Re: The OCD/ADHD Combination

[Guest guest]

Don't know that I'm thinking clearly yet today, but I don't know that they have

to know WHY they are doing the compulsion, more it is just working toward NOT

doing it when they feel the need, catch themselves starting to.... So he knows,

has a list, of things he does, just has to work on bossing back in whatever ways

he can when he needs to do them. If you know the triggers, then you can find

times to do OCD " homework " and then trigger the need and work on it.

Quick thoughts,

>

> When I was searching for a therapist for my 7-year-old son, I was told that

it's difficult to treat an ADHD child with OCD using only CBT and not

medication. If your child also has ADHD do you find this to be true?

>

> We just started with a new therapist (not the one who gave me that

information) but I'm noticing that it's difficult for my son to identify why

he's doing the compulsive behavior. If you don't recognize why you're doing it,

isn't it impossible to approach this from a cognitive standpoint?

>

[Guest guest]

Don't know that I'm thinking clearly yet today, but I don't know that they have

to know WHY they are doing the compulsion, more it is just working toward NOT

doing it when they feel the need, catch themselves starting to.... So he knows,

has a list, of things he does, just has to work on bossing back in whatever ways

he can when he needs to do them. If you know the triggers, then you can find

times to do OCD " homework " and then trigger the need and work on it.

Quick thoughts,

>

> When I was searching for a therapist for my 7-year-old son, I was told that

it's difficult to treat an ADHD child with OCD using only CBT and not

medication. If your child also has ADHD do you find this to be true?

>

> We just started with a new therapist (not the one who gave me that

information) but I'm noticing that it's difficult for my son to identify why

he's doing the compulsive behavior. If you don't recognize why you're doing it,

isn't it impossible to approach this from a cognitive standpoint?

>

[Guest guest]

With the " just right " type of OCD, there isn't an anxious thought attached. . It

is more about an urge to have things a certain way. Yet, the ERP still works on

it, helping in stopping the " compulsive act " , so he may respond well without

having to understand the " why " .

How is he responding so far? Are you seeing improvement?

BJ

> >

> > When I was searching for a therapist for my 7-year-old son, I was told that

it's difficult to treat an ADHD child with OCD using only CBT and not

medication. If your child also has ADHD do you find this to be true?

> >

> > We just started with a new therapist (not the one who gave me that

information) but I'm noticing that it's difficult for my son to identify why

he's doing the compulsive behavior. If you don't recognize why you're doing it,

isn't it impossible to approach this from a cognitive standpoint?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

With the " just right " type of OCD, there isn't an anxious thought attached. . It

is more about an urge to have things a certain way. Yet, the ERP still works on

it, helping in stopping the " compulsive act " , so he may respond well without

having to understand the " why " .

How is he responding so far? Are you seeing improvement?

BJ

> >

> > When I was searching for a therapist for my 7-year-old son, I was told that

it's difficult to treat an ADHD child with OCD using only CBT and not

medication. If your child also has ADHD do you find this to be true?

> >

> > We just started with a new therapist (not the one who gave me that

information) but I'm noticing that it's difficult for my son to identify why

he's doing the compulsive behavior. If you don't recognize why you're doing it,

isn't it impossible to approach this from a cognitive standpoint?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

We literally just started with the new therapist and have seen her for only a

couple of sessions. I'm hoping to get some good strategies soon, because so much

of my time is spent trying to keep him calm and not blow up in a rage because

things are not exactly the way he wants them to be. I'm reading The Explosive

Child and thinking that it's going to be challenging to get my son to work on

the problem-solving part because of his ADHD. He was on Intuniv briefly, and it

did seem to control his hyperactivity and rage, but then he got freaked out

about swallowing pills. I keep talking to him about bossing back his OCD and

sometimes it works. He seems to be adding (and discarding) different compulsions

every day, which the therapist says is a good sign because they're not

entrenched into this daily routine yet.

Re: The OCD/ADHD Combination

With the " just right " type of OCD, there isn't an anxious thought attached. . It

is more about an urge to have things a certain way. Yet, the ERP still works on

it, helping in stopping the " compulsive act " , so he may respond well without

having to understand the " why " .

How is he responding so far? Are you seeing improvement?

BJ

> >

> > When I was searching for a therapist for my 7-year-old son, I was told that

it's difficult to treat an ADHD child with OCD using only CBT and not

medication. If your child also has ADHD do you find this to be true?

> >

> > We just started with a new therapist (not the one who gave me that

information) but I'm noticing that it's difficult for my son to identify why

he's doing the compulsive behavior. If you don't recognize why you're doing it,

isn't it impossible to approach this from a cognitive standpoint?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

We literally just started with the new therapist and have seen her for only a

couple of sessions. I'm hoping to get some good strategies soon, because so much

of my time is spent trying to keep him calm and not blow up in a rage because

things are not exactly the way he wants them to be. I'm reading The Explosive

Child and thinking that it's going to be challenging to get my son to work on

the problem-solving part because of his ADHD. He was on Intuniv briefly, and it

did seem to control his hyperactivity and rage, but then he got freaked out

about swallowing pills. I keep talking to him about bossing back his OCD and

sometimes it works. He seems to be adding (and discarding) different compulsions

every day, which the therapist says is a good sign because they're not

entrenched into this daily routine yet.

Re: The OCD/ADHD Combination

With the " just right " type of OCD, there isn't an anxious thought attached. . It

is more about an urge to have things a certain way. Yet, the ERP still works on

it, helping in stopping the " compulsive act " , so he may respond well without

having to understand the " why " .

How is he responding so far? Are you seeing improvement?

BJ

> >

> > When I was searching for a therapist for my 7-year-old son, I was told that

it's difficult to treat an ADHD child with OCD using only CBT and not

medication. If your child also has ADHD do you find this to be true?

> >

> > We just started with a new therapist (not the one who gave me that

information) but I'm noticing that it's difficult for my son to identify why

he's doing the compulsive behavior. If you don't recognize why you're doing it,

isn't it impossible to approach this from a cognitive standpoint?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, when things become entrenched they are much harder to overcome, so that is

good. Starting him young, like he is, is great.

And the fact that he is able to discard some rituals, is a very good sign. :~)

BJ

>

> We literally just started with the new therapist and have seen her for only a

couple of sessions. I'm hoping to get some good strategies soon, because so much

of my time is spent trying to keep him calm and not blow up in a rage because

things are not exactly the way he wants them to be. I'm reading The Explosive

Child and thinking that it's going to be challenging to get my son to work on

the problem-solving part because of his ADHD. He was on Intuniv briefly, and it

did seem to control his hyperactivity and rage, but then he got freaked out

about swallowing pills. I keep talking to him about bossing back his OCD and

sometimes it works. He seems to be adding (and discarding) different compulsions

every day, which the therapist says is a good sign because they're not

entrenched into this daily routine yet.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, when things become entrenched they are much harder to overcome, so that is

good. Starting him young, like he is, is great.

And the fact that he is able to discard some rituals, is a very good sign. :~)

BJ

>

> We literally just started with the new therapist and have seen her for only a

couple of sessions. I'm hoping to get some good strategies soon, because so much

of my time is spent trying to keep him calm and not blow up in a rage because

things are not exactly the way he wants them to be. I'm reading The Explosive

Child and thinking that it's going to be challenging to get my son to work on

the problem-solving part because of his ADHD. He was on Intuniv briefly, and it

did seem to control his hyperactivity and rage, but then he got freaked out

about swallowing pills. I keep talking to him about bossing back his OCD and

sometimes it works. He seems to be adding (and discarding) different compulsions

every day, which the therapist says is a good sign because they're not

entrenched into this daily routine yet.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you. I needed to hear some encouraging words. Happy New Year!

Re: The OCD/ADHD Combination

Yes, when things become entrenched they are much harder to overcome, so that is

good. Starting him young, like he is, is great.

And the fact that he is able to discard some rituals, is a very good sign. :~)

BJ

>

> We literally just started with the new therapist and have seen her for only a

couple of sessions. I'm hoping to get some good strategies soon, because so much

of my time is spent trying to keep him calm and not blow up in a rage because

things are not exactly the way he wants them to be. I'm reading The Explosive

Child and thinking that it's going to be challenging to get my son to work on

the problem-solving part because of his ADHD. He was on Intuniv briefly, and it

did seem to control his hyperactivity and rage, but then he got freaked out

about swallowing pills. I keep talking to him about bossing back his OCD and

sometimes it works. He seems to be adding (and discarding) different compulsions

every day, which the therapist says is a good sign because they're not

entrenched into this daily routine yet.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Happy New Year to you too. :~)

BJ

>

> Thank you. I needed to hear some encouraging words. Happy New Year!

>

>

>

> Re: The OCD/ADHD Combination

>

[Guest guest]

Has anyone tried the vitamin b8 that says it helps with OCD? I know I have seen

people refer to it. It. It sure exactly what it is?? A pill?

Sent from my iPhone

> With the " just right " type of OCD, there isn't an anxious thought attached. .

It is more about an urge to have things a certain way. Yet, the ERP still works

on it, helping in stopping the " compulsive act " , so he may respond well without

having to understand the " why " .

>

> How is he responding so far? Are you seeing improvement?

>

> BJ

>

>

> > >

> > > When I was searching for a therapist for my 7-year-old son, I was told

that it's difficult to treat an ADHD child with OCD using only CBT and not

medication. If your child also has ADHD do you find this to be true?

> > >

> > > We just started with a new therapist (not the one who gave me that

information) but I'm noticing that it's difficult for my son to identify why

he's doing the compulsive behavior. If you don't recognize why you're doing it,

isn't it impossible to approach this from a cognitive standpoint?

> > >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Just wondering how anyone has dealt with anger while trying to do epr. My 7 year

old has some " just right " things she does, but if I even bring it up she gets

angry about it. I can't even get to the point of exposure. What does this mean?

I have let some of her " rules " go because they do not have a huge impact on us.

Sent from my iPhone

> With the " just right " type of OCD, there isn't an anxious thought attached. .

It is more about an urge to have things a certain way. Yet, the ERP still works

on it, helping in stopping the " compulsive act " , so he may respond well without

having to understand the " why " .

>

> How is he responding so far? Are you seeing improvement?

>

> BJ

>

>

> > >

> > > When I was searching for a therapist for my 7-year-old son, I was told

that it's difficult to treat an ADHD child with OCD using only CBT and not

medication. If your child also has ADHD do you find this to be true?

> > >

> > > We just started with a new therapist (not the one who gave me that

information) but I'm noticing that it's difficult for my son to identify why

he's doing the compulsive behavior. If you don't recognize why you're doing it,

isn't it impossible to approach this from a cognitive standpoint?

> > >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think you're referring to inositol powder, considered in the B vitamin family.

Yes, we used it, several other parents have over the years. Some successes and

some with no change, etc. Like the medications, it's just try it and see if it

helps, give it time. There is information on inositol powder in our FILES

section.

Be happy to answer any more questions if it's inositol that you are referring

to.

> > > >

> > > > When I was searching for a therapist for my 7-year-old son, I was told

that it's difficult to treat an ADHD child with OCD using only CBT and not

medication. If your child also has ADHD do you find this to be true?

> > > >

> > > > We just started with a new therapist (not the one who gave me that

information) but I'm noticing that it's difficult for my son to identify why

he's doing the compulsive behavior. If you don't recognize why you're doing it,

isn't it impossible to approach this from a cognitive standpoint?

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think you're referring to inositol powder, considered in the B vitamin family.

Yes, we used it, several other parents have over the years. Some successes and

some with no change, etc. Like the medications, it's just try it and see if it

helps, give it time. There is information on inositol powder in our FILES

section.

Be happy to answer any more questions if it's inositol that you are referring

to.

> > > >

> > > > When I was searching for a therapist for my 7-year-old son, I was told

that it's difficult to treat an ADHD child with OCD using only CBT and not

medication. If your child also has ADHD do you find this to be true?

> > > >

> > > > We just started with a new therapist (not the one who gave me that

information) but I'm noticing that it's difficult for my son to identify why

he's doing the compulsive behavior. If you don't recognize why you're doing it,

isn't it impossible to approach this from a cognitive standpoint?

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes any information on inositol would be great!!

Sent from my iPhone

> I think you're referring to inositol powder, considered in the B vitamin

family. Yes, we used it, several other parents have over the years. Some

successes and some with no change, etc. Like the medications, it's just try it

and see if it helps, give it time. There is information on inositol powder in

our FILES section.

>

> Be happy to answer any more questions if it's inositol that you are referring

to.

>

>

>

>

> > > > >

> > > > > When I was searching for a therapist for my 7-year-old son, I was told

that it's difficult to treat an ADHD child with OCD using only CBT and not

medication. If your child also has ADHD do you find this to be true?

> > > > >

> > > > > We just started with a new therapist (not the one who gave me that

information) but I'm noticing that it's difficult for my son to identify why

he's doing the compulsive behavior. If you don't recognize why you're doing it,

isn't it impossible to approach this from a cognitive standpoint?

> > > > >

> > > >

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> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Yes any information on inositol would be great!!

Sent from my iPhone

> I think you're referring to inositol powder, considered in the B vitamin

family. Yes, we used it, several other parents have over the years. Some

successes and some with no change, etc. Like the medications, it's just try it

and see if it helps, give it time. There is information on inositol powder in

our FILES section.

>

> Be happy to answer any more questions if it's inositol that you are referring

to.

>

>

>

>

> > > > >

> > > > > When I was searching for a therapist for my 7-year-old son, I was told

that it's difficult to treat an ADHD child with OCD using only CBT and not

medication. If your child also has ADHD do you find this to be true?

> > > > >

> > > > > We just started with a new therapist (not the one who gave me that

information) but I'm noticing that it's difficult for my son to identify why

he's doing the compulsive behavior. If you don't recognize why you're doing it,

isn't it impossible to approach this from a cognitive standpoint?

> > > > >

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[Guest guest]

There are more articles in our FILES, but this is a good one to start with for

info:

http://www.wsps.info/index.php?option=com_content & view=article & id=70:inositol-an\

d-ocd & catid=36:ocd-and-related-subjects-by-frederick-penzel-phd & Itemid=64

Hope the link above works. The only thing I'd add right now about inositol is

that each brand can differ in how many milligrams are in a teaspoon so when you

read the above article and it talks about teaspoons/dosage, keep that in mind.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > When I was searching for a therapist for my 7-year-old son, I was

told that it's difficult to treat an ADHD child with OCD using only CBT and not

medication. If your child also has ADHD do you find this to be true?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > We just started with a new therapist (not the one who gave me that

information) but I'm noticing that it's difficult for my son to identify why

he's doing the compulsive behavior. If you don't recognize why you're doing it,

isn't it impossible to approach this from a cognitive standpoint?

> > > > > >

> > > > >

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> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Inositol used to be referred to as B8. You can get it in

a pill form, but I prefer the powder so I can control the

amount I give my son. It has a slight sweet taste and

can be mixed with water or juice. However, some brands

don't dissolve as well as others. Inositol has worked

wonders for my son. I have also given him Bach's Rescue Remedy

to help stop meltdowns and rages.

Inositol doesn't work for everyone, but I'm thankful it has

worked with my son. Check out the files for more detailed info.

> > > >

> > > > When I was searching for a therapist for my 7-year-old son, I was told

that it's difficult to treat an ADHD child with OCD using only CBT and not

medication. If your child also has ADHD do you find this to be true?

> > > >

> > > > We just started with a new therapist (not the one who gave me that

information) but I'm noticing that it's difficult for my son to identify why

he's doing the compulsive behavior. If you don't recognize why you're doing it,

isn't it impossible to approach this from a cognitive standpoint?

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

When my son used to get angry even to the point of meltdowns

and rages that could last for 4 hours, I discovered Bach's Rescue

Remedy. If I could get him to take a sip of juice with about

4 drops of Rescue Remedy added, he would stop raging in

a few minutes. It's also helped in other situations when he

was just feeling overly anxious about homework or a test.

I've also seen it work to help calm another child who had

violent rages.

> > > >

> > > > When I was searching for a therapist for my 7-year-old son, I was told

that it's difficult to treat an ADHD child with OCD using only CBT and not

medication. If your child also has ADHD do you find this to be true?

> > > >

> > > > We just started with a new therapist (not the one who gave me that

information) but I'm noticing that it's difficult for my son to identify why

he's doing the compulsive behavior. If you don't recognize why you're doing it,

isn't it impossible to approach this from a cognitive standpoint?

> > > >

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> >

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>

>

>

[Guest guest]

When my son used to get angry even to the point of meltdowns

and rages that could last for 4 hours, I discovered Bach's Rescue

Remedy. If I could get him to take a sip of juice with about

4 drops of Rescue Remedy added, he would stop raging in

a few minutes. It's also helped in other situations when he

was just feeling overly anxious about homework or a test.

I've also seen it work to help calm another child who had

violent rages.

> > > >

> > > > When I was searching for a therapist for my 7-year-old son, I was told

that it's difficult to treat an ADHD child with OCD using only CBT and not

medication. If your child also has ADHD do you find this to be true?

> > > >

> > > > We just started with a new therapist (not the one who gave me that

information) but I'm noticing that it's difficult for my son to identify why

he's doing the compulsive behavior. If you don't recognize why you're doing it,

isn't it impossible to approach this from a cognitive standpoint?

> > > >

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Where do you get the inositol?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 4, 2012, at 5:46 PM, " karenchelle@... "

wrote:

> Inositol used to be referred to as B8. You can get it in

> a pill form, but I prefer the powder so I can control the

> amount I give my son. It has a slight sweet taste and

> can be mixed with water or juice. However, some brands

> don't dissolve as well as others. Inositol has worked

> wonders for my son. I have also given him Bach's Rescue Remedy

> to help stop meltdowns and rages.

>

> Inositol doesn't work for everyone, but I'm thankful it has

> worked with my son. Check out the files for more detailed info.

>

>

>

>

> > > > >

> > > > > When I was searching for a therapist for my 7-year-old son, I was told

that it's difficult to treat an ADHD child with OCD using only CBT and not

medication. If your child also has ADHD do you find this to be true?

> > > > >

> > > > > We just started with a new therapist (not the one who gave me that

information) but I'm noticing that it's difficult for my son to identify why

he's doing the compulsive behavior. If you don't recognize why you're doing it,

isn't it impossible to approach this from a cognitive standpoint?

> > > > >

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> >

[Guest guest]

Has anyone heard of lexapro being used for OCD?

Sent from my iPhone

> Where do you get the inositol?

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

> On Jan 4, 2012, at 5:46 PM, " karenchelle@... "

wrote:

>

> > Inositol used to be referred to as B8. You can get it in

> > a pill form, but I prefer the powder so I can control the

> > amount I give my son. It has a slight sweet taste and

> > can be mixed with water or juice. However, some brands

> > don't dissolve as well as others. Inositol has worked

> > wonders for my son. I have also given him Bach's Rescue Remedy

> > to help stop meltdowns and rages.

> >

> > Inositol doesn't work for everyone, but I'm thankful it has

> > worked with my son. Check out the files for more detailed info.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > When I was searching for a therapist for my 7-year-old son, I was

told that it's difficult to treat an ADHD child with OCD using only CBT and not

medication. If your child also has ADHD do you find this to be true?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > We just started with a new therapist (not the one who gave me that

information) but I'm noticing that it's difficult for my son to identify why

he's doing the compulsive behavior. If you don't recognize why you're doing it,

isn't it impossible to approach this from a cognitive standpoint?

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

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> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Has anyone heard of lexapro being used for OCD?

Sent from my iPhone

> Where do you get the inositol?

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

> On Jan 4, 2012, at 5:46 PM, " karenchelle@... "

wrote:

>

> > Inositol used to be referred to as B8. You can get it in

> > a pill form, but I prefer the powder so I can control the

> > amount I give my son. It has a slight sweet taste and

> > can be mixed with water or juice. However, some brands

> > don't dissolve as well as others. Inositol has worked

> > wonders for my son. I have also given him Bach's Rescue Remedy

> > to help stop meltdowns and rages.

> >

> > Inositol doesn't work for everyone, but I'm thankful it has

> > worked with my son. Check out the files for more detailed info.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > When I was searching for a therapist for my 7-year-old son, I was

told that it's difficult to treat an ADHD child with OCD using only CBT and not

medication. If your child also has ADHD do you find this to be true?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > We just started with a new therapist (not the one who gave me that

information) but I'm noticing that it's difficult for my son to identify why

he's doing the compulsive behavior. If you don't recognize why you're doing it,

isn't it impossible to approach this from a cognitive standpoint?

> > > > > >

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[Guest guest]

I order Jarrow Formulas Inositol Powder from Amazon. I'm not

sure if it's available on iherb.com or not. I have also bought

a Vitamin Shoppe brand in their store, but I think it was this kind

that didn't dissolve as well. I think I also bought the

capsule form there one time when we really needed some.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > When I was searching for a therapist for my 7-year-old son, I was

told that it's difficult to treat an ADHD child with OCD using only CBT and not

medication. If your child also has ADHD do you find this to be true?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > We just started with a new therapist (not the one who gave me that

information) but I'm noticing that it's difficult for my son to identify why

he's doing the compulsive behavior. If you don't recognize why you're doing it,

isn't it impossible to approach this from a cognitive standpoint?

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I order Jarrow Formulas Inositol Powder from Amazon. I'm not

sure if it's available on iherb.com or not. I have also bought

a Vitamin Shoppe brand in their store, but I think it was this kind

that didn't dissolve as well. I think I also bought the

capsule form there one time when we really needed some.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > When I was searching for a therapist for my 7-year-old son, I was

told that it's difficult to treat an ADHD child with OCD using only CBT and not

medication. If your child also has ADHD do you find this to be true?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > We just started with a new therapist (not the one who gave me that

information) but I'm noticing that it's difficult for my son to identify why

he's doing the compulsive behavior. If you don't recognize why you're doing it,

isn't it impossible to approach this from a cognitive standpoint?

> > > > > >

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