Guest guest Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 I have a question, my son has some Asperger traits and I am taking him for a evaluation but question is this ... my son walked early, talked early, met all developmental goals as a baby and toddler, was a happy toddler and a happy baby unil OCD reared its head at about age 8 or 9. Can he still have aspergers if he met all hose developmental goals? Also he can read facile expressions he knows when someones happy , sad or mad. The asperger traits he does have is Sensitivity to light, sound, expressing interest in a few areas that all he talks about is tthat, one sided conversation, doesnt know when someone is being sarcastic or joking, hypersensiive and a very visual learner. also doesnt know how to act in social situations told me he has to go over in his head what to say to people before he says it. So do you have to have all the sympoms to be Asperger or could i be somehing else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Good questions. So far as sarcasm, reading others -- I'll point out that could read me well with those, brothers. But not others. While some may not be able to tell with family members. He would always be the first of my 3 sons to ask if I was okay if something happened. So people vary. And that can be true in the other areas too. LOL, that doesn't help answer does it? With Aspergers, they may have normal development, you may start noticing little things around age 3 or after. Was he somewhat literal about things, what people said? Did he have trouble following directions given to him, that other people generally wouldn't? Did it seem you had to explain a lot of things to him that, again, generally other people just " get " ? Just some quick thoughts. That's great that he is going over things in his head first, just what he should do! Sort of role playing, which is what helps many on the spectrum. When a person doesn't fit all the criteria to get an " autism " or an Aspergers diagnosis, they presently can fall under the PDD label, which means they have some traits but don't fit the criteria. So may get a PDD-NOS diagnosis. (PDD is Pervasive Developmental Disorder) Autism is a PDD disorder. http://www.med.umich.edu/yourchild/topics/autism.htm http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/pdd/pdd.htm Hope this helps, and keep us updated! > > I have a question, my son has some Asperger traits and I am taking him for a evaluation but question is this ... my son walked early, talked early, met all developmental goals as a baby and toddler, was a happy toddler and a happy baby unil OCD reared its head at about age 8 or 9. Can he still have aspergers if he met all hose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 My 8yr old daughter with Asperger's can easily pick out most basic emotions (happy, sad, excited, etc) on testing cards that display those emotions. But in context, it just goes right over her head. She can generally tell if people are happy or sad. Most Aspies can. But more complex emotions get more difficult. They lack that theory of mind.. Being able to tell what the other person is thinking or feeling.  I am a " mental rehearser " . I cannot make it through a conversation unless I rehearse it in my mind beforehand. If someone I don't know catches me off guard (at the grocery store, etc.) and says something to me, I usually cannot respond because it takes too long for me to process what the person said, what their intentions were, if it was sarcasm, a joke, or just a comment, etc. So I usually just smile and don't say anything. Then about 10 minutes later it's all fully processed and I think of something that I could have said... I do better with people I am familiar with like my kids and my husband and my mother, etc. But if I am going to any sort of social event, then I rehearse all the possible conversations in my mind and then try to stay out of grabbing range for conversations.. One problem I have more than anything else is regulating my facial expressions. I cannot make my facial expressions match my emotions. I usually have a plain expression no matter how I feel.  I came to this realization after years of people telling me to smile and telling me I look sad.. Or asking me " Are you okay? " when I felt just fine and happy. I always hated people telling me to " cheer up " when I already felt cheery!  I think this problem applies to girl Aspies more than boy Aspies though (from what I have read).  All my girls with Asperger's hit all their developmental milestones on time as babies/toddlers. They walked early (between 9 & 12 months for all three girls), spoke early, read early, etc.. The only thing I noticed as toddlers was sensory issues, picky eating, precocious reading, excellent memories, excellent verbal skills, etc.. This is all common with Aspies. The social difficulties start to really shine around age 8 or 9. That's when most Aspies begin to get diagnosed. However, my 8yr old was diagnosed when she was 5 because she had quite a few significant symptoms from a very early age. She verges on classic high-functioning autism and Asperger's. When she was evaluated, her score just barely missed the cut off for autism. Plus she had normal speech development as a toddler. But her behavior is very autistic at times.. she can appear normal at other times though.. She does feel embarrassment and knows she is different and tries hard to not be different when she is in a social situation.. but no matter how hard she tries, she just can't be like the other kids.  Misty >To: >Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 5:07 PM >Subject: aspergers question > > > >I have a question, my son has some Asperger traits and I am taking him for a evaluation but question is this ... my son walked early, talked early, met all developmental goals as a baby and toddler, was a happy toddler and a happy baby unil OCD reared its head at about age 8 or 9. Can he still have aspergers if he met all hose developmental goals? Also he can read facile expressions he knows when someones happy , sad or mad. The asperger traits he does have is Sensitivity to light, sound, expressing interest in a few areas that all he talks about is tthat, one sided conversation, doesnt know when someone is being sarcastic or joking, hypersensiive and a very visual learner. also doesnt know how to act in social situations told me he has to go over in his head what to say to people before he says it. So do you have to have all the sympoms to be Asperger or could i be somehing else > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 MOST KIDS ARE DX'D AROUND AGE 8 BECAUSE YOU NEED AN IQ TEST AS PART OF TE DX-NOT USUALLY EXCEPTED TILL AGE 8-- NOT BECAUS ISSUES START THEN--MOST ASPIES HAVE A DEGREE OF OICD SO THAT LABEL CAN BE GIVEN P WHEN IT IS REPLACED, NOT IN ADDITION TO. MOST ALSO HAVE NONVERBAL LEARNING DISABILITIES. AGAIN PART OF, NOT IN ADDITION TOO. JOY CT > My 8yr old daughter with Asperger's can easily pick out most basic emotions (happy, sad, excited, etc) on testing cards that display those emotions. But in context, it just goes right over her head. She can generally tell if people are happy or sad. Most Aspies can. But more complex emotions get more difficult. They lack that theory of mind.. Being able to tell what the other person is thinking or feeling. > > I am a " mental rehearser " . I cannot make it through a conversation unless I rehearse it in my mind beforehand. If someone I don't know catches me off guard (at the grocery store, etc.) and says something to me, I usually cannot respond because it takes too long for me to process what the person said, what their intentions were, if it was sarcasm, a joke, or just a comment, etc. So I usually just smile and don't say anything. Then about 10 minutes later it's all fully processed and I think of something that I could have said... I do better with people I am familiar with like my kids and my husband and my mother, etc. But if I am going to any sort of social event, then I rehearse all the possible conversations in my mind and then try to stay out of grabbing range for conversations.. One problem I have more than anything else is regulating my facial expressions. I cannot make my facial expressions match my emotions. I usually have a plain > expression no matter how I feel. I came to this realization after years of people telling me to smile and telling me I look sad.. Or asking me " Are you okay? " when I felt just fine and happy. I always hated people telling me to " cheer up " when I already felt cheery! I think this problem applies to girl Aspies more than boy Aspies though (from what I have read). > > All my girls with Asperger's hit all their developmental milestones on time as babies/toddlers. They walked early (between 9 & 12 months for all three girls), spoke early, read early, etc.. The only thing I noticed as toddlers was sensory issues, picky eating, precocious reading, excellent memories, excellent verbal skills, etc.. This is all common with Aspies. The social difficulties start to really shine around age 8 or 9. That's when most Aspies begin to get diagnosed. However, my 8yr old was diagnosed when she was 5 because she had quite a few significant symptoms from a very early age. She verges on classic high-functioning autism and Asperger's. When she was evaluated, her score just barely missed the cut off for autism. Plus she had normal speech development as a toddler. But her behavior is very autistic at times.. she can appear normal at other times though.. She does feel embarrassment and knows she is different and tries > hard to not be different when she is in a social situation.. but no matter how hard she tries, she just can't be like the other kids. > > Misty > > >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 5:07 PM >> Subject: aspergers question >> >> >> >> I have a question, my son has some Asperger traits and I am taking him for a evaluation but question is this ... my son walked early, talked early, met all developmental goals as a baby and toddler, was a happy toddler and a happy baby unil OCD reared its head at about age 8 or 9. Can he still have aspergers if he met all hose developmental goals? Also he can read facile expressions he knows when someones happy , sad or mad. The asperger traits he does have is Sensitivity to light, sound, expressing interest in a few areas that all he talks about is tthat, one sided conversation, doesnt know when someone is being sarcastic or joking, hypersensiive and a very visual learner. also doesnt know how to act in social situations told me he has to go over in his head what to say to people before he says it. So do you have to have all the sympoms to be Asperger or could i be somehing else >> >> >> >> >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Actually, the youngest you can diagnose Asperger's is age 4 or 5.. Not before then because they need that social component. I did not say issues don't start until 8. I just said that's when the social issues really start to emerge in school with bullying, etc... Obviously there are many other components to Asperger's besides social issues. But that is usually the first thing that teachers/parents notice and then they start to look for a diagnosis. Asperger's absolutely can be diagnosed earlier than age 8. My daughter was diagnosed at age 5. You CAN give an IQ test to a 5yr old.  Misty >To: >Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 10:10 PM >Subject: Re: aspergers question > > > >MOST KIDS ARE DX'D AROUND AGE 8 BECAUSE YOU NEED AN IQ TEST AS PART OF TE DX-NOT USUALLY EXCEPTED TILL AGE 8-- NOT BECAUS ISSUES START THEN--MOST ASPIES HAVE A DEGREE OF OICD SO THAT LABEL CAN BE GIVEN P WHEN IT IS REPLACED, NOT IN ADDITION TO. MOST ALSO HAVE NONVERBAL LEARNING DISABILITIES. AGAIN PART OF, NOT IN ADDITION TOO. JOY CT > > >> My 8yr old daughter with Asperger's can easily pick out most basic emotions (happy, sad, excited, etc) on testing cards that display those emotions. But in context, it just goes right over her head. She can generally tell if people are happy or sad. Most Aspies can. But more complex emotions get more difficult. They lack that theory of mind.. Being able to tell what the other person is thinking or feeling. >> >> I am a " mental rehearser " . I cannot make it through a conversation unless I rehearse it in my mind beforehand. If someone I don't know catches me off guard (at the grocery store, etc.) and says something to me, I usually cannot respond because it takes too long for me to process what the person said, what their intentions were, if it was sarcasm, a joke, or just a comment, etc. So I usually just smile and don't say anything. Then about 10 minutes later it's all fully processed and I think of something that I could have said... I do better with people I am familiar with like my kids and my husband and my mother, etc. But if I am going to any sort of social event, then I rehearse all the possible conversations in my mind and then try to stay out of grabbing range for conversations.. One problem I have more than anything else is regulating my facial expressions. I cannot make my facial expressions match my emotions. I usually have a plain >> expression no matter how I feel. I came to this realization after years of people telling me to smile and telling me I look sad.. Or asking me " Are you okay? " when I felt just fine and happy. I always hated people telling me to " cheer up " when I already felt cheery! I think this problem applies to girl Aspies more than boy Aspies though (from what I have read). >> >> All my girls with Asperger's hit all their developmental milestones on time as babies/toddlers. They walked early (between 9 & 12 months for all three girls), spoke early, read early, etc.. The only thing I noticed as toddlers was sensory issues, picky eating, precocious reading, excellent memories, excellent verbal skills, etc.. This is all common with Aspies. The social difficulties start to really shine around age 8 or 9. That's when most Aspies begin to get diagnosed. However, my 8yr old was diagnosed when she was 5 because she had quite a few significant symptoms from a very early age. She verges on classic high-functioning autism and Asperger's. When she was evaluated, her score just barely missed the cut off for autism. Plus she had normal speech development as a toddler. But her behavior is very autistic at times.. she can appear normal at other times though.. She does feel embarrassment and knows she is different and tries >> hard to not be different when she is in a social situation.. but no matter how hard she tries, she just can't be like the other kids. >> >> Misty >> >> >>> To: >>> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 5:07 PM >>> Subject: aspergers question >>> >>> >>> >>> I have a question, my son has some Asperger traits and I am taking him for a evaluation but question is this ... my son walked early, talked early, met all developmental goals as a baby and toddler, was a happy toddler and a happy baby unil OCD reared its head at about age 8 or 9. Can he still have aspergers if he met all hose developmental goals? Also he can read facile expressions he knows when someones happy , sad or mad. The asperger traits he does have is Sensitivity to light, sound, expressing interest in a few areas that all he talks about is tthat, one sided conversation, doesnt know when someone is being sarcastic or joking, hypersensiive and a very visual learner. also doesnt know how to act in social situations told me he has to go over in his head what to say to people before he says it. So do you have to have all the sympoms to be Asperger or could i be somehing else >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Also, Joy, you can have OCD AND Asperger's.. Some psychs will lump the OCD tendencies with the Asperger's symptoms and not give an additional label of OCD. But you definitely can have them both with separate diagnoses. I have two daughters with Asperger's and OCD symptoms who were both evaluated by the same psychologist. One daughter received an additional OCD diagnosis along with her Asperger's because her OCD was a clear and separate disorder from the Asperger's. And even though the other daughter had OCD symptoms, she did not receive the OCD diagnosis (only Asperger's) because the psych said it was part of her Asperger's. But the first daughter had OCD symptoms that went above and beyond anything that would be considered Asperger's.. So it warranted a separate label.  Misty >To: >Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 10:10 PM >Subject: Re: aspergers question > > > >MOST KIDS ARE DX'D AROUND AGE 8 BECAUSE YOU NEED AN IQ TEST AS PART OF TE DX-NOT USUALLY EXCEPTED TILL AGE 8-- NOT BECAUS ISSUES START THEN--MOST ASPIES HAVE A DEGREE OF OICD SO THAT LABEL CAN BE GIVEN P WHEN IT IS REPLACED, NOT IN ADDITION TO. MOST ALSO HAVE NONVERBAL LEARNING DISABILITIES. AGAIN PART OF, NOT IN ADDITION TOO. JOY CT > > >> My 8yr old daughter with Asperger's can easily pick out most basic emotions (happy, sad, excited, etc) on testing cards that display those emotions. But in context, it just goes right over her head. She can generally tell if people are happy or sad. Most Aspies can. But more complex emotions get more difficult. They lack that theory of mind.. Being able to tell what the other person is thinking or feeling. >> >> I am a " mental rehearser " . I cannot make it through a conversation unless I rehearse it in my mind beforehand. If someone I don't know catches me off guard (at the grocery store, etc.) and says something to me, I usually cannot respond because it takes too long for me to process what the person said, what their intentions were, if it was sarcasm, a joke, or just a comment, etc. So I usually just smile and don't say anything. Then about 10 minutes later it's all fully processed and I think of something that I could have said... I do better with people I am familiar with like my kids and my husband and my mother, etc. But if I am going to any sort of social event, then I rehearse all the possible conversations in my mind and then try to stay out of grabbing range for conversations.. One problem I have more than anything else is regulating my facial expressions. I cannot make my facial expressions match my emotions. I usually have a plain >> expression no matter how I feel. I came to this realization after years of people telling me to smile and telling me I look sad.. Or asking me " Are you okay? " when I felt just fine and happy. I always hated people telling me to " cheer up " when I already felt cheery! I think this problem applies to girl Aspies more than boy Aspies though (from what I have read). >> >> All my girls with Asperger's hit all their developmental milestones on time as babies/toddlers. They walked early (between 9 & 12 months for all three girls), spoke early, read early, etc.. The only thing I noticed as toddlers was sensory issues, picky eating, precocious reading, excellent memories, excellent verbal skills, etc.. This is all common with Aspies. The social difficulties start to really shine around age 8 or 9. That's when most Aspies begin to get diagnosed. However, my 8yr old was diagnosed when she was 5 because she had quite a few significant symptoms from a very early age. She verges on classic high-functioning autism and Asperger's. When she was evaluated, her score just barely missed the cut off for autism. Plus she had normal speech development as a toddler. But her behavior is very autistic at times.. she can appear normal at other times though.. She does feel embarrassment and knows she is different and tries >> hard to not be different when she is in a social situation.. but no matter how hard she tries, she just can't be like the other kids. >> >> Misty >> >> >>> To: >>> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 5:07 PM >>> Subject: aspergers question >>> >>> >>> >>> I have a question, my son has some Asperger traits and I am taking him for a evaluation but question is this ... my son walked early, talked early, met all developmental goals as a baby and toddler, was a happy toddler and a happy baby unil OCD reared its head at about age 8 or 9. Can he still have aspergers if he met all hose developmental goals? Also he can read facile expressions he knows when someones happy , sad or mad. The asperger traits he does have is Sensitivity to light, sound, expressing interest in a few areas that all he talks about is tthat, one sided conversation, doesnt know when someone is being sarcastic or joking, hypersensiive and a very visual learner. also doesnt know how to act in social situations told me he has to go over in his head what to say to people before he says it. So do you have to have all the sympoms to be Asperger or could i be somehing else >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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