's crowded immunization schedule, states nevertheless dutifully make its vaccine recommendations compulsory. All 50 states require children to be immunized against measles <http://www.immunize.org/laws/dtp02b.pdf> , diphtheria <http://www.immunize.org/laws/dtp02b.pdf> , Hemophilus influenzae type b <http://www.immunize.org/laws/hib02.pdf> , polio <http://www.immunize.org/laws/polio02a.pdf> , and rubella <http://www.immunize.org/laws/mmr02a.pdf> in order to enroll in day care and/or public school. Forty-nine states also require vaccination against tetanus <http://www.immunize.org/laws/dtp02b.pdf> ; 47, against hepatitis B <http://www.immunize.org/laws/hepbdcmap.pdf> and mumps <http://www.immunize.org/laws/mmr02a.pdf> ; and 43 states now require vaccination against chickenpox <http://www.immunize.org/laws/varimap.pdf> . In order to shield themselves from any liability for making vaccinations compulsory, all states provide a medical exemption and 47, a religious exemption. Nineteen states allow a philosophical exemption. Some require only a letter from a parent and others, from a physician or church leader. (To see the exemptions allowed in your state, their wording and requirements, click here <http://www.909shot.com/state-site/state-exemptions.htm> .) Parents, of course, can refuse vaccination; but if they want to enroll their child in public school they will need to obtain one of these exemptions. Doctors who conclude that the risks of the government's immunization schedule outweigh its benefits are placed in a difficult position. If they counsel parents not to have their children follow it, health care plans, which track vaccine compliance as a measure of " quality, " will find them wanting. And if their patient should contract and develop complications from the disease the vaccine would have prevented they may find themselves confronting a lawsuit. If a child becomes autistic following a vaccination, however, the doctor is protected from any liability because the government requires it and the child's parents, if they had chosen to do so, could have obtained an exemption. (Anti-vaccine advocates call developing autism, asthma, and Type I diabetes after vaccinations " vaccination roulette. " ) Parents should have the freedom to select whatever vaccination schedule they want their children to follow, especially since health care providers and the government (except via its Vaccine Injury Compensation Program) cannot be held accountable for any adverse outcomes that might occur. But if parents elect to not follow the CDC's immunization schedule, delaying some vaccinations, refusing others, or avoiding them altogether, then they must accept the risk that their child might contract the disease that the vaccine against it most likely would have prevented. One consideration, which vaccine proponents do not address, is this: Could contracting childhood diseases like measles, mumps, rubella, and chickenpox play a constructive role in the maturation of a person's immune system? Or, to put it another way, does removing natural infection from human experience have any adverse consequences? Our species' immune system – a one-trillion-cell army that patrols our (100-trillion-cell) body – serves two main purposes. It destroys foreign invaders – viruses, bacteria, and other pathogens. And it destroys aberrant cells in the body that run amuck and cause cancer. Behind the barricades of skin and mucosa, our innate immune system (composed of phagocytes, natural killer cells, and the 20-protein complement system), which all animals have, is the body's first line of defense. It reacts to invaders lightening fast and indiscriminately, but it is not very good at eliminating viruses and cancerous cells. Vertebrates have evolved a second line of defense – the adaptive immune system. It targets specific viruses and bacteria and has better artillery for eliminating cancerous cells. This system matures during childhood, and it has a cellular (Th1) and humoral (Th2) component (Th = helper T cell). The viruses that cause measles, mumps, and chickenpox have infected countless generations of humans, akin to a rite of passage for each member of our species. Contracting these diseases strengthens both parts of the adaptive immune system (Th1 and Th2 ). Mothers who have had measles, mumps, and chickenpox transfer antibodies against them to their babies in utero, which protect them during the first year of life from contracting these infections. Vaccinations do not have the same effect on the immune system as naturally acquired diseases do. They stimulate predominantly the Th2 part of this system and not Th1. (Over-stimulation of Th2 causes autoimmune diseases.) The cellular Th1 side thwarts cancer, and if it does not become fully developed in childhood a person can be more prone to have cancer as an adult. Women who had mumps during childhood, for example, are found to be less likely to have ovarian cancer than women who did not have this infection. (This study was published in Cancer.) Could the fact that cancer has become a leading cause of death in children be a result of vaccinations? Only a randomized controlled trial can conclusively answer this question With rare exception, a well-nourished child who contracts measles will recover smoothly from the infection. Fifty years ago almost all children in the U.S. had measles. And after contracting this disease, one has life-long immunity to it. The protection provided by vaccination is temporary. Adults who contract measles (when the protective effects of the vaccine wears off) are much more likely to have neurological, testicular, and ovarian complications. Likewise, rubella is a benign disease in children, but if a woman acquires it during pregnancy fetal malformations may develop. One can argue, heretical as such an argument may be, that it would be better to let children have measles, at an age when the infection helps the adaptive immune system mature in a balanced Th1/Th2 fashion and complications from this disease are minimal, rather than vaccinate them against this disease (especially considering the risks of vaccination). Pertussis and Diphtheria are a different matter. These diseases are more virulent. Children who contract whooping cough (pertussis) can be incapacitated for more than a month. Polio can be devastating in susceptible individuals. And no one wants to get tetanus (lockjaw). A user-friendly vaccination schedule would include vaccines against these diseases. Whatever vaccination schedule one chooses, mothers should breast-feed their child for as long as possible – a year or more. Failing that, add Omega-3 fatty acids, especially DHA (docosahexanoic acid), to the child's formula. In summary, this is a vaccination schedule that I would recommend: 1. No vaccinations until a child is two years old. 2. No vaccines that contain thimerosal (mercury). 3. No live virus vaccines (except for smallpox, should it recur). 4. These vaccines, to be given one at a time, every six months, beginning at age 2: 1. Pertussis (acellular, not whole cell) 2. Diphtheria 3. Tetanus 4. Polio (the Salk vaccine, cultured in human cells) American children are the most highly vaccinated kids in the world. This schedule is an alternative to the one that rules our " vaccine nation <http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/9941/cotts.php> " (as the Village Voice terms it). In contrast to the CDC's immunization schedule, it is user-friendly. December 10, 2004 (send him mail <mailto:dwm@...%20> ) is a cardiac surgeon and Professor of Surgery at the University of Washington in Seattle and a member of Doctors for Disaster Preparedness <http://www.oism.org/ddp/> and writes articles on a variety of subjects for LewRockwell.com, including bioterrorism. His web site is www.donaldmiller.com <http://www.donaldmiller.com/> . Copyright © 2004 LewRockwell.com > > > Don't know if vaccines are to blame or > > not, but the > > obvious response to the just released " difinitive " > > study dismissing a > > link is obvious. The basis of the study is that > > while there has been > > a significant decrease in thimerosal containing > > vaccines being give > > to children, there has been a massive increase in > > the number of > > children diagnosed with autism. > > > > > > Who says the damage is only being caused by > > vaccinations being > > given to children who manifest ASD symptoms. Perhaps > > the answer is to > > be found in looking at the genetic damage done to > > the children's > > parents who were given these vacinations. > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chef Amy > > > Reel Thyme Cooking, LLC > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all > > with Yahoo! Mobile. > > Try it now. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________\ ____________ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 The only thing, though. Pertussis is most deadly to those under 12 months old. I would question why it would be needed to start at 24 mos. I'm not saying I would fully recommend it to an 8 wk old, but I can see the logic in giving it at that age; I do not, however, see the logic in giving an 8 wk old a tetanus shot. Newborn babies can sometimes contract it, by 8 wks old they either would have had it or be out of danger. I would also consider polio as optional. > > > Please do not get me wrong - yes, I do believe in certain vaccines. I > do, however, believe that in our money-driven society where big business > has entirely too much power...that maybe we are going over board. This > is not far-fetched. > > Read below - I found this article to be very imformative. I certainly > respect people's opinions on the other side of the fence. I am very > well read on these topics. And I just don't feel right about the > current state of afairs... > > Jessie > > --------------------------------------- > > In summary, this is a vaccination schedule that I would recommend: > > > 1. No vaccinations until a child is two years old. 2. No vaccines > that contain thimerosal (mercury). 3. No live virus vaccines (except > for smallpox, should it recur). 4. These vaccines, to be given one > at a time, every six months, beginning at age 2: > 1. Pertussis (acellular, not whole cell) 2. Diphtheria 3. > Tetanus 4. Polio (the Salk vaccine, cultured in human cells) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 The only thing, though. Pertussis is most deadly to those under 12 months old. I would question why it would be needed to start at 24 mos. I'm not saying I would fully recommend it to an 8 wk old, but I can see the logic in giving it at that age; I do not, however, see the logic in giving an 8 wk old a tetanus shot. Newborn babies can sometimes contract it, by 8 wks old they either would have had it or be out of danger. I would also consider polio as optional. > > > Please do not get me wrong - yes, I do believe in certain vaccines. I > do, however, believe that in our money-driven society where big business > has entirely too much power...that maybe we are going over board. This > is not far-fetched. > > Read below - I found this article to be very imformative. I certainly > respect people's opinions on the other side of the fence. I am very > well read on these topics. And I just don't feel right about the > current state of afairs... > > Jessie > > --------------------------------------- > > In summary, this is a vaccination schedule that I would recommend: > > > 1. No vaccinations until a child is two years old. 2. No vaccines > that contain thimerosal (mercury). 3. No live virus vaccines (except > for smallpox, should it recur). 4. These vaccines, to be given one > at a time, every six months, beginning at age 2: > 1. Pertussis (acellular, not whole cell) 2. Diphtheria 3. > Tetanus 4. Polio (the Salk vaccine, cultured in human cells) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 The only thing, though. Pertussis is most deadly to those under 12 months old. I would question why it would be needed to start at 24 mos. I'm not saying I would fully recommend it to an 8 wk old, but I can see the logic in giving it at that age; I do not, however, see the logic in giving an 8 wk old a tetanus shot. Newborn babies can sometimes contract it, by 8 wks old they either would have had it or be out of danger. I would also consider polio as optional. > > > Please do not get me wrong - yes, I do believe in certain vaccines. I > do, however, believe that in our money-driven society where big business > has entirely too much power...that maybe we are going over board. This > is not far-fetched. > > Read below - I found this article to be very imformative. I certainly > respect people's opinions on the other side of the fence. I am very > well read on these topics. And I just don't feel right about the > current state of afairs... > > Jessie > > --------------------------------------- > > In summary, this is a vaccination schedule that I would recommend: > > > 1. No vaccinations until a child is two years old. 2. No vaccines > that contain thimerosal (mercury). 3. No live virus vaccines (except > for smallpox, should it recur). 4. These vaccines, to be given one > at a time, every six months, beginning at age 2: > 1. Pertussis (acellular, not whole cell) 2. Diphtheria 3. > Tetanus 4. Polio (the Salk vaccine, cultured in human cells) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 BOY would I love that! I am obsessed with autism - it is my religion these days. I am so luck to have found an amazing job in autism research at a major university. I would give those politicians an ear-full!! > > > > Don't know if vaccines are to blame or > > > not, but the > > > obvious response to the just released " difinitive " > > > study dismissing a > > > link is obvious. The basis of the study is that > > > while there has been > > > a significant decrease in thimerosal containing > > > vaccines being give > > > to children, there has been a massive increase in > > > the number of > > > children diagnosed with autism. > > > > > > > > Who says the damage is only being caused by > > > vaccinations being > > > given to children who manifest ASD symptoms. Perhaps > > > the answer is to > > > be found in looking at the genetic damage done to > > > the children's > > > parents who were given these vacinations. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chef Amy > > > > Reel Thyme Cooking, LLC > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all > > > with Yahoo! Mobile. > > > Try it now. > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________\ > ____________ > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 polio is of the one we are not getting for that reason at all and in the last 40 or so years the only ones who got it , got it directly from that vaccine years back. they have been to change it now but for not see this as a threat for the grand baby at this time. Sondra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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