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Hi Debbie,

hope all things have settled and easier with schools back,we have had nearly a

month off and it has been hard, i know my son who is 13 is always more anxious

and finds new OCDs and rituals and WORRIES during the holidays, or whenever any

routine changes, it makes life v difficult doesnt

it...........................was interesting when your son was worried about you

going to die, this is one of my sons biggest worries,obsessions, that I will die

or someone else in the family, i am on my own with him and it gets very intense,

and there is no-one else to take this pressure off, i worry so much for him that

he will always be plagued with these thoughts and not be able to enjoy his

life,we lost his dad when he was young,and his grandfather recently and this

all started then, I have been in hospital myself and this has caused the anxiety

to go through the roof, it is hard to do anything new or even travel as the last

time on a [plane he was screaming that we were all going to die and the plane

was going to crash........I am cringing right now thinking about it because do

you know no-one even came to help me calm him down, not even the airline

staff,people only stared then looked away, this makes him aggressive and start

to shout........I could go on and on about how hard it is, but as your sons

mother you know......more than anyone else, and usually we are the only ones

that can help get them back and calmed down when they are in these meltdowns,

so just want to finish by saying I know and all the other parents here know how

hard it is and how heartbreaking it is to have a child who suffers from this

awful disorder, and we are all doing the best we can to help our children x

>

> Right before Christmas I posted a huge vent about my almost 13 year old son

who suffers from anxiety/OCD and Aspergers. With the kids being home from

school and the hustle & bustle of the holidays, I did not get a chance to really

sit down and " digest " the comments from all of you. I want to take this time

now to thank all of you who responded and pretty much validated my feelings at

the time. I do know I love my son, but it is very hard to like him some (most)

days lately. It was a long week off he had from school and then when it was

time to return on Tuesday, I had him home and to the doctor with a double ear

infection! I will admit, I was bummed he was home that day and was glad he went

back Wednesday. I was concerned about whether he would go Wednesday because his

new anxiety is he is afraid to not be with my husband or myself because he

thinks we are going to die! I asked him why he thought we were going to die and

his response was " because you Alzheimers! " Neither my husband or myself have

Alzheimers (or any other disease), BUT my mother is in the final stages of it

and the kids know she won't be with us for any great length of time.....I

actually didn't think we would have her with us this past Christmas, but we did.

If we do leave him at home with his siblings and he gets thinking about it, his

anxiety increases and then takes it out on his sister! And being 15, she is too

stubborn to just walk away and go into her room....instead she will just stay in

the spot she is in and almost edges him on! So now we are back to not having

them home alone together too much for awhile...again! I am hoping that now that

the holidays are over, he will settle back down. I will admit he has been a bit

more tolerable this week than last. We had a horrible day one day last week

that resulted in my oldest son, who is 20 and away at college, yelling " I can't

take this anymore how he treats you; I am not coming home in the summer; I do

not want to go to Disney World, take my name off the reservations " (we are

going to Disney for 2 weeks in August....somewhat of Christmas present to the

family). I know my son was frustrated, but reactions like that do NOT

help....in fact it makes it worse for me, not them. My husband will do the same

thing....get all pissy at our son and says stupid things (I think them, don't

say them...usually! LOL!) and it only makes it harder on me because then I am

the one settling him down. They just don't get it no matter how many times I

tell them!

>

> Oh well, I am rambling here....sorry! I was really only intending on saying

my thank you!

> So again, thank you for those who had comforting words...they did help.

>

> I hope everyone has a wonderful 2012 filled with less anxiety and other

" issues " !!

>

> Debbie

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Hi Debbie, hope things are better once back in the routine of school days. I

probably asked this earlier, is he getting any services - at school or elsewhere

- for his Aspergers? Maybe I'm thinking of another, but was thinking your son

also had this.

Oh, so many children have that fear when their parents go out. I know some get

a LOT of phone calls from their child!

So sorry about your mother! My mom, who has passed away, had dementia, got

guardianship over her. She was in a nursing home her last year.

>

> Right before Christmas I posted a huge vent about my almost 13 year old son

who suffers from anxiety/OCD and Aspergers. With the kids being home from

school and the hustle & bustle of the holidays, I did not get a chance to really

sit down and " digest " the comments from all of you. I want to take this time

now to thank all of you who responded and pretty much validated my feelings at

the time. I do know I love my son, but it is very hard to like him some (most)

days

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Hi We had a HORRENDOUS night with him Friday night....a nearly 3 hour

anxiety episode that left my son, my husband and I drained and unfortunately

words were said that were hurtful on all parties...so damn hard. Fortunately our

3 other children were not at home at the time, but unfortunately it started with

a confrontation he had with my daughter, which ended with me dropping her off to

cheerlead at a basketball game VERY upset. It went downhill from there.

He does have an IEP. He is in a classroom part of the time (most) that is a

12:1:1. He does get " counseling " from different teachers. He also sees a

therapist on the outside, but to be perfectly honest, I'm not sure what they

talk about!! tells me he falls asleep and the therapist checks his

email...he has an appt. this week and I am going to be asking some questions!

We tried getting some services through our local ARC, they have a wonderful new

autism center, however, we were denied because is not " disabled " enough!

So we are left out in the cold because you can't use the autism center's

programs without being ok'd!! The school counselor is looking into that for us

now. It's crazy. Yes, his Aspergers is relatively mild compared to others, but

he still has it!!

On an up note, my husband and I went out Saturday evening to see another son in

a concert-type event and stayed home. I told him I could call him when

we got there so he knew we arrived ok, but he said no, I didn't have to do that!

And there were no problems between him and his sister. My oldest son who is 20

was home and and my daughter were not even in the same room all night and

he was asleep by 7:45...we left at 7:10, so all those factors helped make it a

good evening!! I would've NEVER let and Katelyn be home alone with my

oldest being there..especially not after Friday night's scene!

Debbie

> >

> > Right before Christmas I posted a huge vent about my almost 13 year old son

who suffers from anxiety/OCD and Aspergers. With the kids being home from

school and the hustle & bustle of the holidays, I did not get a chance to really

sit down and " digest " the comments from all of you. I want to take this time

now to thank all of you who responded and pretty much validated my feelings at

the time. I do know I love my son, but it is very hard to like him some (most)

days

>

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This new worry of us dying seems to come and go. I'm sure it all has to do with

my Mom's condition....I feel he is going to have a rough time when she finally

does pass away. We keep telling him that it will be ok when she dies because

she would not want to be living how she is and when she is gone, she will be his

guardian angel. My problem is I don't know how to answer him when he says my

husband and I are going to die. I don't want to say " no, we are not " because,

God forbid, what if something did happen to one of us and we got into an

accident and one or both of us die.....he will be scarred for life!

Wouldn't it be wonderful if there was a magic pill our kids took just once and

made everything go away and they could lead happy, healthy, " normal " lives?!!

Debbie

> >

> > Right before Christmas I posted a huge vent about my almost 13 year old son

who suffers from anxiety/OCD and Aspergers. With the kids being home from

school and the hustle & bustle of the holidays, I did not get a chance to really

sit down and " digest " the comments from all of you. I want to take this time

now to thank all of you who responded and pretty much validated my feelings at

the time. I do know I love my son, but it is very hard to like him some (most)

days lately. It was a long week off he had from school and then when it was

time to return on Tuesday, I had him home and to the doctor with a double ear

infection! I will admit, I was bummed he was home that day and was glad he went

back Wednesday. I was concerned about whether he would go Wednesday because his

new anxiety is he is afraid to not be with my husband or myself because he

thinks we are going to die! I asked him why he thought we were going to die and

his response was " because you Alzheimers! " Neither my husband or myself have

Alzheimers (or any other disease), BUT my mother is in the final stages of it

and the kids know she won't be with us for any great length of time.....I

actually didn't think we would have her with us this past Christmas, but we did.

If we do leave him at home with his siblings and he gets thinking about it, his

anxiety increases and then takes it out on his sister! And being 15, she is too

stubborn to just walk away and go into her room....instead she will just stay in

the spot she is in and almost edges him on! So now we are back to not having

them home alone together too much for awhile...again! I am hoping that now that

the holidays are over, he will settle back down. I will admit he has been a bit

more tolerable this week than last. We had a horrible day one day last week

that resulted in my oldest son, who is 20 and away at college, yelling " I can't

take this anymore how he treats you; I am not coming home in the summer; I do

not want to go to Disney World, take my name off the reservations " (we are

going to Disney for 2 weeks in August....somewhat of Christmas present to the

family). I know my son was frustrated, but reactions like that do NOT

help....in fact it makes it worse for me, not them. My husband will do the same

thing....get all pissy at our son and says stupid things (I think them, don't

say them...usually! LOL!) and it only makes it harder on me because then I am

the one settling him down. They just don't get it no matter how many times I

tell them!

> >

> > Oh well, I am rambling here....sorry! I was really only intending on

saying my thank you!

> > So again, thank you for those who had comforting words...they did help.

> >

> > I hope everyone has a wonderful 2012 filled with less anxiety and other

" issues " !!

> >

> > Debbie

> >

>

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Debbie,

I saw your post and wanted to reply...my DD is afraid of dying and death, but

not us, just herself! She has never mentioned being afraid we will die; her

fear only seems to center around herself. This ties in to her seeming inability

to empathize with those around her; she is very self-focused; it's almost as if

she spends so much energy worrying about herself dying from her fear of the

moment, she has no room for thoughts of anyone else.

I can see your 20-year old's point in a reverse way, because my 14 yr old son

hopes my DD will move out soon after she graduates next year. However, she'll

probably have to live with us during college anyway, but I'm thinking maybe

she'll be so busy with school and a job possibly, there won't be time for her to

worry or she will only be at home for brief periods of time. I think maybe my

sanity will have a chance when they BOTH are moved out!

Debbie (too)

> > >

> > > Right before Christmas I posted a huge vent about my almost 13 year old

son who suffers from anxiety/OCD and Aspergers. With the kids being home from

school and the hustle & bustle of the holidays, I did not get a chance to really

sit down and " digest " the comments from all of you. I want to take this time

now to thank all of you who responded and pretty much validated my feelings at

the time. I do know I love my son, but it is very hard to like him some (most)

days lately. It was a long week off he had from school and then when it was

time to return on Tuesday, I had him home and to the doctor with a double ear

infection! I will admit, I was bummed he was home that day and was glad he went

back Wednesday. I was concerned about whether he would go Wednesday because his

new anxiety is he is afraid to not be with my husband or myself because he

thinks we are going to die! I asked him why he thought we were going to die and

his response was " because you Alzheimers! " Neither my husband or myself have

Alzheimers (or any other disease), BUT my mother is in the final stages of it

and the kids know she won't be with us for any great length of time.....I

actually didn't think we would have her with us this past Christmas, but we did.

If we do leave him at home with his siblings and he gets thinking about it, his

anxiety increases and then takes it out on his sister! And being 15, she is too

stubborn to just walk away and go into her room....instead she will just stay in

the spot she is in and almost edges him on! So now we are back to not having

them home alone together too much for awhile...again! I am hoping that now that

the holidays are over, he will settle back down. I will admit he has been a bit

more tolerable this week than last. We had a horrible day one day last week

that resulted in my oldest son, who is 20 and away at college, yelling " I can't

take this anymore how he treats you; I am not coming home in the summer; I do

not want to go to Disney World, take my name off the reservations " (we are

going to Disney for 2 weeks in August....somewhat of Christmas present to the

family). I know my son was frustrated, but reactions like that do NOT

help....in fact it makes it worse for me, not them. My husband will do the same

thing....get all pissy at our son and says stupid things (I think them, don't

say them...usually! LOL!) and it only makes it harder on me because then I am

the one settling him down. They just don't get it no matter how many times I

tell them!

> > >

> > > Oh well, I am rambling here....sorry! I was really only intending on

saying my thank you!

> > > So again, thank you for those who had comforting words...they did help.

> > >

> > > I hope everyone has a wonderful 2012 filled with less anxiety and other

" issues " !!

> > >

> > > Debbie

> > >

> >

>

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still denies it, but years ago he would not step in the room if I was

watching anything to do with " death " - Touched by an Angel was a fav TV show,

he'd walk in and see it on and turn around. Another time I was watching a

documentary type on angels, same thing. Some other times too. But he'll say he

didn't, or that didn't have anything to do with him leaving. I'd see the look

on his face though!

>

> When my kids talk about us, or them, dying, I dont say yes and dont say no. 

I say " We are healthy and do (mention healthy things we do like go to the doc

for check ups, get exercise, etc) to stay healthy, so we will be around for

awhile! "   That usually helps calm any worries.

>  

> A while ago we did have a long talk about us and them dying, and we did talk

about the " what ifs " .  We also talked about how unlikely it would be that the

entire family would die and leave just my one OCDer alone.  Confronting these

fears have helped.  But my OCDer (10 yrs old) wont say the word " die " and if

she is singing a song (she loves to sing) that says anything like die, dead,

kill, etc, she will not sing those words.

> Sharon

>

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My dd is the same way.  She will look through things I have DVRed and if it has

kill, die, murder, etc (I like horror movies, mysteries, etc) in the name or

description, she asks me why I have to record that.

Sharon

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still denies it, but years ago he would not step in the room if I was

watching anything to do with " death " - Touched by an Angel was a fav TV show,

he'd walk in and see it on and turn around. Another time I was watching a

documentary type on angels, same thing. Some other times too. But he'll say he

didn't, or that didn't have anything to do with him leaving. I'd see the look

on his face though!

>

> When my kids talk about us, or them, dying, I dont say yes and dont say

no.  I say " We are healthy and do (mention healthy things we do like go to

the doc for check ups, get exercise, etc) to stay healthy, so we will be around

for awhile! "   That usually helps calm any worries.

>  

> A while ago we did have a long talk about us and them dying, and we did talk

about the " what ifs " .  We also talked about how unlikely it would be that the

entire family would die and leave just my one OCDer alone.  Confronting these

fears have helped.  But my OCDer (10 yrs old) wont say the word " die " and if

she is singing a song (she loves to sing) that says anything like die, dead,

kill, etc, she will not sing those words.

> Sharon

>

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